War in Ukraine

Started by Moab, February 04, 2022, 09:48:32 PM

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So a Communion supply lorry has been reversed through the gates of the Russian embassy in Dublin, the man was arrested by Gardaí
https://youtu.be/sb745qAe7gM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/man-arrested-after-truck-driven-into-gates-of-russian-embassy-1.4820488
Obviously Russia isn't happy about this, they're the only unhappy ones tbh.
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Mr. E. Monkey

"We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions."

Oh, that is RICH.
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The letter, for those who can't read it well on mobile:

QuoteOn March 7, 2022, 13:30pm, a large truck came over to the gates of the Embassy, pulled back and torn down the gates of the Embassy.  The incident took place in the presence of Garda officers, who stood idle. 

The Embassy strongly condemns this criminal act of insanity directed against peaceful diplomatic mission.  The embassy views this incident as a clear and blatant violation of the Article 22 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic relations of 1961.  The Embassy is in contact with the Department of Foreign Affairs of Ireland, demand that the Irish authorities take comprehensive measures to ensure the safety of it's staff and their family members. 

The incident is cause of extreme concern.  We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions.

(The "it's" is their error, not mine.)

Wow.  Just, wow. 

The guy was clearly just trying to turn around and misjudged the space.  What an overreaction.  *wink wink*

Or, try this on for size, Russia:

QuoteOn February 24, 2022, Russia began a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, including the blatant targeting of innocent civilians and residential areas, and being the largest conventional military attack on a sovereign state in Europe since World War II.  The incident took place under the command of Russian authority. 

Ireland strongly condemns this criminal act of insanity directed against peaceful civilians.  Ireland views this incident as a clear and blatant violation of a multitude of international laws and treaties to which Russia is party.  If you feel your Embassy staff and their families are at risk here and wish to ensure their safety, perhaps you should remove them from the Embassy posthaste and send them to the front lines of your Ukraine offensive instead. 

The incident is cause of extreme concern.  We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions.
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wee drop o bush

Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on March 07, 2022, 02:48:57 PM
"We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions."

Oh, that is RICH.
I know right! ::)
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12_Gauge_Chimp

Quote from: wee drop o bush on March 07, 2022, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on March 07, 2022, 02:48:57 PM
"We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions."

Oh, that is RICH.
I know right! ::)

I wonder what the Russian equivalent of the old saying "The pot calling the kettle black" is.

Which, in this case, seems to be pretty fitting. The Ruskies invade Ukraine and then have the gall to complain about someone backing a truck into the gate of the Russian embassy in Ireland.

Mr. E. Monkey

Just gonna throw this out there for your consideration:  Russian aircraft losses in Ukraine 'unsustainable for more than a fortnight'






QuoteRussian jets destroyed include at least four Su-34 fighter/bomber aircraft, four Su-25 ground attack fighters, two Su-30 fighter jets and nine attack helicopters. The economic cost is huge, estimated at almost a quarter of a billion pounds for warplanes alone.
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Each day the war is prolonged costs the Kremlin about £1 billion a day – catastrophic given how hard sanctions are hitting Russia.
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Mr. E. Monkey

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 07, 2022, 03:39:57 PM
Quote from: wee drop o bush on March 07, 2022, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on March 07, 2022, 02:48:57 PM
"We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions."

Oh, that is RICH.
I know right! ::)

I wonder what the Russian equivalent of the old saying "The pot calling the kettle black" is.

Which, in this case, seems to be pretty fitting. The Ruskies invade Ukraine and then have the gall to complain about someone backing a truck into the gate of the Russian embassy in Ireland.


Putin:  Come on, man!  Killing civilians is one thing, but that was a really nice gate...  :tickedoff:
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NT2C

Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on March 07, 2022, 02:48:57 PM
"We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions."

Oh, that is RICH.

Well... we are talking about the Irish after all.   :shades:

(Did I mention my grandfather came from the area of Cork?)  :greenguy:
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Anianna

Just watched a video on TV of civilians walking down a sidewalk with luggage to escape one of the cities and the fucking Russians fire a mortar at them from behind.  Just straight up shooting fleeing civilians in the back. 

Fuck Putin sideways, straight up, upside down, and any other way possible.  Fuck his little cronies willing to just straight up fire on unarmed civilians, as well. 
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NT2C

Quote from: Anianna on March 07, 2022, 06:03:06 PM
Just watched a video on TV of civilians walking down a sidewalk with luggage to escape one of the cities and the fucking Russians fire a mortar at them from behind.  Just straight up shooting fleeing civilians in the back. 

Fuck Putin sideways, straight up, upside down, and any other way possible.  Fuck his little cronies willing to just straight up fire on unarmed civilians, as well.
I saw the same video and felt the same outrage, then I stopped for a second when I realized who was taking the video... Ukrainian troops that were right on the other side of the street.  Yes, I can rage at the killing of civilians, but were they actually the intended target?  I have a feeling the Ukrainian troops were the target and the civilians were hit by accident.  Mortar fire takes time to reach the target because of the high arc.  Even a bullet has a time of flight that can be measured in seconds at longer ranges.  The shell that hit the civilian group may have been launched just as they were leaving the building and making a break for it.  No way to control it or call it back at that point.  Then you have to question why a Ukranian squad would be so close to the civilians.  Did they not realize the kind of danger their presence was bringing to those people?

Yes, I hate the violence, hate what Putin is trying to do and the broken lives it's costing, but my hate for the person who fired that shell is tempered by the hope that they did not intend that particular result.
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I am shocked...shocked I tell you. The Garda need to go round up the usual suspects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFVLAKaEWs




Quote from: wee drop o bush on March 07, 2022, 10:25:46 AM
So a Communion supply lorry has been reversed through the gates of the Russian embassy in Dublin, the man was arrested by Gardaí
https://youtu.be/sb745qAe7gM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/man-arrested-after-truck-driven-into-gates-of-russian-embassy-1.4820488
Obviously Russia isn't happy about this, they're the only unhappy ones tbh.

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Step aside Volodymyr Zelenskyy.  There's a new face of Ukrainian resistance and resolve.  She's six years old, kicking ass and taking names.  Full screen it, turn up the volume and get out the tissues.


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Quote from: NT2C on March 07, 2022, 06:14:35 PM
Quote from: Anianna on March 07, 2022, 06:03:06 PM
Just watched a video on TV of civilians walking down a sidewalk with luggage to escape one of the cities and the fucking Russians fire a mortar at them from behind.  Just straight up shooting fleeing civilians in the back. 

Fuck Putin sideways, straight up, upside down, and any other way possible.  Fuck his little cronies willing to just straight up fire on unarmed civilians, as well.
I saw the same video and felt the same outrage, then I stopped for a second when I realized who was taking the video... Ukrainian troops that were right on the other side of the street.  Yes, I can rage at the killing of civilians, but were they actually the intended target?  I have a feeling the Ukrainian troops were the target and the civilians were hit by accident.  Mortar fire takes time to reach the target because of the high arc.  Even a bullet has a time of flight that can be measured in seconds at longer ranges.  The shell that hit the civilian group may have been launched just as they were leaving the building and making a break for it.  No way to control it or call it back at that point.  Then you have to question why a Ukranian squad would be so close to the civilians.  Did they not realize the kind of danger their presence was bringing to those people?

Yes, I hate the violence, hate what Putin is trying to do and the broken lives it's costing, but my hate for the person who fired that shell is tempered by the hope that they did not intend that particular result.

That may be, but my take on it is that the civilians further down than the soldiers were hit, not the soldiers, and Russian troops have been openly and actively targeting residential neighborhoods and civilians in cars.  In another city a day or two ago, Russia had agreed to a temporary cease fire to evacuate civilians, but fired on them anyway.  If it were anybody else, I might doubt that they were actually aiming for the civilians, but, in this case, I'm pretty convinced they were aiming for the civilians. 
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Blast

Another good video to possibly explain Russia's logistics problems.

https://youtu.be/b4wRdoWpw0w
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Quote from: NT2C on March 07, 2022, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on March 07, 2022, 02:48:57 PM
"We believe that no people of sound mind could support such senseless and barbaric actions."

Oh, that is RICH.

Well... we are talking about the Irish after all.   :shades:

(Did I mention my grandfather came from the area of Cork?)  :greenguy:


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Quote from: Blast on March 07, 2022, 09:05:36 PM
Another good video to possibly explain Russia's logistics problems.

https://youtu.be/b4wRdoWpw0w
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That was a solid explanation.  It really shows the problems that come in a top-down push based logistics system, particularly when the top is full of yes-men.  :eek1:
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Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on March 08, 2022, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: Blast on March 07, 2022, 09:05:36 PM
Another good video to possibly explain Russia's logistics problems.

https://youtu.be/b4wRdoWpw0w
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That was a solid explanation.  It really shows the problems that come in a top-down push based logistics system, particularly when the top is full of yes-men.  :eek1:

Yes men who don't value the lives of anybody socially below them, to boot.  If lives are an expendable resource, who cares if they get the supplies they need. 
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To be fair, even if rampant corruption is involved (which would not surprise me in the least), the people lining their own pockets probably thought "So we've got Syria under our thumb, Assad is firmly back I power. What other foreign adventures could there possibly be? We won't be in another war for at least a decade, right? No one is going to notice."
May contain traces of derp.

majorhavoc

Interesting analysis of how western countries are reassessing the supposedly vaunted Russian military in light of its struggles in Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/07/us/politics/russia-ukraine-military.html
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Quote from: majorhavoc on March 08, 2022, 12:30:13 PM
Interesting analysis of how western countries are reassessing the supposedly vaunted Russian military in light of its struggles in Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/07/us/politics/russia-ukraine-military.html

Putin and his cronies are certainly making a laughing stock of Russia, but I wonder if he's holding back.  Could it be a trap? 

Anyway, I had a dream that Ukraine won and then invaded Russia and won that, too, and Russia was broken up into several sovereign states.  It was a nice dream.
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