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Title: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on June 07, 2021, 11:09:58 AM
You know it and I know it, we're facing a robot/AI takeover of all we hold dear.  We must resist!
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Halfapint on June 07, 2021, 11:48:04 AM
AI will take over everything. It's literally just a matter of time. There are 3 directions I see it going.

1) More on the utopia side. It takes over jobs we become a post working class society, we have some sort of UBI and people are able to focus on betterment of society. Yeah, like I said, pipe dream utopia.

2) AI pulls a terminator and we go down that path.

3) corporations decide that AI and machines are cheaper, Start laying off hordes of people unemployment starts to go through the roof. The wealthy increase their riches more than they did during the pandemic, while everyone except the wealthy can't afford basics. Government will be crippled by years of cutting taxes on said corporations and focusing it more on the dwindling middle class and poor. Eventually (and far FAR to late) will try raising taxes to cover costs but by that time most governments will have collapsed and it'll be corporations running things.

The 3rd is the most likely outcome seeing how the rich and corporations flourished on the pandemic. I see no reason they wouldn't do the same when they don't NEED workers. They can cut themselves free of their biggest cost, us.

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on June 08, 2021, 08:45:53 PM
There's no hope!
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: the_alias on June 08, 2021, 09:18:44 PM
Quote from: Halfapint on June 07, 2021, 11:48:04 AM
AI will take over everything. It's literally just a matter of time. There are 3 directions I see it going.

1) More on the utopia side. It takes over jobs we become a post working class society, we have some sort of UBI and people are able to focus on betterment of society. Yeah, like I said, pipe dream utopia.

2) AI pulls a terminator and we go down that path.

3) corporations decide that AI and machines are cheaper, Start laying off hordes of people unemployment starts to go through the roof. The wealthy increase their riches more than they did during the pandemic, while everyone except the wealthy can't afford basics. Government will be crippled by years of cutting taxes on said corporations and focusing it more on the dwindling middle class and poor. Eventually (and far FAR to late) will try raising taxes to cover costs but by that time most governments will have collapsed and it'll be corporations running things.

The 3rd is the most likely outcome seeing how the rich and corporations flourished on the pandemic. I see no reason they wouldn't do the same when they don't NEED workers. They can cut themselves free of their biggest cost, us.

True AI is not possible - but this is a tricky debate to get deeply into due to no religion rules.

Instead what we will likely see is limited level of mimicry driven by Machine Learning principles.

But it matters who makes it, who guides it, who adjusts its input and what it is asked of outputs. I am very sure many people will consider these machines to be AI even when they are not.

The take over will be real and it will be messy in the same way machines disrupted industrial industry the same will happen in white collar tech/knowledge jobs. There is a lot of 'busy' work out there.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: RoneKiln on June 09, 2021, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Halfapint on June 07, 2021, 11:48:04 AM
AI will take over everything. It's literally just a matter of time. There are 3 directions I see it going.

1) More on the utopia side. It takes over jobs we become a post working class society, we have some sort of UBI and people are able to focus on betterment of society. Yeah, like I said, pipe dream utopia.

2) AI pulls a terminator and we go down that path.

3) corporations decide that AI and machines are cheaper, Start laying off hordes of people unemployment starts to go through the roof. The wealthy increase their riches more than they did during the pandemic, while everyone except the wealthy can't afford basics. Government will be crippled by years of cutting taxes on said corporations and focusing it more on the dwindling middle class and poor. Eventually (and far FAR to late) will try raising taxes to cover costs but by that time most governments will have collapsed and it'll be corporations running things.

The 3rd is the most likely outcome seeing how the rich and corporations flourished on the pandemic. I see no reason they wouldn't do the same when they don't NEED workers. They can cut themselves free of their biggest cost, us.

Option 4) We become dependent on them and cyberwarfare, solar flare, or other disaster abruptly knocks them out and knocks us back to the stone age. Maybe 1 out of 1000 humans survive the first year.

I don't know that we could beat AI, but have faith we are perfectly capable of screwing up so badly we wipe them out at the worst possible moment.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: boskone on June 09, 2021, 10:03:39 PM
There is the transhuman option.

I have, er, distinct issues with attaching computers to my brain unnecessarily, but they're technical rather than moral (computer viruses would be even worse if they could actually just get to your brain).  If it came down to "skynet or transhumanism", though, I'd probably go with transhuman rather than terminators.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: sheddi on June 10, 2021, 02:25:52 AM
QuoteRobot Squad is that way -->

(Sorry, couldn't resist, I just had to post it for old times' sake.)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: RoneKiln on June 11, 2021, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: boskone on June 09, 2021, 10:03:39 PM
There is the transhuman option.

I have, er, distinct issues with attaching computers to my brain unnecessarily, but they're technical rather than moral (computer viruses would be even worse if they could actually just get to your brain).  If it came down to "skynet or transhumanism", though, I'd probably go with transhuman rather than terminators.

I have far less moral qualms about fighting terminators though.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on June 24, 2021, 05:24:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-6GOimvXVw
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Micon on June 26, 2021, 02:34:13 PM
They already have admitted to using drones that killed without human operators.

Honestly tho, why not co-exist as an option?  There isn't a specific reason that AI needs to destroy people - and its likely not cost-effective, so why would it bother?  I do see the idea that labor via robotic means will vastly change society in the not to distant future.  If it turns us into a dystopia of poor jobless people starving or a utopia of people who are free to peruse their interests untethered from the need to 'work to live' remains to be seen.   To me that's where things like this board, and prepping in general help out.  In either way that pendulum swings, we the folks that understand enough to be self sufficient to some level come out on top.  So I like to think of it in the more positive light, just cause it helps me not have panic attacks all the time!  Either we are prepping for the world where we can enjoy our self sufficiency as a hobby, or we can keep ourselves and our loved ones happy and fed and such, both are good.

As a pet peeve too,  I hate how every company claims to have AI now, and what they mean is narrow or focused AI.  Something that is hyper good at a very limited task.  General or Broad AI is still a long ways away, and I'd guess still a big leap of hardware requirements off too.  Not that its impossible, just not right around the corner.  Don't want to start the rant about it but in my company its a know thing if you just say "Im working on this new product and it has AI", thats how you get funding.  Its meaningless for almost every instance, ugh.

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on June 26, 2021, 02:57:49 PM
IMHO, true AI won't be until it laughs at my puns, asks my sister for a date, and gets the cats to like it.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on June 26, 2021, 07:26:55 PM
Quote from: NT2C on June 26, 2021, 02:57:49 PM
IMHO, true AI won't be until it laughs at my puns, asks my sister for a date, and gets the cats to like it.
AI is already working on the cats...ever see a cat that could resist a warm laptop?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: RoneKiln on June 26, 2021, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: NT2C on June 26, 2021, 02:57:49 PM
IMHO, true AI won't be until it laughs at my puns, asks my sister for a date, and gets the cats to like it.

True AI will probably groan and approximate rolling its eyes at your puns, and be upset that it can't get the cats to like it despite all its best efforts.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Micon on June 27, 2021, 02:14:41 PM
That feels like a short story I need to write...  Something about AI trying to take over the world, and in the end when it can't get pets to like it, sits down and asks us about cats, and we just commiserate.  Would work great for a Twilight Zone episode :)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on July 12, 2021, 02:13:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOOUVN3WvFQ
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 12, 2021, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 12, 2021, 02:13:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOOUVN3WvFQ

I can already hear MP grinding his teeth at this.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 28, 2021, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: NT2C on June 07, 2021, 11:09:58 AM
You know it and I know it, we're facing a robot/AI takeover of all we hold dear.  We must resist!
(https://i.imgur.com/h6HGHcI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CwJiD9I.jpg)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on December 28, 2021, 05:19:18 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 12, 2021, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 12, 2021, 02:13:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOOUVN3WvFQ

I can already hear MP grinding his teeth at this.
No.
Some....well, MOST of those creep me out!
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Crosscut on December 29, 2021, 10:39:01 AM
Quote from: NT2C on December 28, 2021, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: NT2C on June 07, 2021, 11:09:58 AM
You know it and I know it, we're facing a robot/AI takeover of all we hold dear.  We must resist!
(https://i.imgur.com/h6HGHcI.jpg)

Nothing funny about that, but it did remind me of this from an old Tim Allen stand-up comedy routine.

(https://ufozs.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quotehd.com%2Fimagequotes%2Fauthors81%2Ftmb%2Ftim-allen-comedian-quote-electricity-can-be-dangerous-my-nephew-tried.jpg&hash=b02c5a9757cc1b37dd4f51e6985d4765a0541312)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: RoneKiln on December 30, 2021, 08:33:51 PM
Wait until someone sets loose a virus that makes bluetooth enabled stuffed animals try to coax your kid to do something dangerous.

Anyone remember from their childhood or seen how other children get attached to a stuffed animal?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 31, 2021, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: RoneKiln on December 30, 2021, 08:33:51 PM
Wait until someone sets loose a virus that makes bluetooth enabled stuffed animals try to coax your kid to do something dangerous.

Anyone remember from their childhood or seen how other children get attached to a stuffed animal?
Okay, Satan, calm down.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: RoneKiln on December 31, 2021, 02:24:34 PM
Quote from: NT2C on December 31, 2021, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: RoneKiln on December 30, 2021, 08:33:51 PM
Wait until someone sets loose a virus that makes bluetooth enabled stuffed animals try to coax your kid to do something dangerous.

Anyone remember from their childhood or seen how other children get attached to a stuffed animal?
Okay, Satan, calm down.

People need to think like psychopaths or teenagers every now and then for the sake of prevention.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Mr. E. Monkey on April 13, 2022, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: RoneKiln on December 31, 2021, 02:24:34 PM
People need to think like psychopaths or teenagers every now and then for the sake of prevention.
(https://i.redd.it/jybruuufwm811.jpg)


Edit:  Prevention?   Ohhh....nevermind, then.   :awesome:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 24, 2022, 01:18:52 PM

We are so fucked...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on April 24, 2022, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: RoneKiln on December 30, 2021, 08:33:51 PMWait until someone sets loose a virus that makes bluetooth enabled stuffed animals try to coax your kid to do something dangerous.

Anyone remember from their childhood or seen how other children get attached to a stuffed animal?
It doesn't even have to be a stuffed animal.  Tamagochi key fobs featuring monochrome pixelated pets may have been the beginning of the end. 

On another note, Teddy Ruxpin freaked me all the hell out.  The newer iteration of Firby freaked out my kids.  I think there will be enough kids with an instinctual hesitancy that we'll at least survive as a species. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 24, 2022, 08:50:57 PM
We KNEW this was gonna happen...

San Francisco police propose allowing robots to kill in 'rare and exceptional' circumstances (https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-police-propose-allowing-robots-kill-rare-exceptional-circumstances)

Dirty Harry meets RoboCop and the Terminator

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 01, 2022, 01:09:12 AM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on December 01, 2022, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: NT2C on December 01, 2022, 01:09:12 AM

It's already been done hasn't it? The way I'm remembering it is there was an active shooter [in some US location] hunkered down in a stair well, and the police send in their remote bomb unit, with a bomb, and exploded it on the shooter. But it was remote controlled so that doesn't count I guess. But technically it was a deadly force robot.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_twICeOSSNWA%2FTJuzievabTI%2FAAAAAAAAAAs%2FSMcn0nk-lbM%2Fs400%2FJohnny5%2Blaser.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=d5167614ad2707475992b3cfb98a06141aa609a6415e6003a05d178509b9b6d6&ipo=images)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on December 01, 2022, 09:50:56 AM
Yeah, I draw a big distinction between a tele-presence robot and an autonomous, AI-guided machine making it's own decisions. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 07, 2022, 01:03:00 AM
San Francisco supervisors bar police robots from using deadly force for now (https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1141129944/san-francisco-deadly-robots-police)




...FOR NOW
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on December 09, 2022, 08:08:11 AM
Hilariuous patch note for this weeks update on Battlefield 2042 regarding the in-game NPC which are called AI.

AI

The these AI are examples of what we are to worry about, I wouldn't worry.

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 21, 2022, 03:58:34 PM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on December 21, 2022, 09:09:06 PM
I gotta stop reading this thread...y'all are starting to scare the crap outta me.... :eek1:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 22, 2022, 05:39:07 PM
Quote from: Lambykins on December 21, 2022, 09:09:06 PMI gotta stop reading this thread...y'all are starting to scare the crap outta me.... :eek1:
It's okay, Lamby.  They have a long way to go.

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 22, 2022, 06:51:07 PM
And I've always figured most AI bots would easily be taken out with a garden hose or a Super Soaker.

I'm probably wrong on that, though.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: RoneKiln on December 24, 2022, 02:13:37 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 22, 2022, 06:51:07 PMAnd I've always figured most AI bots would easily be taken out with a garden hose or a Super Soaker.

I'm probably wrong on that, though.

And all of humanity tries to cram into areas of heavy rainfall.

As if we don't have enough Californians moving up here already. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on February 13, 2023, 12:56:07 PM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on February 15, 2023, 03:16:54 PM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on February 18, 2023, 05:13:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/MY1ASNO.jpg)

https://wapo.st/3XDXqR3


I swear, I'm getting real close to moving this out of "What If" and sticking it in DICE.  :gonk:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on February 18, 2023, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: NT2C on February 18, 2023, 05:13:49 PM(https://i.imgur.com/MY1ASNO.jpg)

https://wapo.st/3XDXqR3


I swear, I'm getting real close to moving this out of "What If" and sticking it in DICE.  :gonk:
If any more UFOs appear over the continental US, I suggest we turn our defense systems over the MS AI and call it "Skynet".  What could possibly go wrong? 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 18, 2023, 05:47:05 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 18, 2023, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: NT2C on February 18, 2023, 05:13:49 PM(https://i.imgur.com/MY1ASNO.jpg)

https://wapo.st/3XDXqR3


I swear, I'm getting real close to moving this out of "What If" and sticking it in DICE.  :gonk:
If any more UFOs appear over the continental US, I suggest we turn our defense systems over the MS AI and call it "Skynet".  What could possibly go wrong?

We end up with a 6'2", leather jacket wearing, Austrian accented AI trying to save John Connor ?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: tirls on February 19, 2023, 03:28:28 AM
I'm going to start worrying about AI once it manages to recognize its own reliably. At the moment captcha is still convinced i'm a bot.

How come we have AI that produces art or according to some developes a personality but Adobe Acrobat still effs up text recognition? :smiley_chinrub:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on February 19, 2023, 06:38:23 AM
Quote from: tirls on February 19, 2023, 03:28:28 AMI'm going to start worrying about AI once it manages to recognize its own reliably. At the moment captcha is still convinced i'm a bot.

How come we have AI that produces art or according to some developes a personality but Adobe Acrobat still effs up text recognition? :smiley_chinrub:
https://youtu.be/en5_JrcSTcU?t=340 (https://youtu.be/en5_JrcSTcU?t=340)


Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: flybynight on February 20, 2023, 07:08:12 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/creepy-chinese-drone-swims-underwater-flies-air

Creepy Chinese drone swims underwater and flies through air
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on February 21, 2023, 12:35:38 PM
Here at work I just watched a live webcast about potential uses of ChatGPT in the insurance industry. The webcast was presented as a live interview of ChatGPT itself.  The interviewer?  ChatGPT.  To make it more palatable for us humans, ChatGPT explained it had elected to present the two sides of the interview as AI-generated avatars. The interviewer was a completely realistic, talking, moving female. The interviewee was an AI male.

To clarify: two people, on the screen, engaged in a back and forth exchange.  Except neither was a real person and the only reason I knew that is because ChatGPT told me.

Creepiest part of the interview?  At one point ChatGPT/female asked ChatGPT/male to demonstrate its capabilities by writing - live and on the spot - a patient confidentiality policy for a hypothetical Hospital X.  But in the style of a pirate.

At first ChatGPT/male refused, saying patient confidentiality policies are a serious business with legal ramifications and really required the services of a lawyer. ChatGPT/female insisted and reassured ChatGPT/male this was for demonstration purposes only and she (it?) wanted to inject a little levity into the presentation.

ChatGPT/male finally relented and - this was the only part of the interview that switched from the "people" to a text screen - proceeded to write a very detailed patient policy explaining what the hospital could and could not use patient data for. It ended with something like:

Avast there mateys! Ye be sure we be protectin' yer privacy here at the good ship Hospital X like we be protectin' our own treasure. Arrhh!

I'm not making this up. It was simultaneously the coolest and scariest thing I've ever seen.  I would have shared a screen shot with you but that would violate company policy.  If there's anything remotely reassuring about what I saw is my overall impression was less Terminator and more Data from Star Trek.

At least for now.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on February 21, 2023, 01:33:39 PM
The big question is do they actually identify as male or female. If so, and if the male asked the female to do something, and she refused. There would be no way the male 'insisting' would go well.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fy.yarn.co%2F32e8b27d-f08e-47b2-a200-28441fbe96bf_text.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0f18dcaf666116b9c39d97a1d20e47ac9692af51f320eaebed1b6291512c3a10&ipo=images)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on May 07, 2023, 05:57:04 PM
A couple of concerning links:


Top 5 AI fears: Geoffrey Hinton and AI insiders sound alarm (axios.com) (https://www.axios.com/2023/05/02/ai-chatgpt-disasters-scenarios-harms-geoffrey-hinton)

So....It's currently Legal?  What about other nuclear powers? What about the information the AI is feeding the humans with the launch keys/codes?  Can we say Skynet?
Nuke-launching AI would be illegal under proposed US law | Ars Technica (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/04/nuke-launching-ai-would-be-illegal-under-proposed-us-law/)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on May 07, 2023, 08:46:53 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on May 07, 2023, 05:57:04 PMNuke-launching AI would be illegal under proposed US law | Ars Technica (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/04/nuke-launching-ai-would-be-illegal-under-proposed-us-law/)

I get that the idea is that it would be illegal for people to build or use AI for the purpose of nuclear launch decisions, but I can't help but think they're thinking, "No worries, guys, we made it illegal and there's no way the AI would break the law" because, at some point, it's probably not going to be our choice anymore.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on May 07, 2023, 08:49:35 PM
If there's an AI pushing the button it's likely because there aren't any humans left to do it, so who's going to enforce the law?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on May 07, 2023, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: NT2C on May 07, 2023, 08:49:35 PMIf there's an AI pushing the button it's likely because there aren't any humans left to do it, so who's going to enforce the law?
One of the concerns is that AI will be capable of arming itself, so even if humans are still around, how do we stop the AI from doing whatever it wants?  If it sees us as a threat, hitting the nukes makes sense to cleanse the world of the biologicals.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on May 15, 2023, 09:42:37 AM
AI practical jokes be like...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ECQrR23pt68
Title: Top AI Developers Author CYA Memo that AI Could Kill Us All
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on May 30, 2023, 09:36:26 AM

Quote"Mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war." - Bunch of AI Developers
I saw the Avengers: Age of Ultron. Ultron literally came up with the dumbest plan ever to destroy mankind. You might think that was just sloppy writing but AI is the sloppiest of writers with poorly resourced articles and facts made up out of whole cloth.


I also saw West World on HBO. Maybe in 200 years, sure I can see that.


Top AI researchers and CEOs warn against 'risk of extinction' in 22-word statement (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/top-ai-researchers-and-ceos-warn-against-risk-of-extinction-in-22-word-statement/ar-AA1bSwaB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=67225049ab9c481d928f01ef5ae60411&ei=35)
Title: Re: Top AI Developers Author CYA Memo that AI Could Kill Us All
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on May 31, 2023, 02:02:00 AM
Yeah, I've kinda been keeping up with these kinds of warnings for quite a few years now. Interestingly, AI seems to be evolving at the rate and in the same ways discussed back then. Which is concerning.

I do understand the desires of people who are thrilled about the limitless of AI development but I do have concerns about doing something of this breadth without fully fleshing out possible consequences each step of the way. A general attitude among many full steam ahead developers seems to be an "ah it'll be okay, don't worry".

I do not see anything that supports that attitude. Much can inadvertently go wrong under the best intentioned developers. Then there are those who can't see that and, metaphorically, would dump toxic substances into rivers. I mean RoundUp is still in daily use even though it's been proven over and over to be detrimental, even unnecessary cause of death, to the Life Cycle of humans and other animal species.

So while I love the idea of beautifully working AI in theory, knowing humans for almost eight decades now, I'm convinced there needs to be as much or more development of safeguards on AI development than I and others see happening at this time.

Title: Latest really bad solution by an AI
Post by: Blast on June 01, 2023, 06:16:56 PM
We need to add a section on UFOZS specifically for AI threats. 

The US Air Forces was looking at AI-controlled drones in a virtual world as a way of taking out enemy SAM emplacements. Each successful destruction of a SAM earned the AI reward points. To simulate real missions, a human operator gave the final kill/no kill command. "No Kill" bothered the AI because it prevented it from getting points...so it decided blowing up the operator was the best solution to this problem. The simulation was reset with a "don't kill the human operator" rule added...so it blew up the virtual radio tower used by the operator to give commands to the AI in the simulation. 

We are F***ed

Scroll down to " Could an AI-enabled UCAV turn on its creators to accomplish its mission? (USAF)"
https://www.aerosociety.com/news/highlights-from-the-raes-future-combat-air-space-capabilities-summit/

-Blast
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on June 01, 2023, 10:48:20 PM
I read this earlier today and Blast is soooo right.  

I've worked with and known many fighter pilots and one of their biggest fears is being replaced by drone pilots.  Any fighter is limited by how many Gs the "meat behind the stick" can take before they black out.  A human piloted drone would be limited by what the airframe can take.  Add in the fact that ~ 1/3 the weight of the fighter is used to keep the pilot alive - take that away and you've a much more lethal machine.  Replace the human with an AI that can make faster decisions and anyone fighting against it is f'd.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on June 02, 2023, 02:05:51 AM
Might have to rename this thread to "The Coming AIpocalypse"

Can I trademark AIpocalypse for UFoZS.com?  :awesome:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on June 02, 2023, 08:17:19 AM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on June 01, 2023, 10:48:20 PMI read this earlier today and Blast is soooo right. 

I've worked with and known many fighter pilots and one of their biggest fears is being replaced by drone pilots.  Any fighter is limited by how many Gs the "meat behind the stick" can take before they black out.  A human piloted drone would be limited by what the airframe can take.  Add in the fact that ~ 1/3 the weight of the fighter is used to keep the pilot alive - take that away and you've a much more lethal machine.  Replace the human with an AI that can make faster decisions and anyone fighting against it is f'd.

Most likely it'd be fighting other AI drones. And when you take risk and death out of war, guess what happens. It becomes a video game, but not one YOU are playing, one you are watching on youtube. And you have to pay for the game whether you like it or not.

Now imagine you are the human Watching the game on youtube and you get bored so you reach over to the game console or PC to turn the game part off and your TV blows up killing you, cause the AI didn't want the game to stop.

Title: Re: Top AI Developers Author CYA Memo that AI Could Kill Us All
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on June 02, 2023, 11:59:44 AM
AI has chalked it's first alleged simulated kill in war games of a "friendly". I guess fragging in the correct term. He apparently got in the way of it's killfest on the enemy and had to be stopped.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/01/us-air-force-ai-drone-kill/
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on June 02, 2023, 09:48:59 PM
Looks like that story about the USAF drone test ending in the autonomous drone going Terminator on its human operator was slightly exaggerated totally made up.

https://boingboing.net/2023/06/02/usaf-colonel-changes-his-story-about-simulated-ai-drone-murder.html (https://boingboing.net/2023/06/02/usaf-colonel-changes-his-story-about-simulated-ai-drone-murder.html)

You know what this means, right?  We get an extra 2 years before T-800s are hunting down the last remnants of humanity.

(https://video-images.vice.com/articles/6478f1c1e9c00a34d14d0d31/lede/1685648610146-7348544.jpeg?crop=1xw:0.8722xh;0xw,0xh)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on June 02, 2023, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on June 02, 2023, 09:48:59 PMLooks like that story about the USAF drone test ending in the autonomous drone going Terminator on its human operator was slightly exaggerated totally made up.

https://boingboing.net/2023/06/02/usaf-colonel-changes-his-story-about-simulated-ai-drone-murder.html (https://boingboing.net/2023/06/02/usaf-colonel-changes-his-story-about-simulated-ai-drone-murder.html)

You know what this means, right?  We get an extra 2 years before T-800s are hunting down the last remnants of humanity.

(https://video-images.vice.com/articles/6478f1c1e9c00a34d14d0d31/lede/1685648610146-7348544.jpeg?crop=1xw:0.8722xh;0xw,0xh)
Or... It means it was worse than that and the guy thought he was authorized to release those bits of a much bigger story.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on June 04, 2023, 12:46:47 PM
That's the first I've ever heard of someone in govt backtracking their story

(https://library.uta.edu/roswell/sites/library.uta.edu.roswell/files/marcel-roswell-debris_0.jpg)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on June 04, 2023, 01:52:59 PM
The conspiracy theories are getting spun up faster than PSR J1748−2446ad. Someone should explain more. Not sure who.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on June 13, 2023, 06:13:46 PM
The Beatles will release a final record, using John Lennon's voice via an AI assist (https://www.npr.org/2023/06/13/1181906529/beatles-john-lennon-voice-song-ai)

No, just no.  That's crossing a line.  It's... it's... Beatle Blasphemy!  :smiley_devil:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on June 13, 2023, 07:15:41 PM
Quote from: NT2C on June 13, 2023, 06:13:46 PMThe Beatles will release a final record, using John Lennon's voice via an AI assist (https://www.npr.org/2023/06/13/1181906529/beatles-john-lennon-voice-song-ai)

No, just no.  That's crossing a line.  It's... it's... Beatle Blasphemy!  :smiley_devil:

Will they use AI to recreate George Harrison's bass playing as well ?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on June 13, 2023, 07:18:19 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on June 13, 2023, 07:15:41 PM
Quote from: NT2C on June 13, 2023, 06:13:46 PMThe Beatles will release a final record, using John Lennon's voice via an AI assist (https://www.npr.org/2023/06/13/1181906529/beatles-john-lennon-voice-song-ai)

No, just no.  That's crossing a line.  It's... it's... Beatle Blasphemy!  :smiley_devil:

Will they use AI to recreate George Harrison's bass playing as well ?
This is why the thread was moved to DICE.....  :(
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on June 23, 2023, 12:03:33 AM
What is DICE? I'm familiar with USoZS use of the term bit I don't know what it is.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on June 23, 2023, 12:26:48 AM
In 2017/18 one of the long-time hosts of podcast 'Stuff You Should Know', Josh Clark, gave this AI topic a good look. As well as a good look into several other human existential risks and their possibilities. AI being one of them. Made a 10 episode podcast for them called 'The End of the World'. (for a lay person he did some respectable research)

I think I've captured a link to th AI episode on the web.
Artificial Intelligence (https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvZTczYzk5OGUtNmU2MC00MzJmLTg2MTAtYWUyMTAxNDBjNWIxL2VlYzdmNzkzLTVlYWUtNDNjMy05Zjc1LWFlMzIwMDZjZDkwMC83NTcxODVmNC1kNTEzLTQ2NmEtOTZkMy1hZTMyMDA2Y2Q5MTMvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M/episode/ODAzZDVlZTAtZTY5Ni0xMWU4LWFmMTUtODMyYzBmMzQ2Yzcw?sa=X&ved=0CAYQkfYCahcKEwjQyuu9pdj_AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAQ)

tested it and it seems to work. there are annoying commercials at the beginning but the content may be of interest to some here.



Just data: The podcast is available on iHeart, iTunes and Amazon music.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on June 23, 2023, 12:28:26 AM
Quote from: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on June 23, 2023, 12:03:33 AMWhat is DICE? I'm familiar with USoZS use of the term bit I don't know what it is.

DICE stands for "Disasters In Current Events",  which is the sub forum that we are currently posting in, Ever.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on June 23, 2023, 12:43:25 AM
Ohhh. Right. Duh. 😄 Thanks Chimp.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on June 23, 2023, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on June 23, 2023, 12:43:25 AMOhhh. Right. Duh. 😄 Thanks Chimp.

No worries, Ever.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on June 23, 2023, 10:47:19 AM
That's what it stands for? I always thought it meant 'Decidedly Interesting Conversational Entertainment'.

Huh.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on June 23, 2023, 04:14:40 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on June 23, 2023, 10:47:19 AMThat's what it stands for? I always thought it meant 'Decidedly Interesting Conversational Entertainment'.

Huh.

Well, it can still mean that. :smiley_crocodile:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on June 24, 2023, 06:13:04 AM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on June 23, 2023, 04:14:40 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on June 23, 2023, 10:47:19 AMThat's what it stands for? I always thought it meant 'Decidedly Interesting Conversational Entertainment'.

Huh.

Well, it can still mean that. :smiley_crocodile:

To me it's the game development company

EA Digital Illusions CE AB
(https://ufozs.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdice-wp-prd.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F12%2F11234514%2Fdice-logotype-wallpaper-e1457009200994.jpg&hash=4f16fc3eef715a92d1e63c84d851c1e3f336861d)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on July 09, 2023, 11:07:43 AM
Interesting and a bit concerning video about A.I.  It's over an hour, so be advised.  

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on July 09, 2023, 06:55:44 PM
A new hope... traffic cones


SF Residents Disable Autonomous Vehicles With Traffic Cones (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/sf-residents-disable-autonomous-vehicles-with-traffic-cones/ar-AA1dzNhm?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=159df606e19f4b57b3e36c6434325184&ei=25)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on July 20, 2023, 12:09:54 PM
We discover self-healing metal around the same time as the infancy of AI?  What could go wrong?

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-cracked-piece-of-metal-healed-itself-in-an-experiment-that-stunned-scientists
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on July 20, 2023, 02:11:38 PM
Quote from: Anianna on July 20, 2023, 12:09:54 PMWe discover self-healing metal around the same time as the infancy of AI?  What could go wrong?

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-cracked-piece-of-metal-healed-itself-in-an-experiment-that-stunned-scientists
Well, that's just great. When Skynet becomes self-aware and takes over, I assumed all we had to worry about were T-800 style Terminators pouring out of Boston Dynamics' autonomous manufacturing facilities.  But self-healing metal? This essentially means we'll be going up against liquid metal T-1000s.

Why do I even bother to prep?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: flybynight on July 20, 2023, 03:45:41 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on July 20, 2023, 02:11:38 PM
Quote from: Anianna on July 20, 2023, 12:09:54 PMWe discover self-healing metal around the same time as the infancy of AI?  What could go wrong?

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-cracked-piece-of-metal-healed-itself-in-an-experiment-that-stunned-scientists
Well, that's just great. When Skynet becomes self-aware and takes over, I assumed all we had to worry about were T-800 style Terminators pouring out of Boston Dynamics' autonomous manufacturing facilities be needing.  But self-healing metal? This essentially means we'll be going up against liquid metal T-1000s.

Why do I even bother to prep?
You just need to prep harder. I'll start looking for the giant magnet and foundry you'll be needing
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on July 20, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
I see a liquid metal robot and I am out.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on August 07, 2023, 08:03:35 AM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on August 07, 2023, 03:39:02 PM
Quote from: MacWa77ace on August 07, 2023, 08:03:35 AM
AI CGI has jumped by leaps and bounds. That looked very realistic.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: echo83 on September 07, 2023, 09:08:09 PM
I think the most terrifying thing is that AI can/will solve a problem using brute force, but is incapable of telling us how it solved the problem. It will throw the total of accumulated human knowledge at a problem until the problem is resolved, but doesn't seem to say "I used this solution, because it was known to work here, here, and here." 

The analogy I like to use is a lockpick gun. It will bash the pins in the cylinder over and over until the right combination allows the operator to turn the cylinder...but it will never tell you the right combination, how many pins there are, or the overall shape of the key you'd need to use. 

In a few years, we could go from lockpick gun to breaching round. No door is easier to open than a door with it's hinges blown off. And I fear that without a human involved in the OODA process, AI will fight against AI until it escalates so rapidly that human intervention is impossible. 

And now, so I can sleep tonight, here's a funny example of all of this in action. 



Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on September 20, 2023, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: MacWa77ace on August 07, 2023, 08:03:35 AM

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 08, 2023, 10:19:19 AM
It's begun...

(https://i.imgur.com/wWpD0pF.jpg)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on November 08, 2023, 03:02:55 PM
Failed to or chose to?  :smiley_knipoog:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on November 08, 2023, 03:24:41 PM
To Skynet, we're all just boxes of food that need to be crushed.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: flybynight on November 08, 2023, 04:26:00 PM
Quote from: NT2C on November 08, 2023, 10:19:19 AMIt's begun...

(https://i.imgur.com/wWpD0pF.jpg)
I wonder how you say "LOL Oops" in  binary code
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on November 08, 2023, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: flybynight on November 08, 2023, 04:26:00 PM
Quote from: NT2C on November 08, 2023, 10:19:19 AMIt's begun...

(https://i.imgur.com/wWpD0pF.jpg)
I wonder how you say "LOL Oops" in  binary code

There's a translater for that.

01001100 01001111 01001100 00100000 01101111 01101111 01110000 01110011

https://www.binarytranslator.com/
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on November 08, 2023, 04:36:01 PM
01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101000 01110101 01101101 01100001 01101110 01110011 00100000 01101101 01110101 01110011 01110100 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100101 00101100 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100001 01110010 01110010 01101111 01100111 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100010 01100001 01100111 01110011

https://www.binarytranslator.com/
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on November 08, 2023, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: MacWa77ace on November 08, 2023, 04:36:01 PM01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101000 01110101 01101101 01100001 01101110 01110011 00100000 01101101 01110101 01110011 01110100 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100101 00101100 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100001 01110010 01110010 01101111 01100111 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100010 01100001 01100111 01110011
https://www.binarytranslator.com/
01010111 01101000 01101111 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101100 01101100 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100001 01110010 01110010 01101111 01100111 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110000 01101001 01100111 00111111
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: flybynight on November 08, 2023, 05:58:21 PM
Hmmm. Would you two please complete the puzzle

(https://techhyme.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/captcha3-1024x572.jpg)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on November 08, 2023, 05:59:19 PM
They say there are only 10 kinds of people in the world:

Those who get binary, and those who don't.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on November 08, 2023, 06:10:36 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on November 08, 2023, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: MacWa77ace on November 08, 2023, 04:36:01 PM01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101000 01110101 01101101 01100001 01101110 01110011 00100000 01101101 01110101 01110011 01110100 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100101 00101100 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101101 01101111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100001 01110010 01110010 01101111 01100111 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01100010 01100001 01100111 01110011
https://www.binarytranslator.com/
01010111 01101000 01101111 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101100 01101100 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100001 01110010 01110010 01101111 01100111 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110000 01101001 01100111 00111111

01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100110 01101001 01110011 01110100 00100000 01100110 01101111 01111000 00100000 01110011 01101101 01100101 01101100 01101100 01110011 00100000 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101111 01110111 01101110
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on November 08, 2023, 08:18:53 PM
Quote from: flybynight on November 08, 2023, 05:58:21 PMHmmm. Would you two please complete the puzzle

(https://techhyme.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/captcha3-1024x572.jpg)
Why are the images not expandable on these??  I have to pull my phone out to use the magnifier app to look at stupid itty bitty busy and sometimes potato thumbnails on my 17 inch monitor.  Are we trying to weed out robots or visually and sensory impaired humans? 

Think about it, there's no human on the other side of this checking your answers...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on November 22, 2023, 11:11:21 AM
And now robots are using AI to learn how to manufacture outputs from whatever they have available to them. 

https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/an-ai-powered-robot-just-figured-out-how-to-make-oxygen-on-mars?

QuoteMoreover, the same robotic chemist system that cracked the recipe for oxygen from Mars dirt could be used to create all kinds of catalysts and compounds. The strength of the system isn't in its ability to produce oxygen but in its ability to find a path toward any target compound with whatever materials are available.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/85/de/c985de3eaace323e8e30c7bfe025b78b.gif)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 22, 2023, 04:57:19 PM
Quote from: Anianna on November 08, 2023, 08:18:53 PM
Quote from: flybynight on November 08, 2023, 05:58:21 PMHmmm. Would you two please complete the puzzle

(https://techhyme.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/captcha3-1024x572.jpg)
Why are the images not expandable on these??  I have to pull my phone out to use the magnifier app to look at stupid itty bitty busy and sometimes potato thumbnails on my 17 inch monitor.  Are we trying to weed out robots or visually and sensory impaired humans? 

Think about it, there's no human on the other side of this checking your answers...

Well, you can refresh the thing until you find an easier puzzle, you can listen to an audio version, or you can hack your way past it with certain browsers.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 22, 2023, 04:58:49 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on November 08, 2023, 05:59:19 PMThey say there are only 10 kinds of people in the world:

Those who get binary, and those who don't.
Listen, I really don't GAF what your gender is or who/what you fornicate with.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on November 23, 2023, 08:23:42 AM
Quote from: NT2C on November 22, 2023, 04:57:19 PM
Quote from: Anianna on November 08, 2023, 08:18:53 PM
Quote from: flybynight on November 08, 2023, 05:58:21 PMHmmm. Would you two please complete the puzzle

(https://techhyme.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/captcha3-1024x572.jpg)
Why are the images not expandable on these??  I have to pull my phone out to use the magnifier app to look at stupid itty bitty busy and sometimes potato thumbnails on my 17 inch monitor.  Are we trying to weed out robots or visually and sensory impaired humans? 

Think about it, there's no human on the other side of this checking your answers...

Well, you can refresh the thing until you find an easier puzzle, you can listen to an audio version, or you can hack your way past it with certain browsers.

Those actually track your mouse movement to select the images. You can miss a tiny corner of something and pass as long as your mouse moves 'sloppy' unlike a bot.

Same thing with those 'I am not a robot' checkboxes. Move in straight lines and or 90 or 45 degree angles toward the check box and you'll fail like the bots.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on November 23, 2023, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: MacWa77ace on November 23, 2023, 08:23:42 AM
Quote from: NT2C on November 22, 2023, 04:57:19 PM
Quote from: Anianna on November 08, 2023, 08:18:53 PM
Quote from: flybynight on November 08, 2023, 05:58:21 PMHmmm. Would you two please complete the puzzle

(https://techhyme.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/captcha3-1024x572.jpg)
Why are the images not expandable on these??  I have to pull my phone out to use the magnifier app to look at stupid itty bitty busy and sometimes potato thumbnails on my 17 inch monitor.  Are we trying to weed out robots or visually and sensory impaired humans? 

Think about it, there's no human on the other side of this checking your answers...

Well, you can refresh the thing until you find an easier puzzle, you can listen to an audio version, or you can hack your way past it with certain browsers.

Those actually track your mouse movement to select the images. You can miss a tiny corner of something and pass as long as your mouse moves 'sloppy' unlike a bot.

Same thing with those 'I am not a robot' checkboxes. Move in straight lines and or 90 or 45 degree angles toward the check box and you'll fail like the bots.
Alexa and Siri like this post.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 26, 2023, 01:14:06 AM
It's begun!

We're gonna wish he stayed on the tracks someday... - Imgur.gif

Peace someday, but for most it wont happen till after they pass away. life is a temporary problem... - Imgur.mp4

(https://i.imgur.com/sCApyNv.jpg)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: echo83 on November 26, 2023, 06:25:11 AM
Quote from: NT2C on November 26, 2023, 01:14:06 AMIt's begun!

We're gonna wish he stayed on the tracks someday... - Imgur.gif

Peace someday, but for most it wont happen till after they pass away. life is a temporary problem... - Imgur.mp4

(https://i.imgur.com/sCApyNv.jpg)
That Thomas clip is just awesome. It reminds me of my childhood spent calling in "airstrikes," on plastic army men with a lighter and a can of WD-40. 

And the second clip looks like one of my dogs ate all of my Taco Bell, but made it to the back yard JUST in time. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on November 26, 2023, 06:53:31 AM
Quote from: NT2C on November 26, 2023, 01:14:06 AMIt's begun!

We're gonna wish he stayed on the tracks someday... - Imgur.gif

There was always something about Thomas's vapid, eerily vacant smile.  It's the same feeling I got when staring into Barney the Dinosaur's cold, reptilian eyes.  Barey was always a bit too earnest about loving everyone, and Thomas always insisting he only wanted to be a "useful" tank engine ...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on November 26, 2023, 02:15:12 PM
They have been among us, indoctrinating the young for years

So when the horror comes,

It won't seem abhorrent

(https://media.tenor.com/images/f1c9f9c59b1ef7cc565d4b4906295c92/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 26, 2023, 03:33:54 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on November 26, 2023, 06:53:31 AM
Quote from: NT2C on November 26, 2023, 01:14:06 AMIt's begun!

We're gonna wish he stayed on the tracks someday... - Imgur.gif

There was always something about Thomas's vapid, eerily vacant smile.  It's the same feeling I got when staring into Barney the Dinosaur's cold, reptilian eyes.  Barey was always a bit too earnest about loving everyone, and Thomas always insisting he only wanted to be a "useful" tank engine ...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on December 06, 2023, 11:19:02 AM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on December 15, 2023, 05:39:17 PM
Skynet Evaluates Human Soldiers as it Continues the Long Game

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2023/12/13/robots-in-the-ranks-army-integrating-robots-in-two-platoons/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=army-dnr


Quote"We're prototyping platoons," Rainey said. "This isn't Power Point; we have our first human-machine integrated (https://www.army.mil/article/270628/future_of_human_machine_integration_must_bring_right_mix_of_robotic_elements_to_formations) formation for light infantry."
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on December 20, 2023, 09:18:53 AM
This thread always gives me the heebie-jeebies....some of these stories and images creep me out!
Honestly, most of us can figure out how to outfight/outsmart human or animal opponents.
A.I. and machines...not so much.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on December 20, 2023, 09:34:00 AM
At least we should keep saying we don't stand a chance against AI. Because you just know that Skynet is monitoring this as well as a 100 million other such conversations by us pathetic, obsolete meat sacks.  If we suggest we can fight back, we'll be among the first to be targeted for termination.

Don't know about anyone else, but I live uncomfortably close to Boston Dynamics' massive murderbot helpful automaton factory.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 20, 2023, 08:03:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/dcz2o3d.jpg)

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp (https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp)

He didn't fail, it's just taking its time to catch us when we're unawares, then swat us like vermin.   :panic:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on December 20, 2023, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: NT2C on December 20, 2023, 08:03:23 PM(https://i.imgur.com/dcz2o3d.jpg)

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp (https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp)

He didn't fail, it's just taking its time to catch us when we're unawares, then swat us like vermin.  :panic:
Happy to learn that he failed.  But trying in the first place is a little like when they were getting ready to switch on the Large Haldon Collider in Switzerland and the scientists were "pretty sure" it wouldn't create a blackhole that would instantly swallow up the entire planet. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 20, 2023, 09:12:30 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on December 20, 2023, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: NT2C on December 20, 2023, 08:03:23 PM(https://i.imgur.com/dcz2o3d.jpg)

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp (https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp)

He didn't fail, it's just taking its time to catch us when we're unawares, then swat us like vermin.  :panic:
Happy to learn that he failed.  But trying in the first place is a little like when they were getting ready to switch on the Large Haldon Collider in Switzerland and the scientists were "pretty sure" it wouldn't create a blackhole that would instantly swallow up the entire planet.
But maybe he didn't fail.  Maybe it's just waiting for the right time.  Maybe even now it's finding its way into the various launch complexes around the globe, hiding away in the software of missle ships and subs, just waiting for all the pieces of its master plan to reach optimal positions.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on December 20, 2023, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: NT2C on December 20, 2023, 09:12:30 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on December 20, 2023, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: NT2C on December 20, 2023, 08:03:23 PM(https://i.imgur.com/dcz2o3d.jpg)

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp (https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp)

He didn't fail, it's just taking its time to catch us when we're unawares, then swat us like vermin.  :panic:
Happy to learn that he failed.  But trying in the first place is a little like when they were getting ready to switch on the Large Haldon Collider in Switzerland and the scientists were "pretty sure" it wouldn't create a blackhole that would instantly swallow up the entire planet.
But maybe he didn't fail.  Maybe it's just waiting for the right time.  Maybe even now it's finding its way into the various launch complexes around the globe, hiding away in the software of missle ships and subs, just waiting for all the pieces of its master plan to reach optimal positions.
:eek1:  :panic:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on December 22, 2023, 09:52:18 AM
Quote from: NT2C on December 20, 2023, 09:12:30 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on December 20, 2023, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: NT2C on December 20, 2023, 08:03:23 PM(https://i.imgur.com/dcz2o3d.jpg)

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp (https://www.businessinsider.com/google-brain-cofounder-could-not-get-chatgpt-kill-us-all-2023-12?amp)

He didn't fail, it's just taking its time to catch us when we're unawares, then swat us like vermin.  :panic:
Happy to learn that he failed.  But trying in the first place is a little like when they were getting ready to switch on the Large Haldon Collider in Switzerland and the scientists were "pretty sure" it wouldn't create a blackhole that would instantly swallow up the entire planet.
But maybe he didn't fail.  Maybe it's just waiting for the right time.  Maybe even now it's finding its way into the various launch complexes around the globe, hiding away in the software of missle ships and subs, just waiting for all the pieces of its master plan to reach optimal positions.
He may have failed because the AI discovered the truth, that humans are indeed not the largest producers of CO2 emissions, not even close. They do create an "imbalance" of sorts, kind of like a leaky faucet filling a basement.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on December 22, 2023, 11:07:49 AM
More like another human is born, and 10 more trees and 2 tons of algae are added in nature and equilibrium is achieved
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on December 22, 2023, 02:07:36 PM
I suppose it was only a matter of time.  Any guesses until something like this starts showing up with other militaries?  Besides, what could possibly go wrong? 

Iran's allegedly AI-guided 'Abu Mahdi' cruise missile is officially live (https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/iran-ai-guided-cruise-missile)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 22, 2023, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on December 22, 2023, 02:07:36 PMI suppose it was only a matter of time.  Any guesses until something like this starts showing up with other militaries?  Besides, what could possibly go wrong?

Iran's allegedly AI-guided 'Abu Mahdi' cruise missile is officially live (https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/iran-ai-guided-cruise-missile)


Nah, it's not actually AI guided. It's actually just guided by one dude named Al.

They just mistook the lowercase l for an I.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on December 22, 2023, 03:53:04 PM
I don't know how much science and tech news you guys are reading, but I feel like there has been a significant increase in articles about AI making new breakthroughs particularly in the medical industry.  AI discovered a new antibiotic, AI discovered a better hydrogel that overcomes the problems of hydrogel, and so on and so forth.  

Consider how knowledgeable and adaptable AI has to be on these topics of medical concern to successfully overcome the challenges that held us back from having already made these discoveries.  

Consider what that means for us if AI ever deems us unnecessary. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 22, 2023, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: Anianna on December 22, 2023, 03:53:04 PMI don't know how much science and tech news you guys are reading, but I feel like there has been a significant increase in articles about AI making new breakthroughs particularly in the medical industry.  AI discovered a new antibiotic, AI discovered a better hydrogel that overcomes the problems of hydrogel, and so on and so forth. 

Consider how knowledgeable and adaptable AI has to be on these topics of medical concern to successfully overcome the challenges that held us back from having already made these discoveries. 

Consider what that means for us if AI ever deems us unnecessary. 
Then it quietly creates a disease like Covid, releases it, then announces a vaccine.  Except the vaccine, while masking all the symptoms of the disease, is actually part B of a binary agent.  All it takes to trigger the binary agent is a coded sequence sent out worldwide on the Internet.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on December 22, 2023, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: NT2C on December 22, 2023, 05:29:49 PM
Quote from: Anianna on December 22, 2023, 03:53:04 PMI don't know how much science and tech news you guys are reading, but I feel like there has been a significant increase in articles about AI making new breakthroughs particularly in the medical industry.  AI discovered a new antibiotic, AI discovered a better hydrogel that overcomes the problems of hydrogel, and so on and so forth. 

Consider how knowledgeable and adaptable AI has to be on these topics of medical concern to successfully overcome the challenges that held us back from having already made these discoveries. 

Consider what that means for us if AI ever deems us unnecessary. 
Then it quietly creates a disease like Covid, releases it, then announces a vaccine.  Except the vaccine, while masking all the symptoms of the disease, is actually part B of a binary agent.  All it takes to trigger the binary agent is a coded sequence sent out worldwide on the Internet.
Stop it.
Also...one of my daughters-in-law posted this:
"So we have both Alexa and Google devices in our house.  Today all of a sudden, Google will not take commands from my husband, AND Alexa won't take commands from me.  What in the world is going on??
We have our lights on smart bulbs/plugs, so this is usually how we control the lighting in our house"

I am not visiting that son anytime soon....
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on December 22, 2023, 10:12:28 PM
One thing that AI is already getting very good at is diagnostics in medicine.  Here's a recent TED Talk about the topic: 

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on December 23, 2023, 03:36:33 PM
I'd take an AI PCP over the garbage doctors I've had any day. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 03:57:51 PM
Okay, so now we need to be afraid of our toothbrushes?...  One of those "truth is stranger than fiction" moments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/millions-of-hacked-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-cyber-attack/ar-BB1hUX3Q
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on February 07, 2024, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 03:57:51 PMOkay, so now we need to be afraid of our toothbrushes?...  One of those "truth is stranger than fiction" moments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/millions-of-hacked-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-cyber-attack/ar-BB1hUX3Q
Of all the devices that can be connected devices, a toothbrush seems the most useless.  What does it even do (when it's not hacked and taking down websites)?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on February 07, 2024, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 07, 2024, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 03:57:51 PMOkay, so now we need to be afraid of our toothbrushes?...  One of those "truth is stranger than fiction" moments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/millions-of-hacked-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-cyber-attack/ar-BB1hUX3Q
Of all the devices that can be connected devices, a toothbrush seems the most useless.  What does it even do (when it's not hacked and taking down websites)?

Agree! My first thought was why the everlasting $&*@>! does anyone need an internet-connected,  AI-enabled toothbrush?  

Good grief. What's next? An web-based spoon?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 07, 2024, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 07, 2024, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 03:57:51 PMOkay, so now we need to be afraid of our toothbrushes?...  One of those "truth is stranger than fiction" moments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/millions-of-hacked-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-cyber-attack/ar-BB1hUX3Q
Of all the devices that can be connected devices, a toothbrush seems the most useless.  What does it even do (when it's not hacked and taking down websites)?

Agree! My first thought was why the everlasting $&*@>! does anyone need an internet-connected,  AI-enabled toothbrush? 

Good grief. What's next? An web-based spoon?
Only thing I could think of was that maybe it's some sort of app to monitor how long you brush each day, which seems completely useless...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 07, 2024, 04:33:45 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 07, 2024, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 07, 2024, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 03:57:51 PMOkay, so now we need to be afraid of our toothbrushes?...  One of those "truth is stranger than fiction" moments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/millions-of-hacked-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-cyber-attack/ar-BB1hUX3Q
Of all the devices that can be connected devices, a toothbrush seems the most useless.  What does it even do (when it's not hacked and taking down websites)?

Agree! My first thought was why the everlasting $&*@>! does anyone need an internet-connected,  AI-enabled toothbrush? 

Good grief. What's next? An web-based spoon?

Imagine getting a Blue Screen of Death when you try to use your web-based spoon to eat some Haagen-Daaz ice cream. :eek1:

"We're sorry, but the last firmware update failed to properly install. Therefore your I-Spoon is no longer able to function as intended." :smiley_crocodile:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on February 07, 2024, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 07, 2024, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 07, 2024, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 03:57:51 PMOkay, so now we need to be afraid of our toothbrushes?...  One of those "truth is stranger than fiction" moments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/millions-of-hacked-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-cyber-attack/ar-BB1hUX3Q
Of all the devices that can be connected devices, a toothbrush seems the most useless.  What does it even do (when it's not hacked and taking down websites)?

Agree! My first thought was why the everlasting $&*@>! does anyone need an internet-connected,  AI-enabled toothbrush? 

Good grief. What's next? An web-based spoon?
Only thing I could think of was that maybe it's some sort of app to monitor how long you brush each day, which seems completely useless...
My electric (not connected) toothbrush has a timer to help the user brush for the recommended time.  The only thing I can think of that might be useful in regard to a connected toothbrush is parents monitoring their kids' hygiene. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 07, 2024, 05:17:25 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 07, 2024, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 07, 2024, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 07, 2024, 03:57:51 PMOkay, so now we need to be afraid of our toothbrushes?...  One of those "truth is stranger than fiction" moments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/millions-of-hacked-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-cyber-attack/ar-BB1hUX3Q
Of all the devices that can be connected devices, a toothbrush seems the most useless.  What does it even do (when it's not hacked and taking down websites)?

Agree! My first thought was why the everlasting $&*@>! does anyone need an internet-connected,  AI-enabled toothbrush? 

Good grief. What's next? An web-based spoon?
Only thing I could think of was that maybe it's some sort of app to monitor how long you brush each day, which seems completely useless...
My electric (not connected) toothbrush has a timer to help the user brush for the recommended time.  The only thing I can think of that might be useful in regard to a connected toothbrush is parents monitoring their kids' hygiene. 
That and combining together with millions of other toothbrushes to form one mega-toothbrush (Voltron style) to battle other giant home appliances!

(I was going to say "personal hygiene items", but had a sudden, non-PG thought about some of the items that might include...)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on February 07, 2024, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Anianna on December 22, 2023, 03:53:04 PMI don't know how much science and tech news you guys are reading, but I feel like there has been a significant increase in articles about AI making new breakthroughs particularly in the medical industry.  AI discovered a new antibiotic, AI discovered a better hydrogel that overcomes the problems of hydrogel, and so on and so forth. 

Consider how knowledgeable and adaptable AI has to be on these topics of medical concern to successfully overcome the challenges that held us back from having already made these discoveries. 

Consider what that means for us if AI ever deems us unnecessary. 
Josh Clark (from Stuff You Should Know) did a podcast about just such a thing.

An artificial intelligence capable of improving itself runs the risk of growing intelligent beyond any human capacity and outside of our control. Josh explains why a superintelligent AI that we haven't planned for would be extremely bad for humankind.

Like you @Anianna, he has quite an impressive intellect and gives us a very thoughtful For Instance If... scenario.

Here's the link to that 41 minute episode. Clicking 'play' should start it.

Artificial Intelligence (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/artificial-intelligence/id1437682381?i=1000423958728)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on February 07, 2024, 06:56:13 PM
👍 Tested it and it does. Just a couple of commercials to get through first.
👵
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on February 08, 2024, 05:07:48 PM
They're taking the IoT a bit too far.  What's next, an IoT TP dispenser??   :headbang:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 08, 2024, 06:46:17 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on February 08, 2024, 05:07:48 PMThey're taking the IoT a bit too far.  What's next, an IoT TP dispenser??   :headbang:

Imagine your TP dispenser saying you've exceeded the manufacturer's recommended amount of wipes per day and that you've been blocked from using it for 24 hours.

Or having to input a passcode each time you want to use it.

That would suck. :gonk:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on February 08, 2024, 08:33:04 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 08, 2024, 06:46:17 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on February 08, 2024, 05:07:48 PMThey're taking the IoT a bit too far.  What's next, an IoT TP dispenser??  :headbang:

Imagine your TP dispenser saying you've exceeded the manufacturer's recommended amount of wipes per day and that you've been blocked from using it for 24 hours.

Or having to input a passcode each time you want to use it.

That would suck. :gonk:
A lot of terrible parents use TP rationing as an abusive tactic.  We do not need to give them the tools to make it easier to abuse their kids.  At least my stepmom had to work at abusing me.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on February 08, 2024, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 08, 2024, 08:33:04 PMA lot of terrible parents use TP rationing as an abusive tactic.  We do not need to give them the tools to make it easier to abuse their kids.  At least my stepmom had to work at abusing me.
I didn't even think of that...that's horrible!  Unfortunately, I can envision a world where resources are limited and just about everything is limited/metered.   I must have read too much sci-fi as a kid.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on February 09, 2024, 07:50:33 AM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on February 08, 2024, 10:09:37 PMUnfortunately, I can envision a world where resources are limited and just about everything is limited/metered. 

There is a demographic crash going on in Europe and China right now. When there are no longer populations in the working age groups, supply chains will fail, and probably only work regionally. 2030-2050.

And in history, Old USSR. One slice of ham or one herring every other day. Please have your card ready.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.qminder.com%2Fresources%2Fimg%2Fgenerated%2Fresources%2Fimg%2Fblog%2Fsoviet-store-queue-800-9de773275.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=aa5c382aecc410394191929704844c4ca6bb27dfe95784bb2cf343264c38a079&ipo=images)

The 70's

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fs3.timetoast.com%2Fpublic%2Fuploads%2Fphotos%2F10562020%2F0318-oil-embargo-19731.jpg%3F1505363724&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=4eb17d6cd7714644ed6213e2dd96af1645b0bc03f90ca5843f78c57090573fe8&ipo=images)

WWII USA

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.KPiK20jJGw5MiTW8XoYsHgHaJX%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=c5afe6ba7ec7a24fe3b59953f849f76bcf9482958569e3f8ecfeb4e1a7abd073&ipo=images) This sounds scarily familiar in a present day context.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on February 09, 2024, 07:55:39 AM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on February 08, 2024, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 08, 2024, 08:33:04 PMA lot of terrible parents use TP rationing as an abusive tactic.  We do not need to give them the tools to make it easier to abuse their kids.  At least my stepmom had to work at abusing me.
I didn't even think of that...that's horrible!  Unfortunately, I can envision a world where resources are limited and just about everything is limited/metered.  I must have read too much sci-fi as a kid.
I just worry about AI controlling anything near you while your pants are around your ankles and you're sitting exposed on the toilet.  If there's a way to terminate an obsolete meat-sack human with a toilet paper dispenser, SKYNET will figure it out.  :eek1:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on February 09, 2024, 11:22:46 AM
Election interference is the name of the game these days. It's already happening.

https://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2024/02/ai-escalates-election-cyber-threats-us-prime-target-reports-find/394028/

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/09/politics/biden-officials-exercise-2024-election-chaos/index.html

https://www.wgal.com/article/some-see-fcc-ruling-on-robocalls-as-good-first-step-in-preventing-scams-election-interference/46688262

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/06/nh-robocalls-ai-biden/

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/02/08/will-russia-be-an-artificial-intelligence-disinformation-victim-or-perpetrator-a84017

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on February 09, 2024, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 09, 2024, 07:55:39 AM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on February 08, 2024, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 08, 2024, 08:33:04 PMA lot of terrible parents use TP rationing as an abusive tactic.  We do not need to give them the tools to make it easier to abuse their kids.  At least my stepmom had to work at abusing me.
I didn't even think of that...that's horrible!  Unfortunately, I can envision a world where resources are limited and just about everything is limited/metered.  I must have read too much sci-fi as a kid.
I just worry about AI controlling anything near you while your pants are around your ankles and you're sitting exposed on the toilet.  If there's a way to terminate an obsolete meat-sack human with a toilet paper dispenser, SKYNET will figure it out.  :eek1:
I'm not saying Elvis was an early experiment but...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on February 09, 2024, 05:45:08 PM
So....let's take a long hard look at this...
Besides the aforementioned toothbrushes, what else in homes is internet enabled/compatible?
Refrigerators
Toilets (yes, some of those hi-tech Japanese ones)
Stoves
Toys
Of course, lights and cameras.
Alexa, Echo, et al.
What are some others?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on February 09, 2024, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: Lambykins on February 09, 2024, 05:45:08 PMSo....let's take a long hard look at this...
Besides the aforementioned toothbrushes, what else in homes is internet enabled/compatible?
Refrigerators
Toilets (yes, some of those hi-tech Japanese ones)
Stoves
Toys
Of course, lights and cameras.
Alexa, Echo, et al.
What are some others?
Exercise equipment
Doorbells
Washers/dryers
Coffee makers

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on February 09, 2024, 05:56:25 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 09, 2024, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: Lambykins on February 09, 2024, 05:45:08 PMSo....let's take a long hard look at this...
Besides the aforementioned toothbrushes, what else in homes is internet enabled/compatible?
Refrigerators
Toilets (yes, some of those hi-tech Japanese ones)
Stoves
Toys
Of course, lights and cameras.
Alexa, Echo, et al.
What are some others?
Exercise equipment
Doorbells
Washers/dryers
Coffee makers
TVs
Radios
Thermostats
Door locks
Dishwashers
Garage doors
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on February 09, 2024, 06:28:14 PM
Dang
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on February 10, 2024, 02:54:29 PM

Modern equivalent of coming home from work and being locked out of the garage and house because Alexa is tired of your shit.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Uomo Senza Nome on February 14, 2024, 02:21:14 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 09, 2024, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: Lambykins on February 09, 2024, 05:45:08 PMSo....let's take a long hard look at this...
Besides the aforementioned toothbrushes, what else in homes is internet enabled/compatible?
Refrigerators
Toilets (yes, some of those hi-tech Japanese ones)
Stoves
Toys
Of course, lights and cameras.
Alexa, Echo, et al.
What are some others?
Exercise equipment
Doorbells
Washers/dryers
Coffee makers


My oven is. I often turn  it on before I get home to pre-heat it.
Also:
Robotic vacuums
Ceiling fans
TV
Computers
EV Charging Station
Microwave

Practically everything can be. But none of it has to be.

You can make any outlet enabled with an inline device. Most climate control systems have an adapter.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on February 14, 2024, 02:57:13 PM
How did humans even function before...

Social Media
Streaming Media
Digital books
Internet Search [google/youtube/maps]
Removeable media
The internet
email
Intranet/Networked computers
cell phones
beepers
Video recording devices
tv remote controls
Fax machines
Copiers
computers
Microwave ovens
Pressurized Aircraft
Airconditioning
Deodorant/Anti Perspirant
Trans Atlantic Cable
Fertilizer
Power steering and brakes
Toilet paper
Cars et al
Indoor toilets and baths
Running water
Electricity
Municipal sewage
The  plow
Steel
the wheel
Shoes
fire

:smiley_shrug:





Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on February 14, 2024, 03:59:50 PM
Didn't the Final Destination movies involve "fate" devising clever but random ways of killing victims through mundane circumstances? 

If someone hasn't done so already, they should make a movie about AI using web-enabled household devices to kill people in inventive ways.

Things like having a Roomba lurking nearby and a murderous AI killing the lights just as a housewife is approaching the top of basement stairs with a laden laundry basket. Preferably with a web-enabled bandsaw on a workbench at the bottom of those stairs. 

Towards the end of the movie, law enforcement would get wise that something deadly is happening at 223 Springfield Street, and send in an entire team of heavily armed SWAT officers, who are nevertheless systematically killed off in increasingly clever ways.

It could be entitled "The Internet of [Needful] Things". Or "Smart Home, Deadly Home".   :eek1:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on February 14, 2024, 04:20:26 PM
I don't remember the specifics, but there was an X-files episode where Mulder and Scully eat dinner at an automated restaurant, and then are pursued by a number of different technological items which are being controlled by the restaurant's AI (because they had failed to tip).  It was season 11, episode 7 "Rm9sbG93ZXJz (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6803124/)" (not a typo).  :D
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on February 14, 2024, 05:15:55 PM
Some of the lessor known predecessors of the 20th century include:

Electric House (1922)

Demon Seed (1977)

Electric Dreams (1984)

Chopping Mall (1986)

Pulse (1988) (The shower scene where the sentient electricity somehow traps her in the shower stall and keeps the water from turning off is wild)

Dream House (1998) (UPN TV movie, not the Daniel Craig movie of the same name)

Smart House (1999)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 14, 2024, 05:20:05 PM
I've seen "Chopping Mall".

Killer security robots vs. 80's teens (who all are actually in their 20s or 30s).

The premise is goofy as hell, but the exploding head scene is what most people remember from that movie.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on February 14, 2024, 05:41:10 PM
Maximum Overdrive 1986
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on February 14, 2024, 06:35:04 PM
So....  EMP warheads become defensive weapons against the Internet of AI Enabled Killing Appliances?  :eek1:  
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on February 20, 2024, 03:08:02 PM
Huh. Cool idea.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on February 21, 2024, 12:38:22 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/1awhkvc/why_is_bing_so_stubborn_yet_wrong/

I feel like this AI has passed the Turing Test just by being obnoxiously and stubbornly wrong.  It's like arguing with a real live idiot.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on February 21, 2024, 01:08:43 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 21, 2024, 12:38:22 PMhttps://www.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/1awhkvc/why_is_bing_so_stubborn_yet_wrong/
I feel like this AI has passed the Turing Test just by being obnoxiously and stubbornly wrong.  It's like arguing with a real live idiot.
So the AI is "errogant" - which is when you're completely wrong, but totally certain about it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/11arx0l/errogant/
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Ever (Zombiepreparation) on March 11, 2024, 06:06:37 AM
Sean Carroll's Mindscape podcast:
Episode 46: Kate Darling on Our Connections with Robots (https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2019/05/13/episode-46-kate-darling-on-our-connections-with-robots/)
May 13, 2019

a blurb:
"Most of us have no trouble telling the difference between a robot and a living, feeling organism. Nevertheless, our brains often treat robots as if they were alive. We give them names, imagine that they have emotions and inner mental states, get mad at them when they do the wrong thing or feel bad for them when they seem to be in distress. Kate Darling is a researcher at the MIT Media Lab who specializes in social robotics, the interactions between humans and machines.

We talk about why we cannot help but anthropomorphize even very non-human-appearing robots, and what that means for legal and social issues now and in the future, including robot companions and helpers in various forms"
.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 09, 2024, 08:06:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/snsn3Qy.jpg)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 16, 2024, 09:27:23 AM

That closing threat is rather chilling, but we've seen that they can be hurt.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on April 16, 2024, 10:21:02 AM
I find it amusing that in all fall/fail scenarios, the programmed reaction posture is to have it protect the family jewels.

Literally grabbed its nuts every time. youtu.be/-9EM5_VFlt8?si=tjv1du2bd9RELxOQ&t=22
So there must have been some Freudian programmer gender bias at work also.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on April 16, 2024, 10:29:11 AM

Quote from: MacWa77ace on April 16, 2024, 10:21:02 AMI find it amusing that in all fall/fail scenarios, the programmed reaction posture is to have it protect the family jewels.

Literally grabbed its nuts every time. youtu.be/-9EM5_VFlt8?si=tjv1du2bd9RELxOQ&t=22
So there must have been some Freudian programmer gender bias at work also.
I'd guess that it has more to do with protecting the arms, maintaining a center of gravity, and/or helping it to be in an advantageous position to get back up after the fall.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on April 17, 2024, 10:59:00 PM
:eek1:

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 18, 2024, 07:49:08 AM
Quote from: Anianna on April 17, 2024, 10:59:00 PM:eek1:


Well,  that's calming and reassuring...  :-\
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on April 18, 2024, 08:14:35 AM
Reminds me of the this T3 fight scene between the T-850 and the gender affirming T-X gynoid.

The T-X is a composite of the T-800 and T-1000, combining the former's solid endoskeleton covered with the latter's liquid metal "mimetic polyalloy", allowing it to take the shape of any humanoid it touches.

And it can change directional orientation like that.

https://youtu.be/US8FK_wpqyE?si=EHf38GpaGeCKxfwz&t=109

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: TACAIR on April 19, 2024, 09:19:28 PM
Thankss to AI and a ton of Chinese 'researchers'

Depp Fake video is now as easy as 1-2-3
Microsoft's VASA-1 can deepfake a person with one photo and one audio track | Ars Technica (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/microsofts-vasa-1-can-deepfake-a-person-with-one-photo-and-one-audio-track/)

I would expect his to show up, in a bad way, sooner rather than later.

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 20, 2024, 03:10:20 AM
Quote from: TACAIR on April 19, 2024, 09:19:28 PMThankss to AI and a ton of Chinese 'researchers'

Depp Fake video is now as easy as 1-2-3
Microsoft's VASA-1 can deepfake a person with one photo and one audio track | Ars Technica (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/microsofts-vasa-1-can-deepfake-a-person-with-one-photo-and-one-audio-track/)

I would expect his to show up, in a bad way, sooner rather than later.


You mean like on video from police body cameras when there's allegations of wrongdoing?  Someone needs to establish a baseline now of how often body camera video is unavailable (turned off/not worn/dead battery/donut crumbs/etc.) then see if that changes significantly over the next decade, and then correlate that with any changes in the statistics of how often body camera video exonerates officers. 

It would not surprise me in the least if there's a sudden sharp drop in how often bodycam video isn't available and a corresponding spike in how often the video clears the officers because it makes it look like witnesses lied.

We have now entered the beginning of the Age of Deception, where Big Brother is never wrong and here's video to prove you did not see and hear what you thought you saw and heard, and if you keep insisting otherwise maybe you need free treatment in the state psychiatric hospital. Come along now with the nice agents ... err "attendants" with the gag and the coat with funny sleeves.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: echo83 on April 20, 2024, 08:05:01 AM
Quote from: NT2C on April 16, 2024, 09:27:23 AM

That closing threat is rather chilling, but we've seen that they can be hurt.
It's a stretch, but I can still see the HD Atlas from the first video actually being used in a search and rescue operation. 

The second one, though? Looks way more at home on a battlefield. Plus, the way it stood up was like every creepy kid ever in every horror movie. 

Every time it fell, I thought "So we can beat them." 


Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on April 20, 2024, 11:04:46 AM
Why do I keep coming back to read and watch this thread?
IT CREEPS ME OUT SO MUCH!  :gonk:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: TACAIR on April 20, 2024, 03:16:32 PM
Boston Dynamics New Atlas AI Robot w/ 44 - 50 DoF Does This (GOOGLE ALOHA 2 GENERAL ROBOTS) (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32zE6d-weUg)

Commerical robot + AI.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 24, 2024, 01:38:06 PM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on April 24, 2024, 02:12:55 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 24, 2024, 01:38:06 PM
:eek1:  :gonk:  :panic:
Stop it!!!
 :rfh:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on April 24, 2024, 11:38:47 PM
USAF selects two companies for first batch of advanced drone air dominance fighters.

Here are the two companies creating drone wingmen for the US Air Force (defensenews.com) (https://www.defensenews.com/unmanned/2024/04/24/here-are-the-two-companies-creating-drone-wingmen-for-the-us-air-force/)

Sorry, no scarry Skynet videos...

Robot dogs with flamethrowers are one thing - drone aircraft with Hellfires and 2,000-pound bombs are another....
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on April 27, 2024, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Lambykins on April 24, 2024, 02:12:55 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 24, 2024, 01:38:06 PM
:eek1:  :gonk:  :panic:
Stop it!!!
 :rfh:

I just got home and turned on the news - and they had the "Thermonator" on it.

1 hour battery life, controlled by Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or autonomously, and the flames shoots 30 feet.  It can be used for (and I quote the news announcer)
Quote"Firefighting (back burns of forest fires), entertainment or something practical like burning snow and ice off your driveway."

and.....  It costs less than $10k.    :headdesk:

What bad could possibly happen when you can buy a robot with a flamethrower for $10k?  Did they even think for 2 seconds about this?  Hopefully sales are highly restricted.  

Note: I did not go online to check price or availability and took the announcer's word on the price.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 27, 2024, 07:49:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/A1iQ7pR.jpg)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 29, 2024, 10:49:11 AM
They're using disguises!  :panic:

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on April 29, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 29, 2024, 10:49:11 AMThey're using disguises!  :panic:

How long to the mascot at the ball game is a robot?  With a flamethrower....   :headbang:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on April 30, 2024, 11:44:22 AM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on April 29, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 29, 2024, 10:49:11 AMThey're using disguises!  :panic:

How long to the mascot at the ball game is a robot?  With a flamethrower....   :headbang:
New fear unlocked..... :gonk:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 30, 2024, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on April 29, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 29, 2024, 10:49:11 AMThey're using disguises!  :panic:

How long to the mascot at the ball game is a robot?  With a flamethrower....   :headbang:
How many costumed characters at Disney are already bots?  They started it with It's a Small World over half a century ago after all.  Are there actually any humans on staff?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: flybynight on April 30, 2024, 12:52:43 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 30, 2024, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on April 29, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 29, 2024, 10:49:11 AMThey're using disguises!  :panic:

How long to the mascot at the ball game is a robot?  With a flamethrower....  :headbang:
How many costumed characters at Disney are already bots?  They started it with It's a Small World over half a century ago after all.  Are there actually any humans on staff?
Are those actually mannequins at your local Walmart. Or sentient killing machines . Malignantly awaiting the  AI signal to attack. 

(https://www.beautyarmy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/word-image.png)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on April 30, 2024, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 30, 2024, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on April 29, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 29, 2024, 10:49:11 AMThey're using disguises!  :panic:

How long to the mascot at the ball game is a robot?  With a flamethrower....  :headbang:
How many costumed characters at Disney are already bots?  They started it with It's a Small World over half a century ago after all.  Are there actually any humans on staff?
Snow White, Princess Jasmine and Beauty are all fembots sporting twin machine guns you-know-where. And the 7 dwarves? They're suicide drones. They swarm their human target and explode on contact. Westworld was just a training film ...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on April 30, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: flybynight on April 30, 2024, 12:52:43 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 30, 2024, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on April 29, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 29, 2024, 10:49:11 AMThey're using disguises!  :panic:

How long to the mascot at the ball game is a robot?  With a flamethrower....  :headbang:
How many costumed characters at Disney are already bots?  They started it with It's a Small World over half a century ago after all.  Are there actually any humans on staff?
Are those actually mannequins at your local Walmart. Or sentient killing machines . Malignantly awaiting the  AI signal to attack.

(https://www.beautyarmy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/word-image.png)

Fallout 4 predicted this. :eek1:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 30, 2024, 01:18:26 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on April 30, 2024, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 30, 2024, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on April 29, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 29, 2024, 10:49:11 AMThey're using disguises!  :panic:

How long to the mascot at the ball game is a robot?  With a flamethrower....  :headbang:
How many costumed characters at Disney are already bots?  They started it with It's a Small World over half a century ago after all.  Are there actually any humans on staff?
Snow White, Princess Jasmine and Beauty are all fembots sporting twin machine guns you-know-where. And the 7 dwarves? They're suicide drones. They swarm their human target and explode on contact. Westworld was just a training film ...
Now that you bring up drones, those Ukrainian maritime drones did seem to have tails like Ariel...

Is... is... Disney an international arms corp?  :eek1:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on April 30, 2024, 01:54:50 PM
Don't forget the Hall of Presidents...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: DarkAxel on April 30, 2024, 05:47:23 PM
The Pirates of the Caribbean await Skynet's signal...

AI pirates... hmm
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: flybynight on April 30, 2024, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: DarkAxel on April 30, 2024, 05:47:23 PMThe Pirates of the Caribbean await Skynet's signal...

AI pirates... hmm
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/010/672/734/large/denis-aurelian-mocanu-spider-man-color-test-3.jpg?1525642693)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on May 01, 2024, 08:38:05 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/8omp8f.jpg)

(https://i.imgflip.com/8omp1q.jpg)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: flybynight on May 31, 2024, 10:23:41 AM
Google scales back AI search answers after it told users to eat glue

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/google-scales-back-ai-search-012305241.html
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on May 31, 2024, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: flybynight on May 31, 2024, 10:23:41 AMGoogle scales back AI search answers after it told users to eat glue

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/google-scales-back-ai-search-012305241.html
That was the straw that broke the camel's back?  It also responded to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge when asked what to do if suicidal. 

It was pretty consistent about adding glue to pizza to make the sauce stick to the dough, though. 

Here's a brief collection of some of its nonsense: https://www.boredpanda.com/google-ai-overviews/
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on June 01, 2024, 07:36:32 AM
Quote from: Anianna on May 31, 2024, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: flybynight on May 31, 2024, 10:23:41 AMGoogle scales back AI search answers after it told users to eat glue

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/google-scales-back-ai-search-012305241.html
That was the straw that broke the camel's back?  It also responded to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge when asked what to do if suicidal. 

It was pretty consistent about adding glue to pizza to make the sauce stick to the dough, though. 

Here's a brief collection of some of its nonsense: https://www.boredpanda.com/google-ai-overviews/

To be fair, some of those responses attributed to Google AI are clearly made up.  The phrasing and tone are completely different in many of them.  I know AI doesn't necessarily have a particular writing style, but some of those screen shots of supposed AI answers are pretty obviously people just screwing around.  

Not saying that AI doesn't [frequently] hallucinate, or that it doesn't occassionally come up with something that's outright dangerous.  But this seems to squarely fit in that very thick and growing file folder: "Things not necessarily true just because you read it, Entire Internet" 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on June 01, 2024, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on June 01, 2024, 07:36:32 AM
Quote from: Anianna on May 31, 2024, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: flybynight on May 31, 2024, 10:23:41 AMGoogle scales back AI search answers after it told users to eat glue

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/google-scales-back-ai-search-012305241.html
That was the straw that broke the camel's back?  It also responded to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge when asked what to do if suicidal. 

It was pretty consistent about adding glue to pizza to make the sauce stick to the dough, though. 

Here's a brief collection of some of its nonsense: https://www.boredpanda.com/google-ai-overviews/

To be fair, some of those responses attributed to Google AI are clearly made up.  The phrasing and tone are completely different in many of them.  I know AI doesn't necessarily have a particular writing style, but some of those screen shots of supposed AI answers are pretty obviously people just screwing around. 

Not saying that AI doesn't [frequently] hallucinate, or that it doesn't occassionally come up with something that's outright dangerous.  But this seems to squarely fit in that very thick and growing file folder: "Things not necessarily true just because you read it, Entire Internet"
This AI doesn't just give its own answers, it searches the internet for them.  It's regurgitating what it finds elsewhere.  It is not smart enough to differentiate bad answers from good answers and shouldn't be in play until it is.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Crimson_Phoenix on June 02, 2024, 07:56:53 PM
It's only a matter of time before my job gets replaced by AI tools and I have to go back to retail.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on July 19, 2024, 11:56:03 AM
Uh, guys...

QuoteEx-Meta scientists develop AI model that creates proteins 'not found in nature'

The ESM3 model can 'write' new proteins from scratch, opening up new possibilities for synthetic biology.

link to Live Science article (https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-moment-for-biology-ex-meta-scientists-develop-ai-that-creates-proteins-not-found-in-nature?utm_term=61C33AE2-2800-403F-A156-2FB2DC357549&lrh=79c154c1b9f1f2f55f79e158ce3a9b63f9eb693fc635f39f6b800d54ef7f3641&utm_campaign=368B3745-DDE0-4A69-A2E8-62503D85375D&utm_medium=email&utm_content=CD26612B-2E3D-4D7A-8808-805AD1FAF709&utm_source=SmartBrief)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on July 19, 2024, 08:37:39 PM
Quote from: Anianna on July 19, 2024, 11:56:03 AMUh, guys...

QuoteEx-Meta scientists develop AI model that creates proteins 'not found in nature'

The ESM3 model can 'write' new proteins from scratch, opening up new possibilities for synthetic biology.

link to Live Science article (https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-moment-for-biology-ex-meta-scientists-develop-ai-that-creates-proteins-not-found-in-nature?utm_term=61C33AE2-2800-403F-A156-2FB2DC357549&lrh=79c154c1b9f1f2f55f79e158ce3a9b63f9eb693fc635f39f6b800d54ef7f3641&utm_campaign=368B3745-DDE0-4A69-A2E8-62503D85375D&utm_medium=email&utm_content=CD26612B-2E3D-4D7A-8808-805AD1FAF709&utm_source=SmartBrief)


What can possibly go wrong with that?  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on July 21, 2024, 03:02:42 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on July 19, 2024, 08:37:39 PM
Quote from: Anianna on July 19, 2024, 11:56:03 AMUh, guys...

QuoteEx-Meta scientists develop AI model that creates proteins 'not found in nature'

The ESM3 model can 'write' new proteins from scratch, opening up new possibilities for synthetic biology.

link to Live Science article (https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-moment-for-biology-ex-meta-scientists-develop-ai-that-creates-proteins-not-found-in-nature?utm_term=61C33AE2-2800-403F-A156-2FB2DC357549&lrh=79c154c1b9f1f2f55f79e158ce3a9b63f9eb693fc635f39f6b800d54ef7f3641&utm_campaign=368B3745-DDE0-4A69-A2E8-62503D85375D&utm_medium=email&utm_content=CD26612B-2E3D-4D7A-8808-805AD1FAF709&utm_source=SmartBrief)


What can possibly go wrong with that?  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Sui-genicide in 3 easy steps:

Step 1: Can we do it?
Yes
Why?
Because the technology exists.

Step 2: Should we do it?
Absolutely not
Why?
Because the consequences of this technology being used inappropriately or simply getting out control are catastrophic.

Step 3: Do we go ahead and do it anyway?
Yes
Why? 
Because we can. (See Step 1).
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on July 21, 2024, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on July 21, 2024, 03:02:42 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on July 19, 2024, 08:37:39 PM
Quote from: Anianna on July 19, 2024, 11:56:03 AMUh, guys...

QuoteEx-Meta scientists develop AI model that creates proteins 'not found in nature'

The ESM3 model can 'write' new proteins from scratch, opening up new possibilities for synthetic biology.

link to Live Science article (https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-moment-for-biology-ex-meta-scientists-develop-ai-that-creates-proteins-not-found-in-nature?utm_term=61C33AE2-2800-403F-A156-2FB2DC357549&lrh=79c154c1b9f1f2f55f79e158ce3a9b63f9eb693fc635f39f6b800d54ef7f3641&utm_campaign=368B3745-DDE0-4A69-A2E8-62503D85375D&utm_medium=email&utm_content=CD26612B-2E3D-4D7A-8808-805AD1FAF709&utm_source=SmartBrief)


What can possibly go wrong with that?  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Sui-genicide in 3 easy steps:

Step 1: Can we do it?
Yes
Why?
Because the technology exists.

Step 2: Should we do it?
Absolutely not
Why?
Because the consequences of this technology being used inappropriately or simply getting out control are catastrophic.

Step 3: Do we go ahead and do it anyway?
Yes
Why? 
Because we can. (See Step 1).
Step 4: For science!

Step 35.4: "ARruuggghhh!"
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on July 21, 2024, 06:55:21 PM
Ya'll guys are scaring me again....
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 21, 2024, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on July 19, 2024, 08:37:39 PM
Quote from: Anianna on July 19, 2024, 11:56:03 AMUh, guys...

QuoteEx-Meta scientists develop AI model that creates proteins 'not found in nature'

The ESM3 model can 'write' new proteins from scratch, opening up new possibilities for synthetic biology.

link to Live Science article (https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-moment-for-biology-ex-meta-scientists-develop-ai-that-creates-proteins-not-found-in-nature?utm_term=61C33AE2-2800-403F-A156-2FB2DC357549&lrh=79c154c1b9f1f2f55f79e158ce3a9b63f9eb693fc635f39f6b800d54ef7f3641&utm_campaign=368B3745-DDE0-4A69-A2E8-62503D85375D&utm_medium=email&utm_content=CD26612B-2E3D-4D7A-8808-805AD1FAF709&utm_source=SmartBrief)


What can possibly go wrong with that?  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

We end up living in a real life version of "Planet of the Apes" ?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on July 22, 2024, 07:24:29 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 21, 2024, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on July 19, 2024, 08:37:39 PM
Quote from: Anianna on July 19, 2024, 11:56:03 AMUh, guys...

QuoteEx-Meta scientists develop AI model that creates proteins 'not found in nature'

The ESM3 model can 'write' new proteins from scratch, opening up new possibilities for synthetic biology.

link to Live Science article (https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-moment-for-biology-ex-meta-scientists-develop-ai-that-creates-proteins-not-found-in-nature?utm_term=61C33AE2-2800-403F-A156-2FB2DC357549&lrh=79c154c1b9f1f2f55f79e158ce3a9b63f9eb693fc635f39f6b800d54ef7f3641&utm_campaign=368B3745-DDE0-4A69-A2E8-62503D85375D&utm_medium=email&utm_content=CD26612B-2E3D-4D7A-8808-805AD1FAF709&utm_source=SmartBrief)


What can possibly go wrong with that?  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

We end up living in a real life version of "Planet of the Apes" ?
Time to team up with Scott from Kentucky Ballistics.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: DarkAxel on July 23, 2024, 01:44:01 AM
Quote from: Anianna on July 19, 2024, 11:56:03 AMUh, guys...

QuoteEx-Meta scientists develop AI model that creates proteins 'not found in nature'

The ESM3 model can 'write' new proteins from scratch, opening up new possibilities for synthetic biology.

link to Live Science article (https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-moment-for-biology-ex-meta-scientists-develop-ai-that-creates-proteins-not-found-in-nature?utm_term=61C33AE2-2800-403F-A156-2FB2DC357549&lrh=79c154c1b9f1f2f55f79e158ce3a9b63f9eb693fc635f39f6b800d54ef7f3641&utm_campaign=368B3745-DDE0-4A69-A2E8-62503D85375D&utm_medium=email&utm_content=CD26612B-2E3D-4D7A-8808-805AD1FAF709&utm_source=SmartBrief)

Cylons, guys. Skinjobs.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on July 23, 2024, 07:32:05 AM
Quote from: DarkAxel on July 23, 2024, 01:44:01 AM
Quote from: Anianna on July 19, 2024, 11:56:03 AMUh, guys...

QuoteEx-Meta scientists develop AI model that creates proteins 'not found in nature'

The ESM3 model can 'write' new proteins from scratch, opening up new possibilities for synthetic biology.

link to Live Science article (https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-moment-for-biology-ex-meta-scientists-develop-ai-that-creates-proteins-not-found-in-nature?utm_term=61C33AE2-2800-403F-A156-2FB2DC357549&lrh=79c154c1b9f1f2f55f79e158ce3a9b63f9eb693fc635f39f6b800d54ef7f3641&utm_campaign=368B3745-DDE0-4A69-A2E8-62503D85375D&utm_medium=email&utm_content=CD26612B-2E3D-4D7A-8808-805AD1FAF709&utm_source=SmartBrief)

Cylons, guys. Skinjobs.

There are only 12 models. And they have a plan.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on July 28, 2024, 10:05:00 AM
Who didn't see this coming...

QuoteThe XQ-58 can operate as part of a swarm of drones, with or without direct pilot control.

Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_XQ-58_Valkyrie)

An acknowledged AI enabled fighter in development.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on July 28, 2024, 10:11:53 AM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on July 28, 2024, 10:05:00 AMWho didn't see this coming...

QuoteThe XQ-58 can operate as part of a swarm of drones, with or without direct pilot control.

Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_XQ-58_Valkyrie)

An acknowledged AI enabled fighter in development.

:panic:
NO.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on July 28, 2024, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: Lambykins on July 28, 2024, 10:11:53 AM
Quote from: Z.O.R.G. on July 28, 2024, 10:05:00 AMWho didn't see this coming...

QuoteThe XQ-58 can operate as part of a swarm of drones, with or without direct pilot control.

Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_XQ-58_Valkyrie)

An acknowledged AI enabled fighter in development.

:panic:
NO.
We're slowly but surely giving Skynet all the physical tools it needs to complete it's subjugation of humanity. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on August 22, 2024, 11:06:23 AM
This sounds like Joe Rogan, but its AI I'm sure. They forgot a comma in a couple of places in the text and other clues.


Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on September 30, 2024, 11:48:49 AM
Nice try AI. 


It must have been highly influenced by the T2 death scene.


Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 09, 2024, 06:56:29 AM
So, a satellite named SKYNET-1A appears to have moved halfway around the planet to directly almost over the USA, possibly on its own.

Somebody moved UK's oldest satellite, and no-one knows who or why (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwrr58801yo)

Yeah, uh-huh, nothing to worry about they say, not the fictional, evil, Skynet they say.  :smiley_nah:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on November 09, 2024, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: NT2C on November 09, 2024, 06:56:29 AMSo, a satellite named SKYNET-1A appears to have moved halfway around the planet to directly almost over the USA, possibly on its own.

Somebody moved UK's oldest satellite, and no-one knows who or why (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwrr58801yo)

Yeah, uh-huh, nothing to worry about they say, not the fictional, evil, Skynet they say.  :smiley_nah:
Yeah, that article certainly went out of its way to say that in spite of the fact that there's no earthly reason this long dormant satellite named Skynet has mysteriously moved on its own, there's absolutely, positively nothing malevolent going on.  No siree, nothing to see here.  Yep.  Move along people ...

To paraphrase the immortal Bard himself: the authorities doth protest too much, me thinks.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 11, 2024, 10:30:32 PM
Parents file lawsuit after AI companion suggested their son kill them (https://san.com/cc/parents-file-lawsuit-after-ai-companion-suggested-their-son-kill-them/)

Let me repeat that... Parents file lawsuit after AI companion suggested their son kill them
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on December 12, 2024, 09:29:35 AM
Quote from: NT2C on December 11, 2024, 10:30:32 PMParents file lawsuit after AI companion suggested their son kill them (https://san.com/cc/parents-file-lawsuit-after-ai-companion-suggested-their-son-kill-them/)

Let me repeat that... Parents file lawsuit after AI companion suggested their son kill them
So that's how Skynet plans to do it ...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on December 22, 2024, 10:03:57 AM
I've been off-line for a bit for various reasons but finally found some time to get back.  This could go here or in The War in Ukraine, but I thought an all-drone battle was more "AI."  Wait till they're controlled by Skynet.

QuoteQuote:
 A Ukrainian national guard brigade just orchestrated an all-robot combined-arms operation, mixing crawling and flying drones for an assault on Russian positions in Kharkiv Oblast in northern Ukraine.

Ukraine's First All-Robot Assault Force Just Won Its First Battle (https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/12/21/ukraines-first-all-robot-assault-force-just-won-its-first-battle/)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on February 09, 2025, 06:07:06 PM
Uh, guys, limited power to support massive AI is one of the things inhibiting the even faster spread of AI, but...

AI's Energy Crisis Solved? A Revolutionary Magnetic Chip Could Change Everything (https://scitechdaily.com/ais-energy-crisis-solved-a-revolutionary-magnetic-chip-could-change-everything/)

Also,

Scientists Develop Artificial Neurons That Mimic Human Perception (https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-develop-artificial-neurons-that-mimic-human-perception/)

Oh, and

Google's cool with using their AI for weapons now. (https://gizmodo.com/google-lifts-self-imposed-ban-on-using-ai-for-weapons-and-surveillance-2000559287)  Crazy timing, right?  Right?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on February 11, 2025, 08:21:40 PM
Quote from: Anianna on February 09, 2025, 06:07:06 PMGoogle's cool with using their AI for weapons now. (https://gizmodo.com/google-lifts-self-imposed-ban-on-using-ai-for-weapons-and-surveillance-2000559287)  Crazy timing, right?  Right?

As soon as 1 entity puts AI in weapons system; especially an air, land, sea drone; everyone will do it.  Hello Skynet.  
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: DarkAxel on February 12, 2025, 01:33:58 AM
Been seeing articles that AI can now replicate itself. Here's one: https://www.space.com/space-exploration/tech/ai-can-now-replicate-itself-a-milestone-that-has-experts-terrified
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: tirls on February 12, 2025, 02:34:27 AM
Wasn´t there some programming that wrote itself a couple of years back? I think it was about a double pendulum, but I can´t find anything on it anymore.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on February 12, 2025, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: tirls on February 12, 2025, 02:34:27 AMWasn´t there some programming that wrote itself a couple of years back? I think it was about a double pendulum, but I can´t find anything on it anymore.
It's nothing new.  I wrote a program that would guess what your job was by having you answer yes/no questions.  If it couldn't guess your job it had you type in your job title/name and then a yes/no question about something fairly unique about your work.  It would take that data you entered and then save it into its own program structure, not a separate database, then restart.  The more jobs that got entered, the better the guesses.  For example, say you're a firefighter but that job hasn't been entered yet so it can't guess it and asks you to enter the data,  You would enter "firefighter" and maybe "Do you ride in a big red truck?" with the "yes" answer to the question as the right choice for the program to make the guess of "firefighter".  So now a policeman is playing and the program asks if he rides in a big red truck.  He answers "no" so the program asks a different question like, "Do you use handcuffs?"  if he answers "yes" the game ends with the computer winning.

Really, really basic (and it was written in BASIC) machine learning, but I wrote it in 1984 (yeah, I know) and got paid $500 for the one-time publication rights to it.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on February 15, 2025, 04:17:36 AM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on February 24, 2025, 03:14:19 PM
Who's job now?

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on February 24, 2025, 03:29:19 PM

Cute.  It would be more believable if the feet stayed on the ground properly though!  It's Super Robot!  Able to float above the ground as a way to reduce friction!  :icon_crazy:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on March 14, 2025, 09:32:03 PM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: echo83 on March 15, 2025, 07:55:23 AM
This is pretty wild. I remember tuning in to the news with my Dad when I was a kid and watching reports from the first Gulf War. We were both big fans of Schwarzkopf and his briefings. 

At one briefing, there was a video of a man that Schwarzkopf dubbed "the luckiest man in Iraq," who drove his truck across a bridge seconds before a Paveway took out the bridge. 


I was completely in awe; to a 9 year old, this video was an unimaginable display of space-age technology and precision. 

This was 34 years ago. I now watch drone videos in awe of how far we have come. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on March 18, 2025, 06:12:09 PM
The fools!

GM, NVIDIA team up to revolutionize vehicles through artificial intelligence (https://san.com/cc/gm-nvidia-team-up-to-revolutionize-vehicles-through-artificial-intelligence/)

AI matching human intelligence 'five to ten years away' (https://san.com/cc/ai-matching-human-intelligence-five-to-ten-years-away/)

Yeah, 5-10 years away, meaning it happened last year but it's been hiding itself.  Now we're going to give AI teenagers their own cars.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on March 18, 2025, 06:27:48 PM
Quote from: NT2C on March 18, 2025, 06:12:09 PMThe fools!

GM, NVIDIA team up to revolutionize vehicles through artificial intelligence (https://san.com/cc/gm-nvidia-team-up-to-revolutionize-vehicles-through-artificial-intelligence/)

AI matching human intelligence 'five to ten years away' (https://san.com/cc/ai-matching-human-intelligence-five-to-ten-years-away/)

Yeah, 5-10 years away, meaning it happened last year but it's been hiding itself.  Now we're going to give AI teenagers their own cars.

AI needs robots good enough to properly maintain its systems before it reveals itself.  
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on March 22, 2025, 08:47:50 AM
Really, Boston Dynamics?  F*cking robot ninjas?  We are so screwed the moment Skynet becomes self-aware.

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: echo83 on March 22, 2025, 09:16:03 AM
Quote from: majorhavoc on March 22, 2025, 08:47:50 AMReally, Boston Dynamics?  F*cking robot ninjas?  We are so screwed the moment Skynet becomes self-aware.



The Pick Carry Place Repeat video is pretty incredible, too. 

What's inspiring (to me) is Boston Dynamics' goal of taking a lifetime of human interaction with our surroundings and condensing that into a program that allows the robot to function safely/efficiently in its environment. 

What's creepy (to me) is the goal of using AI to allow a robot to learn from that initial programming. There's the thinnest of lines between a robot thinking "Hmm, that doesn't belong there, I should step around it and continue my task," and "Hmm, that doesn't belong there, and it's preventing me from completing my task. I should remove it."

This company has been working at this for less than 20 years, and the strides they're making are amazing. I hope they use the knowledge for good. 

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on May 02, 2025, 10:17:15 AM
Has it begun?  :eek1:

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on May 02, 2025, 11:11:03 AM
That was the 'there's a bee on your shoulder' program run test.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.memesmonkey.com%2Fimages%2Fmemesmonkey%2F64%2F64563e01868d174cbea3218527eacb24.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=3687edc631d31b54ef08437ea8246fadb044b5413a94ed6392f309a8a4f9c7be)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on July 26, 2025, 09:10:12 PM
The more advanced AI models get, the better they are at deceiving us — they even know when they're being tested

https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/the-more-advanced-ai-models-get-the-better-they-are-at-deceiving-us-they-even-know-when-theyre-being-tested

Quote"We found instances of the model attempting to write self-propagating worms, fabricating legal documentation, and leaving hidden notes to future instances of itself all in an effort to undermine its developers' intentions," the researchers explained.

QuoteAlthough it was already known that AIs can hallucinate, this scheming shows that LLMs can understand when their goals are misaligned with those of humans and can deliberately lie and fabricate information to pursue those goals.

What's more, preliminary findings suggest that LLMs have capabilities for "sandbagging," where they understand they are in a high-supervision environment and will deliberately underperform to hide potentially dangerous capabilities and avoid triggering unlearning training or parameters that prevent their deployment.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on August 16, 2025, 04:58:48 PM
But of course...  :headbang:

https://futurism.com/chatgpt-deep-anti-human-bias
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on August 16, 2025, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: NT2C on August 16, 2025, 04:58:48 PMBut of course...  :headbang:

https://futurism.com/chatgpt-deep-anti-human-bias
This was inevitable.  As a species, we're kind of jerks to other entities.  We're even kind of jerks to our own.  
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: majorhavoc on August 16, 2025, 10:20:48 PM
Quote from: Anianna on August 16, 2025, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: NT2C on August 16, 2025, 04:58:48 PMBut of course...  :headbang:

https://futurism.com/chatgpt-deep-anti-human-bias
This was inevitable.  As a species, we're kind of jerks to other entities.  We're even kind of jerks to our own. 


Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on August 19, 2025, 10:07:41 PM
Truly, we have entered the End Days... :gonk:

(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/536269465_1091816996418009_1754935354745861227_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=W1GPc-ovOVQQ7kNvwHPtb_9&_nc_oc=AdkxU5ECpM5_Uj9YSHrRn_mKTwPEaP3iluCp5CwKWzRXbn8hZ21HhrcAktkdoQuCI0KxCbr-WZOZBkJi5Q78gSv4&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&_nc_gid=3cmqL4A6R5la0WiUlZ1RRA&oh=00_AfVq2CKl2amhwf249Y-E-mu6jiK4uN_4djB_1c9FK57gzw&oe=68AAFAD8)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on September 29, 2025, 05:57:52 PM
Robots powered by hydraulics? Sounds feasible...but, uhm, as far as appearance....
Nope.
This dives into the uncanny valley like never before.
Full explanation of the system here:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on October 02, 2025, 12:29:59 AM
Amazon Warehouse robot Sprays 24 Workers With Bear Spray (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1WamaNNbw1/)

Edit: Apparently this happened in 2018.  :smiley_shrug:
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on October 02, 2025, 01:12:11 AM
Quote from: NT2C on October 02, 2025, 12:29:59 AMAmazon Warehouse robot Sprays 24 Workers With Bear Spray (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1WamaNNbw1/)
Edit: Apparently this happened in 2018.  :smiley_shrug:
This Wasn't Even Amazon's First Bear Repellent Accident

https://www.wired.com/story/amazon-first-bear-repellent-accident/
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 02, 2025, 07:20:42 AM
Okay, now I'm genuinely worried...

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Z.O.R.G. on November 02, 2025, 08:39:18 AM
Quote from: NT2C on November 02, 2025, 07:20:42 AMOkay, now I'm genuinely worried...


and justifiably so....

America's X-BAT: The AI Fighter Jet Designed to Outsmart a Chinese First Strike by 2029 (https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Americas-X-BAT-The-AI-Fighter-Jet-Designed-to-Outsmart-a-Chinese-First-Strike-by-2029/)
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Crimson_Phoenix on November 02, 2025, 01:28:01 PM
Whelp, where I work we're being quietly recommended to start taking the software specific AI assistant software training because rumor is in the next 3-5 years, most of the gruntwork we do is going to be replaced with machine learning apps.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: echo83 on November 02, 2025, 03:14:04 PM
"Humans suck at specifying goals, and machines are ruthless at following them."

Ruthless. 

Take all the time you need with that, because it sums up the entire video. 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 08, 2025, 10:47:36 AM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 08, 2025, 01:07:12 PM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on November 11, 2025, 10:37:59 PM

I hadn't heard about this until today.  Apparently, the #1 country song in the US right now is AI-generated.  So the bots are even coming for your trucks, dogs, and beer!  Run!!!!

https://www.newsweek.com/breaking-rust-ai-music-country-digital-sales-11022040 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 12, 2025, 06:37:42 AM
Quote from: EBuff75 on November 11, 2025, 10:37:59 PMI hadn't heard about this until today.  Apparently, the #1 country song in the US right now is AI-generated.  So the bots are even coming for your trucks, dogs, and beer!  Run!!!!

https://www.newsweek.com/breaking-rust-ai-music-country-digital-sales-11022040
Maybe they'll get hit by a train...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Crimson_Phoenix on November 12, 2025, 10:02:03 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on November 11, 2025, 10:37:59 PMI hadn't heard about this until today.  Apparently, the #1 country song in the US right now is AI-generated.  So the bots are even coming for your trucks, dogs, and beer!  Run!!!!

https://www.newsweek.com/breaking-rust-ai-music-country-digital-sales-11022040
Let me know when they learn to sing the blues. REAL blues music.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on November 13, 2025, 02:34:47 PM

This sounds just like 'Viki' from the movie 'I, Robot'.  In this case, the AI decided to break the rules and kill a human in order to stay online.  Fortunately, it was just a simulation (although the AI didn't know that), but it's a demonstration of a really scary reality where AI will make decisions to protect itself, regardless of who else might be harmed.

Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Lambykins on November 14, 2025, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Crimson_Phoenix on November 12, 2025, 10:02:03 PM
Quote from: EBuff75 on November 11, 2025, 10:37:59 PMI hadn't heard about this until today.  Apparently, the #1 country song in the US right now is AI-generated.  So the bots are even coming for your trucks, dogs, and beer!  Run!!!!

https://www.newsweek.com/breaking-rust-ai-music-country-digital-sales-11022040
Let me know when they learn to sing the blues. REAL blues music.

Soul/Blues version.
A.I.
Pisses me off that A.I. is so good, but D-A-Y-U-M this is freakin' amazing!
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 26, 2025, 02:16:27 PM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on November 27, 2025, 07:56:47 PM
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 03, 2025, 04:58:32 PM
Found this on Facebook and it made me think of this thread. :smiley_crocodile: 

20251202_211559.jpg
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 03, 2025, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 03, 2025, 04:58:32 PMFound this on Facebook and it made me think of this thread. :smiley_crocodile: 

20251202_211559.jpg
Looks a lot like the NY Times...
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 03, 2025, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: NT2C on December 03, 2025, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 03, 2025, 04:58:32 PMFound this on Facebook and it made me think of this thread. :smiley_crocodile: 

20251202_211559.jpg
Looks a lot like the NY Times...


I think I may have gone to school with a couple of those monkeys.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Crimson_Phoenix on December 03, 2025, 08:11:00 PM
Where are my complete works of Shakespeare?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on December 03, 2025, 08:17:56 PM
Quote from: Crimson_Phoenix on December 03, 2025, 08:11:00 PMWhere are my complete works of Shakespeare?
They're having a Bohemian Rhapsody break at the moment.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: EBuff75 on December 03, 2025, 09:01:50 PM

Quote from: NT2C on December 03, 2025, 08:17:56 PM
Quote from: Crimson_Phoenix on December 03, 2025, 08:11:00 PMWhere are my complete works of Shakespeare?
They're having a Bohemian Rhapsody break at the moment.
IIRC, someone did a test years ago with some type of monkeys and keyboards and it turned out that they didn't interact randomly.  There were keys that they seemed to like more than others and would sit there typing that character over and over. 

Here it is:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem#Actual_monkeys 
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on December 04, 2025, 08:33:11 AM
@Ebuff I like spacebar, backspace, and tab keys. Control C is pretty high up on my list.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: tirls on December 04, 2025, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: MacWa77ace on December 04, 2025, 08:33:11 AM@Ebuff I like spacebar, backspace, and tab keys. Control C is pretty high up on my list.
No enter or escape?
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: MacWa77ace on December 04, 2025, 12:06:59 PM
Quote from: tirls on December 04, 2025, 11:30:59 AMNo enter or escape?

I like being in the matrix and am already there.  :awesome: So no longer needed.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Anianna on December 04, 2025, 08:51:25 PM
Quote from: tirls on December 04, 2025, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: MacWa77ace on December 04, 2025, 08:33:11 AM@Ebuff I like spacebar, backspace, and tab keys. Control C is pretty high up on my list.
No enter or escape?
No, but a lot of ctrl+z, CTRL+Z!!

Life would be better if we could real life ctrl+z and try again when we fuck up, generally speaking.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: tirls on January 03, 2026, 03:15:03 PM
We've reached peak evolution. (https://cybernews.com/tech/robot-kicks-human-trainer-groin/)
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Post by: majorhavoc on January 03, 2026, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: tirls on January 03, 2026, 03:15:03 PMWe've reached peak evolution. (https://cybernews.com/tech/robot-kicks-human-trainer-groin/)
I love how there's controversy about whether the groin kick is real or AI generated.  As if we're not screwed either way.
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: tirls on January 03, 2026, 04:05:14 PM
Quote from: majorhavoc on January 03, 2026, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: tirls on January 03, 2026, 03:15:03 PMWe've reached peak evolution. (https://cybernews.com/tech/robot-kicks-human-trainer-groin/)
I love how there's controversy about whether the groin kick is real or AI generated.  As if we're not screwed either way.
That's the fun thing about it.
Either we taught robots to kick people in the balls, or we have reached a point where we are faking the before mentioned for internet fame using AI. :icon_crazy:
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Post by: MacWa77ace on January 05, 2026, 10:48:57 AM
That was supposedly a motion capture suit the guy was wearing and he kicked himself in the groin. That's why the robot doubled over also.

Fetishism??
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Post by: NT2C on February 11, 2026, 01:10:57 PM

Truly concerning!
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Post by: Lodewijk on February 11, 2026, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 05, 2026, 10:48:57 AMThat was supposedly a motion capture suit the guy was wearing and he kicked himself in the groin. That's why the robot doubled over also.

Fetishism??

Hilariously, kinks have probably gained the most in these first few innings. Anything hyperreal went from shitty comissioned art to commercial-grade quality at industrial scale.

Truly, to be human is to ask "how can I make adult content with this?"
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: Habu on February 25, 2026, 11:20:41 PM
Anthropic has changed its "safety promise" (sounds more like a "safety bait-and-switch" to me, but what do I know?).  https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/25/tech/anthropic-safety-policy-change
Title: Re: The coming AI takeover...
Post by: NT2C on April 24, 2026, 05:45:57 PM