Survival knuckle duster.

Started by Moab, January 26, 2023, 05:11:11 PM

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Moab

I've seen some violent looking brass knuckles before. I follow alot of this content. There are several current day manufacturers and collectors. With some impressive designs. Older examples even included knifes and pistols.

But this one just looks mean on a whole new level. 

When we discuss defense with weapons we often don't look beyond what is already in our sphere. Anyway. I thought this was pretty impressive. And takes this genre to a new level. Its not going to create any penetrating wounds. But its not going to get stuck in anything either. 


https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn23ouwjrFC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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12_Gauge_Chimp

Minus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.

I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.

Moab

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 05:39:43 PMMinus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.

I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
I've been looking at 1918 trench knives for awhile. Originals come up on IMA frequently. But they are upwards of 350 to start. There are several sold out ones at the bottom of this search page. That are originals they have sold. Unfortunately they no longer list prices. 

https://www.ima-usa.com/pages/search-results?q=1918%20trench%20knife

The only replica I have read good things about does not look original as it has a black finish. But is supposed to fairly well made. 

https://www.atlantacutlery.com/1918-us-knuckle-duster-trench-knife

This guy supposedly will make you a high quality repica for $150. But his website is a mess. You would need to email him. 

https://www.plowshareforge.com/

The cheap $25 knock offs are said to be terrible. The handle is actually pot metal. And the blade thinner than original. 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

Moab

Quote from: Moab on January 26, 2023, 05:11:11 PMI've seen some violent looking brass knuckles before. I follow alot of this content. There are several current day manufacturers and collectors. With some impressive designs. Older examples even included knifes and pistols.

But this one just looks mean on a whole new level.

When we discuss defense with weapons we often don't look beyond what is already in our sphere. Anyway. I thought this was pretty impressive. And takes this genre to a new level. Its not going to create any penetrating wounds. But its not going to get stuck in anything either.


https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn23ouwjrFC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Another thing I just noticed is the bottle opener in the center hole of the grip. Lol. I wonder if that is/was its selling cover. The other brass knuckles I have seen are marketed as belt buckles. 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

flybynight

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 05:39:43 PMMinus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.

I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
Like this ?
https://www.opticsplanet.com/combat-ready-1917-trench-knife.html?utm_source=cse&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=connexity&utm_term=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&cnxclid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&msclkid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&utm_content=opticsplanet
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12_Gauge_Chimp

Quote from: flybynight on January 26, 2023, 06:44:01 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 05:39:43 PMMinus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.

I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
Like this ?
https://www.opticsplanet.com/combat-ready-1917-trench-knife.html?utm_source=cse&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=connexity&utm_term=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&cnxclid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&msclkid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&utm_content=opticsplanet

Not exactly. The one I've been looking for  has more of a brass knuckles style handle.

Moab

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: flybynight on January 26, 2023, 06:44:01 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 05:39:43 PMMinus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.

I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
Like this ?
https://www.opticsplanet.com/combat-ready-1917-trench-knife.html?utm_source=cse&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=connexity&utm_term=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&cnxclid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&msclkid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&utm_content=opticsplanet

Not exactly. The one I've been looking for  has more of a brass knuckles style handle.
Ya. Thats a WWI knife. But a poor looking replica. IMA sells originals. The 1918 is a WWII knife. 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

12_Gauge_Chimp

I thought the 1918 was a WW1 model ?

Maybe it was adopted in 1918, but not before the war ended.

Moab

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 09:52:47 PMI thought the 1918 was a WW1 model ?

Maybe it was adopted in 1918, but not before the war ended.
I stand corrected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_I_trench_knife
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Moab

I had the chance to buy a 1917 some time ago for $150. I don't recall why I didn't. 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

12_Gauge_Chimp

Quote from: Moab on January 26, 2023, 11:32:21 PMI had the chance to buy a 1917 some time ago for $150. I don't recall why I didn't.

I had a similar experience but with a US Model 1917 Enfield WW1 sniper rifle (with the original scope and sling) instead of a 1917 trench knife.

In my case, I was new to guns and young and didn't know a whole lot about WW1 era guns (or any guns, for that matter). In my younger years, I'd probably have sold or traded it off for something stupid and only later realized just how valuable the rifle really was.

Moab

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 12:13:45 AM
Quote from: Moab on January 26, 2023, 11:32:21 PMI had the chance to buy a 1917 some time ago for $150. I don't recall why I didn't.

I had a similar experience but with a US Model 1917 Enfield WW1 sniper rifle (with the original scope and sling) instead of a 1917 trench knife.

In my case, I was new to guns and young and didn't know a whole lot about WW1 era guns (or any guns, for that matter). In my younger years, I'd probably have sold or traded it off for something stupid and only later realized just how valuable the rifle really was.
Before I moved to LA I passed on a VW camper bus for $2500. Outfitted with everything including stove and sink. Probably worth at least $30,000 now. 
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Blast

Nice. The grooves in the blade are a good way to collect DNA samples of the assailant.  :smiley_knipoog:
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Apache Revolver.

Knuckle dusters are a forbidden weapon in Germany, so you are not allowed to own one even with a weapon license.

Moab

Quote from: tirls on January 27, 2023, 09:01:55 AM
Apache Revolver.

Knuckle dusters are a forbidden weapon in Germany, so you are not allowed to own one even with a weapon license.
They aren't legal in alot of places im the US. ;)
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12_Gauge_Chimp

Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 04:54:45 AM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 12:13:45 AM
Quote from: Moab on January 26, 2023, 11:32:21 PMI had the chance to buy a 1917 some time ago for $150. I don't recall why I didn't.

I had a similar experience but with a US Model 1917 Enfield WW1 sniper rifle (with the original scope and sling) instead of a 1917 trench knife.

In my case, I was new to guns and young and didn't know a whole lot about WW1 era guns (or any guns, for that matter). In my younger years, I'd probably have sold or traded it off for something stupid and only later realized just how valuable the rifle really was.
Before I moved to LA I passed on a VW camper bus for $2500. Outfitted with everything including stove and sink. Probably worth at least $30,000 now.

Depending on the year, it could be worth a lot more than 30k.

I've seen some 60's model VW vans go for well north of 100k. It all depends on the year model and certain other features like how many windows it has.

12_Gauge_Chimp

Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 10:47:58 AM
Quote from: tirls on January 27, 2023, 09:01:55 AM
Apache Revolver.

Knuckle dusters are a forbidden weapon in Germany, so you are not allowed to own one even with a weapon license.
They aren't legal in alot of places im the US. ;)

Brass knuckles are legal in Texas as of a couple years ago (2019 I think ?).

Moab

Conservative estimate. I had a '67 vw bug until a few years ago. Same condition an options as this.
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12_Gauge_Chimp

Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 11:24:51 AMConservative estimate. I had a '67 vw bug until a few years ago. Same condition an options as this.
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Nice looking Bug.

For some dumb reason, I've always wanted one of those VW Thing cars, but those are even harder to find in my AO than the vans.

Also, I can't drive a stick shift, so unless VW made one with an automatic transmission, I'd be screwed.

Moab

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 11:24:51 AMConservative estimate. I had a '67 vw bug until a few years ago. Same condition an options as this.
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Nice looking Bug.

For some dumb reason, I've always wanted one of those VW Thing cars, but those are even harder to find in my AO than the vans.

Also, I can't drive a stick shift, so unless VW made one with an automatic transmission, I'd be screwed.
There was an auto trans for bugs. But they are very rare. I've only ever seen one for sale. And I've had bugs since I was a teenager. I would doubt there are any parts left for them. Unless mexico produced one. But they have not to my knowledge. Mexico continued making bugs for many years.

There may have been an auto super beetle. But I don't recall one. Those were later bugs mainly from the 70s.

The things are cool. I think those were based on Hitlers volkswagen for the military. At least in looks. He produced one during WWII. 

Here we go again running a thread off its rails. Lol. 
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