What are y'alls opinions on having a fixed blade knife attached to a chest rig or a plate carrier ?
I don't yet have a battle belt, so most of my gear rides on my chest rig or my plate carrier set up. That includes a fixed blade of some type (chest rig has a SOG Seal Pup knife and my plate carrier has a Gerber Prodigy on it).
I looked up a few rig set ups online and a few have knives on them and others don't. There seems to be a bunch of arguments regarding the pros and cons of each set up as well.
Do any of y'all carry a knife on your plate carrier or chest rigs ?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 04:30:47 PM
What are y'alls opinions on having a fixed blade knife attached to a chest rig or a plate carrier ?
I don't yet have a battle belt, so most of my gear rides on my chest rig or my plate carrier set up. That includes a fixed blade of some type (chest rig has a SOG Seal Pup knife and my plate carrier has a Gerber Prodigy on it).
I looked up a few rig set ups online and a few have knives on them and others don't. There seems to be a bunch of arguments regarding the pros and cons of each set up as well.
Do any of y'all carry a knife on your plate carrier or chest rigs ?
Your Texas state laws are a lot different from my VA laws. SMoAF warned me once that the fixed blade I routinely carried on my belt became a felony if I put a jacket on, and if carried with a firearm, even with my permit, would get me jail time. I don't carry anything that doesn't fold or have a blade under 3" since.
Quote from: NT2C on July 07, 2021, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 04:30:47 PM
What are y'alls opinions on having a fixed blade knife attached to a chest rig or a plate carrier ?
I don't yet have a battle belt, so most of my gear rides on my chest rig or my plate carrier set up. That includes a fixed blade of some type (chest rig has a SOG Seal Pup knife and my plate carrier has a Gerber Prodigy on it).
I looked up a few rig set ups online and a few have knives on them and others don't. There seems to be a bunch of arguments regarding the pros and cons of each set up as well.
Do any of y'all carry a knife on your plate carrier or chest rigs ?
Your Texas state laws are a lot different from my VA laws. SMoAF warned me once that the fixed blade I routinely carried on my belt became a felony if I put a jacket on, and if carried with a firearm, even with my permit, would get me jail time. I don't carry anything that doesn't fold or have a blade under 3" since.
As of a couple years ago (2017, I believe) Texas removed the blade length limits and made it legal to carry a fixed blade of whatever length a user wanted.
Not entirely sure if the blade has to be carried openly or can be concealed, though. I typically carry my EDC blade openly and haven't had any issues.
The handful of times I've been stopped was just by curious folks asking what type of knife I was carrying.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 04:30:47 PM
What are y'alls opinions on having a fixed blade knife attached to a chest rig or a plate carrier ?
I don't yet have a battle belt, so most of my gear rides on my chest rig or my plate carrier set up. That includes a fixed blade of some type (chest rig has a SOG Seal Pup knife and my plate carrier has a Gerber Prodigy on it).
I looked up a few rig set ups online and a few have knives on them and others don't. There seems to be a bunch of arguments regarding the pros and cons of each set up as well.
Do any of y'all carry a knife on your plate carrier or chest rigs ?
Not at the moment. I want a "get off me" knife. Others will carry a multi tool.
I would consider rubber banding a knife to the carrier with the intention of putting it on my belt if in a grab-N-go situation.
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
Serrated or non? Color preference?
That one was gifted by a good friend of mine and lives in my office as a last-ditch weapon with that big 9mm I let you shoot
Quote from: NT2C on July 07, 2021, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
Serrated or non? Color preference?
That one was gifted by a good friend of mine and lives in my office as a last-ditch weapon with that big 9mm I let you shoot
Non serrated and no color preference.
I find the non serrated knives are easier to sharpen if necessary. That and I have no idea how to properly sharpen a serrated blade.
I really ought to learn since quite a few of my knives have serrations.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 07:44:45 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 07, 2021, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
Serrated or non? Color preference?
That one was gifted by a good friend of mine and lives in my office as a last-ditch weapon with that big 9mm I let you shoot
Non serrated and no color preference.
I find the non serrated knives are easier to sharpen if necessary. That and I have no idea how to properly sharpen a serrated blade.
I really ought to learn since quite a few of my knives have serrations.
I don't have a chest rig , but the conversation reminded me of the picture from Helm Forge of the Benghazi warfighter carried scout style.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MnIT18uWy9Y/VH_wL5kDIDI/AAAAAAAAElo/ndxxZNUV2Z0/s1600/seal.png)
Can't really tell if it's attached to his belt or chest rig.
The only thing I've used for serrated blades is this
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=77
Works well
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 07:44:45 PM
That and I have no idea how to properly sharpen a serrated blade.
I really ought to learn since quite a few of my knives have serrations.
Basically the same as regular sharpening, but you need a tapered rod. Otherwise it's the same process: light on the forward stroke, medium on the backward stroke.
This actually reminded me to go sharpen my two favorite kitchen knives. I kept forgetting because I don't usually need a knife after the initial bit of cooking, and I can't leave the kitchen in the middle, so I generally end up just forgetting. They're nicely sharpened and polished now, but I did find a tiny nick in my 5" chef knife's blade. I hope it's a nick, at least; if not, it's a crack.
Quote from: flybynight on July 07, 2021, 08:01:27 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 07:44:45 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 07, 2021, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
Serrated or non? Color preference?
That one was gifted by a good friend of mine and lives in my office as a last-ditch weapon with that big 9mm I let you shoot
Non serrated and no color preference.
I find the non serrated knives are easier to sharpen if necessary. That and I have no idea how to properly sharpen a serrated blade.
I really ought to learn since quite a few of my knives have serrations.
I don't have a chest rig , but the conversation reminded me of the picture from Helm Forge of the Benghazi warfighter carried scout style.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MnIT18uWy9Y/VH_wL5kDIDI/AAAAAAAAElo/ndxxZNUV2Z0/s1600/seal.png)
Can't really tell if it's attached to his belt or chest rig.
The only thing I've used for serrated blades is this
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=77
Works well
Looks to me like it's attached to his belt.
As for sharpening knives, I'm still very much an amateur at it.
I'm seriously considering picking up one of those Work Sharp electric sharpeners (specifically the Ken Onion model) and sharpening my duller blades with that.
Either I learn how to properly sharpen a knife (which I currently can't do very well) or I toss money to a local knife shop in Midland and have them sharpen my blades.
ETA: I'm currently watching "Gun Stories" on Outdoor Channel and the episode deals with the M60 LMG, but there's a small bit about the MG-42 and earlier MG-34. Every time I think of an MG-34 or 42, I immediately think of SMoAF.
I also wonder what happened to his MG-34.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
So why do you want a knife? That is a key question. For a long time I ran a Chicom chest rig and ran a Mora as a neck knife. I eventually tied a Mora to a mag pouch when running a molle chest rig that a friend gave me. But I mostly want to keep weight off the rig. Especially now that I have plates. A Mora does not weigh much, but while urban I switched to a knife more like a prybar. A Navy MK3. That goes to my belt. But now that I'm rural, I need to reconsider the knife.
Generally, I'm not bushcrafting and I'm not getting in knife fights. So what do I need a knife for? That is why most people go with a multi tool.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 09:07:06 PM
As for sharpening knives, I'm still very much an amateur at it.
I'm seriously considering picking up one of those Work Sharp electric sharpeners (specifically the Ken Onion model) and sharpening my duller blades with that.
Either I learn how to properly sharpen a knife (which I currently can't do very well) or I toss money to a local knife shop in Midland and have them sharpen my blades.
I actually have one of the Work Sharp electric sharpeners, and I have to recommend against it as a primary sharpener. It'll get your blade sharp, quick, but there are two downsides: first, it'll put a convex bevel on the primary grind, which will make it harder to sharpen on a stone or whatever later; second, it removes material
too fast, and you can reduce a blade by a good 1/16th almost before you know it.
What I'd do is get a cheapie kitchen knife (dollar store, thrift shop, that shitty knife from the back of the drawer, whatever), watch a few videos (Joshua Weissman has a good one...but he's terribly annoying), then sit and watch TV or the sunset and sharpen away. Once you've got that one down, any other blade is the same basic process but different angles. Basically: let it 'drag' forward (the blade moving towards the blade edge, applying only it's own weight), then put a few pounds of pressure back (the blade moving towards the spine). It doesn't need to be a quick motion, and probably shouldn't be (easier to maintain consistency).
For basic sharpening, I'd get a set of DMT diamond stones. I have a pair of 8-inch Duosharps (different finishes on each side; one fine/coarse, one fine/extra-fine), which are pricey but I'd highly recommend. Dad's got a set of single-sided stones in a kinda nice routed wood box (IIRC there's a coarse, a fine, and an extra-fine), which he's had for about as long as I've been alive. There's also a set for $10 at Harbor Freight that might be good enough for learning on.
If you want to get down to super-nice kitchen knife sharpening, a water stone or two is the way to go. A 1000/6000 grit combo stone will pretty much cover you, but you can get a whole host of grits; e.g. a 10,000 grit stone with a strop afterward will give a mirror polish and shaving edge. I have a set of Henckle stones; 300 grit with a 2000 grit on the other side, then a 3000 grit with a 6000 grit; I can take a knife through all four in maybe 10 minutes. Most of the time I just need to hit the 2000 then 6000 for maintenance.
I use the Duosharps for everything but my kitchen knives; those, I use the water stones and put a mirror edge on. The coarse Duosharp will remove a lot of material, fast, so it mostly gets used for things like hedge trimmer blades, hatchets, etc with the occasional edge reset of a particularly poorly done knife.
Quote from: woodsghost on July 07, 2021, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
So why do you want a knife? That is a key question. For a long time I ran a Chicom chest rig and ran a Mora as a neck knife. I eventually tied a Mora to a mag pouch when running a molle chest rig that a friend gave me. But I mostly want to keep weight off the rig. Especially now that I have plates. A Mora does not weigh much, but while urban I switched to a knife more like a prybar. A Navy MK3. That goes to my belt. But now that I'm rural, I need to reconsider the knife.
Generally, I'm not bushcrafting and I'm not getting in knife fights. So what do I need a knife for? That is why most people go with a multi tool.
I've always been kinda tempted to get a Countycom breacher bar for rough work in the woods (like batoning, cracking deer bones, etc), then a Mora or something for anything that needs a finer edge.
I do EDC a multitool, because it's usually good enough and a damned site easier than carrying a toolbox everywhere. :)
Quote from: woodsghost on July 07, 2021, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
So why do you want a knife? That is a key question. For a long time I ran a Chicom chest rig and ran a Mora as a neck knife. I eventually tied a Mora to a mag pouch when running a molle chest rig that a friend gave me. But I mostly want to keep weight off the rig. Especially now that I have plates. A Mora does not weigh much, but while urban I switched to a knife more like a prybar. A Navy MK3. That goes to my belt. But now that I'm rural, I need to reconsider the knife.
Generally, I'm not bushcrafting and I'm not getting in knife fights. So what do I need a knife for? That is why most people go with a multi tool.
I suppose I've never really considered why I need a knife on any of my rigs. Aside from the obvious "because I need to cut stuff" thing, I mean. I've always just had one on my stuff.
I just copied the layout of my stuff based off photos I've seen over the years and a lot of them had knives on their plate carriers.
I picked up a set of lansky sharpening stones about 25 years ago and never regretted it. 5 or 6 stones (I'm too lazy to go look) ranging from course to ultra fine plus the angle guides. They let me put a razor sharp edge on a knife real fast.
The kit is a bit too big to pack out into the field though.
Quote from: RoneKiln on July 08, 2021, 12:25:58 AM
I picked up a set of lansky sharpening stones about 25 years ago and never regretted it. 5 or 6 stones (I'm too lazy to go look) ranging from course to ultra fine plus the angle guides. They let me put a razor sharp edge on a knife real fast.
The kit is a bit too big to pack out into the field though.
Sharpest I've ever gotten knives is with my Lansky. My Dad was a old time butcher the first half of his life. He would take a knife to his big block whetstone on the workbench and sixty seconds later hand you back a scary sharp blade. The first time I saw the Spyderco tri sharpener was a guy at work who could sharpen the serrated edge of my Endura in just a couple minutes better than new. I remember he used that sharpener for all his knives and tools. No matter what method you use there is a learning curve.
Quote from: flybynight on July 07, 2021, 08:01:27 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 07:44:45 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 07, 2021, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
Serrated or non? Color preference?
That one was gifted by a good friend of mine and lives in my office as a last-ditch weapon with that big 9mm I let you shoot
Non serrated and no color preference.
I find the non serrated knives are easier to sharpen if necessary. That and I have no idea how to properly sharpen a serrated blade.
I really ought to learn since quite a few of my knives have serrations.
I don't have a chest rig , but the conversation reminded me of the picture from Helm Forge of the Benghazi warfighter carried scout style.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MnIT18uWy9Y/VH_wL5kDIDI/AAAAAAAAElo/ndxxZNUV2Z0/s1600/seal.png)
Can't really tell if it's attached to his belt or chest rig.
The only thing I've used for serrated blades is this
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=77
Works well
Lots of stuff. Probably need a Blade Chat.
NT2C, yes, when you're wearing a jacket over a blade goes toward concealed carry. I don't know the laws in your state but in FL we have a 'Concealed Weapon or Firearm' license. Which that covers knives that would normally be illegal to conceal without a CWFL. Of course you have to have the license. Your state might not be so all inclusive in the verbiage of your CCL.
12_Gauge
I have them on 2 carriers. one is zip tied on a USGI LBR handle up on strongside.
Another is velcroed between the chest rig and the velcro backing on the molle plate handle up. I had to put velcro tape on the front and back of the kydex knife sheath to do that. Attachments and location are based on what works and is secure.
As far as that soldier in the photo with the knife on the back of the belt. I'd bet a dollar he has another on the front side somewhere. A knife in that position at the 6 o'clock is inaccessible as a 'get off me' if you are on your back and someone is on top of you. That position is strictly backup IMO. I've tried that before but not anymore for the reasons stated. Both on the bottom of a LBR/PC and on belt.
Yeah, in VA it's a CHP (concealed handgun permit) and knives are quite clearly and specifically not covered under one.
In any case, this whole knife discussion rightly belongs in the Blades area.
Quote from: NT2C on July 08, 2021, 11:01:09 AM
Yeah, in VA it's a CHP (concealed handgun permit) and knives are quite clearly and specifically not covered under one.
In any case, this whole knife discussion rightly belongs in the Blades area.
Same thing in Michigan. It's a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) and that's all that's covered. The only "perk" is that a CPL also lets you carry a taser, but only the gun style which fires probes; handheld stun guns are illegal. *scratches head*
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: woodsghost on July 07, 2021, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
So why do you want a knife? That is a key question. For a long time I ran a Chicom chest rig and ran a Mora as a neck knife. I eventually tied a Mora to a mag pouch when running a molle chest rig that a friend gave me. But I mostly want to keep weight off the rig. Especially now that I have plates. A Mora does not weigh much, but while urban I switched to a knife more like a prybar. A Navy MK3. That goes to my belt. But now that I'm rural, I need to reconsider the knife.
Generally, I'm not bushcrafting and I'm not getting in knife fights. So what do I need a knife for? That is why most people go with a multi tool.
I suppose I've never really considered why I need a knife on any of my rigs. Aside from the obvious "because I need to cut stuff" thing, I mean. I've always just had one on my stuff.
I just copied the layout of my stuff based off photos I've seen over the years and a lot of them had knives on their plate carriers.
In general, it is helpful to let the requirements drive the equipment. But where I don't have a lot of experience, I've been known to just look around at the people who do have experience and copy them. The problem in doing that is one doesn't always have the context for why the more experienced people are doing something, so the context might not even apply to me.
Quote from: woodsghost on July 09, 2021, 08:20:46 AM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: woodsghost on July 07, 2021, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 07, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I suppose the fixed blades I've got on my plate carrier and chest rig could be used as "Get off me" knives.
I just set them up on each rig because I pretty much copied some photos I'd seen of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I figured they'd be more like utility tools instead of fighting knives.
If I can find a couple, I may swap the fixed blades with maybe a push dagger or one of those Ka Bar TDI knives. Something smaller and that'd take up less space on either set up.
So why do you want a knife? That is a key question. For a long time I ran a Chicom chest rig and ran a Mora as a neck knife. I eventually tied a Mora to a mag pouch when running a molle chest rig that a friend gave me. But I mostly want to keep weight off the rig. Especially now that I have plates. A Mora does not weigh much, but while urban I switched to a knife more like a prybar. A Navy MK3. That goes to my belt. But now that I'm rural, I need to reconsider the knife.
Generally, I'm not bushcrafting and I'm not getting in knife fights. So what do I need a knife for? That is why most people go with a multi tool.
I suppose I've never really considered why I need a knife on any of my rigs. Aside from the obvious "because I need to cut stuff" thing, I mean. I've always just had one on my stuff.
I just copied the layout of my stuff based off photos I've seen over the years and a lot of them had knives on their plate carriers.
In general, it is helpful to let the requirements drive the equipment. But where I don't have a lot of experience, I've been known to just look around at the people who do have experience and copy them. The problem in doing that is one doesn't always have the context for why the more experienced people are doing something, so the context might not even apply to me.
https://youtu.be/GbmWD0O4JJg
Ohio too is Concealed handgun license and handgun only. It does have a generous open carry policy with knives and handguns, but that is from a lack of statute against such, not a statute allowing such specifically.
Quote from: woodsghost on July 09, 2021, 08:20:46 AM
In general, it is helpful to let the requirements drive the equipment. But where I don't have a lot of experience, I've been known to just look around at the people who do have experience and copy them. The problem in doing that is one doesn't always have the context for why the more experienced people are doing something, so the context might not even apply to me.
That's pretty much how I do it because I'm always looking for better and more efficient ways, see monkey, do monkey, but then definitely test the techniques and if they don't work for me or look better than they actually work I move on to something else. But then I sort of get a running list of the people who's advise is mostly good for me vs the ones who's advise doesn't really work ever. It may be due to similar styles or physics or capabilities that advice that works from one guy for me, and then doesn't work from another guy. Or the other guy is just FOS. And sometimes I hear something that I've already tried and know it will or won't work already, but make a note of who is saying it as either a plus or minus for that guy.
Trusted advisors are key.
every time I see a discussion about knives on your equipment, my mind jumps to bayonets...............................and then to this:
CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY IN EVERY SCARY BLACK RIFLE BAN PROPOSAL, BAYONET LUGS ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AS PROHIBITED?
Do they have a fear of cold steel in their guts when the revolution starts?
Are they trying to eliminate add ons by eliminating an attachment point?
Quote from: aikorob on July 09, 2021, 10:35:17 PM
every time I see a discussion about knives on your equipment, my mind jumps to bayonets...............................and then to this:
CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY IN EVERY SCARY BLACK RIFLE BAN PROPOSAL, BAYONET LUGS ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AS PROHIBITED?
Do they have a fear of cold steel in their guts when the revolution starts?
Are they trying to eliminate add ons by eliminating an attachment point?
I think you'd probably have a better chance of finding a gold bar in your Cheerios than getting an answer to that question.
Quote from: aikorob on July 09, 2021, 10:35:17 PM
CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY IN EVERY SCARY BLACK RIFLE BAN PROPOSAL, BAYONET LUGS ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AS PROHIBITED?
The answer to that's leans rather heavily into That Which Does Not Belong Here.
Let's restrict the conversation to utility rather than policy.
Quote from: aikorob on July 09, 2021, 10:35:17 PM
every time I see a discussion about knives on your equipment, my mind jumps to bayonets...............................and then to this:
CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY IN EVERY SCARY BLACK RIFLE BAN PROPOSAL, BAYONET LUGS ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AS PROHIBITED?
Do they have a fear of cold steel in their guts when the revolution starts?
Are they trying to eliminate add ons by eliminating an attachment point?
I have seen a few people (2x) I really respect mount bayonets to their defensive shotguns. For what I suspect is a well recognized psychological effect.
Quote from: woodsghost on July 10, 2021, 08:16:19 AM
I have seen a few people (2x) I really respect mount bayonets to their defensive shotguns. For what I suspect is a well recognized psychological effect.
I'm sure it would help prevent bolder miscreants from attempting to charge and redirect the muzzle, I personally had a longer combat shotgun (mossy 590) with a lug and adding a bayonet made the already unwieldy thing almost unusable indoors. For backyard use it would be fine, for home use I can't imagine trying.
For a shorter shockwave style shotgun it's interesting to think about; I assume not having a stock to get in the way would make a bayonet far easier to use and obviously the OAL issues would be far less.
The only gun I've got that has a bayonet is my Mosin and I'm definitely not using what's basically a five foot long spear that doubles as a rifle for HD purposes.
My AR is set up for a bayonet, but I don't have one for it yet and since most AR bayonets are designed for an M4 with a shorter barrel (my AR has the standard 16 inch barrel), I'll need an adapter.
Which seems to be sold out pretty much everywhere I can think to look.
I dunno. I have one rifle with a bayonet. But I always believed the purpose of a rifle was to keep your attacker from getting within knife range
One of my trainers who was/is SWAT said sometimes people get real close, but in that situation you can muzzle thump them or start launching bullets at very close distance, depending on what is needed to address the threat.
If on neighborhood watch in a disaster area or during social unrest I think the bayonet has serious psychological impact. I also strongly agree that it makes weapons unwieldy, but I *suspect* it can reduce the possibility that weapon will need to be used in the first place.
If I was on a rooftop in Korea Town, or in Katrina, or some other situations, I would consider the application of the bayonet to the rifle. I suspect in such situations, "bluster" is as potent a tool to diffuse violence as being ready and able to dish out lead, and probably less legally problematic than using a firearm to address an active threat. But that will probably depend on jurisdiction and local laws. And so far I have not actually had to fend off social unrest. But when it was close and matching my way, that was a tool in the toolbox and legal where I lived.
I really should buy the bayonet for my BM59 while I can still find them, but they're pricey little bastards.
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
I really should buy the bayonet for my BM59 while I can still find them, but they're pricey little bastards.
I've had the same thought about my M1903 and Garand. Not out of any anticipation of use, though...just for completeness. I have period-appropriate slings on 'em as well.
Quote from: boskone on July 10, 2021, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
I really should buy the bayonet for my BM59 while I can still find them, but they're pricey little bastards.
I've had the same thought about my M1903 and Garand. Not out of any anticipation of use, though...just for completeness. I have period-appropriate slings on 'em as well.
Gonna make you weep here... We had hundreds of them aboard my ship in the armory. Cases and cases of them, at least 100 cases if not more. Bayonets and scabbards. We were ordered to just toss 'em over the side halfway across the Atlantic.
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: boskone on July 10, 2021, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
I really should buy the bayonet for my BM59 while I can still find them, but they're pricey little bastards.
I've had the same thought about my M1903 and Garand. Not out of any anticipation of use, though...just for completeness. I have period-appropriate slings on 'em as well.
Gonna make you weep here... We had hundreds of them aboard my ship in the armory. Cases and cases of them, at least 100 cases if not more. Bayonets and scabbards. We were ordered to just toss 'em over the side halfway across the Atlantic.
I'm unfortunately aware of the stuff that was just chucked into various oceans. :\
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: boskone on July 10, 2021, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
I really should buy the bayonet for my BM59 while I can still find them, but they're pricey little bastards.
I've had the same thought about my M1903 and Garand. Not out of any anticipation of use, though...just for completeness. I have period-appropriate slings on 'em as well.
Gonna make you weep here... We had hundreds of them aboard my ship in the armory. Cases and cases of them, at least 100 cases if not more. Bayonets and scabbards. We were ordered to just toss 'em over the side halfway across the Atlantic.
Didn't you have to chuck a bunch of Thompson SMG mags overboard as well ?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 10, 2021, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: boskone on July 10, 2021, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
I really should buy the bayonet for my BM59 while I can still find them, but they're pricey little bastards.
I've had the same thought about my M1903 and Garand. Not out of any anticipation of use, though...just for completeness. I have period-appropriate slings on 'em as well.
Gonna make you weep here... We had hundreds of them aboard my ship in the armory. Cases and cases of them, at least 100 cases if not more. Bayonets and scabbards. We were ordered to just toss 'em over the side halfway across the Atlantic.
Didn't you have to chuck a bunch of Thompson SMG mags overboard as well ?
Yes, indeed we did.
Somewhere in the Atlantic, there's a bunch of fish living in an artificial reef made of Thompson SMG mags.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 11, 2021, 10:53:58 AM
Somewhere in the Atlantic, there's a bunch of fish living in an artificial reef made of Thompson SMG mags.
Given today's prices, it might be the most expensive artificial reef in history.
Quote from: boskone on July 10, 2021, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
I really should buy the bayonet for my BM59 while I can still find them, but they're pricey little bastards.
I've had the same thought about my M1903 and Garand. Not out of any anticipation of use, though...just for completeness. I have period-appropriate slings on 'em as well.
Atlanta Cutlery...............can't post a link yet :headbang:
Sarco seems to find boxes of M1903 and Garand bayonets every week it'd seem. From what I've heard of them, their warehouse is massive.
I've heard it described as being like the warehouse at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark", but with rows upon rows of crates filled with military surplus instead of dangerous historical artifacts.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 11, 2021, 03:07:40 PM
Sarco seems to find boxes of M1903 and Garand bayonets every week it'd seem. From what I've heard of them, their warehouse is massive.
I've heard it described as being like the warehouse at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark", but with rows upon rows of crates filled with military surplus instead of dangerous historical artifacts.
Dang...thanks for the head's-up.
No problem, Boskone.
Sarco has a trench knife I'd like to buy, but they seem to think trench knives are still illegal in Texas. I sent them a message with a link to the Texas statute on knives and how trench knives aren't illegal anymore, but either it got lost in their email or they ignored it.
Quote from: aikorob on July 11, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Quote from: boskone on July 10, 2021, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: NT2C on July 10, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
I really should buy the bayonet for my BM59 while I can still find them, but they're pricey little bastards.
I've had the same thought about my M1903 and Garand. Not out of any anticipation of use, though...just for completeness. I have period-appropriate slings on 'em as well.
Atlanta Cutlery...............can't post a link yet :headbang:
Sorry about that but it was either a small inconvienece for new members until they reached a reasonable post count, or having moderators review every post.
Quote from: aikorob on July 11, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Atlanta Cutlery...............can't post a link yet :headbang:
This? (https://www.atlantacutlery.com/bayonets)
Also looks interesting.
Quote from: boskone on July 11, 2021, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: aikorob on July 11, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Atlanta Cutlery...............can't post a link yet :headbang:
This? (https://www.atlantacutlery.com/bayonets)
Also looks interesting.
So I don't really need anything there.
But I want....a lot....
Quote from: boskone on July 11, 2021, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: aikorob on July 11, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Atlanta Cutlery...............can't post a link yet :headbang:
This? (https://www.atlantacutlery.com/bayonets)
Also looks interesting.
yep, I have a 1917 Enfield bayonet on the way
FYI---Mike Williamson---- sharppointythings.com used to offer a service to make
any blade into a functioning bayonet
Quote from: woodsghost on July 11, 2021, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: boskone on July 11, 2021, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: aikorob on July 11, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Atlanta Cutlery...............can't post a link yet :headbang:
This? (https://www.atlantacutlery.com/bayonets)
Also looks interesting.
So I don't really need anything there.
But I want....a lot....
An eternal conundrum. "Ooh, neat" versus "That money would look really good in a savings account".
Quote from: aikorob on July 11, 2021, 09:15:07 PM
Quote from: boskone on July 11, 2021, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: aikorob on July 11, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Atlanta Cutlery...............can't post a link yet :headbang:
This? (https://www.atlantacutlery.com/bayonets)
Also looks interesting.
yep, I have a 1917 Enfield bayonet on the way
FYI---Mike Williamson---- sharppointythings.com used to offer a service to make any blade into a functioning bayonet
If anyone has a way to contact him, maybe we ought to extend an invitation to join UFoZS to him.
http://imgur.com/a/9M2M0WR (http://imgur.com/a/9M2M0WR)
So, I got a Benchmade Mini Griptillian through my last job, a few years ago. Turns out, it holds an edge pretty well. :icon_crazy:
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on August 06, 2021, 02:33:12 PM
http://imgur.com/a/9M2M0WR
So, I got a Benchmade Mini Griptillian through my last job, a few years ago. Turns out, it holds an edge pretty well. :icon_crazy:
Well.... Be more careful! Nice pics you embedded. Very good cut. Doesn't look like it needs stitches?
Quote from: woodsghost on August 06, 2021, 02:41:48 PM
Well.... Be more careful! Nice pics you embedded. Very good cut. Doesn't look like it needs stitches?
Thanks! I don't know why my text was so small there, but here it is again, normal-sized:
So, I got a Benchmade Mini Griptillian through my last job, a few years ago. Turns out, it holds an edge pretty well..[/size][/size]Short story long, I was trying to cut open an under-ripe pignut, fruit and all. I made a few decent cuts, was starting on another, and thought "gee, I should maybe move my thumb out of the way," but before I could, the nut shifted, the blade slipped, and chopped into my thumb. (No slicing involved, it just went straight in.)[/size][/size]I sat there looking at it like an idiot for a second.[/size][/size]Ow. That stings a little.[/size] :awesome:
It bled pretty well for a little bit, and I figured it was probably good to let it flush itself out a little. Put some pressure on it, and then a bandage. Put a clean bandage on it a few minutes ago, and there was hardly any blood on the old one, so I figure it's probably okay.
I hadn't cut myself like that in months. I guess I got a little careless, and paid the idiot tax.
Lessons learned:
- If you think it's a bad idea, it probably is.
- Make sure what you're trying to cut is stable.
- Do that BEFORE you try to cut anything!
- Use the right tool for the job. A pocket knife was not it for this one.
- Maintain awareness of where your fingers (and anything else you don't want to cut) are, relative to what you are cutting.
- Respect your tools (see #4)
I've got a nice faint scar on the tip of my right index finger after slicing it open with a small Kershaw knife while trying to slice a banana one time.
I was getting ready to head out to run an errand when I decided I wanted a quick snack. Out comes the Kershaw and I guess I didn't get my finger out of the way enough because two seconds later, I'm cursing and looking for some peroxide and a bandaid.
I will say that the Kershaw did a fantastic job of cutting the banana and my finger, though.
Quote from: boskone on July 11, 2021, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: aikorob on July 11, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
Atlanta Cutlery...............can't post a link yet :headbang:
This? (https://www.atlantacutlery.com/bayonets)
Also looks interesting.
rabbit hole! :awesome:
About ten years ago a bunch of us were hangin' out in the Lineman's lounge, drinking coffee and waiting for the clock on the wall to say "go home", when one of our Apprentices managed to damn near cut all the way thru the tendon on his left index finger.....He was using one of those pull-thru butterfly sharpeners on his wire skinning knife.
After the surgery, he was on light-duty for like eight weeks, waiting for it to heal-up. Of course he got a new nickname, "Timmy Tendon", which was shortened to "2T", which morphed into "Tootie". :icon_crazy:
Yet another reason no-one should ever use one of those things. :p
Picked-up an old Collins-Plymouth machete from eBay. I had one when i was like 12 years old, so just reliving some childhood nostalgia. :icon_crazy:
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/af242/boomslang45/Plymouth-Collins.jpg)
Nice blade, Rick.
I'm assuming the sheath isn't factory since those probably would've been made of canvas or nylon with a belt loop, right ?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 21, 2021, 08:25:26 PM
Nice blade, Rick.
I'm assuming the sheath isn't factory since those probably would've been made of canvas or nylon with a belt loop, right ?
Nope. A lot of those old Central American made machetes came with a frilly leather scabbard. The one I bought 35 years ago had one too.
Quote from: RickOShea on September 21, 2021, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 21, 2021, 08:25:26 PM
Nice blade, Rick.
I'm assuming the sheath isn't factory since those probably would've been made of canvas or nylon with a belt loop, right ?
Nope. A lot of those old Central American made machetes came with a frilly leather scabbard. The one I bought 35 years ago had one too.
Interesting. Aside from Condor's stuff, I've never seen a machete with a leather sheath.
Most machetes I've come across have canvas or nylon sheaths.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 21, 2021, 10:32:59 PM
Quote from: RickOShea on September 21, 2021, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 21, 2021, 08:25:26 PM
Nice blade, Rick.
I'm assuming the sheath isn't factory since those probably would've been made of canvas or nylon with a belt loop, right ?
Nope. A lot of those old Central American made machetes came with a frilly leather scabbard. The one I bought 35 years ago had one too.
Interesting. Aside from Condor's stuff, I've never seen a machete with a leather sheath.
Most machetes I've come across have canvas or nylon sheaths.
I don't know if it used to be a thing down there, or if they were just made for the tourists and for export.
A few moar examples...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324794896301?hash=item4b9f48cfad:g:uesAAOSwC4hhRmM~
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165010252529?hash=item266b60a2f1:g:cCUAAOSwz6BhEave#viTabs_0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304048734880?hash=item46cab782a0:g:RL0AAOSwEIlg2lUs
https://www.ebay.com/itm/313502277926?hash=item48fe312126:g:XcQAAOSwCQtgdevC
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144007127519?hash=item21877e61df:g:WlIAAOSwuktgdcAe
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264882640282?hash=item3dac3c559a:g:Qn8AAOSwyR5fdMfO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133456815247?hash=item1f12a5648f:g:s~kAAOSwkylfAIpn
https://www.ebay.com/itm/313651030547?hash=item49070eea13:g:y7wAAOSwNkRg5FoC
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164931675259?hash=item2666b1a47b:g:d9cAAOSwc3Bg121G
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124902869313?hash=item1d14ca8941:g:lDwAAOSwN0xhQkwP
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362763660751?hash=item5476662dcf:g:h0YAAOSwY3hdiQ~w
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363428102927?hash=item549e00c30f:g:0kUAAOSwPl1gna7I
I would guess it's probably more of a touristy thing. My dad got me a machete from Panama ages ago, and it had a leather sheath. Very kitschy. I would figure a canvas or nylon sheath would probably be preferable in rainy weather. That, and they'd probably be a bit lighter, if you are carrying it around a bit, that would probably be a plus.
On the other hand, I'd seen quite a few Filipino bolos at local markets with wood scabbards (usually palm lumber, because it's light and cheap). Then again, those blades are a bit thicker and heavier than machetes, so that might make a difference, I guess.
That being said, that is a neat-looking sheath you have there, Rick. :)
I'm betting it's a thing they do for tourist stuff.
They make fancy leather sheaths for the tourist stuff and nylon or canvas sheaths for the stuff the locals use. I think it's a similar thing to do in parts of Nepal and Thailand.
Decent steel wasn't always so cheap, and people didn't always have so much junk. Nor did we always have a near limitless source of entertainment to occupy our evenings. There may be some legit historical/cultural basis in taking the time to make pretty leather sheaths for what used to be expensive and highly visible tools.
Speaking of adding blades to rigs...
I decided it was time to add one to my EDC "rig":
(https://ufozs.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOjKi8EN.jpg&hash=88fc99ac0127f2ba966bcfb922cca9a7c8dd3016) (https://imgur.com/OjKi8EN)
(Kershaw Chive assisted flipper with a sub 2" blade)
The "flair" and suspenders are part of my "harmless grandpa" look (supplemented but my usual Hawaiian shirt and wood cane) and a surprising number of folks fail to notice the subtle things that are giveaways. :greenguy:
Quote from: NT2C on October 07, 2021, 11:55:21 AM
Speaking of adding blades to rigs...
I decided it was time to add one to my EDC "rig":
(https://ufozs.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOjKi8EN.jpg&hash=88fc99ac0127f2ba966bcfb922cca9a7c8dd3016) (https://imgur.com/OjKi8EN)
(Kershaw Chive assisted flipper with a sub 2" blade) PINK
The "flair" and suspenders are part of my "harmless grandpa" look (supplemented but my usual Hawaiian shirt and wood cane) and a surprising number of folks fail to notice the subtle things that are giveaways. :greenguy:
I'm dying ova heeeeya. LOL. Grampa Greyman!
The first thing I see of this post is the pic of the suspenders and I think "who the ____? can only be N2". Then I look at the post's owner and yep. :smiley_rolling:
Quote from: MacWa77ace on October 15, 2021, 10:06:37 AM
Quote from: NT2C on October 07, 2021, 11:55:21 AM
Speaking of adding blades to rigs...
I decided it was time to add one to my EDC "rig":
(https://ufozs.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOjKi8EN.jpg&hash=88fc99ac0127f2ba966bcfb922cca9a7c8dd3016) (https://imgur.com/OjKi8EN)
(Kershaw Chive assisted flipper with a sub 2" blade) PINK
The "flair" and suspenders are part of my "harmless grandpa" look (supplemented but my usual Hawaiian shirt and wood cane) and a surprising number of folks fail to notice the subtle things that are giveaways. :greenguy:
I'm dying ova heeeeya. LOL. Grampa Greyman!
The first thing I see of this post is the pic of the suspenders and I think "who the ____? can only be N2". Then I look at the post's owner and yep. :smiley_rolling:
I wear suspenders sometimes also. Just like NT2C , under a cover shirt ( Not Hawaian tho ) Just like he and I talked about. . To hold up,flashlight, phone, keys, gun, knife, reloads. It beats tightening your belt like a tourniquet to hold everything up.
I've been thinking of picking up a pair of suspenders myself.
Thanks to me now carrying my G21 in addition to the other crap I have on my belt, my pants now want to sag further than usual and my belt isn't really built to handle the extra weight of handgun and reload.
So that's where suspenders come into play. I'd prefer the kind that attach to my belt loops and not to the pants themselves, though.
Any recommendations?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 15, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
I've been thinking of picking up a pair of suspenders myself.
Thanks to me now carrying my G21 in addition to the other crap I have on my belt, my pants now want to sag further than usual and my belt isn't really built to handle the extra weight of handgun and reload.
So that's where suspenders come into play. I'd prefer the kind that attach to my belt loops and not to the pants themselves, though.
Any recommendations?
Until you just asked, I had never heard of the kind to attach to belt loops. Just looked them up and realized I had thought those hooks were for something else. Interesting
Quote from: flybynight on October 15, 2021, 01:46:06 PM
I wear suspenders sometimes also. Just like NT2C , under a cover shirt ( Not Hawaian tho ) Just like he and I talked about. . To hold up,flashlight, phone, keys, gun, knife, reloads. It beats tightening your belt like a tourniquet to hold everything up.
Oh, I do that too. With all the crap in my pockets I need to. On average I gain 25-35 lbs between nekkid and fully dressed with all my stuff.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 15, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
I've been thinking of picking up a pair of suspenders myself.
Thanks to me now carrying my G21 in addition to the other crap I have on my belt, my pants now want to sag further than usual and my belt isn't really built to handle the extra weight of handgun and reload.
So that's where suspenders come into play. I'd prefer the kind that attach to my belt loops and not to the pants themselves, though.
Any recommendations?
Get a quality pair that has some decent bite to the clamps and clamp them to the belt. It's stronger than the pants and won't rip apart. Those suspenders that attach to belt loops are useless.
Quote from: flybynight on October 15, 2021, 06:04:42 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 15, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
I've been thinking of picking up a pair of suspenders myself.
Thanks to me now carrying my G21 in addition to the other crap I have on my belt, my pants now want to sag further than usual and my belt isn't really built to handle the extra weight of handgun and reload.
So that's where suspenders come into play. I'd prefer the kind that attach to my belt loops and not to the pants themselves, though.
Any recommendations?
Until you just asked, I had never heard of the kind to attach to belt loops. Just looked them up and realized I had thought those hooks were for something else. Interesting
They're only as good as your belt loops, and a lot of pants are skimping on those these days. Some types of jeans have even eliminated a few. I have one pair here with just one loop in the center of the back, and one on each hip. Great if the belt is just decorative, sucks wookie balls if you actually use the belt to hold up the pants.
Quote from: NT2C on October 15, 2021, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 15, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
I've been thinking of picking up a pair of suspenders myself.
Thanks to me now carrying my G21 in addition to the other crap I have on my belt, my pants now want to sag further than usual and my belt isn't really built to handle the extra weight of handgun and reload.
So that's where suspenders come into play. I'd prefer the kind that attach to my belt loops and not to the pants themselves, though.
Any recommendations?
Get a quality pair that has some decent bite to the clamps and clamp them to the belt. It's stronger than the pants and won't rip apart. Those suspenders that attach to belt loops are useless.
Thanks for the recommendation, NT2C.
Any particular brands you'd recommend or should I just go with whatever suspenders have good clamps ?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 15, 2021, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: NT2C on October 15, 2021, 06:15:14 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 15, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
I've been thinking of picking up a pair of suspenders myself.
Thanks to me now carrying my G21 in addition to the other crap I have on my belt, my pants now want to sag further than usual and my belt isn't really built to handle the extra weight of handgun and reload.
So that's where suspenders come into play. I'd prefer the kind that attach to my belt loops and not to the pants themselves, though.
Any recommendations?
Get a quality pair that has some decent bite to the clamps and clamp them to the belt. It's stronger than the pants and won't rip apart. Those suspenders that attach to belt loops are useless.
Thanks for the recommendation, NT2C.
Any particular brands you'd recommend or should I just go with whatever suspenders have good clamps ?
I'm currently wearing a pair from Duluth Trading that just refuses to die. Same pair I wore when I met you and your family, and they were a couple years old then. Never had a pair last this long. Hell, I just gave away my hi-viz (bright lime green) to my neighbor. She wanted a pair in a bright color. They look a helluva a lot better on her curves than on mine, if you know what I mean. :smiley_knipoog:
I'll check those Duluth Trading suspenders out, NT2C.
Getting back to knives, I've been considering getting one of those CRKT CEO knives with the little flipper thing. I've got one of the earlier models with the thumb stud, but it can be kind of tricky to open. CRKT addressed that problem by making the new ones with a flipper instead of the thumb stud and now I want one.
There's a few other knives on my wishlist, including a really nice Buck 893 GCK tanto that I really want, but the CEO flipper might be the one that's most affordable at this point.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 15, 2021, 07:55:49 PM
I'll check those Duluth Trading suspenders out, NT2C.
Getting back to knives, I've been considering getting one of those CRKT CEO knives with the little flipper thing. I've got one of the earlier models with the thumb stud, but it can be kind of tricky to open. CRKT addressed that problem by making the new ones with a flipper instead of the thumb stud and now I want one.
There's a few other knives on my wishlist, including a really nice Buck 893 GCK tango that I really want, but the CEO flipper might be the one that's most affordable at this point.
I've had one on my wishlist for a while now. Really like my LCK+ Large though
Quote from: NT2C on October 15, 2021, 08:28:58 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 15, 2021, 07:55:49 PM
I'll check those Duluth Trading suspenders out, NT2C.
Getting back to knives, I've been considering getting one of those CRKT CEO knives with the little flipper thing. I've got one of the earlier models with the thumb stud, but it can be kind of tricky to open. CRKT addressed that problem by making the new ones with a flipper instead of the thumb stud and now I want one.
There's a few other knives on my wishlist, including a really nice Buck 893 GCK tango that I really want, but the CEO flipper might be the one that's most affordable at this point.
I've had one on my wishlist for a while now. Really like my LCK+ Large though
I had to look that one up. That's a nice knife.
I used to carry nothing but CRKT knives, but once I bought my Spyderco Tenacious, I switched to Spyderco. I've got a bunch of CKRT blades, though.
Matter of fact, I did a count of all the knives I own and the total was something like 80 or so blades. Most of them were folding knives. I don't have a lot of fixed blades, but there's a few on my wishlist that I want.
The main one I want right now is the Buck GCK tanto. It's a bit large for EDC, though.
Quote from: flybynight on October 15, 2021, 01:46:06 PM
I wear suspenders sometimes also. Just like NT2C , under a cover shirt ( Not Hawaian tho ) Just like he and I talked about. . To hold up,flashlight, phone, keys, gun, knife, reloads. It beats tightening your belt like a tourniquet to hold everything up.
Suspenders can be nice. But when actively preparing for disasters, it's far better to just get back into shape so your hips can actually hold up your belt. :smiley_rolling: :spitscreen:
Woodsghost is great at helping out with that. :smiley_tomatoes: But don't accept his burpee challenge.
I got a pair of uBEE suspenders from Duluth that I quite like. They have hooks that go underneath the belt rather than connecting to the pants themselves. This means you need to wear both a belt and suspenders, but I usually do anyway as the suspenders keep the pants up and the belt keeps the shirt tucked in. Plus, it means you still have a belt to hang things off of (I've actually been wanting to add belt loops to my bib overalls so I can carry more stuff, it feels silly to stuff a fixed blade knife in a sheath into a pants pocket).
Most of my relatives seem to prefer the suspenders that hook onto buttons that are permanently attached to the pants. They are hammered on kind of like rivets so you don't need to sew anything.
Quote from: NT2C on October 07, 2021, 11:55:21 AM
Speaking of adding blades to rigs...
I decided it was time to add one to my EDC "rig":
(https://ufozs.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOjKi8EN.jpg&hash=88fc99ac0127f2ba966bcfb922cca9a7c8dd3016) (https://imgur.com/OjKi8EN)
(Kershaw Chive assisted flipper with a sub 2" blade)
The "flair" and suspenders are part of my "harmless grandpa" look (supplemented but my usual Hawaiian shirt and wood cane) and a surprising number of folks fail to notice the subtle things that are giveaways. :greenguy:
I've wanted one of those Kershaw/Ken Onion knives in the crazy rainbow colors for a long time, but I keep talking myself out of it.
Quote from: Optimist on October 16, 2021, 04:12:08 AM
I've wanted one of those Kershaw/Ken Onion knives in the crazy rainbow colors for a long time, but I keep talking myself out of it.
Given the $44 price I paid for mine I understand your hesitation in buying but let me just say it is an adorable little thing, quite fun to play with, and 100% legal in many places that a larger knife wouldn't be, such as in schools and some Federal buildings.
Quote from: NT2C on October 16, 2021, 11:16:55 AM
Quote from: Optimist on October 16, 2021, 04:12:08 AM
I've wanted one of those Kershaw/Ken Onion knives in the crazy rainbow colors for a long time, but I keep talking myself out of it.
Given the $44 price I paid for mine I understand your hesitation in buying but let me just say it is an adorable little thing, quite fun to play with, and 100% legal in many places that a larger knife wouldn't be, such as in schools and some Federal buildings.
For some reason I had it in my head that they were like $70. I'll have to start looking for one!
Quote from: Optimist on October 16, 2021, 08:37:53 PM
Quote from: NT2C on October 16, 2021, 11:16:55 AM
Quote from: Optimist on October 16, 2021, 04:12:08 AM
I've wanted one of those Kershaw/Ken Onion knives in the crazy rainbow colors for a long time, but I keep talking myself out of it.
Given the $44 price I paid for mine I understand your hesitation in buying but let me just say it is an adorable little thing, quite fun to play with, and 100% legal in many places that a larger knife wouldn't be, such as in schools and some Federal buildings.
For some reason I had it in my head that they were like $70. I'll have to start looking for one!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265189711479
Anybody ever build a DIY 2x72 bench grinder?
Been putting scales on blanks and enjoying it... starting to wonder what the lift is to do my own blades.
Anyone happen to know if the CRKT Guppie tool has bronze phosphor or nylon washers by the blade or if it's bare ?
I rebuilt mine after it being in pieces for a couple years (did some maintenance on it and launched the torsion bar somewhere into the Void. Found it after moving some furniture in my bedroom/workspace) and I can't remember if it had washers by the blade.
I've watched several videos and none of them really show whether or not the tool has washers.
So I picked up a CRKT CEO folder awhile back and it developed a minor problem.
The little round bit that keeps the blade from going too far wants to back out and cause the blade to loosen up and wiggle. So I took it apart as far as I could go and popped out the factory pin. Come to find out one side is undersized. Not really enough to be noticeable, but enough to cause the pin to back out and loosen up the blade.
I replaced the factory pin with another one I had in my parts bin and it seems to have fixed my problem. I put a little dab of thread locker on the pin as an added measure, but I think the slightly longer and larger pin has fixed my issue.
If the problem occurs later on, I'll just contact CRKT and see what they can do for me.
At what length does stainless steel become more prone to breaking ?
I ask because I keep seeing a lot of blades over 12 inches made from stainless steel. I sort of remember someone on the old boards saying at a certain length, stainless steel is more prone to breaking under use, but I can't remember who said it or what the length was.
Like if the blade is under that certain length, it's fine if the blade is made of stainless steel, but it it's over that length it's not good.
I had never heard of that before.
According to Kult of Athena (https://www.kultofathena.com/blade-material/stainless-steel/),
QuoteStainless steel has high levels of chromium to give it impressive resistance to rust and blemishing. This steel requires very little maintenance and is ideal for display swords. While often eminently suitable for knives, the high levels of chromium make a sword blade brittle and prone to damage or breakage when dealing with the high impact resistances that swords are subjected to. Thus stainless steel is unfit for a functional sword blade.
I would bet that it's less a matter of the length of a piece of stainless steel in question, and more a matter of the impact force (which is largely going to be due to its length and angular velocity), so if you applied the same force on a stainless knife as would be applied to a longer sword, it would probably break just as well, all other things being equal.
That's a good point, Monkey.
I've got a couple bowie knives made from stainless steel (not sure exactly what kind, though. More likely 440C or similar), but I have no intention of using them for any sort of cutting.
Mostly because they're kind of dull and I suck at sharpening knives. :gonk:
I need to get better at sharpening. I can get a decent edge on my Spyderco, but that's kinda like saying I can drive fast in a Corvette or something. :icon_crazy:
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on May 17, 2022, 04:18:18 PMI need to get better at sharpening. I can get a decent edge on my Spyderco, but that's kinda like saying I can drive fast in a Corvette or something. :icon_crazy:
For me it's getting the angles right as I sharpen my blades.
I'm not expecting to get my knives shaving sharp (I'd need a strop to do that and I don't have one yet), but at least having them sharp enough to cut well would be nice. I can put a decent edge on some of my knives, but I can do a whole lot better.
Speaking of stainless. I'm normally not into it. (Doesn't it have a hard time on firesteels?) I'm in love with the Lionsteel T5. It has a one piece micarta handle. Not scales. 5 inch blade. So its a little big. But looks awesome as hell. I could be talked into trading my EESE 5. They do make shorter fixed blades but not of this knife. Their folders look amazing too.
https://www.lionsteel.it/n/en/product/1790_var3/t5_cvg
This pic doesn't do it justice. Click the link above. The handle is ergonomically profiled.
t5_-_green_canvas_satin-finished_blade.jpg
Quote from: NT2C on May 25, 2022, 09:02:45 PMQuote from: Moab on May 25, 2022, 08:30:38 PMI think I'm going with a Civivi and Boker. One flipper and one auto respectively.
I've heard that Boker's quality had gone seriously downhill. Civivi is a solid choice for a flipper but I think I'd go with Micro Tech for an auto.
Metal_Complex on YouTube is a good channel for knife reviews.
I wish I knew of a better 2 inch auto. That's the restrictions in CA and LA. Which suck. Big time. I like the Boker Stubby Strike. Because it's the only 2 inch auto with a decent handle and some sort of guard. It looks like you could punch into a dense material and not have your hand slide forward cutting yourself. The others like the Kershaw Launch or similar Protech look very nice. But also look like if you stabbed someone with it and you hit bone, your hand would slide forward. And you'd damage yourself pretty badly. The Boker handle also supplies a solid means of removing the blade. Whereas most all of the others do not.
I'm more concerned about missing soft tissue in high value targets of the body. Not cutting myself because of it. And being able to retrieve the knife should I end up in hard tissue.
In the end 2 inches sucks no matter how you slice it. I'm much more inclined to carry a 3 inch flipper. Which is the max allowed in LA. In CA you can conceal whatever folding knife you want. As long as it's not an auto or switchblade. Don't ask me to describe the laws any further. They are asinine and muddy at best. I spent days figuring out what I could legally carry.
I'm only considering buying both. Because I think there are alot of instances where I would carry the little 2 inch auto. And not carry a 3 inch flipper. Just from size and weight considerations. If I was in a colder climate and wearing jeans more. I'd only consider the larger flipper.
I have a long list of other knives I considered. But I'd save that for the blade section.
Quote from: Moab on May 25, 2022, 09:20:18 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 25, 2022, 09:02:45 PMQuote from: Moab on May 25, 2022, 08:30:38 PMI think I'm going with a Civivi and Boker. One flipper and one auto respectively.
I've heard that Boker's quality had gone seriously downhill. Civivi is a solid choice for a flipper but I think I'd go with Micro Tech for an auto.
Metal_Complex on YouTube is a good channel for knife reviews.
I wish I knew of a better 2 inch auto. That's the restrictions in CA and LA. Which suck. Big time. I like the Boker Stubby Strike. Because it's the only 2 inch auto with a decent handle and some sort of guard. It looks like you could punch into a dense material and not have your hand slide forward cutting yourself. The others like the Kershaw Launch or similar Protech look very nice. But also look like if you stabbed someone with it and you hit bone, your hand would slide forward. And you'd damage yourself pretty badly. The Boker handle also supplies a solid means of removing the blade. Whereas most all of the others do not.
I'm more concerned about missing soft tissue in high value targets of the body. Not cutting myself because of it. And being able to retrieve the knife should I end up in hard tissue.
In the end 2 inches sucks no matter how you slice it. I'm much more inclined to carry a 3 inch flipper. Which is the max allowed in LA. In CA you can conceal whatever folding knife you want. As long as it's not an auto or switchblade. Don't ask me to describe the laws any further. They are asinine and muddy at best. I spent days figuring out what I could legally carry.
I'm only considering buying both. Because I think there are alot of instances where I would carry the little 2 inch auto. And not carry a 3 inch flipper. Just from size and weight considerations. If I was in a colder climate and wearing jeans more. I'd only consider the larger flipper.
I have a long list of other knives I considered. But I'd save that for the blade section.
Why not combine the two and go with an assisted flipper?
I've got a Kershaw Chive I'm pretty fond of.
I'm considering picking up a Buck Hiline folder. It's been awhile since I've bought a folder and the Hiline looks pretty good to me.
It's one of Buck's foreign made blades, but it still carries their lifetime warranty.
Midway USA has them for about 32 dollars and the Walmart near me has them for 42 dollars. Given the shipping cost plus tax Midway takes, if I went that direction I'd be paying around the same price as the Walmart one.
After tax, I'd be paying probably 44 dollars or so for the knife, but I'd have it in my hands the same day versus waiting three or four days for Midway to deliver it.
I've got a couple of Kershaw flippers, a 3.5-inch Volt (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B007W1QCIY) and a 2.75-inch Cryo (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0074FI28Q). Very fast deployment, nice lockup, and very sharp. They're a bit heavy (they're both a little over 4 oz), but that's because they both have steel handles. The pocket clips are on the short side (I'd prefer another 1/4 - 1/2" of length on the clips), but they work and the Cryo is even a deep-carry style. The prices on them have gone up over the last few years, but they're still pretty cheap at $35 and $45 respectively.
What are the rules for your AO. Can you do a 3-4" folder if its not assisted or auto? [I'm just suggesting that 3-4" is not even noticeable after a few days of constant EDC.]
If that's the case there are a ton of folders that are fast as hell [with practice] and aren't assisted.
I can open my Cryo II faster than an auto because I don't have to find the safety button and unlock it first. I think its as fast as my Blur which is assisted, its just that a little more pressure is needed without the assist. But not with the full deploy, the Cryo sits really low clipped in your pocket and the Blur just a bit higher and that makes it easier, therefore faster, to deploy from the pocket.
I've been thinking of getting a high end folder and came across this article which has budget to high-end recommendations. https://knifeinformer.com/the-best-edc-folding-knife/
I was looking at the Cryo G-10 because of the grip but then decided it was redundant and that it might be time for a Zero Tolerance. But with the price of gas these days, I'm paying an extra ZT folder every 2 months in gas price increases.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on May 26, 2022, 08:21:58 AMWhat are the rules for your AO. Can you do a 3-4" folder if its not assisted or auto? [I'm just suggesting that 3-4" is not even noticeable after a few days of constant EDC.]
If that's the case there are a ton of folders that are fast as hell [with practice] and aren't assisted.
I can open my Cryo II faster than an auto because I don't have to find the safety button and unlock it first. I think its as fast as my Blur which is assisted, its just that a little more pressure is needed without the assist. But not with the full deploy, the Cryo sits really low clipped in your pocket and the Blur just a bit higher and that makes it easier, therefore faster, to deploy from the pocket.
I've been thinking of getting a high end folder and came across this article which has budget to high-end recommendations. https://knifeinformer.com/the-best-edc-folding-knife/
I was looking at the Cryo G-10 because of the grip but then decided it was redundant and that it might be time for a Zero Tolerance. But with the price of gas these days, I'm paying an extra ZT folder every 2 months in gas price increases.
3 inch max for any folder short of an auto. Statewide. Which is considered a switchblade. So an auto has to be below 2 inches. Thats statewide too. They limit fixed blades almost more harshly. I think in CA its a 3 inch fixed and it has to be concealed. They don't like open carry. And in LA it might be no fixed blades but I'm not sure about that. I just know folding is 3. 2 inch being the switchblade or auto limit.
Check out the dhgate app for blades if your into clones. You can find several model knifes in D2 for way less than original. Medfords for like $40 that go for $300-$400. Zero tolerance for the same. I was gonna pick up a kershaw 2 inch auto. I forget the model. For like $30 and it goes for $100. Same D2 steel.
I have a couple clones of knives I would never buy. Simply because the cost is ridiculous. And they are the nicest knives I have. I have a Spiderco that looks like sharp edged junk compared to my Steeve Reeves clone. And it was $17. I could never afford a Steeve Reeves. Not saying this is one. But there are some gems in the clone market. That $17 knife is waaayy better than any name brand I own in the $50-$100 range. Rounded massaged edges, perfect lines, great bearings, smooth action. Usually in D2 or better. Which is enough for me. I like to use my knifes. Would be stupid for me to invest in a $200+ knife.
But again. You have to be ok with that. Not saying anyones wrong for not doing that. I see both sides.
But I'm ok with that sort of stuff. I wear an $80 version of an $8000 watch. And you wouldnt know the diference unless you held it. I'm not a hey look at my ballin watch or knife type of guy. I just like the design fo certain watches and knifes. And am not shy about buying a knock off.
The thing about the expensive knives is they have the best steel and mechanisms. Those clones don't I'd expect.
hdgate.com China Wholesaler, looks like you have to buy in bulk, min order on these benchmade clones is qty 10.
Scary, look at the benchmade clones for $13ea qty 10. I wonder if these would even make it thru customs as they have the logo on them so they are contraband I think.
(https://www.dhresource.com/webp/m/0x0/f2/albu/g22/M01/DA/59/rBNaEmI_EhWACl8RAAi7uib7Kus467.jpg)
And the real thing.
(https://www.benchmade.com/media/catalog/product/cache/06d456d1ab4c4a0f6aa1109a196c1a4a/5/3/535_02.jpg)
I could expect that they are actually using the benchmade photos on their website to sell their stuff which come out like this if you know what i mean. And don't have a logo on them.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.V21BDWOTv5qEPZC4nnMx3AHaCu%26pid%3DApi&f=1)
I just sent my Kershaw Tanto Blur in for warranty service and their RA process has all this disclaimer stuff about clones/counterfits. now I understand why.
I'm kinda worried now because I sent that knife in a few years ago for the same thing which is the grip scales need replacing, but at that time the tip on the blade had been broken off. Blade replacement is an extra $25 and i could live with the broken tip so I didn't include that. But they replaced the blade anyhow and the new one didn't have all the Kershaw markings on it. They didn't even charge me the $7 for the return shipping that time either. So this time I wrote on the form to explain about the blade replacement in case they thought it was a counterfeit. And the return shipping is still $7 so I included that.
CBP catches about <10% of the counterfeit crap that comes in on a daily basis but as soon as they identify one and add them to their banned importers list the company folds up, changes names, and is back in business a day later.
Quote from: NT2C on May 26, 2022, 12:09:52 PMCBP catches about <10% of the counterfeit crap that comes in on a daily basis but as soon as they identify one and add them to their banned importers list the company folds up, changes names, and is back in business a day later.
Kind of like how Lorcin/Bryco/Jimenez/whatever the hell they're called now stays in business.
Except those guys operate for a few years, put out crappy guns, fold, change names and start the cycle again.
As for counterfeit blades, I used to have a pair of Kershaw Leek clones that were pretty close to the actual models. No markings on them, though.
that's why I'm suspicious of the photos on that Chinese wholesale site. they all have the logos and the appropriate boxes.
They get around that by labeling it Bentchmade or Glerber or something.
But there's also the chance that some of those brands have an 'exclusive' agreement with a Chinese MFR, to produce a specific design for import and resale in the west, a MFR who is then selling that 'exclusive design' behind their back. So you're getting the actual thing just with no markings.
I work for a North American manufacturer, and one year I went to the biggest annual trade show our industry has and a couple of different times a group of representatives from 'Chinese' MFR's came in and were photographing our stuff from every angle, pretending to be tourists.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on May 26, 2022, 02:06:38 PMthat's why I'm suspicious of the photos on that Chinese wholesale site. they all have the logos and the appropriate boxes.
They get around that by labeling it Bentchmade or Glerber or something.
But there's also the chance that some of those brands have an 'exclusive' agreement with a Chinese MFR, to produce a specific design for import and resale in the west, a MFR who is then selling that 'exclusive design' behind their back. So you're getting the actual thing just with no markings.
I work for a North American manufacturer, and one year I went to the biggest annual trade show our industry has and a couple of different times a group of representatives from 'Chinese' MFR's came in and were photographing our stuff from every angle, pretending to be tourists.
Don't most trade shows have rules against photos of stuff ?
I know SHOT Show has a specific area of the show floor set aside for stuff that's not meant for the public eye just yet and there's rules about no video or photos in the area. I'd have figured knife shows would have something similar.
I don't know, It probably depends, this one I guess not. I've been to some as a guest not work related and could take photos.
But seriously our websites have photos so detailed that I don't know why they need to do that other than some of the stuff is 'next years' models. And that stuff isn't on the website. But they shot the old stuff too. :smiley_chinrub:
Quote from: MacWa77ace on May 26, 2022, 02:06:38 PMthat's why I'm suspicious of the photos on that Chinese wholesale site. they all have the logos and the appropriate boxes.
They get around that by labeling it Bentchmade or Glerber or something.
But there's also the chance that some of those brands have an 'exclusive' agreement with a Chinese MFR, to produce a specific design for import and resale in the west, a MFR who is then selling that 'exclusive design' behind their back. So you're getting the actual thing just with no markings.
I work for a North American manufacturer, and one year I went to the biggest annual trade show our industry has and a couple of different times a group of representatives from 'Chinese' MFR's came in and were photographing our stuff from every angle, pretending to be tourists.
Allow me to introduce you to my $40 eBay "Benchmade" assisted flipper. Came in a Benchmade box too.
(https://ufozs.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzES66v9.jpg&hash=357484edbdf04e3dfcba75716607cb5697bef150) (https://imgur.com/zES66v9)
Guaranteed it was never even close to a Benchmade factory. Reported the seller to eBay, they're still selling the same knife six months later.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on May 26, 2022, 02:24:28 PMI don't know, It probably depends, this one I guess not. I've been to some as a guest not work related and could take photos.
But seriously our websites have photos so detailed that I don't know why they need to do that other than some of the stuff is 'next years' models. And that stuff isn't on the website. But they shot the old stuff too. :smiley_chinrub:
I wonder if it's because of restrictions on internet in China ?
I know some sites are banned, so maybe the company website is on the ban list or something like that.
Zero Tolerance 0452CF; Pocket Knife with 4.1" Dual-Finished S35VN Steel Blade, Carbon Fiber Front and Titanium Back Handle Scales, KVT Ball-Bearing Opening, Frame Lock, Deep-Carry Pocketclip; 4.6 OZ.,Large
$224
Big knife :shades:
(https://www.messerworld.de/media/image/38/ab/6b/zerotolerance_0452cf_handling.jpg)
I'm not a back blade flipper enthusiast though, [because you have to 'de-grip' the knife to use it] and there is no thumb stud on the blade of this one.
I think I'm ready to take the training wheels off and move to a 4+" bladed EDC folder, but want a thumbstud assisted open.
Quote from: NT2C on May 26, 2022, 02:25:06 PMGuaranteed it was never even close to a Benchmade factory. Reported the seller to eBay, they're still selling the same knife six months later.
:headbang: Did you add your verified purchaser 0 stars review?
(Sorry guys. I know this is long. My first coffee of the day. Had to get some thoughts out. Lol.)
Not sure if your going to the same site. But its dhgate not hdgate. I couldnt get your link to work, Mac.
Here's their list of folding knifes. But you can narrow it down to assisted etc etc. And you have to select which model and options before it will show a price for purchasing one.
https://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/folding-knife/s.html
Most do not have a minimum order quantity. And, nt2c, I would avoid Benchmade clones. I have not had good luck with the one I bought. Especially the bug out. Which I think is a light weight box cutter to begin with. But I bought that one on wish. Which is known to suck. Some of the Benchmades on dhgate look very good though.
Alot of these clones come from the factories where the originals are made. They put a second or night shift on. And make a run of "clones". Then sell them thru secondary vendors. (This goes for most knock offs. From cigerettes to mops.)
The ones I have received are very high quality. There are also very good knives being made in China. By original manufacturers. As I would guess most knifes are made in China now. Even from most of the known manufacturers. You will see highend original chinese knife makers on dhgate too. But I would find stateside reviews before buying any of them.
Many youtube and online reviews exist on clones. Some you can't tell without taking the knife completely apart. Certainly there are poor quality clones. Some of the Kershaws, for example, that you'll see on dhgate are less than ten dollars. Your not going to get a good knife for 10 dollars. But in the $20+ range thay make excellent knives.
Many are also sold on amazon. But without the branding. This Steve Reeves knock that I got is very nice. And I paid $17 for it on Amazon. Its nicer than my $60 Spyderco by far. I don't know if you can see the rounded and polished edges. But it is a very nice knife. With a very smooth action. And retains an excellent edge. This knifes original retails for over $600 iirc.
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I know many don't agree with clones. And I respect that. But imho alot of products in our society get priced beyond the average man. Simply because of a name brand. I was shocked when I got my original Spyderco. It was very crude. Had very sharp edges. Like they had not wasted the extra dollar finishing the knife. And just took the profit out of the customers quality. But I would not disagree with anyone not wanting to buy clones out of principle.
I own many name brand items. And appreciate what I have gotten. But there are a couple categories where I have learned not alot separates the $50 version and the $5000 one. As far as the average persons use and oerception is concerned. In the end its for simply cutting things.
Most of the time I buy the $50 one and am perfectly happy. Other times I may like the $5000 design better. Like in watches. If your willing to pay $100-$300. You can find very good quality clones of an original $5000 watch.
Same goes for knives. But knives are far simpler items. Their main duty is to simply cut things. I really do not care if I do that with D2 or some exotic steel. And I'm not a knife or watch snob. I really don't care about the branding. But i do care about the design, size etc.
I personally believe some knife manufacturers are so overpriced the common man would never be able to afford one. But in the clone market they can. Do I need a $100+ folding knife? No. Absolutely not. But I'm glad I can get a very high quality clone for $30. Its way nicer than the $50-$100 original I can get stateside.
But again, you can't expect a good clone for cheap either. You need to at least spend $25-$30.
I'm also not one of those people that is so impressed with prestige that I walk around trying to pass off knock off goods as original. I don't own a clone Rolex. Even though you can get excellent quality Swiss models that no average watch owner would know the difference. I do own an $80 clone of an $8000 watch. But 99% of people would not recognize the brand. Nor do I care. I just like the size and design of the watch on my big assed arm. Lol.
It makes me laugh sometimes. As there are reviews on youtube of Medford knife owners. Taking clones apart looking for the tiniest detail that separates their original from a clone. Groups that spend years online getting to know each other. Simply over the fact that they both own the same item.
Thats sad to me. Its like guys that buy a restored old car. And spend countless weekends driving to car shows. To pick up a trophy for something they didn't even build. I have a friend like that. Or a friend of my wife. I feel sorry for the guy. That his self esteem is so low that he's emotionally attched to something so outside of himself.
Anyway. Thats my long answer to why I don't care about brands. Especially in knives. When really you can make a perfectly exceptable one in your garage. Its really not like a watch.
I will say the next two knives I'm buying are originals from stateside. Meaning I'm buying from a stateside knife company. But ultimately they are all made in China.
But I would not hesitate to give a chinese clone a try. But the same models in clones do not exist as far as I know.
But do your research before you buy anything off dhgate. And be ready to gamble $25 on a knife that would have cost you $600. For some thats worth it. For others not. But I can replace alot of $25 pocket knifea for $600. Especially if they are the quality of my $17 one.
I honestly don't mind clones as long as they're not marketed as being the real thing.
I've seen a bunch of Sanrenmu and Ganzo knives that are pretty much 1 to 1 clones of Kershaw, Buck, Ontario knives and other brands.
Sanrenmu and Ganzo don't market them as being real Ontarios or Kershaws or others, they're just really close copies. There's maybe some minor changes, usually handle materials and maybe blade steel, but other than that, they're pretty much clones of the real deal.
I think Joerg Sprave did a couple videos where he tested a mixed bag of Ganzo knives and some of them failed, but others passed with either minimal damage or none at all. And Joerg beat the absolute hell out of them.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 26, 2022, 05:26:15 PMI honestly don't mind clones as long as they're not marketed as being the real thing.
I've seen a bunch of Sanrenmu and Ganzo knives that are pretty much 1 to 1 clones of Kershaw, Buck, Ontario knives and other brands.
Sanrenmu and Ganzo don't market them as being real Ontarios or Kershaws or others, they're just really close copies. There's maybe some minor changes, usually handle materials and maybe blade steel, but other than that, they're pretty much clones of the real deal.
I think Joerg Sprave did a couple videos where he tested a mixed bag of Ganzo knives and some of them failed, but others passed with either minimal damage or none at all. And Joerg beat the absolute hell out of them.
The Land knife I posted pics of above. Is part of that group of clones.
Quote from: Moab on May 26, 2022, 05:52:13 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 26, 2022, 05:26:15 PMI honestly don't mind clones as long as they're not marketed as being the real thing.
I've seen a bunch of Sanrenmu and Ganzo knives that are pretty much 1 to 1 clones of Kershaw, Buck, Ontario knives and other brands.
Sanrenmu and Ganzo don't market them as being real Ontarios or Kershaws or others, they're just really close copies. There's maybe some minor changes, usually handle materials and maybe blade steel, but other than that, they're pretty much clones of the real deal.
I think Joerg Sprave did a couple videos where he tested a mixed bag of Ganzo knives and some of them failed, but others passed with either minimal damage or none at all. And Joerg beat the absolute hell out of them.
The Land knife I posted pics of above. Is part of that group of clones.
Neat. I wonder if that was one of those models that didn't fail.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 26, 2022, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Moab on May 26, 2022, 05:52:13 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 26, 2022, 05:26:15 PMI honestly don't mind clones as long as they're not marketed as being the real thing.
I've seen a bunch of Sanrenmu and Ganzo knives that are pretty much 1 to 1 clones of Kershaw, Buck, Ontario knives and other brands.
Sanrenmu and Ganzo don't market them as being real Ontarios or Kershaws or others, they're just really close copies. There's maybe some minor changes, usually handle materials and maybe blade steel, but other than that, they're pretty much clones of the real deal.
I think Joerg Sprave did a couple videos where he tested a mixed bag of Ganzo knives and some of them failed, but others passed with either minimal damage or none at all. And Joerg beat the absolute hell out of them.
The Land knife I posted pics of above. Is part of that group of clones.
Neat. I wonder if that was one of those models that didn't fail.
I've read nothing but great reviews on them. And personally it was worth the $17 risk. Lol. Not to mention it was amazon. So i could return at any time.
It's been awhile since I last ordered anything from Amazon.
I should probably go back over there and see if my wishlist needs any organizing. There's probably a lot of stuff on there that Amazon doesn't sell anymore.
Quote from: moabNot sure if your going to the same site. But its dhgate not hdgate. I couldnt get your link to work, Mac.
Here's their list of folding knifes. But you can narrow it down to assisted etc etc. And you have to select which model and options before it will show a price for purchasing one.
https://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/folding-knife/s.html
https://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/search.do?act=search&dspm=pcen.dcp-111.searclick.1.T0VJgBtLf6NWXT8D8A3K%26resource_id%3D&sus=&searchkey=folding+knives&catalog=#pusearch1812
I think i typo'd that; but the other link got an error and a text based webpage, but then clicking on a catogory got me to the dhgate site which is where i pulled those images from.
I Don't mind clones, just counterfeits. NT's was a counterfeit if it was sold as a New Benchmade with a Benchmade logo but wasn't a benchmade. At least that's how I look at it.
But the other thing is the customer service and warranty support. I guess there's an argument for buying a $17 knife and just replacing it if something goes wrong. [as long as you can still get it] But if you pay $100 for the same thing and they'll replace it if it breaks for the lifetime of that knife, that's something else.
OFFTOPIC: I have clone weapon lights. I don't know what their clones of but I actually built them from the housing and bezel to the switch and LED bulbs. Which all the parts were high quality and the bulbs were exactly the same as what is used in surefire. BUT, SolarForce is out of business or I don't know what/who the replacment is for them so I can't get any more, any more parts, or if they break I'm out of luck. Surefire is still in business. I want to see if I can put a Brand name tape switch on them but am reluctant due to the price of that switch, which would be 3-4 times what I paid for the light. But in the off chance it didn't work I could just buy a brand name light to go with the switch, BUUUT the technology has changed and so a switch that would go on these SolarForce lights would not be one that would go on a current tech light and I wouldn't want to buy an old model light to go with the switch.
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Quote from: MacWa77ace on May 27, 2022, 12:48:46 PMQuote from: moabNot sure if your going to the same site. But its dhgate not hdgate. I couldnt get your link to work, Mac.
Here's their list of folding knifes. But you can narrow it down to assisted etc etc. And you have to select which model and options before it will show a price for purchasing one.
https://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/folding-knife/s.html
https://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/search.do?act=search&dspm=pcen.dcp-111.searclick.1.T0VJgBtLf6NWXT8D8A3K%26resource_id%3D&sus=&searchkey=folding+knives&catalog=#pusearch1812
I think i typo'd that; but the other link got an error and a text based webpage, but then clicking on a catogory got me to the dhgate site which is where i pulled those images from.
I Don't mind clones, just counterfeits. NT's was a counterfeit if it was sold as a New Benchmade with a Benchmade logo but wasn't a benchmade. At least that's how I look at it.
But the other thing is the customer service and warranty support. I guess there's an argument for buying a $17 knife and just replacing it if something goes wrong. [as long as you can still get it] But if you pay $100 for the same thing and they'll replace it if it breaks for the lifetime of that knife, that's something else.
OFFTOPIC: I have clone weapon lights. I don't know what their clones of but I actually built them from the housing and bezel to the switch and LED bulbs. Which all the parts were high quality and the bulbs were exactly the same as what is used in surefire. BUT, SolarForce is out of business or I don't know what/who the replacment is for them so I can't get any more, any more parts, or if they break I'm out of luck. Surefire is still in business. I want to see if I can put a Brand name tape switch on them but am reluctant due to the price of that switch, which would be 3-4 times what I paid for the light. But in the off chance it didn't work I could just buy a brand name light to go with the switch, BUUUT the technology has changed and so a switch that would go on these SolarForce lights would not be one that would go on a current tech light and I wouldn't want to buy an old model light to go with the switch.
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Link probably didn't work because i have the app. My apologies.
I will say I would not purchase a clone for my bob or inch. I have an esee 4 and esee 5. I would not trust either to a clone.
Quote from: Moab on May 27, 2022, 06:05:43 PMI will say I would not purchase a clone for my bob or inch. I have an esee 4 and esee 5. I would not trust either to a clone.
I might, but only after putting one through its paces and making sure it'll survive whatever I throw at it.
Quote from: Moab on May 27, 2022, 06:05:43 PMI will say I would not purchase a clone for my bob or inch. I have an esee 4 and esee 5. I would not trust either to a clone.
Personally, I wouldn't put anything not "tried and tested" in either. I want gear in there that's had the new knocked off and proven it can handle the job.
Modified a Ka-Bar. Need to play with it but I like these knives and this one is no exception. Frickin' ricasso WILL NOT take patina but guessing that means it probably won't rust easily either.
Side note but trying PostImage... what are you guys using to upload photos in 2020+2? Imgur is a PITA to use from my phone and I got spoiled by BCUSA's direct upload stuff.
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzKFXc29/20220530-093659.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/66DCrCyB/20220530-071732.jpg)
I just post directly here via the attachments tab.
What're you using to make the patina your Ka-Bar ? I tried forcing a patina on a kukri I have using mustard, but that didn't work out too well.
Ended up sanding off the patina and just leaving it bare. Got it oiled so it won't rust, but I'm thinking of getting some of that cold blue stuff from Birchwood-Casey to darken the blade a bit.
Removed the factory coat with paint & epoxy stripper, and to force the patina I just soaked an old undershirt rag with distilled white vinegar and wrapped the blade with it, then left it in a baking dish with something under the pommel to keep the leather handle from getting wet.
Checked progress after 60 minutes, re-wrapped, turned it over and re-soaked for another 60, and then did one more time for about 30 or 45 minutes. Kept the rag dripping wet, used a bunch of vinegar up.
This obviously takes a while but I'm OK with going slow. You can go with hot vinegar to make it faster but it stinks and my wife would not tolerate that.
I've never seen a mustard patina that I thought looked good, they all end up kind of gloppy-looking to me.
From what I understand apple cider vinegar usually comes out a little darker than white but I haven't tried.
Yeah, the mustard patina thing I tried just looked awful. I kept it like that for a couple years and it wasn't until 2020 rolled around that I sanded off the crappy patina.
I might try the vinegar patina, but I think using that cold blue stuff might give me a more consistent finish. After my failure with the mustard patina, I'm a bit hesitant to try doing a vinegar patina.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 31, 2022, 06:09:44 PMYeah, the mustard patina thing I tried just looked awful. I kept it like that for a couple years and it wasn't until 2020 rolled around that I sanded off the crappy patina.
I might try the vinegar patina, but I think using that cold blue stuff might give me a more consistent finish. After my failure depth of the blade/hilt when the knife was dipped into it. I would heat the with the mustard patina, I'm a bit hesitant to try doing a vinegar patina.
I used vinegar to force a patina on a carbon steel Mora a couple years ago . I used a soda bottle with the top cut off and dipped the blade in the vinegar. I heated the vinegar in the microwave and kept the blade in the solution until it stopped bubbling. Then removed and reheated the vinegar.
Look up bleach etching. I used it on my ESEE 5. But use alot of vaseline to orotect blade edge and anyplace else you dont want it. Takes maybe 15 to 20 minutes or less.
This just arrived today.
Zero Tolerance 0452CF 4.1" flipper. My first 'expensive' folder. I'm very pleased. Especially since after I ordered it I kept watching youtube reviews, and one guy said that he had a couple 'cons' regarding the knife. One being that the clip sat the knife too high in your pocket and the other that the detent was too stiff and made the knife hard to open. I don't find either of these issues on my knife.
The standard clip sits the knife really low, lower than my Kershaw Blur. And this thing opens, locks, and for a framelock, it unlocks one handed smooth like butter. There are no wiggles or wobbles so its solid as a rock.
If you notice the pocket clip on the ZT is on the tail and not the pivot point, so deploying this requires a different technique than the Blur who's clip is on the pivot point. I was worried about this a little when considering it, because I prefer thumbstud deployment to flipper, but now that I have it I've already got that worked out.
Now just have to cut myself with it like I do [accidentally] playing around with any 'new' knife.
(https://i.imgur.com/EyzR4DR.jpg?2) 4.1" ZT vs 3.4" Blur
(https://i.imgur.com/E3XAhhN.jpg?2)
(https://i.imgur.com/JIkQYaP.jpg?1) ZT 0452CF carbon fiber/titanium
I literally don't even notice it in my pocket.
(https://i.imgur.com/51aIEOW.jpg?1) Kershaw Tanto Blur [~14 years old]
Additionally I had sent my Kershaw Blur into KIA USA for warranty work again and got it back repaired. Zero Tolerance and Kershaw are part of the KIA USA LTD umbrella so same warranties. The Blur is also a knife that has no wiggles or wobbles and I've been carrying it since 2006. But its actually #2 because I lost my first one shortly after I got it. I think its still in my hedges somewhere, I lost it doing yardwork. But that incident made me worried that I'd lose an expensive knife, but I haven't lost a pocket folder since 2007-8. My EDC folder retention and tracking skills being what they are today, I guess it was time. :awesome:
Mac i have had the Bure ( non serrated) since ummm 03 i think and just picked the same ZT up 3 weeks ago from a guy at work. One thing with 99% of frame locks and me, then i use the flipper in my right hand. I hold it tight so i don't flip it out of my hand and unintentionally hold it closed.
Anyone have an opinion on the Becker Tac Tool / BK3?
I didn't even know it existed until I looted a goofy-looking knife in State of Decay 2 a few weeks ago... a bunch of research later it looks like 1) something I would 100% laugh my ass off using and 2) a potentially useful addition to a suburban go bag bag or car bag.
I'd do the obvious mods... get rid of the epoxy coat, find micarta scales, sharpen the spine for a firesteel, etc.
Quote from: Lodewijk on September 03, 2022, 02:30:44 PMAnyone have an opinion on the Becker Tac Tool / BK3?
I´m still not convinced of those survival type knifes.
If you want to chop a tree or bash something in, take a hatchet, axe or whatever tool is appropriate, if you desperately want a knife to chop something get a machete. For the weight of it you can carry something like a Victorinox and a small hand hatchet or folding saw with the advantage of having a sharp blade that doesn´t get damaged, multiple other tools depending on the swiss army knife configuration and a tool that does a proper job.
If you want a knife for self defence I´d choose a different one and even then I think it´s worth a thought to not use a knife at all, unless you have experience with knife fighting you´re just as likely to injure yourself. I´ve done martial arts up to 1. Dan and I´d choose a stick over a knife if I´d have the choice. The use of those knifes is in my opinion in very limited specific areas only.
If you simply like big, goofy knifes that´s another thing. :smiley_blink:
Quote from: tirls on September 03, 2022, 03:49:10 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on September 03, 2022, 02:30:44 PMAnyone have an opinion on the Becker Tac Tool / BK3?
I´m still not convinced of those survival type knifes.
If you want to chop a tree or bash something in, take a hatchet, axe or whatever tool is appropriate, if you desperately want a knife to chop something get a machete. For the weight of it you can carry something like a Victorinox and a small hand hatchet or folding saw with the advantage of having a sharp blade that doesn´t get damaged, multiple other tools depending on the swiss army knife configuration and a tool that does a proper job.
If you want a knife for self defence I´d choose a different one and even then I think it´s worth a thought to not use a knife at all, unless you have experience with knife fighting you´re just as likely to injure yourself. I´ve done martial arts up to 1. Dan and I´d choose a stick over a knife if I´d have the choice. The use of those knifes is in my opinion in very limited specific areas only.
If you simply like big, goofy knifes that´s another thing. :smiley_blink:
Yeah its in a weird spot for sure, but it almost seems like that might make it worthwhile for where I live and what I'd use it for.
It's not a chopper, but I live on a treeless prairie where the biggest thing is scrub oak. There's nothing to chop. The grind is weird for splitting, but there's nothing to split. And firemaking is like a distant concern, because we're under a burn ban all the time. It's not a defensive knife, which is fine because any bag I'd stick it in will have a firearm.
It looks like a literal sharpened prybar that can be pressed into other uses. I almost see using that to break stuff, force things open, etc. I do that often enough.
I mean... this would be in addition to the primary use. Which is "being ridiculous."
The Terävä Skrama by Varusteleka looks a bit like that. I´m not sure how it is for where you live, but here that one is a lot cheaper.
I´d still be anxious to damage my cutting tool and probably take a small underarm length prybar or claw hammer with a small folding knife instead. I just can´t imagine using it for normal knife purposes, imagine needing to cut a piece of salami with it while your buddies are watching.
Quote from: tirls on September 03, 2022, 04:32:36 PMThe Terävä Skrama by Varusteleka looks a bit like that. I´m not sure how it is for where you live, but here that one is a lot cheaper.
I´d still be anxious to damage my cutting tool and probably take a small underarm length prybar or claw hammer with a small folding knife instead. I just can´t imagine using it for normal knife purposes, imagine needing to cut a piece of salami with it while your buddies are watching.
Skrama 200 is about $110 before shipping... cheapest I've seen the Becker is $120. Similar-ish?
Just to be transparent the (time to butcher some Finnish) Jakaaripuukko 140 is what I have in my go bag now. This would probably go in the car.
Quote from: Lodewijk on September 03, 2022, 04:40:22 PMSkrama 200 is about $110 before shipping... cheapest I've seen the Becker is $120. Similar-ish?
68 versus 180 (currently not available) here from what I´ve found. :eek1:
Quote from: tirls on September 03, 2022, 04:58:50 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on September 03, 2022, 04:40:22 PMSkrama 200 is about $110 before shipping... cheapest I've seen the Becker is $120. Similar-ish?
68 versus 180 (currently not available) here from what I´ve found. :eek1:
Becker with a sheath for $120:
https://www.smkw.com/kabar-becker-tactool
Skrama 200 with a sheath for $105:
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/terava-skrama-200-carbon-steel/63759
Skrama has a much nicer sheath if it's like the puukko but it's also probably simpler to make so I would expect the Becker to cost a little more in terms of the tool itself.
Not as big but, the CountyComm EOD Robotics Breacher Bar & CERT Bar. I have the larger one and the kydex sheath they sell for i for extra. Many moons ago they ran like $20 USD , now they run $37.95 USD
https://countycomm.com/products/eod-robotics-breacher-bar?_pos=1&_sid=4328ef8b9&_ss=r
Nowi did a paracord wrap handle on mine. I used it at work for prying doors and stuff, splitting door jambs for fun, beat it with a 26 oz waffle faced hammer, and sharpened the " blade edges" to chisel wood. The only thing wrong after ummm 8 or so years is my handle wrap sucks. I stuffed it into a crack and stood on it.
Quote from: Rednex on September 03, 2022, 06:57:20 PMNot as big but, the CountyComm EOD Robotics Breacher Bar & CERT Bar. I have the larger one and the kydex sheath they sell for i for extra. Many moons ago they ran like $20 USD , now they run $37.95 USD
https://countycomm.com/products/eod-robotics-breacher-bar?_pos=1&_sid=4328ef8b9&_ss=r
Nowi did a paracord wrap handle on mine. I used it at work for prying doors and stuff, splitting door jambs for fun, beat it with a 26 oz waffle faced hammer, and sharpened the " blade edges" to chisel wood. The only thing wrong after ummm 8 or so years is my handle wrap sucks. I stuffed it into a crack and stood on it.
That's what I was thinking about when the Becker BK3 was mentioned, but I couldn't remember the name.
Quote from: Rednex on September 03, 2022, 06:57:20 PMNot as big but, the CountyComm EOD Robotics Breacher Bar & CERT Bar. I have the larger one and the kydex sheath they sell for i for extra. Many moons ago they ran like $20 USD , now they run $37.95 USD
https://countycomm.com/products/eod-robotics-breacher-bar?_pos=1&_sid=4328ef8b9&_ss=r
That one seems more like a usable tool that has been sharpened because why not. I like that one.
Another thing it reminds me off is a kiridashi. They are dirt cheap and do come in blanks, but I haven´t seen a large one yet.
Quote from: Rednex on July 05, 2022, 05:38:03 PMMac i have had the Bure ( non serrated) since ummm 03 i think and just picked the same ZT up 3 weeks ago from a guy at work. One thing with 99% of frame locks and me, then i use the flipper in my right hand. I hold it tight so i don't flip it out of my hand and unintentionally hold it closed.
There is a 'sweet spot' of grip tightness IMO. I don't want to grip to loose of course, but also don't want to grip so tight I lose the small motor skills. So I grip just tight enough that if I bump my hand while deploying the knife it won't fall out of my hand.
I'm using the same one handed deploy technique on my Cryo II assisted open frame lock as my Blur which both are very fast one handed deploys. But the Cryo being a framelock with tight tolerances, it is really difficult to do a one handed re-holster [pocket]. The Blur being a liner lock its easy to just use your thumb to unlock the knife and flip it closed. But with the Cryo I have to flip it over 180 degrees so the frame lock is facing away from my thumb, my thumb resting on the spine of the knife, and then use my index fingernail to unlock it. That makes it easy. I can unlock it with my thumb but its really hard to unlock and even harder if you accidentally put any pressure on the blade when trying to unlock it.
The ZT flipper is also a framelock but that one is easy to unlock one handed using my thumb. I've looked at the difference between the ZT and the Cryo trying to figure out why one is harder to unlock than the other and the only thing I can figure is that the notch on the framelock that allows it to flex is thicker on the Cryo. And then the blade sort of pushes agains the lock pretty tight, which makes for extra pressure to push against when sliding the lock over.
Quote from: Lodewijk on September 03, 2022, 02:30:44 PMAnyone have an opinion on the Becker Tac Tool / BK3?
I didn't even know it existed until I looted a goofy-looking knife in State of Decay 2 a few weeks ago... a bunch of research later it looks like 1) something I would 100% laugh my ass off using and 2) a potentially useful addition to a suburban go bag bag or car bag.
I'd do the obvious mods... get rid of the epoxy coat, find micarta scales, sharpen the spine for a firesteel, etc.
I've had it in my 'to buy' list for a couple years now, but there's to many things in front of it to buy and I've already got 2 urban/suburban 2nd line carry knives. So it keeps getting pushed back.
It seems like a viable carry tool for a second line rig. But definitely for urban or suburban use. Not for woodcraft IMO.
I will eventually get it unless someone else comes up with a better design at a better price.
I think it was a discussion on here that prompted me, but either way, I just bought a Ganzo Firebird on Amazon. (The F759M model.) Looks like a copy of a Spyderco. I figured if it works decently enough, I'd rather break or lose it than my Spyderco.
It's light, and it feels cheaper, but for $16, I expected that. But so far (okay, less than 24 hours later), it seems decent enough. And it's freakishly sharp, right out of the box, so that's pretty nice. For light daily-ish use, it's probably a good choice. :)
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on September 08, 2022, 12:02:41 PMI think it was a discussion on here that prompted me, but either way, I just bought a Ganzo Firebird on Amazon. (The F759M model.) Looks like a copy of a Spyderco. I figured if it works decently enough, I'd rather break or lose it than my Spyderco.
It's light, and it feels cheaper, but for $16, I expected that. But so far (okay, less than 24 hours later), it seems decent enough. And it's freakishly sharp, right out of the box, so that's pretty nice. For light daily-ish use, it's probably a good choice. :)
I should have posted ( or maybe I did and don't remember )
https://www.amazon.com/Ganzo-G734-BK-Folding-outdoor-PTM/dp/B07C2BV5JX/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20DFT5L4A3FFU&keywords=G734&qid=1662689015&sprefix=g734%2Caps%2C254&sr=8-1
I carried spydercos for almost twenty years until they became too expensive for my forgetful self,
Bought that model and it's the most similar knife I've found. A little heavier , but good action Sharp and re sharpened well. Finally able to open a knife like I used to with the spyderco's. I got it with green handles. Thought I bought it on amazon but doesn't show in my orders. Weird
That does look like a really good copy. Mine has done a great job of opening a few boxes so far, and aside from the not-as-round thumb hole, it does look and feel pretty similar. The handle material is textured like the Endura, but the material has a slightly different feel--you can tell it's not the same plastic, but I haven't broken it yet! :awesome:
I will keep that one on the list if I lose/break this one.
Yea I remembered why I don't have a record of the knife. I had bought this knife
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001T7JWO8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8
&psc=1
Which had proved unsatisfactory. I had the Ganzo on my wish list and my daughter bought it for me on fathers day. And i then must have deleted it from my wish list.
That looks like a nice knife.
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on September 13, 2022, 08:16:45 AMThat looks like a nice knife.
The Kabar? The problem I had was very stiff opening. The liner lock had no gimping. Just straight metal. Overly stiff and hard to operate, But the worst part was the liner lock frequently moved past the blade back locking the knife open and requiring the use of screwdriver ( or key) to release it to close. Any EDC knife I carry must be one hand operation
Other than that it was a really cool knife
Quote from: flybynight on September 13, 2022, 05:37:40 PMQuote from: Mr. E. Monkey on September 13, 2022, 08:16:45 AMThat looks like a nice knife.
The Kabar? The problem I had was very stiff opening. The liner lock had no gimping. Just straight metal. Overly stiff and hard to operate, But the worst part was the liner lock frequently moved past the blade back locking the knife open and requiring the use of screwdriver ( or key) to release it to close. Any EDC knife I carry must be one hand operation
Other than that it was a really cool knife
I had a Kabar folder like that too.
Might've been the same model as well, now that I think about it. I picked mine up at a Big 5 in New Mexico and eventually ended up selling it at a yard sale (or I may have tossed it in with a trade I made. I forget.).
Quote from: flybynight on September 13, 2022, 05:37:40 PMQuote from: Mr. E. Monkey on September 13, 2022, 08:16:45 AMThat looks like a nice knife.
The Kabar? The problem I had was very stiff opening. The liner lock had no gimping. Just straight metal. Overly stiff and hard to operate, But the worst part was the liner lock frequently moved past the blade back locking the knife open and requiring the use of screwdriver ( or key) to release it to close. Any EDC knife I carry must be one hand operation
Other than that it was a really cool knife
Ah, so it
looks like a nice knife, but it doesn't
act like one.
That's good to know. :-\
I was just talking with my new neighbor and he showed me a hatchet which he'd found buried under some ivy in the back yard. There's a very deep (probably 1/8-inch into the metal) stamp on the head with what looks like a crown and 'Made in Sweden' underneath it. From some perusing, it might be an old Gransfors Bruks (they're the only ones who seemed to use a crown in their logos).
His dad took it home and cleaned it up a little and it's in surprisingly good condition for having been buried in the dirt for decades. It even still has the leather sheath on it (four rivets, plus a snap-closure strap), although one of the rivets has fallen out. The handle is fairly good, except that there's a bit of rot where moisture got trapped inside the opening at the head. I'd guess the head is about 1.5 - 2lbs.
I know the woman who lived there for over 50 years (this is the 2nd owner since she sold it) and I'm going to check with her to see if she knows anything about it. She and her husband hated yard work and contracted it out at least as far back as the 1980s. So this might be something that an employee from a yard service dropped, or possibly even pre-dates their ownership of the house (they bought it in the late 60s).
Sorry, no pictures to share right now, although I might see about taking some later.
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on September 14, 2022, 08:09:33 AMQuote from: flybynight on September 13, 2022, 05:37:40 PMQuote from: Mr. E. Monkey on September 13, 2022, 08:16:45 AMThat looks like a nice knife.
The Kabar? The problem I had was very stiff opening. The liner lock had no gimping. Just straight metal. Overly stiff and hard to operate, But the worst part was the liner lock frequently moved past the blade back locking the knife open and requiring the use of screwdriver ( or key) to release it to close. Any EDC knife I carry must be one hand operation
Other than that it was a really cool knife
Ah, so it looks like a nice knife, but it doesn't act like one.
That's good to know. :-\
The knife has amazing ergonomics . Came super sharp . Other than the problems I mentioned really liked the knife. I dunno, maybe I got the first knife of the day from the worker who came in hungover from a weekend bender. Sometime I will take it apart and see about reducing the spring of the liner lock
I didn't even think to try and fix the one I had.
Didn't really know much about working on knives at that point, so I may have done more harm than good.
I think if I buy anymore Kabars, they'll be the fixed blade variety. The crappy folder I had kind of soured me on Kabar's folding knives.
Went to a local thrift store that's been having a half off sale lately and picked up a Leatherman Mini Tool.
I'd never heard of this particular model, but for a buck fifty, I couldn't pass it up.
I did a quick Google search and apparently Leatherman made this model from 1986 to about 2004 or so. The blade was a bit damaged, but I managed to reprofile it to almost the original shape. It could a bit more filing to fully fix it, but I'm good with it the way it is.
Doubtful I'll be reselling it, so I don't mind it's not 100 percent like it was from the factory.
This is probably one of the neatest things I've bought at a thrift store in the past couple years. :smiley_clap:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 30, 2022, 04:10:06 PMWent to a local thrift store that's been having a half off sale lately and picked up a Leatherman Mini Tool.
I'd never heard of this particular model, but for a buck fifty, I couldn't pass it up.
I did a quick Google search and apparently Leatherman made this model from 1986 to about 2004 or so. The blade was a bit damaged, but I managed to reprofile it to almost the original shape. It could a bit more filing to fully fix it, but I'm good with it the way it is.
Doubtful I'll be reselling it, so I don't mind it's not 100 percent like it was from the factory.
This is probably one of the neatest things I've bought at a thrift store in the past couple years. :smiley_clap:
Which model?
There's one that my wife has been looking for ever since hers got lost during a move in the 90s. Apparently, it wasn't a common model and is impossible to find.
Here's a couple pics of the tool I got, NT2C.
It says "Leatherman Mini Tool" on the side and has these little fold out parts to make it like a full size set of pliers. Only other tools on it are a small knife blade and a file.
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ETA: The markings on the tool might be a little hard to see due to the size of the pictures. Sorry about that.
Yep, that's it Chimpski, but it turns out that I misremembered what she told me. It was originally a gift her mom gave to her step-dad who was a logger. He gave it to her because he was sure he'd lose it out in the woods somewhere. She still has it, it's not lost just still packed away in some boxes that we've got in storage.
Oh, and she says Leatherman will replace the blade under warranty if you send the whole thing to them.
Quote from: NT2C on October 02, 2022, 01:01:26 PMYep, that's it Chimpski, but it turns out that I misremembered what she told me. It was originally a gift her mom gave to her step-dad who was a logger. He gave it to her because he was sure he'd lose it out in the woods somewhere. She still has it, it's not lost just still packed away in some boxes that we've got in storage.
Oh, and she says Leatherman will replace the blade under warranty if you send the whole thing to them.
I tried that with a Leatherman Blast a few years ago and all they were going to do is replace the whole thing since they discontinued the Blast.
Leatherman discontinued this model in 2004, so all they'd likely do is replace it with whatever model they currently have in their catalog for this size.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 02, 2022, 01:37:32 PMQuote from: NT2C on October 02, 2022, 01:01:26 PMYep, that's it Chimpski, but it turns out that I misremembered what she told me. It was originally a gift her mom gave to her step-dad who was a logger. He gave it to her because he was sure he'd lose it out in the woods somewhere. She still has it, it's not lost just still packed away in some boxes that we've got in storage.
Oh, and she says Leatherman will replace the blade under warranty if you send the whole thing to them.
I tried that with a Leatherman Blast a few years ago and all they were going to do is replace the whole thing since they discontinued the Blast.
Leatherman discontinued this model in 2004, so all they'd likely do is replace it with whatever model they currently have in their catalog for this size.
Ah well, it was an idea. You might still be able to reshape the blade and fix it yourself.
Quote from: NT2C on October 02, 2022, 02:30:03 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 02, 2022, 01:37:32 PMQuote from: NT2C on October 02, 2022, 01:01:26 PMYep, that's it Chimpski, but it turns out that I misremembered what she told me. It was originally a gift her mom gave to her step-dad who was a logger. He gave it to her because he was sure he'd lose it out in the woods somewhere. She still has it, it's not lost just still packed away in some boxes that we've got in storage.
Oh, and she says Leatherman will replace the blade under warranty if you send the whole thing to them.
I tried that with a Leatherman Blast a few years ago and all they were going to do is replace the whole thing since they discontinued the Blast.
Leatherman discontinued this model in 2004, so all they'd likely do is replace it with whatever model they currently have in their catalog for this size.
Ah well, it was an idea. You might still be able to reshape the blade and fix it yourself.
That's what I've been trying to do and I think I've got it pretty close to where it was from the factory.
Now it's just a matter of cleaning out the rest of the tool and putting a little dab of oil where things move. Shouldn't take me too long to clean it.
Biggest pain in the butt will be being able to get all the crud out of the nooks. Makes me wish I had one of those sonic cleaners since that'd make this so much easier.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 02, 2022, 02:57:56 PMQuote from: NT2C on October 02, 2022, 02:30:03 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 02, 2022, 01:37:32 PMQuote from: NT2C on October 02, 2022, 01:01:26 PMYep, that's it Chimpski, but it turns out that I misremembered what she told me. It was originally a gift her mom gave to her step-dad who was a logger. He gave it to her because he was sure he'd lose it out in the woods somewhere. She still has it, it's not lost just still packed away in some boxes that we've got in storage.
Oh, and she says Leatherman will replace the blade under warranty if you send the whole thing to them.
I tried that with a Leatherman Blast a few years ago and all they were going to do is replace the whole thing since they discontinued the Blast.
Leatherman discontinued this model in 2004, so all they'd likely do is replace it with whatever model they currently have in their catalog for this size.
Ah well, it was an idea. You might still be able to reshape the blade and fix it yourself.
That's what I've been trying to do and I think I've got it pretty close to where it was from the factory.
Now it's just a matter of cleaning out the rest of the tool and putting a little dab of oil where things move. Shouldn't take me too long to clean it.
Biggest pain in the butt will be being able to get all the crud out of the nooks. Makes me wish I had one of those sonic cleaners since that'd make this so much easier.
I have two heated ultrasonic cleaners and they are awesome for cleaning stuff like that. They work fantastic with my firearms but you need to be cautious what cleaning solution you use because some will damage aluminum. I use a solution of Simple Green for Aircraft that's safe for aluminum and it's just what the doc ordered for cleaning all the lake crud out of my AR when I finally retrieve it after one of my boating accidents that happen anytime the kids over at F Troop start throwing their weight around.
That Leatherman mini tool doesn't have locking blades, is that correct? So how sturdy is it when the blades are open, is there any kind of spring or anything that holds them open?
I have an Ohio Multi-tool that I think I got in as a gift and there are no springs or locks or anything so none of the blades really stay open.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on October 04, 2022, 12:12:03 PMThat Leatherman mini tool doesn't have locking blades, is that correct? So how sturdy is it when the blades are open, is there any kind of spring or anything that holds them open?
I have an Ohio Multi-tool that I think I got in as a gift and there are no springs or locks or anything so none of the blades really stay open.
Yeah, there's no spring or lock to hold the blade open. It's pretty much just held open by friction and the bolt that keeps everything in place in the handle.
It's easy to open, but at the same time it's also kind of hard to close the blade. It's about like my Leatherman Rebar tool.
Quote from: NT2C on September 28, 2022, 06:57:47 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 28, 2022, 05:47:27 PMOnly things I keep in my pockets are my Spyderco knife and my wallet. Everything else goes on my belt.
Which is made a lot more stable thanks to those suspenders I got recently. :smiley_clap:
If I'm out of the house I'm usually armed with at least a 9mm (.380 in the rare instances of having to go to a gun unfriendly place, not one where firearms are legally prohibited) and two spare mags for it, three sets of keys (Jeep/pickup/house), at least two flashlights (not counting the rechargeables on each keyring), a two week supply of my important meds (takes the most space), at least three knives (counting the tiny Kershaw auto on my suspenders that's legal even in courthouses), my big, overstuffed wallet and chain, $5 in quarters, $40 in bills, my ham radio IDs on a lanyard.
Interesting on the tiny Kershaw and the courthouse.
They wanted to take my RESQME away last time I was at the courthouse. Its on my keychain. Funny thing was this was a 'callback' where I got in the same courthouse with it a few weeks earlier. Guess it depends on the security person at the time in my AO.
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I was laughing at chimps original post about too much stuff and thinking 'god he carries a lot of stuff', but then realized that I carry just as much on me and more if I include my EDC bag that goes with me everywhere. And so didn't really say anything figuring he probably needed everything just like I do.
For some dumb reason I have THREE knives on my person at any given moment; a SAK [w/ 2 blades], a Tactical folder, and my Leatherman multi-tool [w/ two blades]. Then I have a backup tactical folder, A fixed blade, and a folding box/matte knife [Husky brand] in my EDC bag. [There's another box cutter in the EDC bag not counted and two more folders in my car]
Each knife gets used for specific tasks. Like I wouldn't open a box/envelope with my tactical folder or I wouldn't cut a seatbelt with my SAK. And I don't really use the knives on the Supertool 300 as they are too much of a pain to open compared to the SAK/folder. Supertool is for the tools, screwdriver, pliers, wirecutters etc. So if I could consolidate them into one knife I would, but I haven't figured out quite how to do that.
QuoteSo if I could consolidate them into one knife I would, but I haven't figured out quite how to do that.
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This? :smiley_blink:
Quote from: tirls on October 04, 2022, 01:46:51 PMQuoteSo if I could consolidate them into one knife I would, but I haven't figured out quite how to do that.
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This? :smiley_blink:
LOL, I actually have that knife too. But it's so thick that It's impractical to carry at all. It's just a collectors item that sits in a silver box with my Dad's old Kabar 1100 which I would carry that instead of the SAK but wouldn't want to loose it, to much sentimental value. [And there's no GTFOM blade on either of those.]
This looks exactly like the 1100 but its not My/My Dad's knife.
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Having grown up in the '90s, I still kind of want that Swiss Army knife Macaulay Culkin had in "Home Alone 2".
Only problem is I never figured out what model was shown in the movie.
ETA: After a bit of Googling, it's apparently either a Wenger Alpen or Matterhorn Plus Swiss Army knife used in the film.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 04, 2022, 02:08:48 PMHaving grown up in the '90s, I still kind of want that Swiss Army knife Macaulay Culkin had in "Home Alone 2".
Only problem is I never figured out what model was shown in the movie.
ETA: After a bit of Googling, it's apparently either a Wenger Alpen or Matterhorn Plus Swiss Army knife used in the film.
I had a 'camping knife' gifted to me for Christmas one year when I was a kid that had a bunch of blades, can opener, etc, etc, AND a Fork and Spoon that folded on the sides. Took it camping every time and don't think I ever used the eating utensils.
I think this is it only because I seem to remember the case had that weird clip on it. Don't know what happened to that knife.
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I got some throwing knives one year for Christmas when I was a kid.
I had seen "Desperado" with Antonio Banderas and Danny Trejo and I was fascinated by Danny Trejo's character with the throwing knives.
I think I was like 13 or 14 years old and my mom went to a knife shop in a local mall and picked up a set of them for me.
I actually still have them. They're still in pretty good shape since I ended up never trying to throw them and kept them in a box all these years.
Do you guys remember the episode of Gilligan's Island where there was a [I want to say] Russian spy that looked just like Gilligan and he had an all purpose spy knife that had a two way radio in the spoon.
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It also had a death ray.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 04, 2022, 03:12:58 PMI got some throwing knives one year for Christmas when I was a kid.
I had seen "Desperado" with Antonio Banderas and Danny Trejo and I was fascinated by Danny Trejo's character with the throwing knives.
I think I was like 13 or 14 years old and my mom went to a knife shop in a local mall and picked up a set of them for me.
I actually still have them. They're still in pretty good shape since I ended up never trying to throw them and kept them in a box all these years.
Starting with Boy Scouts and Day Camp, as kids we used to play this game called 'SPLIT', which involved throwing knives and sticking them in the ground near your opponents feet. If the blade didn't stick in the ground blade first it didn't count. We didn't use throwing knives just pocket/pen knives. And got really good at those.
Then in middle/high school my uncle, who was a photographer, did a photoshoot for Kabar and got to keep all the knives. He gave me and my Dad a bunch of them. I got 3 hunting fixed blades at 4, 5, and 6" which I would throw daily in my bedroom and stick them into this carpet covered platform in my closet. Got really good at throwing those.
They looked like this.
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Then I got some crappy throwing knives at a gunshow years and years later, set of 6, but they don't have enough weight to do more than stick in a tree about 1/4 inch. Not a Danny Trejo killer set if you know what I mean. But they are pretty beat up from use, can't say I got 'good enough' with those. I'm still better at throwing regular fixed blades that aren't meant for throwing. IDK.
Those are some neat Kabars, Mac.
Only Kabar I've ever owned was a crappy folding knife (I think it was called the Agama ?).
NT2C sent me a Kabar spork and knife combo awhile back and that's gotten a little use. Mostly used for the occasional pudding cup or fruit cup and not anything more gourmet than that, though.
As for the throwing knives, I've got the aforementioned Christmas ones my mom got me (a trio of Gil Hibben throwers. Not sure of the model. I lost the box years ago.) and a set of Kershaw Ion throwing knives.
The Kershaw ones kind of remind me of the kunais that Jason Statham uses in the Expendables movies (I may be going bald like Statham, but I'm definitely not as good with the knives like he is in the movies.)
Quote from: MacWa77ace on October 04, 2022, 01:31:49 PMInteresting on the tiny Kershaw and the courthouse.
They wanted to take my RESQME away last time I was at the courthouse. Its on my keychain. Funny thing was this was a 'callback' where I got in the same courthouse with it a few weeks earlier. Guess it depends on the security person at the time in my AO.
It's a Kershaw Ken Onion Chive with a 1.9" blade. Even legal in schools.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on October 04, 2022, 04:24:48 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 04, 2022, 03:12:58 PMI got some throwing knives one year for Christmas when I was a kid.
I had seen "Desperado" with Antonio Banderas and Danny Trejo and I was fascinated by Danny Trejo's character with the throwing knives.
I think I was like 13 or 14 years old and my mom went to a knife shop in a local mall and picked up a set of them for me.
I actually still have them. They're still in pretty good shape since I ended up never trying to throw them and kept them in a box all these years.
Starting with Boy Scouts and Day Camp, as kids we used to play this game called 'SPLIT', which involved throwing knives and sticking them in the ground near your opponents feet. If the blade didn't stick in the ground blade first it didn't count. We didn't use throwing knives just pocket/pen knives. And got really good at those.
Then in middle/high school my uncle, who was a photographer, did a photoshoot for Kabar and got to keep all the knives. He gave me and my Dad a bunch of them. I got 3 hunting fixed blades at 4, 5, and 6" which I would throw daily in my bedroom and stick them into this carpet covered platform in my closet. Got really good at throwing those.
They looked like this.
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Then I got some crappy throwing knives at a gunshow years and years later, set of 6, but they don't have enough weight to do more than stick in a tree about 1/4 inch. Not a Danny Trejo killer set if you know what I mean. But they are pretty beat up from use, can't say I got 'good enough' with those. I'm still better at throwing regular fixed blades that aren't meant for throwing. IDK.
I carried one of those Kabars aboard ship for about a year and then one day the butt cap came off and went over the side. I sent it back to Kabar and never saw it again or heard from them. It was a nice knife but hard to get a good edge on it because of the fat bevel. You could get it sharp enough to cut paper or cloth but it sucked on cutting line or rope (which was the reason we carried knives, in case we got tangled in a line or rope). It got replaced with a Kershaw folder while I waited for the ship's store to get in the Buck fixed blade I wanted but I got taken off active duty before that happened. (Technically, anyone in a deck division was required to have a sharp, fixed blade knife on them, readily accessible with just one hand in case of entanglement, but the deck officers weren't too strict on that if you could produce a knife when they asked you for one.)
Quote from: tirls on October 04, 2022, 01:46:51 PMQuoteSo if I could consolidate them into one knife I would, but I haven't figured out quite how to do that.
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This? :smiley_blink:
The problem then becomes needing two of the tools at the same time, like the pliers to hold the nut and a screwdriver to tighten the screw that goes into it.
Quote from: NT2C on October 04, 2022, 06:07:39 PMQuote from: tirls on October 04, 2022, 01:46:51 PMQuoteSo if I could consolidate them into one knife I would, but I haven't figured out quite how to do that.
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This? :smiley_blink:
The problem then becomes needing two of the tools at the same time, like the pliers to hold the nut and a screwdriver to tighten the screw that goes into it.
If they made that with a knife blade that opened automatically when you pressed the swiss cross.... I'd buy it in a heartbeat :shades:
I still want one of those Buck 110 Folding Hunter automatics, but I also don't want to pay almost 200 bucks for one.
So it looks like I'll have to be content with the standard 110 Folding Hunter I have.
Quote from: NT2C on October 04, 2022, 06:04:58 PMI carried one of those Kabars aboard ship for about a year and then one day the butt cap came off and went over the side. I sent it back to Kabar and never saw it again or heard from them. It was a nice knife but hard to get a good edge on it because of the fat bevel. You could get it sharp enough to cut paper or cloth but it sucked on cutting line or rope (which was the reason we carried knives, in case we got tangled in a line or rope). It got replaced with a Kershaw folder while I waited for the ship's store to get in the Buck fixed blade I wanted but I got taken off active duty before that happened. (Technically, anyone in a deck division was required to have a sharp, fixed blade knife on them, readily accessible with just one hand in case of entanglement, but the deck officers weren't too strict on that if you could produce a knife when they asked you for one.)
I agree, it was a weird 'curve' on a kinda 'fat' blade on the larger model. IIRC I could only get the very edge sharp and it was awkward with a wetstone to get that edge. That shape/bevel might have been better for skinning/cleaning but I never used them for that.
My Dad, was in the Navy and had two knives of note he carried, a Kabar survival fixed blade [maybe 6-8" blade] and an unknown brand switch blade with a bright orange handle. Kind of looked like a fat pocket knife, but it was specific to pilots and had a hook cutter on it. IIRC he said it was to cut free from parachute cords in an emergency. [He was a carrier pilot]
Both of those knives were stolen when I/We had our fishing tackle boxes ripped off many years ago.
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For ropes and strap cutting I prefer a serrated blade. Very fast.
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We had those "Jet Pilot Survival Knives" back when I was a cadet in the CAP. IIRC, the ones we had were made by Camillus.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on October 05, 2022, 08:32:00 AMFor ropes and strap cutting I prefer a serrated blade. Very fast.
I agree, and it's what I'd be carrying if I was still a deck ape in today's Navy, and why in each of my vehicles there are a pair of stainless Moras, one serrated, one not. But serrated blades weren't a thing yet in the early 70's, so I didn't have that option.
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We had those "Jet Pilot Survival Knives" back when I was a cadet in the CAP. IIRC, the ones we had were made by Camillus.
I've got one similar to that except mine is a commercial model made by Ontario and not Camillus.
Not sure if there's much of a difference between the military issued ones and the commercial ones, though.
Ain't this firearms chat? Didn't Chimp make a knife chat?
But carry on.
Quote from: Rednex on October 05, 2022, 05:56:19 PMAin't this firearms chat? Didn't Chimp make a knife chat?
But carry on.
Huh? This
is Knife Chat!
https://youtu.be/pqmqC-702Yg
Quote from: NT2C on October 05, 2022, 06:26:09 PMQuote from: Rednex on October 05, 2022, 05:56:19 PMAin't this firearms chat? Didn't Chimp make a knife chat?
But carry on.
Huh? This is Knife Chat!
Quote from: NT2C on October 05, 2022, 06:26:09 PMQuote from: Rednex on October 05, 2022, 05:56:19 PMAin't this firearms chat? Didn't Chimp make a knife chat?
But carry on.
Huh? This is Knife Chat!
Ok something weird is going on here. My computer said firearms chat the atf " identifying more words then I can remember" while I read the last couple of post. And I triple looked at my screen thinking mods gone wild or something? Now on my tablet it clearly states knife chat.
My computer did something else I didn't tell it to do a few days ago.Must be a glitch in the matrix , my apologies.
Quote from: Rednex on October 05, 2022, 06:41:44 PMQuote from: NT2C on October 05, 2022, 06:26:09 PMQuote from: Rednex on October 05, 2022, 05:56:19 PMAin't this firearms chat? Didn't Chimp make a knife chat?
But carry on.
Huh? This is Knife Chat!
Quote from: NT2C on October 05, 2022, 06:26:09 PMQuote from: Rednex on October 05, 2022, 05:56:19 PMAin't this firearms chat? Didn't Chimp make a knife chat?
But carry on.
Huh? This is Knife Chat!
Ok something weird is going on here. My computer said firearms chat the atf " identifying more words then I can remember" while I read the last couple of post. And I triple looked at my screen thinking mods gone wild or something? Now on my tablet it clearly states knife chat.
My computer did something else I didn't tell it to do a few days ago.Must be a touch in the matrix , my apologies.
The knife chat just got from Firearms Chat got moved, Rednex. No computer gremlins involved this time. :)
I actually meant to do that earlier, but I guess NT2C beat me to it.
Anyone got experience with knives made by a company called QSP ?
I got the Smoky Mountain Knife Works Christmas catalog recently and they've got a couple of QSP's blade in it. They look interesting and aren't too high in price.
But I have no experience with this company. They seem to be pretty well liked on YouTube, though.
Nope. But...
http://www.qspknife.com/about.asp
Thanks, Mac.
I've been watching a bunch of reviews of QSP's blades on YouTube and the consensus is they're pretty good.
Once I'm at a more comfortable financial level (probably next year), I might pick up one or two of QSP's blades. I've already got the models picked out that I want, now to just save up the money for them. :smiley_clap:
I'm not sure if this is common knowledge or if not many people know about this, but apparently the Leatherman Wave has a hidden lanyard loop in the handle by the saw blade.
I watched one of those YouTube shorts yesterday and in it the guy was talking about how the Leatherman Wave has a hidden lanyard loop and how to access it.
Basically all you do is use either the pocket clip Leatherman sells as an accessory for the Wave or something similar and push up on the loop. It'll pop out and you can then attach a lanyard to it.
I've had my Waves (ended up buying a second one after my brother Dave broke the scissors on my first one.) since 2014 and I didn't know they had a lanyard loop until last night.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on November 16, 2022, 03:29:12 PMI'm not sure if this is common knowledge or if not many people know about this, but apparently the Leatherman Wave has a hidden lanyard loop in the handle by the saw blade.
I watched one of those YouTube shorts yesterday and in it the guy was talking about how the Leatherman Wave has a hidden lanyard loop and how to access it.
Basically all you do is use either the pocket clip Leatherman sells as an accessory for the Wave or something similar and push up on the loop. It'll pop out and you can then attach a lanyard to it.
I've had my Waves (ended up buying a second one after my brother Dave broke the scissors on my first one.) since 2014 and I didn't know they had a lanyard loop until last night.
Leatherman would probably replace the scissors if you sent it in.
Quote from: NT2C on November 16, 2022, 05:57:29 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on November 16, 2022, 03:29:12 PMI'm not sure if this is common knowledge or if not many people know about this, but apparently the Leatherman Wave has a hidden lanyard loop in the handle by the saw blade.
I watched one of those YouTube shorts yesterday and in it the guy was talking about how the Leatherman Wave has a hidden lanyard loop and how to access it.
Basically all you do is use either the pocket clip Leatherman sells as an accessory for the Wave or something similar and push up on the loop. It'll pop out and you can then attach a lanyard to it.
I've had my Waves (ended up buying a second one after my brother Dave broke the scissors on my first one.) since 2014 and I didn't know they had a lanyard loop until last night.
Leatherman would probably replace the scissors if you sent it in.
I actually replaced them with the set that was on my Blast. :smiley_clap:
Now I'm looking for a busted Wave or Blast so I can replace the scissors on my Blast since Leatherman discontinued it and would replace it with a Rebar (which I also have and am not really a fan of).
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on November 16, 2022, 03:29:12 PMI'm not sure if this is common knowledge or if not many people know about this, but apparently the Leatherman Wave has a hidden lanyard loop in the handle by the saw blade.
I watched one of those YouTube shorts yesterday and in it the guy was talking about how the Leatherman Wave has a hidden lanyard loop and how to access it.
Basically all you do is use either the pocket clip Leatherman sells as an accessory for the Wave or something similar and push up on the loop. It'll pop out and you can then attach a lanyard to it.
I've had my Waves (ended up buying a second one after my brother Dave broke the scissors on my first one.) since 2014 and I didn't know they had a lanyard loop until last night.
You don't play with
yourself your tool enough. I found mine shortly after I got it. But yeah its hard to see.
Supertool 300
(https://i.imgur.com/9lXR3Lh.png)
If anyone is interested, after using it a bit more, I can say that I am very happy with that Ganzo Firebird. It's been my EDC almost exclusively since I bought it, and while I still do like a partially serrated blade for cutting cordage and such, this little knife has impressed me.
It's not quite as razor-sharp as it was when I got it, but it still glides through envelopes and packing tape almost like there's nothing there. Everything is still good and tight. It still doesn't feel like a high-quality knife, but its performance is way above its cost.
I got a Civivi Praxis for Christmas and it's the first high-ish end knife I've ever owned.
It's also the first knife I've ever bought that's come with a zippered case.
Everything else I've bought over the years has just come in either a box or one of those annoyingly hard to open blister packs.
Not sure where 9cr18mov steel sits on the blade steel hierarchy, but apparently the way Civivi does theirs is really well reviewed in the knife community.
Which exact model did you get?
Coincidentally my wife just complained that she wishes her EDC folder was 'smaller' [than 3.375"] and so I have a Praxis Mini 3" flipper in my cart. It says the blade is made of D2 steel. I don't know what that is at all, but I am running into 'XCrXXMov' where X is 4 or 8 and XX is 14 or 18 in my searches.
I see the Praxis has a model with 110 fold Damascus blade also. Those seem to be twice the price.
But I think I'm going to get a Fringe or Misdirect by Kershaw as they are both 'assisted open'. She'll lose the glass breaker and seatbelt cutter that is on her current EDCF.
My brother-in-law sent me a Leatherman Wingman for Christmas via USPS, which I didn't know was coming, and it was supposed to deliver before Christmas. I just got it yesterday. It's really nice.
I like how the main knife blade can be opened without opening the pliers part, which is how my Supertool 300 works.
I got the full sized Praxis, Mac.
I was going to get the mini Praxis as well, but I didn't have enough money on my prepaid card to do so. So I just got the larger one with the 9cr18mov steel.
And I've been carrying a Leatherman Wingman for a couple years now and really like it as well.
My previous EDC was a Leatherman Wave, but I started carrying the Wingman instead since it's a little lighter and I don't use most of the tools on the Wave regularly anyway.
The Leatherman Squirt is my favorite mini multitool.
I still want to pick one of those up.
Smallest Leatherman I own right now is one of their discontinued Mini Tools from 1995 and I picked that up from a thrift store in my town for $1.50. The store had it marked at 3 bucks but I got it for a buck fifty thanks to a half off sale they had.
Anyone own a Gerber 06 Fast knife ?
I got to handle one the other day at Walmart and while I normally like Gerber's stuff, this one just felt cheap to me. The blade had a lot of wiggle when locked up and the G10 handle just felt off to me.
For 66 bucks, I'd figure it would have a higher build quality, but it seriously felt like a gas station assisted opening knife to me.
I know the 06 Fast is the budget model of the 06 Automatic and now I'm wondering if the 06 Auto feels better in the hand or if it's the same. Which would be a shame since the 06 Auto is like a 150 to 200 dollar plus knife. I couldn't imagine paying hundreds of dollars for a knife and having it feel like it was cheaply made.
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on November 17, 2022, 09:07:33 AMIf anyone is interested, after using it a bit more, I can say that I am very happy with that Ganzo Firebird. It's been my EDC almost exclusively since I bought it, and while I still do like a partially serrated blade for cutting cordage and such, this little knife has impressed me.
It's not quite as razor-sharp as it was when I got it, but it still glides through envelopes and packing tape almost like there's nothing there. Everything is still good and tight. It still doesn't feel like a high-quality knife, but its performance is way above its cost.
Bit of a necro reply, but
thank you Mr. Monkey. I got my Ganzo Firebird a few years ago during one of AliExpress's many, many sales (it's the one with the axis lock, which I don't think they make anymore) and have always thought: am I missing something here? Because this seems like a ridiculously well-made knife for about $20. Certainly better than anything in that price range from Gerber or Ozark Trails.
I'll be the first to admit I am no knife connoisseur. But my Ganzo and Kizer are my two best knives and I am very happy with them.
Quote from: majorhavoc on January 16, 2023, 06:48:18 PMQuote from: Mr. E. Monkey on November 17, 2022, 09:07:33 AMIf anyone is interested, after using it a bit more, I can say that I am very happy with that Ganzo Firebird. It's been my EDC almost exclusively since I bought it, and while I still do like a partially serrated blade for cutting cordage and such, this little knife has impressed me.
It's not quite as razor-sharp as it was when I got it, but it still glides through envelopes and packing tape almost like there's nothing there. Everything is still good and tight. It still doesn't feel like a high-quality knife, but its performance is way above its cost.
Bit of a necro reply, but thank you Mr. Monkey. I got my Ganzo Firebird a few years ago during one of AliExpress's many, many sales (it's the one with the axis lock, which I don't think they make anymore) and have always thought: am I missing something here? Because this seems like a ridiculously well-made knife for about $20. Certainly better than anything in that price range from Gerber or Ozark Trails.
I'll be the first to admit I am no knife connoisseur. But my Ganzo and Kizer are my two best knives and I am very happy with them.
I've got one of those too and I'm in complete agreement. It arrived razor sharp and has kept an edge really well. Definitely punches waaaay above it's price level!
I've heard Ganzo makes some pretty good budget friendly blades.
I used to see their stuff on Amazon all the time, but I haven't shopped on that site in a long time.
I picked up a Kershaw Seguin Gray assisted opener in an eBay auction for $18 the other day. It's a nice, solid knife, easy opening, razor sharp out of the package. About the only thing I dislike is how easily that gray finish on the scales gets marked up. It already looks like a crackle finish and I've barely played with it. I think it's going to look like my ten-year-old, pocket carried daily, Gerber Paraframe by the end of the week.
To tell the truth, I just pulled the Gerber out of the pocket on my sweatpants it lives in (along with a mag or two for my LCP II, a nail clipper, two flashlights, and my LCK+ clipped to the pocket) and the Gerber looks better than the Kershaw.
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I've got a CRKT Drifter that has a similar problem, NT2C.
It's an all stainless finish and it gets dinged up really quickly even just by handling it.
I also need to get a better storage thing for my knives. Right now I've got them in a little plastic basket thing and I want one of those soft cases like Smoky Mountain Knife Works sells to put them in. I just need something that can hold all my folding knives.
Quote from: majorhavoc on January 16, 2023, 06:48:18 PMQuote from: Mr. E. Monkey on November 17, 2022, 09:07:33 AMIf anyone is interested, after using it a bit more, I can say that I am very happy with that Ganzo Firebird. It's been my EDC almost exclusively since I bought it, and while I still do like a partially serrated blade for cutting cordage and such, this little knife has impressed me.
It's not quite as razor-sharp as it was when I got it, but it still glides through envelopes and packing tape almost like there's nothing there. Everything is still good and tight. It still doesn't feel like a high-quality knife, but its performance is way above its cost.
Bit of a necro reply, but thank you Mr. Monkey. I got my Ganzo Firebird a few years ago during one of AliExpress's many, many sales (it's the one with the axis lock, which I don't think they make anymore) and have always thought: am I missing something here? Because this seems like a ridiculously well-made knife for about $20. Certainly better than anything in that price range from Gerber or Ozark Trails.
I'll be the first to admit I am no knife connoisseur. But my Ganzo and Kizer are my two best knives and I am very happy with them.
I made a thread about that knife several years ago. If its the same one its a knockoff of a Chris Reeves Sebenza. I originally got mine on Amazon for $17. They go by several different name brands. But are in the 20s now. Best knife I own. Including my Spyderco's and benchmade.
https://bladereviews.com/chris-reeve-knives-sebenza-25-review/
Sanrenmu Land 911 Pocket Knife Folding Knife 12C27 Blade G10 Handle Liner Lock Pocket EDC Knife (Army Green,G10) https://a.co/d/4KNhAaf
Here's my original thread. Not sure it predates yours tho majorhavoc. Not that it f ing matters. Lol. But some more info:
https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?topic=367.0
Its literally the best folder I've ever owned. I would not soend a dime more in a Benchmade, Syoerco, Civivi etc. I own those and this thing will be with me till i die or it breaks. Which is unlikely. The breaking part not the dying part ;)
Apparently Swiss Tech has a new line of knives available at Walmart now.
There's three folders, two multi tools (one is a Leatherman Wave clone) and one fixed blade in this new line up.
I'm interested in two of the folders (the Wurdig and Gerundet), the fixed blade (called the Stahlern) and the Wave clone (called the Praktisch) and hopefully my local Walmart will have them. If I can, I'll probably pick up a couple of them and report back here if I do.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 18, 2023, 08:57:55 PMApparently Swiss Tech has a new line of knives available at Walmart now.
There's three folders, two multi tools (one is a Leatherman Wave clone) and one fixed blade in this new line up.
I'm interested in two of the folders (the Wurdig and Gerundet), the fixed blade (called the Stahlern) and the Wave clone (called the Praktisch) and hopefully my local Walmart will have them. If I can, I'll probably pick up a couple of them and report back here if I do.
Have you considered used on ebay? I think I'd take a beat up used Wave over a clone. Or a used fixed blade of known brand and steel type/quality.
I bought three used Leatherman (forget the model. But a nicer one.) For $20 each.
Quote from: Moab on January 18, 2023, 11:43:18 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 18, 2023, 08:57:55 PMApparently Swiss Tech has a new line of knives available at Walmart now.
There's three folders, two multi tools (one is a Leatherman Wave clone) and one fixed blade in this new line up.
I'm interested in two of the folders (the Wurdig and Gerundet), the fixed blade (called the Stahlern) and the Wave clone (called the Praktisch) and hopefully my local Walmart will have them. If I can, I'll probably pick up a couple of them and report back here if I do.
Have you considered used on ebay? I think I'd take a beat up used Wave over a clone. Or a used fixed blade of known brand and steel type/quality.
Not a big fan of Ebay, but I have been looking at pawn shops and local sales groups on Facebook for a used or beat up Leatherman Blast so I can repair the one I've got.
Leatherman discontinued the Blast back in like 2013 and replaced it with the Rebar, which is a decent tool itself, but I'm not a fan of it.
The Swiss Tech stuff is supposed to be AUS-8 steel (which isn't the greatest, but it's easy to resharpen if it loses its edge.) and the reviews on the current line up is pretty good.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 18, 2023, 11:47:59 PMAUS-8 steel (which isn't the greatest, but it's easy to resharpen if it loses its edge.)
Not sure what you're comparing to but AUS-8 is actually a rather good steel.
https://bladeops.com/blog/review-of-aus-8-stainless-steel
https://www.offgridknives.com/japanese-aus-8-steel-for-knives/
Quote from: NT2C on January 19, 2023, 12:36:47 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 18, 2023, 11:47:59 PMAUS-8 steel (which isn't the greatest, but it's easy to resharpen if it loses its edge.)
Not sure what you're comparing to but AUS-8 is actually a rather good steel.
https://bladeops.com/blog/review-of-aus-8-stainless-steel
https://www.offgridknives.com/japanese-aus-8-steel-for-knives/
I agree. I have not heard bad things about AUS8. And I also like a softer steel that is easier to sharpen.
Quote from: NT2C on January 19, 2023, 12:36:47 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 18, 2023, 11:47:59 PMAUS-8 steel (which isn't the greatest, but it's easy to resharpen if it loses its edge.)
Not sure what you're comparing to but AUS-8 is actually a rather good steel.
https://bladeops.com/blog/review-of-aus-8-stainless-steel
https://www.offgridknives.com/japanese-aus-8-steel-for-knives/
I was mostly going by what some knife reviewers on YouTube were saying about it, but these are also the same guys who think anything less than the newest wonder steels is bad.
Personally, I like AUS-8 steel. I've got several knives with blades made of it.
Well, my quest for those Swiss Tech knives was a bust at the Odessa Walmart. Only thing Swiss Tech they had was a couple flashlights.
Looks like I'll have to order them from Walmart's website instead of getting them in store.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 19, 2023, 02:57:33 PMWell, my quest for those Swiss Tech knives was a bust at the Odessa Walmart. Only thing Swiss Tech they had was a couple flashlights.
Looks like I'll have to order them from Walmart's website instead of getting them in store.
Write us a review when u get them.
Quote from: Moab on January 19, 2023, 04:29:12 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 19, 2023, 02:57:33 PMWell, my quest for those Swiss Tech knives was a bust at the Odessa Walmart. Only thing Swiss Tech they had was a couple flashlights.
Looks like I'll have to order them from Walmart's website instead of getting them in store.
Write us a review when u get them.
Roger that, Moab.
For EDC I always have my gerber truss. Better (IMO) and cheaper my various leathermens I've owned.
For my load out Ive settled on a Gerber Strongarm. Bit more research to go then pulling the trigger.
I'm considering picking up one of those Gerber NXT Suspension multitools from Walmart. They're like 35 bucks and the reviews are pretty good.
Most common complaint is the handles not feeling as comfortable in the hand as the ones on the older Suspension did, but folks complain about some Leatherman models not being comfortable either.
And my EDC usually consists of a Spyderco Tenacious and a Leatherman Wingman. I used to carry a Wave, but once I picked up the Wingman stopped carrying the Wave.
I've been doing far more blade shopping than usual. In the past 30 days I've picked up a bayonet for my BM59, a Kershaw Seguin, a second Kershaw Chive (pink), an Ontario Rat 2, an Ontario SP1 Combat, a S&W M&P Extreme Ops Karambit, a QSP Penguin, a Kizer Squidward, and a Kizer Vanguard Mini Begleiter.
What have y'all bought recently?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 03:22:13 PMAnd my EDC usually consists of a Spyderco Tenacious and a Leatherman Wingman. I used to carry a Wave, but once I picked up the Wingman stopped carrying the Wave.
The Wingman is certainly lighter than the Wave. I actually think the scissors on the Wingman are better than those on the Wave.
My understanding is Leatherman no longer carries the Wingman (or the Sidekick, a similar model from LT's more affordable range). That's a shame.
Quote from: majorhavoc on January 24, 2023, 03:28:37 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 03:22:13 PMAnd my EDC usually consists of a Spyderco Tenacious and a Leatherman Wingman. I used to carry a Wave, but once I picked up the Wingman stopped carrying the Wave.
The Wingman is certainly lighter than the Wave. I actually think the scissors on the Wingman are better than those on the Wave.
My understanding is Leatherman no longer carries the Wingman (or the Sidekick, a similar model from LT's more affordable range). That's a shame.
As far as I know, the Wingman is still being made. The latest SMKW catalog has them for like 60 bucks, which is about 20 bucks more than I paid for mine a few years back.
Maybe you're thinking of the Leatherman Blast ?
Quote from: NT2C on January 24, 2023, 03:26:17 PMI've been doing far more blade shopping than usual. In the past 30 days I've picked up a bayonet for my BM59, a Kershaw Seguin, a second Kershaw Chive (pink), an Ontario Rat 2, an Ontario SP1 Combat, a S&W M&P Extreme Ops Karambit, a QSP Penguin, a Kizer Squidward, and a Kizer Vanguard Mini Begleiter.
What have y'all bought recently?
So far the only knife I've bought recently is a Civivi Praxis.
If I can swing it this payday, I'll probably order another one. I'm also thinking of getting one of Civivi's Mini Praxis knives too. Midway's got those for 29 bucks and the regular Praxis for 42 bucks.
ETA: I've also been looking at those QSP Penguins too. They look nice and they're pretty well reviewed on YouTube. Soon as I can, I might place an order for one over on Smoky Mountain Knife Works.
Quote from: NT2C on January 24, 2023, 03:26:17 PMI've been doing far more blade shopping than usual. In the past 30 days I've picked up a bayonet for my BM59, a Kershaw Seguin, a second Kershaw Chive (pink), an Ontario Rat 2, an Ontario SP1 Combat, a S&W M&P Extreme Ops Karambit, a QSP Penguin, a Kizer Squidward, and a Kizer Vanguard Mini Begleiter.
What have y'all bought recently?
:eek1:
Funny story, I bought a Kershaw Misdirect off Amazon for my wife first week of Jan, but USPS delivered to some other address other than to me at my work address. After contacting the seller, and not hearing back from them for 5 days, the 'seller' then emailed me a 'how did we rate' email to which I went off on them. 3 days later they finally responded to that and said put in an A-Z guarantee claim. So I got a refund.
We'll it just arrived yesterday. :shades:
Wifey wanted a smaller EDC folder, her current one has a seatbelt cutter and glass breaker on it so the handle is large for a 3.25" bladed knife and EDC'ing it in her pocket is 'uncomfortable' and cause for her to not EDC it in her pocket.
The Misdirect is a 3" blade with a similar sized grip. Too small for me, but she likes it.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ShsAAOSwOEVgsgkU/s-l300.jpg)
I don't have a lot of 'decent' folders like you have. I just have one decent one of each type.
Liner lock assisted open
Frame lock assisted open
Frame Lock flipper
Backstrap lockblade
Autoknife [but to small and not a namebrand]
I don't have an OTF or decent auto knife yet. I'll might get an OTF knife eventually but not another auto/switchblade, they have that safety lock and that doesn't float my boat.
And I have a 'cheapo' liner lock thumbstud and liner lock flipper, Ozark and Sheffield. But I don't really count those.
What am I missing besides a projectile or gas knife?
You have any fixed blades, Mac ?
I want to get an automatic knife, but they're all mostly out of my budget (except maybe the Kershaw Launch series which can be had for around 110 bucks).
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 24, 2023, 04:25:31 PMWhat am I missing besides a projectile or gas knife?
Slingshot? (https://a.co/j5b44lW)
:greenguy:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 04:37:08 PMYou have any fixed blades, Mac ?
I want to get an automatic knife, but they're all mostly out of my budget (except maybe the Kershaw Launch series which can be had for around 110 bucks).
Buck now has an auto version of the Buck 110 and I'm really tempted...
Quote from: NT2C on January 24, 2023, 04:45:43 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 04:37:08 PMYou have any fixed blades, Mac ?
I want to get an automatic knife, but they're all mostly out of my budget (except maybe the Kershaw Launch series which can be had for around 110 bucks).
Buck now has an auto version of the Buck 110 and I'm really tempted...
I've seen those as well and I'm also tempted. Only thing stopping me is I don't have 200 bucks to drop on a knife right now.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 04:48:51 PMQuote from: NT2C on January 24, 2023, 04:45:43 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 04:37:08 PMYou have any fixed blades, Mac ?
I want to get an automatic knife, but they're all mostly out of my budget (except maybe the Kershaw Launch series which can be had for around 110 bucks).
Buck now has an auto version of the Buck 110 and I'm really tempted...
I've seen those as well and I'm also tempted. Only thing stopping me is I don't have 200 bucks to drop on a knife right now.
Yeah, neither do I... but I will in a couple of months. :awesome:
Quote from: NT2C on January 24, 2023, 04:52:19 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 04:48:51 PMQuote from: NT2C on January 24, 2023, 04:45:43 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 04:37:08 PMYou have any fixed blades, Mac ?
I want to get an automatic knife, but they're all mostly out of my budget (except maybe the Kershaw Launch series which can be had for around 110 bucks).
Buck now has an auto version of the Buck 110 and I'm really tempted...
I've seen those as well and I'm also tempted. Only thing stopping me is I don't have 200 bucks to drop on a knife right now.
Yeah, neither do I... but I will in a couple of months. :awesome:
I'll probably have to keep dreaming on owning one of those Buck 110 autos.
There's a lot of knives I have to admire from afar due to my limited budget.
ETA: Buck also makes an auto called the "Deploy" that I like the looks of, but it's also the same price as the 110 Auto.
Quote from: majorhavoc on January 24, 2023, 03:28:37 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 03:22:13 PMAnd my EDC usually consists of a Spyderco Tenacious and a Leatherman Wingman. I used to carry a Wave, but once I picked up the Wingman stopped carrying the Wave.
The Wingman is certainly lighter than the Wave. I actually think the scissors on the Wingman are better than those on the Wave.
My understanding is Leatherman no longer carries the Wingman (or the Sidekick, a similar model from LT's more affordable range). That's a shame.
After a ton of research I decided the Wingman was the best multitool for bugging out. Its weight and scissors make it my go to. The weight for hiking with it. And the scissors for first aid and gear/clothing repair. I found three of them used on Ebay for $20 each. I keep one in my vehicle, backpack and last ditch fannypack.
I didn't know they stopped making them. Thats a shame. I found a site called moon something that listed all the leatherman specs on one page. It was very handy.
Add a Kershaw Static Brass to my list of recent blades. This one (and two of the others) are going to be gifts to friends though.
Quote from: Moab on January 24, 2023, 06:31:42 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on January 24, 2023, 03:28:37 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 03:22:13 PMAnd my EDC usually consists of a Spyderco Tenacious and a Leatherman Wingman. I used to carry a Wave, but once I picked up the Wingman stopped carrying the Wave.
The Wingman is certainly lighter than the Wave. I actually think the scissors on the Wingman are better than those on the Wave.
My understanding is Leatherman no longer carries the Wingman (or the Sidekick, a similar model from LT's more affordable range). That's a shame.
After a ton of research I decided the Wingman was the best multitool for bugging out. Its weight and scissors make it my go to. The weight for hiking with it. And the scissors for first aid and gear/clothing repair. I found three of them used on Ebay for $20 each. I keep one in my vehicle, backpack and last ditch fannypack.
I didn't know they stopped making them. Thats a shame. I found a site called moon something that listed all the leatherman specs on one page. It was very handy.
Leatherman still shows them making the Wingman on their site. They may have discontinued a variant of it (like they did with some variants of the Wave and Charge), but the regular Wingman is still being made.
Smoky Mountain Knife Works has them in stock for about 70 bucks.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 07:07:53 PMQuote from: Moab on January 24, 2023, 06:31:42 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on January 24, 2023, 03:28:37 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 03:22:13 PMAnd my EDC usually consists of a Spyderco Tenacious and a Leatherman Wingman. I used to carry a Wave, but once I picked up the Wingman stopped carrying the Wave.
The Wingman is certainly lighter than the Wave. I actually think the scissors on the Wingman are better than those on the Wave.
My understanding is Leatherman no longer carries the Wingman (or the Sidekick, a similar model from LT's more affordable range). That's a shame.
After a ton of research I decided the Wingman was the best multitool for bugging out. Its weight and scissors make it my go to. The weight for hiking with it. And the scissors for first aid and gear/clothing repair. I found three of them used on Ebay for $20 each. I keep one in my vehicle, backpack and last ditch fannypack.
I didn't know they stopped making them. Thats a shame. I found a site called moon something that listed all the leatherman specs on one page. It was very handy.
Leatherman still shows them making the Wingman on their site. They may have discontinued a variant of it (like they did with some variants of the Wave and Charge), but the regular Wingman is still being made.
Smoky Mountain Knife Works has them in stock for about 70 bucks.
I got my Wingman for something like $25, a post-holiday markdown at Home Depot. It came blister packed along with a Style CS, which was sort of a mini Skeletool, but with scissors instead of pliers. I think back then the Wingman by itself was going for $30.
After I bought it, I started jonesing for the Wave, which many say is the absolute best all-around multitool. I finally got one and yes, it's beautifully made. And has more capability and I'm sure more reserve strength in the build and materials than the Wingman.
But owning both, I can honestly say I like the Wingman better. It is to the Wave as the AK is to the AR. Cheaper, cruder, but damn it does what I need it to, and it does it well.
Yeah, I paid probably 30 bucks or so for my Wingman a few years back.
Now they're 70 bucks. :eek1:
I paid almost 80 bucks for each of the Waves I've got. I had originally bought one and carried it around for awhile until my brother Dave somehow broke the scissors on it. So I ended up buying another one and the broken one lived in a drawer.
Until 2019 when I realized the scissors on the Blast were exactly the same as on the Wave. So I took the scissors off my Blast and swapped them for the busted ones on my Wave.
Now I just need to find a busted Blast with intact scissors to fix mine since Leatherman won't fix it. They'll just replace it with a Rebar and I've already got one of those. It's an ok tool, but I'm not really a fan of it. Thankfully I only traded an AK mag for it and didn't actually pay for it.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 04:37:08 PMYou have any fixed blades, Mac ?
I want to get an automatic knife, but they're all mostly out of my budget (except maybe the Kershaw Launch series which can be had for around 110 bucks).
I have an ESEE-4 and a S&W Homeland Security in Urban Titanium, one for each 2nd line kit.
(https://i.imgur.com/u5p6tfl.jpg)
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 25, 2023, 08:56:46 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 24, 2023, 04:37:08 PMYou have any fixed blades, Mac ?
I want to get an automatic knife, but they're all mostly out of my budget (except maybe the Kershaw Launch series which can be had for around 110 bucks).
I have an ESEE-4 and a S&W Homeland Security in Urban Titanium, one for each 2nd line kit.
(https://i.imgur.com/u5p6tfl.jpg)
ETA: Forgot I have this S&W H.R.T. also.
(https://i.imgur.com/eCam781.jpg?1)
I've got the the ESEE4HM. I also have the ESEE5.
The square scales on the ESEE5 were so uncomfortable that I replaced them with rounded G10. (They make rounded Micarta now. Which I'd like to get. You can get both for your ESEE4 at the knife connection. They run $45(?).)
But it made such a huge difference in ergonomics. The square scales really hurt my hands after a few minutes of working with the knife. The rounded ones are a big improvement.
I also replaced the scale fasteners with phillips head. I feel like the allen head ones are a big mistake. Everyone has a multitool with a phillips head screwdriver. Try keeping track of a tiny allen wrench?! I could never remember where it was in all my gear.
If you ever wanted to clean under the scales. Or remove them to fashion a spear. You'd be screwed if you couldn't find that one tiny size of allen head.
My point is I'm sure you could replace the ones on the ESEE4. Although I have not looked. And I don't recall where I found them. I think mcmaster carr.
How it looks now. But I think rounded/contoured micarta would look and feel much better:
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That's why I bought the ESEE4HM. Its the one with the rounded bushcraft handle and scales.
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For a bugout or hunting. It's a great knife. I love the apocolyptic value of the ESEE5. And its .25" blade. But its a bit of a beast weight wise. The ESEE4 still has enough steel to feel unbreakable in your hands. But the ergonomics of the handle are superior. Its also a much better size for detail work as well as batoning or other rough tasks.
I didn't pay much attention to ergonomics when I bought the ESEE5. And a few other fixed blades. I do now. It makes a big difference. As does the slight bend on the backbone. The kukri style is quite superior in that regard.
I want to say the length of the grip on the ESEE-4 is about 1cm short of ideal for my handsize. But the weight and size and utility is excellent. I had considered the E5 at the same time as the E4, to get a longer grip size but the price difference to ergonomics didn't make sense. I might get a E5 down the line if funding comes available.
There is another sort of rounded micarta grip with a chipped flint style texture that I was looking at but the price to change them or the need to is why I haven't done it.
I'm going to check the size of that allen screw to see if its one that I carry with all the time. If it is then it won't be an issue, but I didn't think about that. THX.
That S&W Homeland is ridiculously heavy too. Last night I was trying to judge it and I'm pretty sure its at least 16 oz. [Just confirmed its 17.2 oz]
I think my next fixed blade is going to be an IWB concealable pick style. But that would be redundant since if I have pockets I'm carrying my EDC folder. And as we speak I already have 3 blades on my person. :rolleyes1: SAK, ZT 0452CF, and Leatherman ST-300.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Foptiongray.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F01%2FIMG_7940-768x576.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=5751c65f5dbdf5a14a87243edbff2f0f5be69b3c0e1292320e35b80d5092b253&ipo=images)
If I wear my HRT necknife and the IWB knife I could have 5 knifes on my person at any one time. A boot knife would almost max me out. LOL
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 25, 2023, 11:48:07 AMAnd as we speak I already have 3 blades on my person. :rolleyes1: SAK, ZT 0452CF, and Leatherman ST-300.
Damn, I need to step up my game, I only have two, my Gerber Paraframe and my CRKT LCK+ Large. I do have seven more within arms reach though, so that has to count for something, right?
Quote from: NT2C on January 25, 2023, 11:58:20 AMQuote from: MacWa77ace on January 25, 2023, 11:48:07 AMAnd as we speak I already have 3 blades on my person. :rolleyes1: SAK, ZT 0452CF, and Leatherman ST-300.
Damn, I need to step up my game, I only have two, my Gerber Paraframe and my CRKT LCK+ Large. I do have seven more within arms reach though, so that has to count for something, right?
Yep, but more than you think 'cause I have a back up Kershaw Cryo II, That ESEE-4, a Husky folding Box Knife, and a utility box cutter in my EDC bag right next to me now. If I was in my car with my EDC bag, add two more thumbstud liner locks.
So while I'm in my car, driving to work I have ..... :smiley_chinrub:
9 blades within reach. If I add the bootknife, the IWB and neckknife, that'd be 12.
This is the prepping place... right? No judging.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FjWexOOlYe241y%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=da54aade2da20bb6c8c3d8a50ee688bab6a9a5fe79ee1a2154eeed0efd7bdbfa&ipo=images)
Just working on personal improvements. :smiley_knipoog:
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 25, 2023, 12:38:42 PMQuote from: NT2C on January 25, 2023, 11:58:20 AMQuote from: MacWa77ace on January 25, 2023, 11:48:07 AMAnd as we speak I already have 3 blades on my person. :rolleyes1: SAK, ZT 0452CF, and Leatherman ST-300.
Damn, I need to step up my game, I only have two, my Gerber Paraframe and my CRKT LCK+ Large. I do have seven more within arms reach though, so that has to count for something, right?
Yep, but more than you think 'cause I have a back up Kershaw Cryo II, That ESEE-4, a Husky folding Box Knife, and a utility box cutter in my EDC bag right next to me now. If I was in my car with my EDC bag, add two more thumbstud liner locks.
So while I'm in my car, driving to work I have ..... :smiley_chinrub:
9 blades within reach. If I add the bootknife, the IWB and neckknife, that'd be 12.
Well, I do have a cavalry saber in the hallway...
Quote from: NT2C on January 25, 2023, 12:52:05 PMWell, I do have a cavalry saber in the hallway...
That counts as 3. But you have to wear it.
I have this in my garage, its my heavyweight machette. Short Sword with no name cuts thru thigh sized banana trees with one wack.
(https://i.imgur.com/SfbeRTd.jpg)
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 25, 2023, 01:34:49 PMQuote from: NT2C on January 25, 2023, 12:52:05 PMWell, I do have a cavalry saber in the hallway...
That counts as 3. But you have to wear it.
I have this in my garage, its my heavyweight machette. Short Sword with no name cuts thru thigh sized banana trees with one wack.
(https://i.imgur.com/SfbeRTd.jpg)
We're counting machetes? Cool! I have several of those, including a USGI Ontario 22"
And my wife wears the saber in the family.
Quote from: NT2C on January 25, 2023, 02:55:01 PMQuote from: MacWa77ace on January 25, 2023, 01:34:49 PMQuote from: NT2C on January 25, 2023, 12:52:05 PMWell, I do have a cavalry saber in the hallway...
That counts as 3. But you have to wear it.
I have this in my garage, its my heavyweight machette. Short Sword with no name cuts thru thigh sized banana trees with one wack.
(https://i.imgur.com/SfbeRTd.jpg)
We're counting machetes? Cool! I have several of those, including a USGI Ontario 22"
And my wife wears the saber in the family.
Its a short sword but since I only use it for cutting down banana trees etc i've renamed it. But a rose by any other name is still a sword.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 25, 2023, 11:48:07 AMI want to say the length of the grip on the ESEE-4 is about 1cm short of ideal for my handsize. But the weight and size and utility is excellent. I had considered the E5 at the same time as the E4, to get a longer grip size but the price difference to ergonomics didn't make sense. I might get a E5 down the line if funding comes available.
There is another sort of rounded micarta grip with a chipped flint style texture that I was looking at but the price to change them or the need to is why I haven't done it.
I'm going to check the size of that allen screw to see if its one that I carry with all the time. If it is then it won't be an issue, but I didn't think about that. THX.
That S&W Homeland is ridiculously heavy too. Last night I was trying to judge it and I'm pretty sure its at least 16 oz. [Just confirmed its 17.2 oz]
I think my next fixed blade is going to be an IWB concealable pick style. But that would be redundant since if I have pockets I'm carrying my EDC folder. And as we speak I already have 3 blades on my person. :rolleyes1: SAK, ZT 0452CF, and Leatherman ST-300.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Foptiongray.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F01%2FIMG_7940-768x576.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=5751c65f5dbdf5a14a87243edbff2f0f5be69b3c0e1292320e35b80d5092b253&ipo=images)
If I wear my HRT necknife and the IWB knife I could have 5 knifes on my person at any one time. A boot knife would almost max me out. LOL
Which pick style knife? I've been looking at these lately.
We'll the pick style is pretty much the same size and shape across brands. There are small variances on the grips, angles, and the way to holsters attach. Like a Bowie Knife, if it doesn't look like what its supposed to, its not really a Bowie.
If you're asking which brand I can't recommend. Shivworks revitalized them IIRC.
Look at type of holster and how it attaches and conceals, shape of grip, price and then the reviews is about all I can say at this point.
https://www.knifeguides.com/clinch-pick-knife/
Push daggers are another style but in California daggers with the name dagger are not legal. Again check your states precedents for what they say about pick knives being daggers or not.
I don't think anything is illegal in Texas knifewise. Except maybe those ballistic knives, but I'd have to double check before I said anything on that.
I think it was back in 2019 when my state said "Screw it. Let's get rid of the stupid blade length limit law and what kind of bladed weapons folks can carry."
Before then we couldn't even carry a Bowie knife and Texas is well known for that particular style knife.
Oh, and before I forget it, I ordered another Civivi Praxis folder. :smiley_clap:
I tend to do this with most knives I really like, which probably explains why I have a small plastic desk organizer thing full of my various folding and smaller fixed blades (the larger ones live in a drawer on my nightstand.).
So, five years ago , Woodswalker made this video
https://youtu.be/QqrA8BtVpEk
At the time I thought it was a pretty neat knife that I could use. I've seen it for sale at some European knife websites and on Amazon but always with a stiff shipping charge . And also usually marked out of stock
Today we were at Walmart and I was making a quick pass through the sporting goods dept. I checked to see what kind of shotgun shells they had and sitting on the shell shelf were two of these
https://www.camillusknives.com/camillus-swedge-fixed-blade-knife.html
$17.56 It's not the hacking knife Woodswalker showed in the video. But the concept is the same. Tried it out making tinder for the fire stove this afternoon. It worked well . Now I just need to figure out how o even if I want to incorporate it into one of my bags. Or just use it for the wood stove. Maybe I will start a new day pack bag around the knife
The knife Woodswalker showed kind of reminds me of the Ontario "Gobar" knife.
Smoky Mountain Knife Works has those for about 60 bucks and I think Midway had some for less than that a few weeks ago.
Got my bayonet for my BM59 in yesterday's mail. I'm resisting the temptation to put a better edge on it. The edge it has is fine for a bayonet, which is more for stabbing than for cutting and sharpening it further would just remove the coating on the blade that keeps it from rusting.
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Hacking knife you say? (https://a.co/d/cFYgIYn)
Or perhaps this one? (https://hardwickandsons.com/products/crown-tools-4-1-2-chipping-knife-hacking-knife)
Quote from: NT2C on January 26, 2023, 04:42:45 AMHacking knife you say? (https://a.co/d/cFYgIYn)
Or perhaps this one? (https://hardwickandsons.com/products/crown-tools-4-1-2-chipping-knife-hacking-knife)
I believe the Hyde model is the one Woodswalker had in the video. (have to re watch the video to be sure) Ok after I typed that I checked my Amazon wish list cause I've had the knife on my wish list for five years. And it isn't either of the companies you linked. I'll check the video again in a bit to be sure. But this is the one from my list
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001P06NK/?coliid=I14Z02BI7B24QN&colid=223CV76HK1ZSJ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Quote from: flybynight on January 26, 2023, 05:39:35 AMQuote from: NT2C on January 26, 2023, 04:42:45 AMHacking knife you say? (https://a.co/d/cFYgIYn)
Or perhaps this one? (https://hardwickandsons.com/products/crown-tools-4-1-2-chipping-knife-hacking-knife)
I believe the Hyde model is the one Woodswalker had in the video. (have to re watch the video to be sure) Ok after I typed that I checked my Amazon wish list cause I've had the knife on my wish list for five years. And it isn't either of the companies you linked. I'll check the video again in a bit to be sure. But this is the one from my list
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001P06NK/?coliid=I14Z02BI7B24QN&colid=223CV76HK1ZSJ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
The second one is what you want.
Quote from: NT2C on January 26, 2023, 04:37:57 AMGot my bayonet for my BM59 in yesterday's mail. I'm resisting the temptation to put a better edge on it. The edge it has is fine for a bayonet, which is more for stabbing than for cutting and sharpening it further would just remove the coating on the blade that keeps it from rusting.
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Nice
I thought 'modern' bayonets were all purpose knives which included survival use if necessary.
What are all those shims at the pommel?
Those shims are actually the locking mechanism for when you attach the bayonet to the rifle, Mac.
There's a groove in the pommel that slides over the bayonet lug and there's also a little tab that you press to take it off the lug.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 26, 2023, 09:03:46 AMI thought 'modern' bayonets were all purpose knives which included survival use if necessary.
What are all those shims at the pommel?
Ah, questions! I once wrote a long research paper about the history of the bayonet for a computer game add-on. I love bayonet questions. Modern US doctrine is that bayonets are as you say. This is not a US bayonet though, it's Italian for use on the Beretta BM-59 rifle that started production in the 1950s. Italian troops then (and now) mostly use a folding knife or a different fixed blade for "normal" day-to-day tasks. The bayonet is almost considered purely ceremonial these days but is still carried by certain troops (mostly guard troops) for use at close range.
Chimpov gave you the straight dope on the attachment mechanism. I can provide close-up pictures of it if you want.
Speaking of guard troops, don't the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier guards still carry bayonets attached to their M14's ?
And I'm kind of bummed the only thing I have that takes a bayonet is my Mosin. Neither my AK or AR is set up for a bayonet (not without modifications anyway).
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 02:09:59 PMSpeaking of guard troops, don't the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier guards still carry bayonets attached to their M14's ?
And I'm kind of bummed the only thing I have that takes a bayonet is my Mosin. Neither my AK or AR is set up for a bayonet (not without modifications anyway).
Yes, indeed they do. And they will use them if they have to. They do "warn" transgressors by cycling the bolt but with no magazine in place it's strictly for intimidation.
Quote from: NT2C on January 26, 2023, 03:58:54 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 02:09:59 PMSpeaking of guard troops, don't the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier guards still carry bayonets attached to their M14's ?
And I'm kind of bummed the only thing I have that takes a bayonet is my Mosin. Neither my AK or AR is set up for a bayonet (not without modifications anyway).
Yes, indeed they do. And they will use them if they have to. They do "warn" transgressors by cycling the bolt but with no magazine in place it's strictly for intimidation.
Still, I'd rather not get poked with what's essentially a four foot or so long spear even if it's not loaded.
Which is probably one reason I like my Mosin. It's a nearly six foot long (total length with bayonet is 5'7") spear that has the ability to launch 148 grain projectiles at about 2,800 fps.
Evidently, SMKW has a real problem with shipping. Not that they ship late or slowly rather, in over-shipping orders. I ordered a Kershaw Static in Brass from them the other day on a good discount. I was kinda surprised when two of them, in completely separate packages, showed up in my mailbox. I checked my order with them and there was just one ordered. I checked the invoice in each one and neither had my actual order number on it. They were sent out one at the beginning of the day, one at the end of the day. At this point I'm thinking to myself, "Cool, a freebie (USPS regs allow you to keep unordered merchandise as free gifts) but what am I gonna do with it? I bought it as a gift for someone and don't want my own." Deciding to be a nice guy I decided to contact them and return the extra one. I realized that this is an ongoing issue for them when I saw that Step 2 of the preprinted return form stuffed in with the invoice actually had a "duplicate shipment" checkbox. (My wife got a kick out of the "My spouse found out" checkbox, which their customer service lady said accounts for about 60% of their returns.) The difficult part was "How do you want your refund?" It wasn't until the C/S agent urged me to look that I realized they'd charged me twice, once when the order was placed, and once that very morning. THAT pissed me right the fuck off. That second charge was 100% unauthorized and I'm tempted to make a big stink of it with the FTC. Yeah, I'll get my money refunded by them when they get the knife back (plus a few days of processing) but the point is that they essentially stole it from me to cover their own mistake. I will no longer be doing business with SMKW.
I had a similar problem with Amazon, but I didn't receive my order until after Amazon fixed their screw up and I paid 7 bucks in shipping.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 28, 2023, 03:22:37 PMI had a similar problem with Amazon, but I didn't receive my order until after Amazon fixed their screw up and I paid 7 bucks in shipping.
I have had the opposite problem with amazon. A few times. If something is late or they cant track it they say its lost. Send a second one. And when the first one shows up you can keep that too. My wife just got a second pair of slippers for free.
Sort of related but not. I bought $2500 tv from a place in brooklyn. Was supposed to be new. Came as a class b refurbished. I called visa. Apparently theyd had problems with this guy. After a long investigation. They called me up to inform me they had refunded me the $2500. The tv had been sitting in the box in our living room. I asked when I needed to have the tv returned by. They said its ok just keep it. They must have really wanted to stick it to this guy. Lol.
Funny thing was I had purchased a second new one from Bestbiy. Brand new. And we set up the class b refurb in our living room. The class b had a better picture than the new one from bestbuy.
I had an order cancelled by Amazon for some reason and a few days later, the seller emailed me and asked how I liked the product (it was a morale patch).
I told the seller that I never received the patch because Amazon cancelled my order and refunded my money. Seller says to give them a bit and they'd get back to me on that. About a day goes by and I get an email from the seller again (Gadsden and Culpeper on Amazon, if anyone wanted to know.). They asked for my address and what patch it was I ordered. I gave them the info and they said they'd be sending me the patch free of charge to apologize for Amazon cancelling my order. I told them they didn't have to do that, but they insisted on making it right for me.
That patch is currently riding on my Condor patch cap and has followed me through two of those hats.
Quote from: NT2C on January 28, 2023, 03:15:04 PMI will no longer be doing business with SMKW.
For some reason, I had completely blanked on a local major knife retailer literally just minutes from my house: Knife Center (https://www.knifecenter.com/)
I'll be taking a ride over there next week and perhaps seeing it they might want to sign on with us as a sponsor. :awesome:
Quote from: NT2C on January 29, 2023, 06:39:28 AMQuote from: NT2C on January 28, 2023, 03:15:04 PMI will no longer be doing business with SMKW.
For some reason, I had completely blanked on a local major knife retailer literally just minutes from my house: Knife Center (https://www.knifecenter.com/)
I'll be taking a ride over there next week and perhaps seeing it they might want to sign on with us as a sponsor. :awesome:
Sponsorship? Hell yeah. In addition to knives they sell flashlights, multi-tools, outdoor/survival products and military/LE gear. They're a goddamn all-you-can-eat buffet of the things UFoZS'ers love to own, use and talk about.
Got my second Civivi Praxis folder in today. Delivery estimate was for Thursday, but it got here two days early. :smiley_clap:
This is my second Civivi blade and probably won't be my last since they've got a few models I'm interested it. Like their Elementum fixed blade since I'm looking for something different for my EDC fixed blade.
The Uncle Henry/Schrade Golden Spike I carry is good, but it's a little on the heavy side with the solid brass pommel. So I'm looking for something lighter (and made of a better steel than 440A) and I think Civivi might be it.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 03:51:13 PMGot my second Civivi Praxis folder in today. Delivery estimate was for Thursday, but it got here two days early. :smiley_clap:
This is my second Civivi blade and probably won't be my last since they've got a few models I'm interested it. Like their Elementum fixed blade since I'm looking for something different for my EDC fixed blade.
The Uncle Henry/Schrade Golden Spike I carry is good, but it's a little on the heavy side with the solid brass pommel. So I'm looking for something lighter (and made of a better steel than 440A) and I think Civivi might be it.
Good for you! Amazon keeps screwing around with my Ontario Rat II order.
Ordered it on the 9th with delivery supposed to be the 12th. It never shipped on the 12th and when I checked the next day it was changed to the 16th. On the 16th it still hadn't shipped and on the 17th I got a message apologizing for the delay and asking if I would wait until the 27th. I agreed and the 27th came and went with the date being changed late that evening to the 31st. Today, again it never shipped and now it says that Amazon will email me when they have a new shipping date.
Meanwhile, if I click the link to the product page it says it's in stock and shows Prime One-Day Delivery. I contacted Customer Support asking, essentially but more politely, "Hey, WTF??" Customer support wants to do some convoluted solution where they cancel the original order, I place a new order (at a price 3x what I ordered it for) and then they will ship it in 3 days. Once I get it then I'm supposed to contact them again for a refund. I politely told them, "Fuck no, and I'm very angry that Amazon is doing this."
The chat ended with no resolution.
That sucks, NT2C.
Seems like Amazon has taken a big step down in terms of quality in the last couple years.
ETA: Not sure how much Amazon had the Rat II for, but MidwayUSA has them in stock for $35.95 for the satin finish blade and $36.95 for the black finish blade.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 05:22:57 PMThat sucks, NT2C.
Seems like Amazon has taken a big step down in terms of quality in the last couple years.
ETA: Not sure how much Amazon had the Rat II for, but MidwayUSA has them in stock for $35.95 for the satin finish blade and $36.95 for the black finish blade.
Sale price was just under $24 and I had a $7 gift credit, so my final cost would be ~$17
Quote from: NT2C on January 31, 2023, 05:28:13 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 05:22:57 PMThat sucks, NT2C.
Seems like Amazon has taken a big step down in terms of quality in the last couple years.
ETA: Not sure how much Amazon had the Rat II for, but MidwayUSA has them in stock for $35.95 for the satin finish blade and $36.95 for the black finish blade.
Sale price was just under $24 and I had a $7 gift credit, so my final cost would be ~$17
That's not a bad price.
Assuming Amazon comes through and doesn't screw you over.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 06:15:28 PMQuote from: NT2C on January 31, 2023, 05:28:13 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 05:22:57 PMThat sucks, NT2C.
Seems like Amazon has taken a big step down in terms of quality in the last couple years.
ETA: Not sure how much Amazon had the Rat II for, but MidwayUSA has them in stock for $35.95 for the satin finish blade and $36.95 for the black finish blade.
Sale price was just under $24 and I had a $7 gift credit, so my final cost would be ~$17
That's not a bad price.
Assuming Amazon comes through and doesn't screw you over.
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This is a screenshot of the package tracking app I use. It interfaces direct with my Amazon account and updates every 6 hours. Note the dates at the bottom where the delivery date kept getting changed. Now Amazon wants me to approve yet another wait. I have until March 2nd to approve the wait :rolleyes1:
Is it shipping direct from Amazon or a third party seller ?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 06:28:06 PMIs it shipping direct from Amazon or a third party seller ?
Originally it was coming direct from OKC, then it changed to sold by/shipped by Amazon. According to customer service, they have none in any fulfillment center close to me so it will take several days to ship it from a different center, if I want to cancel my current order and reorder at the higher price. It's fucking blatant "bait & switch" and I'm really tempted to file a complaint about it with the state AG, but our AG is pretty worthless on such things.
Quote from: NT2C on January 31, 2023, 06:44:06 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 06:28:06 PMIs it shipping direct from Amazon or a third party seller ?
Originally it was coming direct from OKC, then it changed to sold by/shipped by Amazon. According to customer service, they have none in any fulfillment center close to me so it will take several days to ship it from a different center, if I want to cancel my current order and reorder at the higher price. It's fucking blatant "bait & switch" and I'm really tempted to file a complaint about it with the state AG, but our AG is pretty worthless on such things.
If I had the funds, I'd order one from Midway for you and you could tell Amazon to shove the other one somewhere and get your money back.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 07:05:31 PMQuote from: NT2C on January 31, 2023, 06:44:06 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 06:28:06 PMIs it shipping direct from Amazon or a third party seller ?
Originally it was coming direct from OKC, then it changed to sold by/shipped by Amazon. According to customer service, they have none in any fulfillment center close to me so it will take several days to ship it from a different center, if I want to cancel my current order and reorder at the higher price. It's fucking blatant "bait & switch" and I'm really tempted to file a complaint about it with the state AG, but our AG is pretty worthless on such things.
If I had the funds, I'd order one from Midway for you and you could tell Amazon to shove the other one somewhere and get your money back.
No worries, bud. If I don't have it by the time I get my next SSI check I'll just pick one up locally.
Well, hopefully Amazon pulls their heads out of their asses and gets your knife to you soon.
Speaking of knives, I did a little browsing on Knife Center's website and found a couple knives I like. One in particular is an Al Mar SERE 2020 assisted opener.
When did Al Mar knives go down in price so much ? I remember them being a lot more expensive about 10 years ago.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 09:33:39 PMWell, hopefully Amazon pulls their heads out of their asses and gets your knife to you soon.
Speaking of knives, I did a little browsing on Knife Center's website and found a couple knives I like. One in particular is an Al Mar SERE 2020 assisted opener.
When did Al Mar knives go down in price so much ? I remember them being a lot more expensive about 10 years ago.
That was on my short list. Nice knife.
Quote from: Moab on January 31, 2023, 10:41:53 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 31, 2023, 09:33:39 PMWell, hopefully Amazon pulls their heads out of their asses and gets your knife to you soon.
Speaking of knives, I did a little browsing on Knife Center's website and found a couple knives I like. One in particular is an Al Mar SERE 2020 assisted opener.
When did Al Mar knives go down in price so much ? I remember them being a lot more expensive about 10 years ago.
That was on my short list. Nice knife.
From what little experience I have with Al Mar knives, they're really nice. The one I got to handle was really light and had really good balance.
I've never owned one, but that's mostly because they were always out of my price range. Now that I know they're within my budget, I may pick one up at a later date.
I seen some Kershaw/Al Mar collaborations like this one
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KS2335/kershaw-2335-al-mar-am-3-assisted-flipper-satin-spear-point-blade-black-g10-and-stainless-steel-handles?utm_source=website&utm_medium=knifenews&utm_campaign=manualentry-new-2017-kershaw-products&kcno=123
I've seen those too, Rednex.
I used to have a couple of the Kershaw/Emerson collaboration knives and I wasn't a fan of those. I sold one and gave the other to my oldest nephew last year.
So I'm not sure if I have enough faith in Kershaw to not screw up an Al Mar collaboration like they did with the Emerson ones.
Kershaw's 'budget' line of knives are all made in China. I'm not sure the pricing cutoff but I think anything below $55 retail you can start checking the 'made in' info.
The Misdirect I got recently is one of those. Nice knife though for $30.
I think most of Civivi's stuff is made in China.
Most of the knives I own are made in China with a few being made in the US or Taiwan.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on February 02, 2023, 08:39:52 AMKershaw's 'budget' line of knives are all made in China. I'm not sure the pricing cutoff but I think anything below $55 retail you can start checking the 'made in' info.
The Misdirect I got recently is one of those. Nice knife though for $30.
China has some utter crap stuff, but when they really want to they can make exquisite knives. Quite a few Chinese makers are now tiring of being the "generic" producer for some of the big names and are starting to make their own brands known and respected. That's what happened with the flashlight company Sofirn.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 02, 2023, 08:41:55 PMI think most of Civivi's stuff is made in China.
Most of the knives I own are made in China with a few being made in the US or Taiwan.
I bought a civivi praxis last year. It's .12 thick. But the grind was such, and the blade is quite large, that it doesn't feel very robust. It's rather thin. Like if you got it stuck in something it could easily snap the blade. I got it on sale for like $37. So it wasn't to bad.
It was also my first flipper. Which while opening very fast with only a slight flip of the wrist. I found I had to make a slight additional adjustment to get it firmly in my grip after opening. Which kind of negates the quick opening.
After practicing with my knock off chris reeves sebenza (which is a better knife imho), I can open it via thumb stud just as fast. And my grip is firmly on the knife as soon as its open. It's also quiet. The flipper emits an audible click when the blade opens.
Not a bad knife. Just some observations. I don't think I'll be purchasing anymore flippers though.
Edit - The spine is ground down thin as well. Which can be clearly seen in pics. So my bad. But that makes it even more likely to break. I think there is only one thin part of the blade that is actually .12.
Quote from: Moab on February 03, 2023, 10:17:46 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 02, 2023, 08:41:55 PMI think most of Civivi's stuff is made in China.
Most of the knives I own are made in China with a few being made in the US or Taiwan.
I bought a civivi praxis last year.
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It was also my first flipper. Which while opening very fast with only a slight flip of the wrist. I found I had to make a slight additional adjustment to get it firmly in my grip after opening. Which kind of negates the quick opening.
Yeah, but just presenting an open blade so quickly will freeze your adversary - and buy you those few extra milliseconds to adjust your grip. So you'll be fully prepared when he unwisely elects to test you and your manly blade ... :icon_crazy:
yeah, that FFFLick! sound is the NEW pump shotgun rack.
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 03, 2023, 10:54:22 AMQuote from: Moab on February 03, 2023, 10:17:46 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 02, 2023, 08:41:55 PMI think most of Civivi's stuff is made in China.
Most of the knives I own are made in China with a few being made in the US or Taiwan.
I bought a civivi praxis last year.
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It was also my first flipper. Which while opening very fast with only a slight flip of the wrist. I found I had to make a slight additional adjustment to get it firmly in my grip after opening. Which kind of negates the quick opening.
Yeah, but just presenting an open blade so quickly will freeze your adversary - and buy you those few extra milliseconds to adjust your grip. So you'll be fully prepared when he unwisely elects to test you and your manly blade ... :icon_crazy:
Lol.
I know what you mean tho. But in my neck of the woods I see it as a last second, up close tool. That is only a last resort. Meaning this person is going to kill, maim or incapacitate me in the next second.
Being able to deploy a knife behind my thigh or back. Without anyone noticing. And not having to adjust my grip in that adrenaline filled moment. Seems valuable. And faster.
It's like a gun. In that brandishing it to scare someone away is a poor tactic. You need to keep that hidden until the moment you need to actually defend yourself. By shooting someone. Likewise, I don't want to show someone a defensive tool like a knife. Until I'm ready to use it.
I won't go into the myriad reasons you would want to follow the above strategy. But it seems reasonable based on current self defense teachings.
I'm also honest enough to admit that in an adrenaline fueled, heat of the moment, adjusting my grip on the handle of a knife could result in me dropping it altogether.
When I open my flipper. My finger tips are on the knife handle. In order to access the flipper knob on the spine of the knife. My hand is not grasping the handle/knife. (Like it does with a stud ooening) After it opens. I have to then turn the handle slightly and grasp my hand around it.
That is alot of tactile movement you need to perform while not looking at your blade.
I've been in fights. It's hard enough to coordinate foot movement, making a fist, bringing your arms up to defend, throwing a punch, head movement. And those are all simple body movements. Getting your fingers to adjust on an object like a knife has to be infinitely harder.
I've just recently started thinking seriously about carrying a knife for self defense. Because my environment has changed. And I don't think I would carry a pistol on the daily.
Mainly because its to hot for alot of cover clothing here. And I am not built with a thin waist. I could start working with an elastic waistband or armpit holster.
But a simple folding knife is what I see as realistic right now. And its better than nothing. Which I've been carrying for many years - nothing. Lol.
I've only studied knife fighting in a cursory fashion. But everything I've seen is based on fast, up close, last second movement. And obviously why fixed blades are preferable.
I'm looking at those as well. I think at this point I would prefer a fixed blade, horizontal carry, on a belt. Even at the short, 2 inches of blade, I am allowed by law. But I so seldom wear pants with a belt here. I wear pants only 3 or 4 months out of the year.
So I've stuck with a folder at this point. It is not the holy grail of tactical defense. I admit. But its better than nothing. I've gotten to the point now that I feel sort of naked if I end up at the store without it.
(Which is the riskiest place in town I go. Two different grocery stores in a fairly wrong part of town. One has the best price on meat and vegetables. The other on general groceries. If I could go someplace else I would.)
Who knows. Maybe I'll get my ccw and start carrying a pistol in an elastic holster. And eventually feel like I'm naked without it.
Problem is you have to register one pistol for your ccw license. You're only allowed to carry that one. And all of my pistols came into the state prior to any registration laws. So I'd like to keep them off the books. Which means I'd have to buy a new pistol. And right now, with my wife as sick as she is (bedridden), I can't afford a new pistol. And I have a far greater need for a long gun. As I sent all of my ling guns out of state. Some time ago. To avoid all the crazy new gun laws here.
You can build an f'ed up california legal AR. That can then be easily converted back to a normal AR. Should there be a complete breakdown of society. Or an SKS. Or mini 14. The first is better long term. But the last two would be ready, as they are, for home defense. And I firmly believe shotguns are to limited. And to hard to operate in an adreniline filled situation. The above options are far more effective and usable.
But this is knife chat. Not long gun in california chat. Lol!
Regarding the Civivi Praxis, I figure as long as the heat treat is good, snapping the blade shouldn't happen unless I really abuse it.
Same goes for any other brand. If the heat treat sucks, it won't matter how thick or thin the blade is. We've seen this quite a few times on Forged in Fire (which doesn't seem to be on History Channel anymore for some reason. I think maybe they moved to their streaming service, which is dumb.).
There've been some blades that are super thick and have crappy heat treatment and subsequently snap in half. And there've been blades that are really thin that have had fantastic heat treatment and survived the harsh tests.
I think blade steel would also play a part in this as well.
I agree. But we are talking much thinner in most of the blade than .12. Like going from 0 at the edge to .12 only high up on the blade and in a tiny few mm area. Which is that timy ridgeline where the two grinds meet near the top.
Here's a pic.
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The large blade and grind make it look like a thick substantial knife. But its only .12 at the ridgeline about a quarter inch from the spine of the blade. The soine is griund down too. As you can see in the pic.
I would guess most of the knife is about half that or .06 of an inch. Quite thin. Especially for that large broad area of a knife. It feels like if you hit a rib or other hard surface it would snap. And snap rather than bent. I also can't tell you why it feels like it woukd snap. It just doesn't feel like bendable metal. But maybe its just the lack of spine. The grind on the soine looks cool. But substantially degrades the thickness at that point.
I've got a pair of Praxis' and I compared them to a couple other brands I own (a CRKT CEO, a Buck Inertia and an Ontario RAT-1) and the blade thickness is pretty close in thickness to all three.
I think the grind down the spine on the Praxis makes it appear like it's much thinner than it actually is. But I still see how it could snap if hitting bone or something.
Civivi makes a bunch of other models and maybe there's one with a thick enough spine and blade grind that won't snap.
Quote from: Moab on February 03, 2023, 12:02:21 PMWhen I open my flipper. My finger tips are on the knife handle. In order to access the flipper knob on the spine of the knife. My hand is not grasping the handle/knife. (Like it does with a stud ooening) After it opens. I have to then turn the handle slightly and grasp my hand around it.
I'm having trouble visualizing the issue here. With either method when I do it I only have a partial grip on the knife because I have to keep my fingers out of the blade path so it can pivot and open. The only difference (at least in how I grip it) is possibly the placement of the tip of my index finger.
Flipper:
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Are you and I using different grips?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 03, 2023, 12:57:09 PMI've got a pair of Praxis' and I compared them to a couple other brands I own (a CRKT CEO, a Buck Inertia and an Ontario RAT-1) and the blade thickness is pretty close in thickness to all three.
I think the grind down the spine on the Praxis makes it appear like it's much thinner than it actually is. But I still see how it could snap if hitting bone or something.
Civivi makes a bunch of other models and maybe there's one with a thick enough spine and blade grind that won't snap.
For $37 it was way better than the comparable Spyderco folder I bought. I like the thumb hole opening but the machining was so shitty its sharp in your thumb. Trying to train opening it was not comfortable. If I liked it enough I would pay to have that machined smooth. Its a corner they should not have cut. Unless all of them are like that. Idk.
I'm sure most of the other civivis are not like that. And again, I chose that style of grind. So alot of it is on me.
I'd have to look thru my knife wishlist again. But I still like the stupid little kershaw folder I got free with a bag of dogfood back in the 80s! Lmao! With the exception of the lack of an opener. It just has an old fashioned thumb slit. Its basically a buck folder with a rubber handle. I don't know why more modern foldrrs don't use rubber handles. It NEVER slips in my hand. Has an excellent piint for stabbing. And a large thick soine that goes down at least halfway thru the body of the blade. The cutting angle of the edge is nice. Its a perfect weight. Not to heavy. Not to light. So much to like. But the lack of easy opening kills it.
That al mar you oosted in on my list. As is the gerber fast draw. I have other automatics and full tangs.
I've seen some aftermarket thumbstuds on Amazon for like 15 or 20 bucks that'll let you easily open a knife like Kershaw you mentioned, Moab. I've seen folks use them on flipper only knives too.
I had a Gerber Gator folder when I was a kid and it had a nice rubber handle. Not sure what happened to it, but I have a feeling one of my brothers borrowed it without asking me and either lost it or forgot to give it back.
I'd like to get another one, but I probably wouldn't carry it. It'd be more of a nostalgia buy than something I'd actually use.
Quote from: NT2C on February 03, 2023, 01:35:40 PMQuote from: Moab on February 03, 2023, 12:02:21 PMWhen I open my flipper. My finger tips are on the knife handle. In order to access the flipper knob on the spine of the knife. My hand is not grasping the handle/knife. (Like it does with a stud ooening) After it opens. I have to then turn the handle slightly and grasp my hand around it.
I'm having trouble visualizing the issue here. With either method when I do it I only have a partial grip on the knife because I have to keep my fingers out of the blade path so it can pivot and open. The only difference (at least in how I grip it) is possibly the placement of the tip of my index finger.
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Are you and I using different grips?
This is the same thing I was talking about when I got my Zero Tolerance 0452CF flipper. The flipper opening action leaves your thumb on the side of the knife when the blade locks, and your index finger on the spine. So you have to turn it/adjust it in your hand after deploying the blade.
But for some reason with the thumbstud assisted open, when you push the stud your index finger is already in the right position and your thumb follows the blade and ends up mostly in place for a good grip, with little to no adjustments. Or I'm subconsciously making the adjustment simultaneously as the assisted open blade locks. At least in my experience. YMMV. i've got 14-16 years practicing with the thumbstuds, and only got my 'real' EDC flipper last year.
You can see in your photos that on the flipper your index finger is on the spine and is still back there when the blade locks. so you have to move it around to the side of the knife, rotate the knife in your hand and then get your thumb in the right position also.
This is my onehanded deploy and 2 different onehanded un-deploy methods on a thumbstud, framelock, assisted open.
I'm pretty sure I need this and that it would make a nice birthday gift. My birthday is at the end of August. :greenguy:
Terrain 365 Invictus Pocket Rocket Mini-Balisong Black DLC Terravantium Blade (https://www.pvk.vegas/Terrain-365-p/t365-bdlcmb.htm)
That's a nice knife.
Never been a fan of balisongs (mostly because I was never able to do any of the fancy flipping tricks), but that's a nice looking one.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 04, 2023, 12:45:44 PMThat's a nice knife.
Never been a fan of balisongs (mostly because I was never able to do any of the fancy flipping tricks), but that's a nice looking one.
Years ago in NYC I found a nice one in the window of the Hoffritz Cutlery store in Penn Station in NYC. Butterfly knives were and still are quite illegal in NYC so I really don't know how they managed to have one in the showroom window in such a public location but for $25 (in 1980ish money) I made it mine and I carried it until my house burned down in '99. I was never as good as some of the guys you see in SE Asia and Indonesia (never had any training), but I played around with it and got fairly able to keep from cutting anything vital off. I'm not sure I could manage it today with my arthritis and trigger fingers but damned if I don't want this little guy. :awesome:
That's a really pretty knife. Don't make me want a Balisong.
February sounds perfect to gift yourself an early birthday present, August is not that far away. :smiley_blink:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 04, 2023, 12:45:44 PMThat's a nice knife.
Never been a fan of balisongs (mostly because I was never able to do any of the fancy flipping tricks), but that's a nice looking one
I had a cheapo gas station butterfly knife when I was around 20 and I messed with it maybe a couple times before the mechanism gave out.
Which is actually surprising it took as long as it did because the handles were basically made of pot metal. And not even good pot metal like a Hi-Point is made of.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 04, 2023, 01:58:12 PM...not even good pot metal like a Hi-Point is made of.
:smiley_crocodile:
Quote from: NT2C on February 04, 2023, 02:26:32 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 04, 2023, 01:58:12 PM...not even good pot metal like a Hi-Point is made of.
:smiley_crocodile:
In defense of the Hi-Point, at least it'd still work after only a handful of times unlike the gas station balisong. :smiley_clap:
Ok. Fair warning. I didn't sleep well last night. Got up three times about an hour each. So rant mode is on! Lol! I'll try not to offend anyone. 😂
I just got presented with another California knife law chart. Which appeared to clearly define knife laws in CA. It also came from an app with gps permissions that claimed to show you real time if you were legally concealed carrying a knife. Its a pretty pipular from what appears to be a good source.
Only to find out that the app hadn't been updated in three years. Since 2020. And the reviews over the last three years were spotty at best.
You'd think there would be a legal precedent that made it unlawful for governments to apply laws that were so confusing no one could figure them out.
I have completely given up on this state for so long!
I still have my heart set on an ESEE Candiru with a horizontal carry sheath. But now I'm second guessing the law AGAIN.
Nice set up tho right? For a 2 inch fixed blade?
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Quote from: Moab on February 04, 2023, 04:41:16 PMYou'd think there would be a legal precedent that made it unlawful for governments to apply laws that were so confusing no one could figure them out.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.Knives are certainly arms.
All the BS laws in California are one more reason why I love my state.
In 2017 we got rid of the blade length limits (used to be limited to 5 inch and under fixed blades. Folders weren't subject to that.) and now you can carry pretty much anything in Texas.
You can even carry a friggin' Scottish claymore like a redneck William Wallace if you want. You might get stared at, especially in the urban centers like Austin, Dallas and Houston, and maybe get asked to leave whatever store you're in, but that's it.
Even stuff like brass knuckles and those collapsible batons like the cops use are legal for me to carry in Texas now.
I have one, but it's a piece of crap that collapses with the slightest movement and doesn't lock open like it's supposed to.
And that ESEE Candiru knife looks nice. A bit small for me, but I'm currently wanting one of their new ESEE-4's in CPM-S35VN stainless steel.
That's more sized for me. Now if they made one of their ESEE-5's in that steel, it'd be even better.
Quote from: NT2C on February 04, 2023, 04:48:00 PMQuote from: Moab on February 04, 2023, 04:41:16 PMYou'd think there would be a legal precedent that made it unlawful for governments to apply laws that were so confusing no one could figure them out.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Knives are certainly arms.
So f ing true. Thank you nt2c. So many of our young people were never taught why this is so important. They have no connection to how this country was founded. How we kept it. And by what means this is still true today. Look at almost all the countries with gun control? And how much their citizens are controlled?
Our democracy is bleeding. At an alarming rate.
And yes. Knives are certainly arms. And as the lesser to firearms. Should be the first things protected.
But our society has this major misconception that the tool is the killer. Not the disturbed individual that used it.
Or at least that is their excuse for disarming us all.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 04, 2023, 05:37:43 PMAll the BS laws in California are one more reason why I love my state.
In 2017 we got rid of the blade length limits (used to be limited to 5 inch and under fixed blades. Folders weren't subject to that.) and now you can carry pretty much anything in Texas.
You can even carry a friggin' Scottish claymore like a redneck William Wallace if you want. You might get stared at, especially in the urban centers like Austin, Dallas and Houston, and maybe get asked to leave whatever store you're in, but that's it.
Even stuff like brass knuckles and those collapsible batons like the cops use are legal for me to carry in Texas now.
I have one, but it's a piece of crap that collapses with the slightest movement and doesn't lock open like it's supposed to.
I have one of those batons too. I bought it or was given it when I lived in WA. And it was still legal to have in my car. It expands properly and is very tough. I would not want to hit someone with it. Unless I needed to kill someone in a very dire self defense situation. Because I don't think you could lightly tap someone with it. And I've always wondered how much force to someones head would be enough or to much. If you know what I mean? I think its a fine line with a heavy steel baton. But maybe I'm wrong.
I wonder if Ed Calderon teaches that in his self defense classes? He uses pig carcases to teach people knife fighting skills. I wonder if a pigs skull is similar enough to a humans?
Deep gory thoughts of a survivalist with a vivid imagination. Lol. Sorry for the dio into this rabbit hole. 😳
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 04, 2023, 05:40:16 PMAnd that ESEE Candiru knife looks nice. A bit small for me, but I'm currently wanting one of their new ESEE-4's in CPM-S35VN stainless steel.
That's more sized for me. Now if they made one of their ESEE-5's in that steel, it'd be even better.
If you get the ESEE4 get the HM. I have the esee5 and the esee4hm. I had the esee5 for a few years before I got the esee4hm. I got more ergonimic rounded scales for the esee5. And it made a huge difference in handling and working with the knife.
The esee4hm comes with ergonomic scales. But also with a curve in the handle that makes it 100 times more usable than a straight spined knife. The ergonomics of this can not be overestimated. Use a straight backed knife. Then use one with a good curve to it. And you'll see immediately why it handles cuts better in the hand. And will not tire your hand and wrist nearly as quick as a straight knife.
It also has a smaller handle and scales. Which fit the hand so much better for just about any skill you would want to master with a knife. And its still thick and strong enough that you would never need to worry about hurting it. I think it is .125 throughout the blade. Leaving just the bottom half or one third to taper down into the edge. This leaves you with a solid thickness thru alot of the blade. Unlike a full grind that goes up nearer the spine. If that makes sense?
I actually think the esee4hm is the perfect blade for bugging out, bushcraft, hunting, survival etc. Etc. Its weight is perfect. The esee5 although more bombproof at .25 thick is a bit on the heavy side for daily use, carry and all the intricate skills needed in the aforementioned uses. It is fine in the hand though. I can use it quite well. And would not stop to use it as my all around carry in a paw say. But the esee4hm does seem more versatile.
The esee4hm is neither to long. Nor to short. The grind is an easy one to maintain an edge on. I own a tanto. But don't get me started on how hard it is to sharpen a nontraditional blade profile. I can sharpen a tradition curved edge with a smooth rock. And that has to count for something.
Lastly, the esee4hm comes with just about everything you need at an affordable price. Knife, bombproof sheath, multiple carry options, micarta scales. You don't need to upgrade anything. Although I would not begrudge anyone that wanted to add a leather sheath for it. I find leather to be a very comfortable carry option. For a work knife.
I think the esee4hm is right kind of carbon steel and sharp soine edge for throwing sparks off a firesteel too. Although I prefer an attched piece of hacksaw blade. Rather than my knife.
This isn't to say there aren't dozens of other knives. That meet this criteria. For even less money. But most are straight backed. Which I think is a huge disadvantage in a daily use work knife and even self defense knife. You'll see even alot of the best self defense knives have a curve to their spine. It gives you alot if extra leverage.
My only grioe with ESEE knives is their engravings. They have some of the coolest engravings on their blades in the industry. The skull and crossed knives(?). The little fish on the Candiru. But all of them are only paint thick. And that paint wears off. And these awesome designs are lost forever.
Fortunately its very easy to make these lasting engravings. With pcb board etching acid. And the paint that already outlines these great designs. You can look up the process online.
But basically you use the markings already outlined with the painted template on the blade. You just apply the pcb acid to the markings. And it etches them down into the steel.
You have to use vaseline to make sure the acid does not run onto any exposed areas like the blade edge. But its a very easy process. I did it on my esee5. And it turned out great.
I don't even think the serial numbers are etched beyond the paint. My esee5 has one. I don't recall if all the other models do. But I etched that as well on my esee5. Look up pics on google and youll see esee blades with the oaint and all markings worn off. This is the only thing I wish they would change.
Lastly, they have a real lifetime warranty.
The ESEE-4 I was looking at comes with some blaze orange scales (not sure if they're G10 or dyed Micarta. More than likely they're G10) and they're butt ugly.
If I get one, I'll probably end up replacing the scales with something less bright. Maybe some flat dark earth G10 or micarta scales would work with the stainless finish on the blade.
And I'll look at the ESEE-4HM. That wasn't even on my radar, but it is now.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 05, 2023, 01:07:25 PMThe ESEE-4 I was looking at comes with some blaze orange scales (not sure if they're G10 or dyed Micarta. More than likely they're G10) and they're butt ugly.
If I get one, I'll probably end up replacing the scales with something less bright. Maybe some flat dark earth G10 or micarta scales would work with the stainless finish on the blade.
And I'll look at the ESEE-4HM. That wasn't even on my radar, but it is now.
Check out the knife connection. I've bought both mine from there. They seem to have the best prices and options. They also sell a large amount of aftermarket scales in both g10 and micarta. I bought contoured g10s for my esee5 originally. As micarta was not available then. But I want to get a set of the micarta tkc sells now.
I would strongly suggest you price out a complete knife kit in esee on tkc. You can get the esee4hm already with micarta scales, a good kydex sheath, and tech lok. For less than if you bought all that separate. I don't know if thats true of the regular esee4.
I'll check them out, Moab.
It'll likely be awhile until I can afford either blade, but that gives me plenty of time to research all my options.
Got my OKC RAT II today and color me... disenchanted.
A) It's far smaller than I expected it to be. Yeah, I knew it had a 3" blade, I just didn't expect the whole knife to be quite this tiny. I have other 3" blade knives and this is the smallest of all of them.
B) I can't flick it with the thumb studs. The knife is too small in my hand and the detent is too strong. Either it gets dropped or the blade barely moves. (and just sliced the tip of my thumb)
C) I did not expect it to be made in Taiwan. Silly me, I expected a USA-made knife from this USA company.
D) The edges on the spine of the blade are so sharp it took a chunk out of a finger. If I keep this I'll have to address that with a file and chamfer it.
I also got this fun little toy (https://a.co/82WrdS2) and I gotta say, if I can still type by the end of the week and have no missing digits it'll be something we need to notify the Pope about.
It's even smaller than the RAT II but at least it has a flipper. It's also oddly evocative of my CRKT LCK+ Large. Sorta like a "mini-me" version, especially with one of those #60 blades installed. I'm gonna go play with it; y'all can practice calling me "Lefty".
Quote from: NT2C on February 05, 2023, 07:32:48 PMI also got this fun little toy (https://a.co/82WrdS2) and I gotta say, if I can still type by the end of the week and have no missing digits it'll be something we need to notify the Pope about.
It's even smaller than the RAT II but at least it has a flipper. It's also oddly evocative of my CRKT LCK+ Large. Sorta like a "mini-me" version, especially with one of those #60 blades installed. I'm gonna go play with it; y'all can practice calling me "Lefty".
That looks alot like the better made chinese knock offs. I like the scales. How many blades and can u get more? I see ALOT of hunters ysing these now. I used to think they were for guys that disnt know how to sharpen a knife. But now even steve ranella uses them.
Quote from: NT2C on February 05, 2023, 07:23:53 PMGot my OKC RAT II today and color me... disenchanted.
A) It's far smaller than I expected it to be. Yeah, I knew it had a 3" blade, I just didn't expect the whole knife to be quite this tiny. I have other 3" blade knives and this is the smallest of all of them.
B) I can't flick it with the thumb studs. The knife is too small in my hand and the detent is too strong. Either it gets dropped or the blade barely moves. (and just sliced the tip of my thumb)
C) I did not expect it to be made in Taiwan. Silly me, I expected a USA-made knife from this USA company.
D) The edges on the spine of the blade are so sharp it took a chunk out of a finger. If I keep this I'll have to address that with a file and chamfer it.
Thats to bad. I wonder if the esee version is any better? Those are two lauded folders for inexpensive survival kit knives.
Quote from: NT2C on February 05, 2023, 07:23:53 PMGot my OKC RAT II today and color me... disenchanted.
A) It's far smaller than I expected it to be. Yeah, I knew it had a 3" blade, I just didn't expect the whole knife to be quite this tiny. I have other 3" blade knives and this is the smallest of all of them.
B) I can't flick it with the thumb studs. The knife is too small in my hand and the detent is too strong. Either it gets dropped or the blade barely moves. (and just sliced the tip of my thumb)
C) I did not expect it to be made in Taiwan. Silly me, I expected a USA-made knife from this USA company.
D) The edges on the spine of the blade are so sharp it took a chunk out of a finger. If I keep this I'll have to address that with a file and chamfer it.
You'd probably like the bigger RAT Model 1 folder that Ontario makes. It's made in Taiwan as well, but it's much bigger.
It's got a 3.6" blade with about a five inch handle with an overall length of 8.62". I've got three of them (scored a couple on clearance at Walmart a few years back.) and I like them since they fit my large hands almost perfectly.
My only gripe is the spines are too squared off. OKC should've rounded them off a bit more in my opinion.
Quote from: Moab on February 05, 2023, 08:11:22 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 05, 2023, 07:32:48 PMI also got this fun little toy (https://a.co/82WrdS2) and I gotta say, if I can still type by the end of the week and have no missing digits it'll be something we need to notify the Pope about.
It's even smaller than the RAT II but at least it has a flipper. It's also oddly evocative of my CRKT LCK+ Large. Sorta like a "mini-me" version, especially with one of those #60 blades installed. I'm gonna go play with it; y'all can practice calling me "Lefty".
That looks alot like the better made chinese knock offs. I like the scales. How many blades and can u get more? I see ALOT of hunters ysing these now. I used to think they were for guys that disnt know how to sharpen a knife. But now even steve ranella uses them.
Jim Shockey's been using one of the Havalon branded knives like this one for awhile.
I think his shows are sponsored by them.
Quote from: Moab on February 05, 2023, 08:11:22 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 05, 2023, 07:32:48 PMI also got this fun little toy (https://a.co/82WrdS2) and I gotta say, if I can still type by the end of the week and have no missing digits it'll be something we need to notify the Pope about.
It's even smaller than the RAT II but at least it has a flipper. It's also oddly evocative of my CRKT LCK+ Large. Sorta like a "mini-me" version, especially with one of those #60 blades installed. I'm gonna go play with it; y'all can practice calling me "Lefty".
That looks alot like the better made chinese knock offs. I like the scales. How many blades and can u get more? I see ALOT of hunters ysing these now. I used to think they were for guys that disnt know how to sharpen a knife. But now even steve ranella uses them.
It says, "...also can use #18 #19 #20 #21 #22 #22A #23 #24 #25 #36 scalpel blades if you like."
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51ZHmdvEwNL.jpg)
So, the whole bottom row of that chart.
Scales are G-10 and the rest is titanium
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 05, 2023, 08:42:51 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 05, 2023, 07:23:53 PMGot my OKC RAT II today and color me... disenchanted.
A) It's far smaller than I expected it to be. Yeah, I knew it had a 3" blade, I just didn't expect the whole knife to be quite this tiny. I have other 3" blade knives and this is the smallest of all of them.
B) I can't flick it with the thumb studs. The knife is too small in my hand and the detent is too strong. Either it gets dropped or the blade barely moves. (and just sliced the tip of my thumb)
C) I did not expect it to be made in Taiwan. Silly me, I expected a USA-made knife from this USA company.
D) The edges on the spine of the blade are so sharp it took a chunk out of a finger. If I keep this I'll have to address that with a file and chamfer it.
You'd probably like the bigger RAT Model 1 folder that Ontario makes. It's made in Taiwan as well, but it's much bigger.
It's got a 3.6" blade with about a five inch handle with an overall length of 8.62". I've got three of them (scored a couple on clearance at Walmart a few years back.) and I like them since they fit my large hands almost perfectly.
My only gripe is the spines are too squared off. OKC should've rounded them off a bit more in my opinion.
I think you're right, a RAT I would be a better choice for me but since it was going to be a carry knife and Virginia is a bit complex on their knife laws I wanted to limit myself to 3". I'll keep carrying my Olight Parrot or my Kershaw Seguin. Oh, and the sharp spine was apparently one of the specs for the knife, intended for using spark lighters in the field.
I guess that makes sense why the spine on the Ontario Rat II is sharp like that.
ETA: And the 3" and under blade length limit does help me a bit should I ever want to send you a knife, NT2C.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 05, 2023, 10:53:46 PMI guess that makes sense why the spine on the Ontario Rat II is sharp like that.
ETA: And the 3" and under blade length limit does help me a bit should I ever want to send you a knife, NT2C.
Virginia Knife Laws (https://www.akti.org/state-knife-laws/virginia/)
Just to show how much that scalpel blade holder resembles my CRKT LCK+ Large, I took pics of them side-by-side:
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The similarities between the CRKT LCK+ and the Amazon scalpel knife remind me of the Buck 877 Maverick and CRKT Fossil knives I've got.
Either the Buck Maverick looks like a small fixed blade version of the CRKT Fossil or the Fossil is a larger folding version of the Maverick.
Here's what I was talking about.
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Hold up this part right here
Critical Dimensions:
Less than three inches is the maximum length of a folding pocket knife which may be lawfully possessed on school grounds.
This is surprising to me.
Quote from: Rednex on February 06, 2023, 03:24:32 PMHold up this part right here
Critical Dimensions:
Less than three inches is the maximum length of a folding pocket knife which may be lawfully possessed on school grounds.
This is surprising to me.
Same here.
Here in Texas, it's illegal to carry a knife on school grounds no matter what size.
Quote from: Rednex on February 06, 2023, 03:24:32 PMHold up this part right here
Critical Dimensions:
Less than three inches is the maximum length of a folding pocket knife which may be lawfully possessed on school grounds.
This is surprising to me.
What jurisdiction? In California its even more restrictive. And possibly even more restrictive in LA.
Its literally like you need a knife law gps system with alarms in your phone.
NT2C The folding scalpel i had the same one in my cart for a while. I also have the S13 from same maker in the cart to. I aint guessed yet which one would feel better in the hands yet. The S13 more resembles your CRKT the more straighty handle. How's it feel in your hands?
We are allowed to wear knifes with a fixed blade up to 12cm. On the other hand one hand opening knifes with locking mechanisms are only allowed to be carried in a secure container regardless of the blade length.
So I'm allowed to openly carry my scandi with a 4 inch blade, but not my box cutter as it locks.
Schools can forbid knifes in their house laws; mine didn't. They did however rule out shoulder free tops and walking barefoot. :smilie_confused_dontknow:
My school had a zero tolerance policy for weapons, but the dress code was fairly lax.
I went to high school around the time dressing like Britney Spears in her "Hit Me Baby, One More Time" video was popular and I knew a few girls that would constantly be testing how short they could make their skirts before getting dinged for a dress code violation.
Apparently at my school, the dress code violations for skirts only kick in once you're seeing visible butt cheeks.
So you could wear a skirt that was basically a glorified belt and show off the bottom half of your ass, but having anything considered a weapon (which the definition of changed damn near every day) by the administration was a no no. :rolleyes1:
Quote from: Rednex on February 06, 2023, 03:24:32 PMHold up this part right here
Critical Dimensions:
Less than three inches is the maximum length of a folding pocket knife which may be lawfully possessed on school grounds.
This is surprising to me.
That's Virginia state law. Federal law is 2"
Quote from: Rednex on February 06, 2023, 03:24:32 PMHold up this part right here
Critical Dimensions:
Less than three inches is the maximum length of a folding pocket knife which may be lawfully possessed on school grounds.
This is surprising to me.
That's Virginia state law. Federal law is 2"
Quote from: Rednex on February 06, 2023, 04:05:34 PMNT2C The folding scalpel i had the same one in my cart for a while. I also have the S13 from same maker in the cart to. I aint guessed yet which one would feel better in the hands yet. The S13 more resembles your CRKT the more straighty handle. How's it feel in your hands?
Feels nice, comfortable.
So federal law is you can carry a knife with a 2" blade on school grounds ?
I'm probably misunderstanding that, which wouldn't be surprising knowing how my brain works.
Cool, I have a banana tree cutting sword.
Cracked me up when he mentioned them not needing to, "be strong enough to baton a cinderblock in half."
I think between this guy, Beez Blades and Zac in the Wild's videos in the past couple months, my wallet is going to hate me for all the knives I'm wanting.
And with a little digging over on Knife Center's site, I found out that Boker makes a leather EDC multitool/pen/flashlight sheath like what was posted in the Aliexpress thread Moab started.
The Boker one is like 50 bucks, though.
Sent in my Kershaw 1680 for warranty service (blade is not centered and drags opening) and sharpening. We'll see how fast the turn around is on this. I'm thinking I may get it back the end of April.
Something tells me you have plenty of backups to tide you over until then, NT2C. :smiley_knipoog:
Quote from: NT2C on February 10, 2023, 10:24:56 AMSent in my Kershaw 1680 for warranty service (blade is not centered and drags opening) and sharpening. We'll see how fast the turn around is on this. I'm thinking I may get it back the end of April.
I've had a few Kershaws that have blade centering issues and I always figured it was because they were the budget models from Walmart.
I was able to fix most of them myself by tightening the pivot pin a little and centering the blade that way. The ones that I wasnt able to center no matter what usually ended up getting sold or given away.
I also stopped buying Kershaw knives since it seemed like I was always getting one with some issue. Not sure if Kershaw had problems between 2011 to 2016, but it seemed like it to me.
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 10, 2023, 11:58:10 AMSomething tells me you have plenty of backups to tide you over until then, NT2C. :smiley_knipoog:
Why do you say that? Just because I got an Ontario Rat II in bone color (black blade) and an Ontario Rat I in all black just in today's mail? :icon_crazy: :awesome:
Edit: And the little bone bastard bit me! Sliced the ball of the thumb trying to flick it open.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 10, 2023, 12:04:56 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 10, 2023, 10:24:56 AMSent in my Kershaw 1680 for warranty service (blade is not centered and drags opening) and sharpening. We'll see how fast the turn around is on this. I'm thinking I may get it back the end of April.
I've had a few Kershaws that have blade centering issues and I always figured it was because they were the budget models from Walmart.
I was able to fix most of them myself by tightening the pivot pin a little and centering the blade that way. The ones that I wasnt able to center no matter what usually ended up getting sold or given away.
I also stopped buying Kershaw knives since it seemed like I was always getting one with some issue. Not sure if Kershaw had problems between 2011 to 2016, but it seemed like it to me.
All Kershaws have a lifetime warranty though, and free lifetime sharpening, even the cheap ones. And lately they've really stepped up their quality. The new Livewire OTF is definitely calling to me.
I actually did not know about the lifetime warranty. I figured their warranty was only on their more expensive US made knives and not the budget Chinese ones.
And I'm liking that Livewire OTF too. I've been looking at the Launch series as well.
Only OTF I own at the moment is a Smith and Wesson M&P one from Academy. And it's not even a real OTF, it's just a spring assisted one.
My favorite knife is a Kershaw from probably the late 80s. Stainless steel from Japan. I've spoken many times about it. It was so cheap it came free with a bag of dogfood. Ah. Gotta love the good ole days. When a weapon was like a cracker jack prize! Lol. But it is a very well made knife. And seen more use than any other I have.
I doubt any Kershaws are from Japan anymore. I had no idea about the lifetime warranty. That sounds like Zippo. I have sent literally dozens of zippos back to have them do incredible jobs fixing them and replacing internals for free. I used to collect them.
Taking my knock off benchmade bugout apart and replacing the scales amd various hardware was an education for me. I had no idea how customizable modern knives are. I'm going to do more of that in the future.
I still collect Zippos even though I don't smoke anymore (I quit smoking for good in 2011.) My oldest one is from the 50's and I picked it up at a local thrift store for like 5 bucks. I'd love to get a WW2 era Zippo, but those are pretty rare in my AO.
I think the only stuff Kershaw makes that's still made in Japan is their kitchen knives. Not sure if any of their pocket knives are made there, though.
I know Spyderco has some knives made in Japan, Taiwan and China (the three I have are all made in China.).
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 10, 2023, 01:56:08 PMI still collect Zippos even though I don't smoke anymore (I quit smoking for good in 2011.) My oldest one is from the 50's and I picked it up at a local thrift store for like 5 bucks. I'd love to get a WW2 era Zippo, but those are pretty rare in my AO.
I think the only stuff Kershaw makes that's still made in Japan is their kitchen knives. Not sure if any of their pocket knives are made there, though.
I know Spyderco has some knives made in Japan, Taiwan and China (the three I have are all made in China.).
I had a wwii crinkle zippo with a quatermasters emblem on it. I sold it for around $200 several years ago. Without internals. They are a part of our wartime and smoking history for sure. They are my favorite zippo.
Quote from: Moab on February 10, 2023, 02:52:02 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 10, 2023, 01:56:08 PMI still collect Zippos even though I don't smoke anymore (I quit smoking for good in 2011.) My oldest one is from the 50's and I picked it up at a local thrift store for like 5 bucks. I'd love to get a WW2 era Zippo, but those are pretty rare in my AO.
I think the only stuff Kershaw makes that's still made in Japan is their kitchen knives. Not sure if any of their pocket knives are made there, though.
I know Spyderco has some knives made in Japan, Taiwan and China (the three I have are all made in China.).
I had a wwii crinkle zippo with a quatermasters emblem on it. I sold it for around $200 several years ago. Without internals. They are a part of our wartime and smoking history for sure. They are my favorite zippo.
Neat.
I've seen quite a few Zippos in my AO with oilfield company logos on them, but it's pretty rare to find any military related ones.
Stopped at Walmart today and picked up a Gerber holiday knife set on clearance.
In the pack were two folding knives and a small multitool (it's less of a multitool like a Leatherman and more like a glorified mini prybar/bottle opener/keychain).
The first knife is an Air Ranger with a 7Cr17MoV stainless steel blade and an aluminum handle. The scales are nicely checkered and the whole thing is very light. It's probably the lightest knife I own right now.
Not sure where 7Cr17MoV steel is on the blade steel hierarchy, but the little I've read on it puts it about equal to AUS-6 steel. Which is another steel I have zero experience with. I've had knives in 8Cr13MoV and they're decent, so if the Gerber Air Ranger in 7Cr17MoV is similar, I'll be happy.
The only thing I don't like about it is the pocket clip is only a single position carry (right side, tip down carry only.) I'd much rather it be at least a two position carry (right side, tip down or right side, tip up carry), but I've used knives with single position carry clips before and it's not that big of a deal. Just a minor personal complaint.
Second knife is a mini Paraframe. The handle is stainless steel (probably something in the 440 series) and the blade is again 7Cr17MoV. I had a mini Paraframe before, but with a clip point blade instead of a tanto like this new one is.
It's a bit too small for me to carry as part of my EDC (I look like I borrowed Tom Thumb's pocket knife when I hold this thing :smiley_crocodile:), but it'll come in handy for opening letters or boxes.
The prybar/bottle opener/keychain thing (the package says it's called the Gerber "Shard") is just neat little extra that'll probably end up in my random stuff box on my bookshelf. I carry a Leatherman Wingman, so I don't really need to carry the "Shard" on my keychain.
I bought a Kershaw Camp 10 back in January for just under $45 and it did come with the lifetime warranty, though they specify that the lifetime warranty is only for the original owner. It also came with free lifetime sharpening.
According to Amazon, now that I'm checking it, the country of origin is now China. I didn't even think to check the packaging to see where it was from since I just assumed it hadn't changed. If I remember, I'll check tomorrow (it's in my bedroom and Mr. Anianna is already asleep).
Most of Kershaw's budget stuff is made in China from what I've found.
Not sure exactly when they moved production over there, but it's been awhile. When I started buying knives again in 2009, Kershaw was already making knives in China.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 17, 2023, 11:19:42 PMMost of Kershaw's budget stuff is made in China from what I've found.
Not sure exactly when they moved production over there, but it's been awhile. When I started buying knives again in 2009, Kershaw was already making knives in China.
China is producing some really good knives these days, in all price ranges.
My primary concern about China-made goods isn't the quality but how workers are often treated there. We can't really discuss that further here, so that's all I've got to say about that.
Quote from: NT2C on February 17, 2023, 11:25:02 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 17, 2023, 11:19:42 PMMost of Kershaw's budget stuff is made in China from what I've found.
Not sure exactly when they moved production over there, but it's been awhile. When I started buying knives again in 2009, Kershaw was already making knives in China.
China is producing some really good knives these days, in all price ranges.
Which I think is awesome.
Most of the knives I own are made in either China or Taiwan. I've got maybe six or seven that are made in the US.
ETA: I'm not quite sure exactly how many knives I've got that are made in the US, but I know it's not very many.
So I was in Harbor Freight yesterday and I noticed they had a Buck 119 clone made by a company called Gordon. The price was 24.99 and after using a 25% off coupon, I only paid 20 bucks for it.
It's a really close copy of the Buck 119, but with a few differences. Like the blade steel.
The Buck 119 uses 420HC steel heat treated by Paul Bos (who apparently is one of the best heat treatment guys in the industry) and the Gordon GK22 (that's the model name I was able find on the package) uses 7Cr17MoV steel.
A little Googling tells me that 7Cr17MoV steel is a decent steel comparable to AUS-6. It doesn't have the greatest longevity regarding edge holding, but it's easy to resharpen when it goes dull and will take a decent edge.
The sheath is nice too. Only thing is the belt loop could've been made a bit tougher. I'd have like to have seen them copy the thicker leather like Buck uses for their 119 sheath. If nothing else, I can always order a replacement 119 sheath from Buck and put the Gordon GK22 in it instead of using the sheath that came with it.
Or I can find a suitable aftermarket sheath that'll fit a knife with a 6" blade. If I can do either, I'll probably make this knife my new EDC fixed blade.
If I lose or break a 20 dollar Buck 119 clone I'm going to be sad, but not as sad as I would be if I lost or broke my 70 dollar Buck 119.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 25, 2023, 07:02:02 PMSo I was in Harbor Freight yesterday and I noticed they had a Buck 119 clone made by a company called Gordon. The price was 24.99 and after using a 25% off coupon, I only paid 20 bucks for it.
It's a really close copy of the Buck 119, but with a few differences. Like the blade steel.
The Buck 119 uses 420HC steel heat treated by Paul Bos (who apparently is one of the best heat treatment guys in the industry) and the Gordon GK22 (that's the model name I was able find on the package) uses 7Cr17MoV steel.
A little Googling tells me that 7Cr17MoV steel is a decent steel comparable to AUS-6. It doesn't have the greatest longevity regarding edge holding, but it's easy to resharpen when it goes dull and will take a decent edge.
The sheath is nice too. Only thing is the belt loop could've been made a bit tougher. I'd have like to have seen them copy the thicker leather like Buck uses for their 119 sheath. If nothing else, I can always order a replacement 119 sheath from Buck and put the Gordon GK22 in it instead of using the sheath that came with it.
Or I can find a suitable aftermarket sheath that'll fit a knife with a 6" blade. If I can do either, I'll probably make this knife my new EDC fixed blade.
If I lose or break a 20 dollar Buck 119 clone I'm going to be sad, but not as sad as I would be if I lost or broke my 70 dollar Buck 119.
Well, now I know what I'm buying next time I get to a harbor freight
It's a popular knife, JeeperCreeper, so you may have a little trouble finding one in stock.
I got lucky at my local Harbor Freight and snagged their last one. I went in for the GK22 and another Gordon knife (their 3.6" folding knife.),but they didn't have the other one so I just grabbed the GK22.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 25, 2023, 10:59:09 PMIt's a popular knife, JeeperCreeper, so you may have a little trouble finding one in stock.
I got lucky at my local Harbor Freight and snagged their last one. I went in for the GK22 and another Gordon knife (their 3.6" folding knife.),but they didn't have the other one so I just grabbed the GK22.
Sadly we don't have HF up here in AK, so I'll wait till I go home to PA. Or just order online. I ordered my pressure washer from them up here.
But I actually might check Amazon, I could go for a nice Bowie style beater knockoff.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on February 25, 2023, 11:01:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 25, 2023, 10:59:09 PMIt's a popular knife, JeeperCreeper, so you may have a little trouble finding one in stock.
I got lucky at my local Harbor Freight and snagged their last one. I went in for the GK22 and another Gordon knife (their 3.6" folding knife.),but they didn't have the other one so I just grabbed the GK22.
Sadly we don't have HF up here in AK, so I'll wait till I go home to PA. Or just order online. I ordered my pressure washer from them up here.
But I actually might check Amazon, I could go for a nice Bowie style beater knockoff.
You could order it from Harbor Freight's website. That might be easier than going into an actual HF store.
I ordered a table saw from them a couple years ago and amazingly the damned thing is still going strong. I think I paid maybe 80 bucks for it after using a 10% off coupon (not exactly sure how much I paid for it, but I know it was under 100 bucks).
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 25, 2023, 11:04:49 PMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on February 25, 2023, 11:01:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 25, 2023, 10:59:09 PMIt's a popular knife, JeeperCreeper, so you may have a little trouble finding one in stock.
I got lucky at my local Harbor Freight and snagged their last one. I went in for the GK22 and another Gordon knife (their 3.6" folding knife.),but they didn't have the other one so I just grabbed the GK22.
Sadly we don't have HF up here in AK, so I'll wait till I go home to PA. Or just order online. I ordered my pressure washer from them up here.
But I actually might check Amazon, I could go for a nice Bowie style beater knockoff.
You could order it from Harbor Freight's website. That might be easier than going into an actual HF store.
I ordered a table saw from them a couple years ago and amazingly the damned thing is still going strong. I think I paid maybe 80 bucks for it after using a 10% off coupon (not exactly sure how much I paid for it, but I know it was under 100 bucks).
Yeah I love HF. Their knockoff Honda small engine stuff is great. I might have to look for a generator now that we are talking about it.
When it comes to discount stuff, I miss HF and Ollie's, if you're familiar with that. Their home goods were great when I was broke.
But every time I look for a budget knife, I always end up back with a mora or cold steel
Never heard of Ollie's, but I've known about HF since I was a kid.
It's only been in the last 4 years that I've actually bought anything from them. And the only knives I knew they had were the Rambo style 'survival' knife and the machetes they sold.
I've actually got one of those machetes as well. Paid like 8 bucks for it and used it once or twice to knock down some ivy on a tree in the backyard of the previous house I lived in.
Is this the Mora killer? I think it might be. Stainless steel. Probably not as nice of steel as Mora. But its fulltang. $16.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-4-in-Tradesman-Fixed-Blade-Knife-48-22-1926/303409113#overlay
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The ultimate "gray man trench knife". Just needs a blue phone cord wrapped handle.
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Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 25, 2023, 11:14:47 PMNever heard of Ollie's, but I've known about HF since I was a kid.
It's only been in the last 4 years that I've actually bought anything from them. And the only knives I knew they had were the Rambo style 'survival' knife and the machetes they sold.
I've actually got one of those machetes as well. Paid like 8 bucks for it and used it once or twice to knock down some ivy on a tree in the backyard of the previous house I lived in.
I loved their rambo knives!!!! Guaranteed to rust, but guaranteed to do it in 80's glory!!
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on February 25, 2023, 11:50:04 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 25, 2023, 11:14:47 PMNever heard of Ollie's, but I've known about HF since I was a kid.
It's only been in the last 4 years that I've actually bought anything from them. And the only knives I knew they had were the Rambo style 'survival' knife and the machetes they sold.
I've actually got one of those machetes as well. Paid like 8 bucks for it and used it once or twice to knock down some ivy on a tree in the backyard of the previous house I lived in.
I loved their rambo knives!!!! Guaranteed to rust, but guaranteed to do it in 80's glory!!
I actually have one of those knives now. :smiley_crocodile:
My oldest brother owed me 30 bucks for a pair of scopes, so he traded me the HF Rambo knife and a couple others instead of paying me.
It doesn't have the sheath or the survival kit and it needed a good cleaning and a bit of red LocTite on the little set screw that holds the blade into the handle, though. It's probably the worst knife I own currently, but at least I didn't pay for it.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on February 25, 2023, 11:09:03 PMYeah I love HF. Their knockoff Honda small engine stuff is great. I might have to look for a generator now that we are talking about it.
When it comes to discount stuff, I miss HF and Ollie's, if you're familiar with that. Their home goods were great when I was broke.
But every time I look for a budget knife, I always end up back with a mora or cold steel
I live less than 5 miles from both a HF and an Ollie's (founding member of Ollie's Army) and I'm familiar with shipping stuff to Alaska (wife's family is from there originally) if you ever need anything ASAP.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on February 25, 2023, 11:48:58 PMThe ultimate "gray man trench knife". Just needs a blue phone cord wrapped handle.
Screenshot_20230225-204708.png (https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2125;type=preview;file)
I like Klenk's a little better. I have two, a Klenk's with a rosewood handle, and an Estwing with blue rubber (which is also very good). My wife keeps taking them to break down the heavy kitty litter boxes when she does the recycling.
https://a.co/d/6WsRgK0
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/4112LuKUc4L._AC_.jpg)
https://a.co/d/93altk9
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61TnMtZx0aL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Quote from: Moab on February 25, 2023, 11:42:53 PMIs this the Mora killer? I think it might be. Stainless steel. Probably not as nice of steel as Mora. But its fulltang. $16.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-4-in-Tradesman-Fixed-Blade-Knife-48-22-1926/303409113#overlay
I have a Milwaukee assisted opening "Fastback" folder that I found lying in the dirt somewhere. It's a solidly made, if unspectacular knife. That fix-blade looks interesting, but also seems like the kind of thing that'll eventually show up on clearance at some point.
Anyone else find it pretty much impossible to walk through an HD without scanning the aisles and endcaps for clearance items? My heart skips a beat whenever I glimpse those yellow clearance price stickers.
Clearance sales is how I ended up with three CRKT/Ruger Hollowpoint +P folding knives.
Local Walmart had a bunch of them in the clearance section and had them priced at 15 bucks a pop. I grabbed two of them initially and then bought a third the next day after I checked my receipt and found they were actually on sale for 7 bucks.
Had I known that, I'd have bought all six of them they had originally.
Ran across this at Menards yesterday
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Piqued my interest because of it's similarity to this
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Quote from: flybynight on February 26, 2023, 01:28:27 PMRan across this at Menards yesterday
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Piqued my interest because of it's similarity to this
(https://image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/Milestone/19/600719/H19536-L110190565.jpg)
How much was it? Model number?
The Menards one was $29,00
https://www.menards.com/main/outdoors/outdoor-recreation-sports/camping-rv-supplies/camping-accessories/gerber-reg-versafix-fixed-blade-machete-hybrid/31-003473/p-1571812182969-c-7834.htm?tid=ea264f8c-fdd3-439b-8367-4d0a8b63d0ce&ipos=16&exp=false
That's the one you were asking about right? The other one is a ww1 1918 Bolo knife . Originals go for 50 to 300 . Depending on condition . Although a company made first rate repoductions several years ago that went for $150.
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 26, 2023, 07:05:13 AMQuote from: Moab on February 25, 2023, 11:42:53 PMIs this the Mora killer? I think it might be. Stainless steel. Probably not as nice of steel as Mora. But its fulltang. $16.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-4-in-Tradesman-Fixed-Blade-Knife-48-22-1926/303409113#overlay
I have a Milwaukee assisted opening "Fastback" folder that I found lying in the dirt somewhere. It's a solidly made, if unspectacular knife. That fix-blade looks interesting, but also seems like the kind of thing that'll eventually show up on clearance at some point.
Anyone else find it pretty much impossible to walk through an HD without scanning the aisles and endcaps for clearance items? My heart skips a beat whenever I glimpse those yellow clearance price stickers.
I used to have that with Radio Shack. When I was a kid I was poor. Never had the right clothes. The right haircut. Etc. Etc. So when you went to the mall you didn't go into any of the cool stores. Because you were a nerd or a geek or whatever. The sales people were always hip and cool. And from the other side of town. So they treated you like shit.
But at Radio Shack they treated you like a person. Cause all the sales people were weirdos too. Lol. And they had the coolest shit anyway. :) I loved that place. Whenever I went to the mall I always hung out at Radio Shack.
When I moved from Seattle to LA in my late 20s. I drove most of PCH. And I stopped at every Radio Shack along the way. I took a picture of every weird but radically cool person that helped me in each store. And wrote a little bit about my experience. I still have that notebook. And those pictures.
But those red tags! Man. My heart would skip a beat everytime I saw one. Because it wasn't just a discount. It was like pennies on the dollar. A scanner antenna for .27 cents. Or a mini cassette recorder $2.61. They really marked stuff down. And before the days of ebay. You could find any cable, connector or electrical part you could think of.
When it changed into a cellphone store back in the 90s(?). It totally changed. It wasn't cool anymore. And you rarely saw those red stickers.
But ya. I feel ya, majorhavoc. Radio Shack with the red tags was it for me. :)
Quote from: flybynight on February 26, 2023, 01:45:05 PMThe Menards one was $29,00
https://www.menards.com/main/outdoors/outdoor-recreation-sports/camping-rv-supplies/camping-accessories/gerber-reg-versafix-fixed-blade-machete-hybrid/31-003473/p-1571812182969-c-7834.htm?tid=ea264f8c-fdd3-439b-8367-4d0a8b63d0ce&ipos=16&exp=false
That's the one you were asking about right? The other one is a ww1 1918 Bolo knife . Originals go for 50 to 300 . Depending on condition . Although a company made first rate repoductions several years ago that went for $150.
Oh ya. I know the bolo. Thats why I was asking about the menards one. Cool.
ima-usa.com sells real bolos quite often. If you want to see some cool sh*t. Sign up for their emails. They have to be the largest retailers of militaria from any historical war. Esoecially wwii.
Quote from: NT2C on February 26, 2023, 05:48:41 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on February 25, 2023, 11:48:58 PMThe ultimate "gray man trench knife". Just needs a blue phone cord wrapped handle.
Screenshot_20230225-204708.png (https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2125;type=preview;file)
I like Klenk's a little better. I have two, a Klenk's with a rosewood handle, and an Estwing with blue rubber (which is also very good). My wife keeps taking them to break down the heavy kitty litter boxes when she does the recycling.
https://a.co/d/6WsRgK0
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/4112LuKUc4L._AC_.jpg)
https://a.co/d/93altk9
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61TnMtZx0aL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Me likey that Estwing!!! Might have to check Lowe's this weekend
Quote from: NT2C on February 26, 2023, 05:44:10 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on February 25, 2023, 11:09:03 PMYeah I love HF. Their knockoff Honda small engine stuff is great. I might have to look for a generator now that we are talking about it.
When it comes to discount stuff, I miss HF and Ollie's, if you're familiar with that. Their home goods were great when I was broke.
But every time I look for a budget knife, I always end up back with a mora or cold steel
I live less than 5 miles from both a HF and an Ollie's (founding member of Ollie's Army) and I'm familiar with shipping stuff to Alaska (wife's family is from there originally) if you ever need anything ASAP.
I'm about to treat you like Amazon, good sir!!!
Haha just kidding, but I appreciate it. Sadly, shipping costs freaking ruin any good deals nowadays. If it doesn't ship for free, I don't need it sadly
Quote from: Moab on February 26, 2023, 01:48:40 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on February 26, 2023, 07:05:13 AMQuote from: Moab on February 25, 2023, 11:42:53 PMIs this the Mora killer? I think it might be. Stainless steel. Probably not as nice of steel as Mora. But its fulltang. $16.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-4-in-Tradesman-Fixed-Blade-Knife-48-22-1926/303409113#overlay
I have a Milwaukee assisted opening "Fastback" folder that I found lying in the dirt somewhere. It's a solidly made, if unspectacular knife. That fix-blade looks interesting, but also seems like the kind of thing that'll eventually show up on clearance at some point.
Anyone else find it pretty much impossible to walk through an HD without scanning the aisles and endcaps for clearance items? My heart skips a beat whenever I glimpse those yellow clearance price stickers.
I used to have that with Radio Shack. When I was a kid I was poor. Never had the right clothes. The right haircut. Etc. Etc. So when you went to the mall you didn't go into any of the cool stores. Because you were a nerd or a geek or whatever. The sales people were always hip and cool. And from the other side of town. So they treated you like shit.
But at Radio Shack they treated you like a person. Cause all the sales people were weirdos too. Lol. And they had the coolest shit anyway. :) I loved that place. Whenever I went to the mall I always hung out at Radio Shack.
When I moved from Seattle to LA in my late 20s. I drove most of PCH. And I stopped at every Radio Shack along the way. I took a picture of every weird but radically cool person that helped me in each store. And wrote a little bit about my experience. I still have that notebook. And those pictures.
But those red tags! Man. My heart would skip a beat everytime I saw one. Because it wasn't just a discount. It was like pennies on the dollar. A scanner antenna for .27 cents. Or a mini cassette recorder $2.61. They really marked stuff down. And before the days of ebay. You could find any cable, connector or electrical part you could think of.
When it changed into a cellphone store back in the 90s(?). It totally changed. It wasn't cool anymore. And you rarely saw those red stickers.
But ya. I feel ya, majorhavoc. Radio Shack with the red tags was it for me. :)
I missed the days of Radio Shack being the place for Maverick inventors.
Growing up, it was a place to get cords for random phones and accessories for the house.
My father in law, a computer nerd that ran his own custom built PC business in the 80's and 90's would talk about all the stuff he and his brothers built from radio shack.
Circuit boards, soldering, making Frankenstein devices for a single purpose. Cool stuff. And the people that worked there knew their stuff too... Not the usual minimum wage retail register jockey.
Makes me think of "Bob Newby, Superhero" from Stranger Things.
As a closet nerd growing up, I'm glad nerd stuff is getting more mainstream and cool.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on February 26, 2023, 02:01:50 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 26, 2023, 05:48:41 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on February 25, 2023, 11:48:58 PMThe ultimate "gray man trench knife". Just needs a blue phone cord wrapped handle.
Screenshot_20230225-204708.png (https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2125;type=preview;file)
I like Klenk's a little better. I have two, a Klenk's with a rosewood handle, and an Estwing with blue rubber (which is also very good). My wife keeps taking them to break down the heavy kitty litter boxes when she does the recycling.
https://a.co/d/6WsRgK0
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/4112LuKUc4L._AC_.jpg)
https://a.co/d/93altk9
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61TnMtZx0aL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Me likey that Estwing!!! Might have to check Lowe's this weekend
Amazon has it. Link is above the pic.
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Those Estwing knives must've gone quick because I clicked the link earlier and there was 20 in stock. :eek1:
Only thing Estwing I own is one of their tomahawks and that was an impulse buy (local heavy equipment rental/tool shop had them and I bought myself one and one for my brother.).
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on February 26, 2023, 02:15:57 PM[url="https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2133;type=preview;file"]Screenshot_20230226-111421.png[/url]
PM me your mailing address
Only thing I don't like about those Estwing and other knives is the sheath.
They may be good sheaths, but they just look kind of cheap to me.
Though it probably wouldn't be hard to find a nice leather sheath for one.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on February 26, 2023, 02:15:57 PMScreenshot_20230226-111421.png (https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2133;type=preview;file)
Why, to torment
you, Jeeper. Obviously. :greenguy:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 26, 2023, 02:52:11 PMOnly thing I don't like about those Estwing and other knives is the sheath.
They may be good sheaths, but they just look kind of cheap to me.
Though it probably wouldn't be hard to find a nice leather sheath for one.
The Estwing sheath is like a heavy duty Morakniv sheath. The one on the Klenks is heavy nylon webbing. You're not wearing either out very quickly.
Quote from: NT2C on February 26, 2023, 03:25:44 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 26, 2023, 02:52:11 PMOnly thing I don't like about those Estwing and other knives is the sheath.
They may be good sheaths, but they just look kind of cheap to me.
Though it probably wouldn't be hard to find a nice leather sheath for one.
The Estwing sheath is like a heavy duty Morakniv sheath. The one on the Klenks is heavy nylon webbing. You're not wearing either out very quickly.
That's good to know.
I guess I've got another couple knives to look for whenever I go to Lowes or Home Depot now.
That Estwing would probably be illegal here in Michigan, which doesn't allow double edges blades. Cool looking though.
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 26, 2023, 03:51:26 PMThat Estwing would probably be illegal here in Michigan, which doesn't allow double edges blades. Cool looking though.
It's a tool, not a blade. :smiley_knipoog:
This is what I see. Says 20 in stock
Screenshot_20230226_190016_Amazon Shopping.jpg
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on February 26, 2023, 02:08:26 PMQuote from: Moab on February 26, 2023, 01:48:40 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on February 26, 2023, 07:05:13 AMQuote from: Moab on February 25, 2023, 11:42:53 PMIs this the Mora killer? I think it might be. Stainless steel. Probably not as nice of steel as Mora. But its fulltang. $16.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-4-in-Tradesman-Fixed-Blade-Knife-48-22-1926/303409113#overlay
I have a Milwaukee assisted opening "Fastback" folder that I found lying in the dirt somewhere. It's a solidly made, if unspectacular knife. That fix-blade looks interesting, but also seems like the kind of thing that'll eventually show up on clearance at some point.
Anyone else find it pretty much impossible to walk through an HD without scanning the aisles and endcaps for clearance items? My heart skips a beat whenever I glimpse those yellow clearance price stickers.
I used to have that with Radio Shack. When I was a kid I was poor. Never had the right clothes. The right haircut. Etc. Etc. So when you went to the mall you didn't go into any of the cool stores. Because you were a nerd or a geek or whatever. The sales people were always hip and cool. And from the other side of town. So they treated you like shit.
But at Radio Shack they treated you like a person. Cause all the sales people were weirdos too. Lol. And they had the coolest shit anyway. :) I loved that place. Whenever I went to the mall I always hung out at Radio Shack.
When I moved from Seattle to LA in my late 20s. I drove most of PCH. And I stopped at every Radio Shack along the way. I took a picture of every weird but radically cool person that helped me in each store. And wrote a little bit about my experience. I still have that notebook. And those pictures.
But those red tags! Man. My heart would skip a beat everytime I saw one. Because it wasn't just a discount. It was like pennies on the dollar. A scanner antenna for .27 cents. Or a mini cassette recorder $2.61. They really marked stuff down. And before the days of ebay. You could find any cable, connector or electrical part you could think of.
When it changed into a cellphone store back in the 90s(?). It totally changed. It wasn't cool anymore. And you rarely saw those red stickers.
But ya. I feel ya, majorhavoc. Radio Shack with the red tags was it for me. :)
I missed the days of Radio Shack being the place for Maverick inventors.
Growing up, it was a place to get cords for random phones and accessories for the house.
My father in law, a computer nerd that ran his own custom built PC business in the 80's and 90's would talk about all the stuff he and his brothers built from radio shack.
Circuit boards, soldering, making Frankenstein devices for a single purpose. Cool stuff. And the people that worked there knew their stuff too... Not the usual minimum wage retail register jockey.
Makes me think of "Bob Newby, Superhero" from Stranger Things.
As a closet nerd growing up, I'm glad nerd stuff is getting more mainstream and cool.
The workers were legit. And alot of radio controlled airplane guys hung out there. Built stuff and flew their planes on the edge of town. There was like a park just for radio controlled hobbys. This was in the 70s. Who knew it would become high tech drones.
For you Estwing lovers:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rEmmIaT2L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
https://a.co/d/7xNDPSe
Quote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 03:42:04 PMFor you Estwing lovers:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rEmmIaT2L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
https://a.co/d/7xNDPSe
I know what I'm ordering next payday. :smiley_clap:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 27, 2023, 03:52:47 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 03:42:04 PMFor you Estwing lovers:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rEmmIaT2L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
https://a.co/d/7xNDPSe
I know what I'm ordering next payday. :smiley_clap:
I think we should send a dozen of them to Ukraine.
Quote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 03:54:41 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 27, 2023, 03:52:47 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 03:42:04 PMFor you Estwing lovers:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rEmmIaT2L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
https://a.co/d/7xNDPSe
I know what I'm ordering next payday. :smiley_clap:
I think we should send a dozen of them to Ukraine.
I just now noticed the Estwing knife is in the Ukrainian flag colors.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 27, 2023, 03:58:32 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 03:54:41 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 27, 2023, 03:52:47 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 03:42:04 PMFor you Estwing lovers:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rEmmIaT2L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
https://a.co/d/7xNDPSe
I know what I'm ordering next payday. :smiley_clap:
I think we should send a dozen of them to Ukraine.
I just now noticed the Estwing knife is in the Ukrainian flag colors.
Make it their official commando knife
I have an Estwing folder with AUS steel (can't remember number) that I got for like $8. Great buy for the shop
I didn't know Estwing made folders. I've only ever seen their tomahawks, axes and now the fixed blades that NT2C linked to.
Okay, call me crazy but... I'd love to start a member fundraiser to send a dozen of those tantos or even the duct knives directly to President Zelensky with our compliments and hopes that they will be useful in their struggles.
Quote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 06:32:35 PMOkay, call me crazy but... I'd love to start a member fundraiser to send a dozen of those tantos or even the duct knives directly to President Zelensky with our compliments and hopes that they will be useful in their struggles.
That sounds like a good idea, NT2C.
Might be cool to see a pic of some Ukrainian soldier with one of those Estwing tantos on their belt and be able to go "Hey, we sent those to Ukraine." :smiley_clap:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 27, 2023, 06:59:21 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 06:32:35 PMOkay, call me crazy but... I'd love to start a member fundraiser to send a dozen of those tantos or even the duct knives directly to President Zelensky with our compliments and hopes that they will be useful in their struggles.
That sounds like a good idea, NT2C.
Might be cool to see a pic of some Ukrainian soldier with one of those Estwing tantos on their belt and be able to go "Hey, we sent those to Ukraine." :smiley_clap:
Or stuck in Zelensky's belt as he signs the treaty after Russia surrenders.
Quote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 07:10:06 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 27, 2023, 06:59:21 PMQuote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 06:32:35 PMOkay, call me crazy but... I'd love to start a member fundraiser to send a dozen of those tantos or even the duct knives directly to President Zelensky with our compliments and hopes that they will be useful in their struggles.
That sounds like a good idea, NT2C.
Might be cool to see a pic of some Ukrainian soldier with one of those Estwing tantos on their belt and be able to go "Hey, we sent those to Ukraine." :smiley_clap:
Or stuck in Zelensky's belt as he signs the treaty after Russia surrenders.
That would be awesome as well.
Quote from: NT2C on February 27, 2023, 06:32:35 PMOkay, call me crazy but... I'd love to start a member fundraiser to send a dozen of those tantos or even the duct knives directly to President Zelensky with our compliments and hopes that they will be useful in their struggles.
I was going to make a comment about tax dollars being sent but I don't want to stray into politics so I won't say it.
I vote we just take a collection to sponsor one of those Ukranian drone genades inscribed with the message:
"Best regards to you and yours, Comrade Putin. Love and kisses, UFOZS."
Quote from: majorhavoc on February 27, 2023, 08:18:18 PMI vote we just take a collection to sponsor one of those Ukranian drone genades inscribed with the message:
"Best regards to you and yours, Comrade Putin. Love and kisses, UFOZS."
Yeah, but the knives would be cheaper and be useful more than once.
Well I did my part to fight Russian aggression. My BPS Knives Bs1FTS arrived yesterday :smiley_clap:
Picked up a Gerber Suspension NXT multi-tool today at Walmart.
The pivot pins are a bit tight and the tools feel a bit gritty when you open them, but I figure they'll break in over time. Or I'll try to clean it and see if that helps.
One thing that I dislike is the pocket clip. It just feels like it'll snap pretty easily, so I'll probably end removing it at some point.
There's also some sharp edges on the handles, but I can always hit them with a fine file or some fine grit sandpaper to smooth them down.
Overall, it's a decent tool, but I doubt it'll replace my Leatherman Wingman as my EDC tool.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 01, 2023, 07:02:56 PMPicked up a Gerber Suspension NXT multi-tool today at Walmart.
The pivot pins are a bit tight and the tools feel a bit gritty when you open them, but I figure they'll break in over time. Or I'll try to clean it and see if that helps.
One thing that I dislike is the pocket clip. It just feels like it'll snap pretty easily, so I'll probably end removing it at some point.
There's also some sharp edges on the handles, but I can always hit them with a fine file or some fine grit sandpaper to smooth them down.
Overall, it's a decent tool, but I doubt it'll replace my Leatherman Wingman as my EDC tool.
I have both the original Gerber Suspension and the Suspension NXT. I think the original Suspension is a better tool although I'd have to dig them both out to remember exactly why I have that impression.
And I agree, neither can hold a candle to a Leatherman Wingman; a seriously underrated value-priced multi-tool.
Seems like the only differences between the NXT and original Suspension is the handle construction and that the original Suspension comes with a belt pouch instead of a pocket clip like the NXT.
Speaking of which, I took the pocket clip off mine and it feels a lot better in my hands. The clip now sits in the box and I'm probably never going to put it back on my NXT.
If the clip was better constructed, I'd probably have left it on instead of removing it.
I bought a thing because I saw it and thought it was cute and silly.
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Forgive my dirty thumbnail, I just did a deep clean of the dryer vent and some stubborn bits are going to need a toothbrush to get off.
This little knife is 1 1/8" long closed with a 1" blade. 😂
I got it for a laugh, but the blade is actually sharp and looks like it might be decent for use.
That's got to be the cutest knife ever! :smiley_clap:
Quote from: EBuff75 on March 01, 2023, 10:11:50 PMThat's got to be the cutest knife ever! :smiley_clap:
Cuter than my pink Kershaw Chive? Never!
Smallest knife I own is a small Kershaw I got in one of those multi packs Walmart sells around the holidays.
The whole thing is maybe a couple inches long. Blade length is about an inch I'd guess.
Quote from: NT2C on March 01, 2023, 10:14:24 PMQuote from: EBuff75 on March 01, 2023, 10:11:50 PMThat's got to be the cutest knife ever! :smiley_clap:
Cuter than my pink Kershaw Chive? Never!
The Chive is like half an inch or so bigger than this thing. This is like the Chive's baby cousin. 😂
Quote from: Anianna on March 01, 2023, 10:27:02 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 01, 2023, 10:14:24 PMQuote from: EBuff75 on March 01, 2023, 10:11:50 PMThat's got to be the cutest knife ever! :smiley_clap:
Cuter than my pink Kershaw Chive? Never!
The Chive is like half an inch or so bigger than this thing. This is like the Chive's baby cousin. 😂
But I wear it on my suspenders. Top that!
Not as cute, but best little knife I've ever owned. Gerber zipper fob knife. Cut the zipper tag off, thread into keychain. Perfection.Screenshot_20230301-194854~2.png
Found the smallest knives I own. I was wrong about the dimensions, though. The blades are the 2 inches and the overall length is 5 inches.
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One on the left is the Kershaw I mentioned in my previous post and the one on the right is a Gerber Mini Paraframe I got in a two pack from Walmart with a Gerber Air Ranger folder.
Look what I got in the mail today. :smiley_clap:
My Swiss-Tech 'Gerundet' folding knife came in and it is awesome.
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ETA: I've also got one of their 'Wurdig' folders headed my way as well. That one will probably be here tomorrow if the delivery estimate is correct.
Okay
@Anianna top this!
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Quote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 04:25:57 PMOkay @Anianna top this!
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Omfg :smiley_hearteyes:
Link please!
Quote from: tirls on March 02, 2023, 04:32:25 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 04:25:57 PMOkay @Anianna top this!
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Omfg :smiley_hearteyes:
Link please!
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Unless you want one even smaller that comes with a phallus and testicles?
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And yet despite the really small size, it'd still probably be confiscated by the TSA as a "prohibited weapon". :gonk:
And I've noticed that a lot of these super tiny knives are slip joints. I'd love to see a tiny liner lock or frame lock knife.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 04:40:05 PMAnd yet despite the really small size, it'd still probably be confiscated by the TSA as a "prohibited weapon". :gonk:
And I've noticed that a lot of these super tiny knives are slip joints. I'd love to see a tiny liner lock or frame lock knife.
If it's one hand opening that would make it illegal to carry here. :smiley_crocodile:
The Bestech Tulip is along those lines.
Quote from: tirls on March 02, 2023, 04:46:34 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 04:40:05 PMAnd yet despite the really small size, it'd still probably be confiscated by the TSA as a "prohibited weapon". :gonk:
And I've noticed that a lot of these super tiny knives are slip joints. I'd love to see a tiny liner lock or frame lock knife.
If it's one hand opening that would make it illegal to carry here. :smiley_crocodile:
The Bestech Tulip is along those lines.
Most of my knives would be illegal in Europe then. :smiley_crocodile:
Yea, I think that one may be a a couple mm smaller. 😂
Those are some ratty-ass looking genitals. 0.o
Quote from: Anianna on March 02, 2023, 05:13:51 PMYea, I think that one may be a a couple mm smaller. 😂
Those are some ratty-ass looking genitals. 0.o
It's a misshapen potted cactus and you won't convince me otherwise.
Quote from: tirls on March 02, 2023, 05:43:08 PMQuote from: Anianna on March 02, 2023, 05:13:51 PMYea, I think that one may be a a couple mm smaller. 😂
Those are some ratty-ass looking genitals. 0.o
It's a misshapen potted cactus and you won't convince me otherwise.
That's a ratty-ass looking misshapen cactus. 🤣
If your junk looks like that, you probably need to see a doctor because I'm pretty sure they ain't supposed to look like that. :eek1:
I think we need a 'cute kit' thread. Because some of this shit is fucking adorable. Mouse guns, anyone?
Quote from: tirls on March 02, 2023, 04:46:34 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 04:40:05 PMAnd yet despite the really small size, it'd still probably be confiscated by the TSA as a "prohibited weapon". :gonk:
And I've noticed that a lot of these super tiny knives are slip joints. I'd love to see a tiny liner lock or frame lock knife.
If it's one hand opening that would make it illegal to carry here. :smiley_crocodile:
The Bestech Tulip is along those lines.
What if one hand is all you have?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 06:00:04 PMIf your junk looks like that, you probably need to see a doctor because I'm pretty sure they ain't supposed to look like that. :eek1:
If your genitals look like that
cast in brass you're doing good.
Quote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 07:02:04 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 06:00:04 PMIf your junk looks like that, you probably need to see a doctor because I'm pretty sure they ain't supposed to look like that. :eek1:
If your genitals look like that cast in brass you're doing good.
Good point.
Quote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 06:58:50 PMQuote from: tirls on March 02, 2023, 04:46:34 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 04:40:05 PMAnd yet despite the really small size, it'd still probably be confiscated by the TSA as a "prohibited weapon". :gonk:
And I've noticed that a lot of these super tiny knives are slip joints. I'd love to see a tiny liner lock or frame lock knife.
If it's one hand opening that would make it illegal to carry here. :smiley_crocodile:
The Bestech Tulip is along those lines.
What if one hand is all you have?
You know I've never actually thought about that and now I will be constantly thinking about that whenever I recommend knives.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:07:56 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 06:58:50 PMQuote from: tirls on March 02, 2023, 04:46:34 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 04:40:05 PMAnd yet despite the really small size, it'd still probably be confiscated by the TSA as a "prohibited weapon". :gonk:
And I've noticed that a lot of these super tiny knives are slip joints. I'd love to see a tiny liner lock or frame lock knife.
If it's one hand opening that would make it illegal to carry here. :smiley_crocodile:
The Bestech Tulip is along those lines.
What if one hand is all you have?
You know I've never actually thought about that and now I will be constantly thinking about that whenever I recommend knives.
Well, anyone who ever carried and used a "007 knife (http://themartialist.net/the-007-knife-infamous-1970s-lockback/)" in NYC during the 60s-80s can flick open anything short of a Swiss Army knife. It's all in the wrist.
I've actually never heard of the 007 knife, but now I kind of want one even though it's probably not the best knife out there.
I just like collecting knives even if they're not the most useful.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:19:07 PMI've actually never heard of the 007 knife, but now I kind of want one even though it's probably not the best knife out there.
I just like collecting knives even if they're not the most useful.
I had, used, lost a few of them in my wilder younger days. They were junk by my standards of today, but as a punk kid back then, they were...security. The CCW of my youth. You had to be good at flicking it though, and it had to have a shaving edge.
The 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
ETA: Did a quick Google search on those 007 knives and apparently they're going for like 60 bucks now whenever one pops up for sale. :eek1:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
Old Hickory is made by OKC, and OKC has done folders like the RAT I and II
Quote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 07:49:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
Old Hickory is made by OKC, and OKC has done folders like the RAT I and II
I forgot that. :gonk:
Didn't Old Hickory used to be a stand alone brand or am I remembering things wrong again ?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:53:54 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 07:49:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
Old Hickory is made by OKC, and OKC has done folders like the RAT I and II
I forgot that. :gonk:
Didn't Old Hickory used to be a stand alone brand or am I remembering things wrong again ?
Nope, OKC has owned the brand since it was introduced.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:53:54 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 07:49:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
Old Hickory is made by OKC, and OKC has done folders like the RAT I and II
I forgot that. :gonk:
Didn't Old Hickory used to be a stand alone brand or am I remembering things wrong again ?
I would have thought that too.
Here's a deal I thought I would share. I'll post it to bargains too.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1023784649
I've got this weird superstition about Cold Steel knives (long story and I won't bore y'all with the details), but that's a pretty good deal.
I think each of those goes for more than 55 bucks by themselves, so to get them both for that price is pretty good.
Quote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 07:59:43 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:53:54 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 07:49:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
Old Hickory is made by OKC, and OKC has done folders like the RAT I and II
I forgot that. :gonk:
Didn't Old Hickory used to be a stand alone brand or am I remembering things wrong again ?
Nope, OKC has owned the brand since it was introduced.
Well, crap. Looks like I was remembering things wrong again. I could've sworn Old Hickory was a stand alone brand.
Quote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 06:58:50 PMQuote from: tirls on March 02, 2023, 04:46:34 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 04:40:05 PMAnd yet despite the really small size, it'd still probably be confiscated by the TSA as a "prohibited weapon". :gonk:
And I've noticed that a lot of these super tiny knives are slip joints. I'd love to see a tiny liner lock or frame lock knife.
If it's one hand opening that would make it illegal to carry here. :smiley_crocodile:
The Bestech Tulip is along those lines.
What if one hand is all you have?
Fixed blade?
Quote from: NT2C on March 02, 2023, 07:44:45 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:19:07 PMI've actually never heard of the 007 knife, but now I kind of want one even though it's probably not the best knife out there.
I just like collecting knives even if they're not the most useful.
I had, used, lost a few of them in my wilder younger days. They were junk by my standards of today, but as a punk kid back then, they were...security. The CCW of my youth. You had to be good at flicking it though, and it had to have a shaving edge.
Yep, I cut my teeth on a Khyber lockback, Buck 110, and this no-name lockback. Practiced all the time doing speed opens, and there were no thumbstuds, flippers levers, or nail picks to help open them it was all practice and technic.
I just saw this type of knife the other day; that instead of a flipper its got a 'pocket catch' [wave open] so just taking it out of your pocket opens the blade.
I can't even keep up with the innovation. [I get all my news and tech info from UFoZS :rolleyes1: ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLWZtY0NUco
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
ETA: Did a quick Google search on those 007 knives and apparently they're going for like 60 bucks now whenever one pops up for sale. :eek1:
I've got a hefty bid on one on eBay. If I win I'll probably send it to you. :greenguy:
Quote from: NT2C on March 03, 2023, 08:24:25 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
ETA: Did a quick Google search on those 007 knives and apparently they're going for like 60 bucks now whenever one pops up for sale. :eek1:
I've got a hefty bid on one on eBay. If I win I'll probably send it to you. :greenguy:
Neat. :smiley_clap:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 03, 2023, 02:55:03 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 03, 2023, 08:24:25 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
ETA: Did a quick Google search on those 007 knives and apparently they're going for like 60 bucks now whenever one pops up for sale. :eek1:
I've got a hefty bid on one on eBay. If I win I'll probably send it to you. :greenguy:
Neat. :smiley_clap:
And outbid. :gonk:
Quote from: NT2C on March 03, 2023, 03:28:03 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 03, 2023, 02:55:03 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 03, 2023, 08:24:25 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 02, 2023, 07:46:27 PMThe 007 knife kind of looks like if Old Hickory made a folding knife. Which I don't think they ever did.
All I've ever seen from them is fixed blades.
ETA: Did a quick Google search on those 007 knives and apparently they're going for like 60 bucks now whenever one pops up for sale. :eek1:
I've got a hefty bid on one on eBay. If I win I'll probably send it to you. :greenguy:
Neat. :smiley_clap:
And outbid. :gonk:
That sucks.
There'll probably be another listing at some point, I bet.
I stopped by a local yard sale today and bought a nice leather knife sheath.
I thought I had a knife that'd work with it, but I was wrong. The knife fits, but it's not very secure.
So it looks like my next item to look for at yard sales is a suitable fixed blade to fit this sheath.
I swapped out the #60 scalpel blade in my scalpel flipper for a new #36. Damn, that #36 blade is no joke! :eek1:
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Forgot to mention earlier that I got my Swiss-Tech 'Wurdig' folder in yesterday.
This thing is deceptively light. So light in fact, that I had it in my pocket when I went to take a nap yesterday and I completely forgot about it. I didn't realize until afterwards that I still had it in my pocket.
It opens easily and has a flipper tab in addition to the thumb disc (it's less like a thumb stud like on most knives and more like a little disc shaped tab.). It also closes really easy after you depress the liner lock.
The canvas micarta scales are kind of slick, but not too bad. There's another version of the 'Wurdig' that has coarse G10 scales and I think that one might be my next purchase so I can try it out.
Unlike the 'Gerundet', the 'Wurdig' has a reversible pocket clip (left side tip up carry or right side tip up carry only).
Overall, I like both the 'Gerundet' and the 'Wurdig'. I'd say they're not bad buys for 30 bucks a pop.
I'm hoping Walmart will get more of the 'Stalhern' fixed blades in stock soon because I want to try one of those out next.
Hey Chimp got an email this morning from Woot.com the amazon clearance site. They have a bunch of different style SwissTech knives cheap. So if Walmart aint got them look there.
Quote from: Rednex on March 05, 2023, 08:34:27 AMHey Chimp got an email this morning from Woot.com the amazon clearance site. They have a bunch of different style SwissTech knives cheap. So if Walmart aint got them look there.
Thanks, Rednex. I'll check them out.
Ok so I been using a Swiza brand DO4 swiss army knife for a yearish . The little i checked in on them was Knife center YouTube, been around about as long as Victorinox just not a famous. It is reminiscent of the Victorinox Tinker, but it has a locking main blade., and rubber coating handle scales. Press the cross shield to unlock the blade. The steel is 440C with expected sharpness and edge retention. Weight is a little heaver then the Tinker 3.0oz VS 2.2oz. Size about the same. Price is a dollar or 3 of the tinker ( depends where ya shop). I have been a devoted Victorinox fan since my first one when I was a kid, but this has replaced the many Victorinox I EDC'ed for the most part only because of the lock type ( a modified liner lock). I don't care for the Victorinox lock. Imgur and my computer are having a tiff so no pic sorry.
Linky
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SZAKNI00401010/swiza-d04-swiss-pocket-knife-multi-tool-black
Victorinox also sells what they call the "US Combat Utility Knife" at Smoky Mountain Knife Works for like 84 bucks that has a locking main blade (not sure if it uses a liner lock or not, though).
It looks cool to me, but it's a bit expensive as well.
Quote from: Rednex on March 05, 2023, 02:09:51 PMOk so I been using a Swiza brand DO4 swiss army knife for a yearish . The little i checked in on them was Knife center YouTube, been around about as long as Victorinox just not a famous. It is reminiscent of the Victorinox Tinker, but it has a locking main blade., and rubber coating handle scales. Press the cross shield to unlock the blade. The steel is 440C with expected sharpness and edge retention. Weight is a little heaver then the Tinker 3.0oz VS 2.2oz. Size about the same. Price is a dollar or 3 of the tinker ( depends where ya shop). I have been a devoted Victorinox fan since my first one when I was a kid, but this has replaced the many Victorinox I EDC'ed for the most part only because of the lock type ( a modified liner lock). I don't care for the Victorinox lock. Imgur and my computer are having a tiff so no pic sorry.
Linky
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SZAKNI00401010/swiza-d04-swiss-pocket-knife-multi-tool-black
I like the ergonomic curve in that knife. And I love rubber scales. I wish those were offered more. I think the vast majority of knife buyers/users don't use their knives for anything that requires them to get wet, bloody or slimy. And rubber is by far the best retention material in knife handles there is. Fishing? Slime and blood. Hunting? Slime and blood. Self defense? At least blood. Bushcraft? At least wet.
I actually had a guy on bladeforums make a negative comment once. About wanting to change my scale retention screws to phillips head. To insure that I always had a tool on hand to be able to remove the scales. As those tiny, one use allen head wrenches are so easy to lose. "Why would you ever want to remove the scales on a knife?!". Answer? Never cleaning and drying out your knife after using it in wet weather, gutting fish or cleaning animals is a recipe for rust and corrosion build up under the scales.
I think actually using a knife has been lost on alot of knife buyers. I think alot of them are just that "buyers" and not actual users.
To be fair. Most rubber handles can not be removed. I have a filet knife who's fulltang inside the rubber handle has rusted thru and broken in half. Its to bad more rubber scales are not offered that can actually be removed for maintenance. Rubber is a by far superior handle material. I've had knives slide out of my hands and actually cut me. Just performing simple kitchen duties on meat and fish. But rubber has never failed me.
Anyway. Nice knife. I'm glad your diggin it.
Quote from: Rednex on March 05, 2023, 02:09:51 PMOk so I been using a Swiza brand DO4 swiss army knife for a yearish . The little i checked in on them was Knife center YouTube, been around about as long as Victorinox just not a famous. It is reminiscent of the Victorinox Tinker, but it has a locking main blade., and rubber coating handle scales. Press the cross shield to unlock the blade. The steel is 440C with expected sharpness and edge retention. Weight is a little heaver then the Tinker 3.0oz VS 2.2oz. Size about the same. Price is a dollar or 3 of the tinker ( depends where ya shop). I have been a devoted Victorinox fan since my first one when I was a kid, but this has replaced the many Victorinox I EDC'ed for the most part only because of the lock type ( a modified liner lock). I don't care for the Victorinox lock. Imgur and my computer are having a tiff so no pic sorry.
Linky
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SZAKNI00401010/swiza-d04-swiss-pocket-knife-multi-tool-black
I knew that Wenger was the "other" Swiss Army Knife, but Swiza wasn't even on my radar. I too am a Victorinox fan and am convinced that just as the Wave is the perfect Leatherman, the Huntsman is the perfect SAK.
But a locking blade on a SAK that's released by pushing on the cross shield? Well, that's just cool as f*ck. :smiley_bril:
Any of y'all heard of "Anza Knives" ?
I picked up a sheath at a yard sale the other day and it has "Anza Knives" stamped in the leather. It's a nice sheath, but I don't have anything that'll fit in it properly.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 05, 2023, 03:55:51 PMAny of y'all heard of "Anza Knives" ?
I picked up a sheath at a yard sale the other day and it has "Anza Knives" stamped in the leather. It's a nice sheath, but I don't have anything that'll fit in it properly.
I just saw one on Aliexpress last night. Now I'll have to search again to find it.
ETA: Guess what I saw on Aliexpress was something different as a quick Google shows them to be a customer maker in the USA.
Quote from: NT2C on March 05, 2023, 04:06:07 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 05, 2023, 03:55:51 PMAny of y'all heard of "Anza Knives" ?
I picked up a sheath at a yard sale the other day and it has "Anza Knives" stamped in the leather. It's a nice sheath, but I don't have anything that'll fit in it properly.
I just saw one on Aliexpress last night. Now I'll have to search again to find it.
ETA: Guess what I saw on Aliexpress was something different as a quick Google shows them to be a customer maker in the USA.
I did a little searching as well and Smoky Mountain Knife Works had some Anza Knives blades, but they're out of stock.
Cheapest one I found was 130 bucks. :eek1:
Quote from: majorhavoc on March 05, 2023, 03:55:44 PMQuote from: Rednex on March 05, 2023, 02:09:51 PMOk so I been using a Swiza brand DO4 swiss army knife for a yearish . The little i checked in on them was Knife center YouTube, been around about as long as Victorinox just not a famous. It is reminiscent of the Victorinox Tinker, but it has a locking main blade., and rubber coating handle scales. Press the cross shield to unlock the blade. The steel is 440C with expected sharpness and edge retention. Weight is a little heaver then the Tinker 3.0oz VS 2.2oz. Size about the same. Price is a dollar or 3 of the tinker ( depends where ya shop). I have been a devoted Victorinox fan since my first one when I was a kid, but this has replaced the many Victorinox I EDC'ed for the most part only because of the lock type ( a modified liner lock). I don't care for the Victorinox lock. Imgur and my computer are having a tiff so no pic sorry.
Linky
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SZAKNI00401010/swiza-d04-swiss-pocket-knife-multi-tool-black
I knew that Wenger was the "other" Swiss Army Knife, but Swiza wasn't even on my radar. I too am a Victorinox fan and am convinced that just as the Wave is the perfect Leatherman, the Huntsman is the perfect SAK.
But a locking blade on a SAK that's released by pushing on the cross shield? Well, that's just cool as f*ck. :smiley_bril:
Victorinox has or had something like this in their larger knives (110 or 130). If I remember correctly it's a liner lock that's disengaged by pressing on the victorinox cross.
There are also some Wenger in 85 that feature locking blades and the typical slider locks on the 110.
The reason why I always come back to Victorinox is because all of their tools work. I haven't found another brand where scissors, awl, tweezers and can opener are all as functional and I use all these tools quite frequently.
Quote from: tirls on March 06, 2023, 04:00:01 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on March 05, 2023, 03:55:44 PMQuote from: Rednex on March 05, 2023, 02:09:51 PMOk so I been using a Swiza brand DO4 swiss army knife for a yearish . The little i checked in on them was Knife center YouTube, been around about as long as Victorinox just not a famous. It is reminiscent of the Victorinox Tinker, but it has a locking main blade., and rubber coating handle scales. Press the cross shield to unlock the blade. The steel is 440C with expected sharpness and edge retention. Weight is a little heaver then the Tinker 3.0oz VS 2.2oz. Size about the same. Price is a dollar or 3 of the tinker ( depends where ya shop). I have been a devoted Victorinox fan since my first one when I was a kid, but this has replaced the many Victorinox I EDC'ed for the most part only because of the lock type ( a modified liner lock). I don't care for the Victorinox lock. Imgur and my computer are having a tiff so no pic sorry.
Linky
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/SZAKNI00401010/swiza-d04-swiss-pocket-knife-multi-tool-black
I knew that Wenger was the "other" Swiss Army Knife, but Swiza wasn't even on my radar. I too am a Victorinox fan and am convinced that just as the Wave is the perfect Leatherman, the Huntsman is the perfect SAK.
But a locking blade on a SAK that's released by pushing on the cross shield? Well, that's just cool as f*ck. :smiley_bril:
Victorinox has or had something like this in their larger knives (110 or 130). If I remember correctly it's a liner lock that's disengaged by pressing on the victorinox cross.
There are also some Wenger in 85 that feature locking blades and the typical slider locks on the 110.
The reason why I always come back to Victorinox is because all of their tools work. I haven't found another brand where scissors, awl, tweezers and can opener are all as functional and I use all these tools quite frequently.
Not even on a Leatherman?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 05, 2023, 03:55:51 PMAny of y'all heard of "Anza Knives" ?
I picked up a sheath at a yard sale the other day and it has "Anza Knives" stamped in the leather. It's a nice sheath, but I don't have anything that'll fit in it properly.
These guys maybe??? Hadn't looked at their website much, but I have heard of them before...
Anza Knives... (https://anzaknives.biz/store/)
Quote from: Brekar on March 06, 2023, 11:52:10 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 05, 2023, 03:55:51 PMAny of y'all heard of "Anza Knives" ?
I picked up a sheath at a yard sale the other day and it has "Anza Knives" stamped in the leather. It's a nice sheath, but I don't have anything that'll fit in it properly.
These guys maybe??? Hadn't looked at their website much, but I have heard of them before...
Anza Knives... (https://anzaknives.biz/store/)
I believe that's them.
I wish I'd have asked the folks at the yard sale I bought the sheath from if they had the knife that went with it, but I didn't think of it at the time.
Do you think they upgraded to kydex or something and still had the knife?
Was there any rust on the sheath? Maybe the lost or got rid of it cause it rusted.
New Mora knife collection
(https://knifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wit5-620x400.jpg)
https://knifenews.com/morakniv-unveils-full-tang-ash-wood-collection/
Quote from: MacWa77ace on March 07, 2023, 08:50:27 AMDo you think they upgraded to kydex or something and still had the knife?
Was there any rust on the sheath? Maybe the lost or got rid of it cause it rusted.
No rust on the sheath, but there is what looks like an oil or water stain on the front of it.
But it is entirely possible that maybe the knife itself got damaged somehow or rusted.
That or maybe the knife got misplaced somewhere and all they found was the sheath. Or someone beat me to the knife before I got to the yard sale.
Quote from: flybynight on March 07, 2023, 09:33:05 AMNew Mora knife collection
(https://knifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wit5-620x400.jpg)
https://knifenews.com/morakniv-unveils-full-tang-ash-wood-collection/
That is sweet! Anyone heard of price structure on these?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 07, 2023, 01:16:33 PMQuote from: MacWa77ace on March 07, 2023, 08:50:27 AMDo you think they upgraded to kydex or something and still had the knife?
Was there any rust on the sheath? Maybe the lost or got rid of it cause it rusted.
No rust on the sheath, but there is what looks like an oil or water stain on the front of it.
But it is entirely possible that maybe the knife itself got damaged somehow or rusted.
That or maybe the knife got misplaced somewhere and all they found was the sheath. Or someone beat me to the knife before I got to the yard sale.
Maybe they had a custom sheath made for it. And didn't need the original anymore.
Quote from: Moab on March 07, 2023, 01:32:24 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 07, 2023, 01:16:33 PMQuote from: MacWa77ace on March 07, 2023, 08:50:27 AMDo you think they upgraded to kydex or something and still had the knife?
Was there any rust on the sheath? Maybe the lost or got rid of it cause it rusted.
No rust on the sheath, but there is what looks like an oil or water stain on the front of it.
But it is entirely possible that maybe the knife itself got damaged somehow or rusted.
That or maybe the knife got misplaced somewhere and all they found was the sheath. Or someone beat me to the knife before I got to the yard sale.
Maybe they had a custom sheath made for it. And didn't need the original anymore.
That could be, Moab.
Another option is since I bought the sheath at what was essentially an estate/yard sale, one of the children of the old German couple whose house it was at may have taken the knife as part of an inheritance.
From talking to the ladies who were running the sale (who I found out were the daughters of the couple who owned the house), I was told that the elderly German man who the sheath had belonged to passed away recently and his wife was in a local nursing home.
I'm going to assume that maybe one of their brothers had taken the knife long before the yard sale started and probably forgot about the sheath.
Or like you said, had a custom one made and no longer needed or wanted the old one.
My guess was that the knife was rusted to junk, but that would leave a trace on the sheath.
Second would be it was separated. Sometimes you gotta look thru the old toolboxes, if they had them, it might have been in there. Old toolboxes are fun.
I bet it was still there somewhere. 'Cause who would take a knife out of the sheath because they wanted the knife? :smiley_chinrub:
Quote from: MacWa77ace on March 07, 2023, 03:21:23 PMMy guess was that the knife was rusted to junk, but that would leave a trace on the sheath.
Second would be it was separated. Sometimes you gotta look thru the old toolboxes, if they had them, it might have been in there. Old toolboxes are fun.
I bet it was still there somewhere. 'Cause who would take a knife out of the sheath because they wanted the knife? :smiley_chinrub:
I didn't see any toolboxes, but the pickings were kind of slim by the time I got to the yard sale. So it's possible someone bought them, if there were any to begin with, and the knife may have been in one.
Oh well, I've got the sheath, someone else has the knife and now I get to look for a suitable replacement to go with the sheath. Maybe I'll get lucky at another yard sale and find an Anza knife without a sheath. :smiley_clap:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 07, 2023, 03:24:56 PMQuote from: MacWa77ace on March 07, 2023, 03:21:23 PMMy guess was that the knife was rusted to junk, but that would leave a trace on the sheath.
Second would be it was separated. Sometimes you gotta look thru the old toolboxes, if they had them, it might have been in there. Old toolboxes are fun.
I bet it was still there somewhere. 'Cause who would take a knife out of the sheath because they wanted the knife? :smiley_chinrub:
I didn't see any toolboxes, but the pickings were kind of slim by the time I got to the yard sale. So it's possible someone bought them, if there were any to begin with, and the knife may have been in one.
Oh well, I've got the sheath, someone else has the knife and now I get to look for a suitable replacement to go with the sheath. Maybe I'll get lucky at another yard sale and find an Anza knife without a sheath. :smiley_clap:
Single man with sheath seaks woman with knife...
Wait, that's backwards.
I'm thinking the knife got lost on a hike or camping trip.
That could be too, NT2C.
It's also possible the previous owner of the sheath lost the knife in a cotton or peanut field out here.
Those are the two biggest crops grown in my AO and a lot of the German population out here farms, so it's entirely possible that the knife could be out in some random field out here.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on March 07, 2023, 03:26:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 07, 2023, 03:24:56 PMQuote from: MacWa77ace on March 07, 2023, 03:21:23 PMMy guess was that the knife was rusted to junk, but that would leave a trace on the sheath.
Second would be it was separated. Sometimes you gotta look thru the old toolboxes, if they had them, it might have been in there. Old toolboxes are fun.
I bet it was still there somewhere. 'Cause who would take a knife out of the sheath because they wanted the knife? :smiley_chinrub:
I didn't see any toolboxes, but the pickings were kind of slim by the time I got to the yard sale. So it's possible someone bought them, if there were any to begin with, and the knife may have been in one.
Oh well, I've got the sheath, someone else has the knife and now I get to look for a suitable replacement to go with the sheath. Maybe I'll get lucky at another yard sale and find an Anza knife without a sheath. :smiley_clap:
Single man with sheath seaks woman with knife...
Wait, that's backwards.
Not anymore
Quote from: Moab on March 07, 2023, 01:31:35 PMQuote from: flybynight on March 07, 2023, 09:33:05 AMNew Mora knife collection
(https://knifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wit5-620x400.jpg)
https://knifenews.com/morakniv-unveils-full-tang-ash-wood-collection/
That is sweet! Anyone heard of price structure on these?
I heard kinda pricey. But we will see. They're new. Everything is more expensive when it first comes out
Quote from: flybynight on March 07, 2023, 05:57:49 PMQuote from: Moab on March 07, 2023, 01:31:35 PMQuote from: flybynight on March 07, 2023, 09:33:05 AMNew Mora knife collection
(https://knifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wit5-620x400.jpg)
https://knifenews.com/morakniv-unveils-full-tang-ash-wood-collection/
That is sweet! Anyone heard of price structure on these?
I heard kinda pricey. But we will see. They're new. Everything is more expensive when it first comes out
They don't exactly show the spine. And I honestly didn't read the whole article. (Just did they are fulltang.) But they look fulltang too. Which is awesome. I also wouldn't imagine it would be to long before people started making g10 and micarta scales.
These look pretty awesome. These look like the kind of knives they should have added to their collection long ago. I can't imagine them not selling well. Unless they were overpriced. They are made of recycled steel. Maybe that will bring the cost down?
Did a little more monkeying around with those Swiss-Tech knives I got.
One big thing I found is the pivot pin screws on both the "Gerundet" and the "Wurdig" are really tight. Not sure if Swiss-Tech LocTited the screws or what, but it's a pain in the ass to loosen them.
Which will suck even more when I have to take them apart to clean or do any sort of maintenance on them. The screws are in there so tight that I'm afraid I'm going to strip them if I apply any more force to them.
Another thing is the detent on the "Wurdig" feels kind of loose. Like it'll open no problem, but closing it seems a bit unsafe. What I mean is the blade closes almost by itself with how easily it closes upon releasing the liner lock.
With that in mind, I wouldn't recommend the "Wurdig" for a newbie to knives since the potential to cut oneself closing the knife is high.
Other than that, I like both knives and might purchase another set as soon as I can. I may pick up the coarse G10 version of the "Wurdig" and see how that one compares to the green canvas micarta version I have.
I really have to stop checking out the "New Arrivals" section over on MidwayUSA's site.
There's now three new knives on my wishlist (a Gerber Armbar Trade multitool, a Gerber Armbar Scout multitool, and an Old Timer Heritage Series D2 fixed blade.)
So, I may or may not have bought $150 worth of knives last night, to give away in the contests. :smiley_confused_scheel:
Including one of these:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71puY-NOj+L._AC_SL1500_.jpg) (https://a.co/d/hsVxlnO)
I just received 2 knock off mora's from Amazon last night
Chinese 8cr steel. Not sharp from the box, but we'll see how they polish up.
$11/knife since mora companions are now hovering around $20ish not on sale.
We'll see. Build quality is nice other than the dull blade.
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Quote from: JeeperCreeper on March 23, 2023, 10:25:30 AMI just received 2 knock off mora's from Amazon last night
Chinese 8cr steel. Not sharp from the box, but we'll see how they polish up.
$11/knife since mora companions are now hovering around $20ish not on sale.
We'll see. Build quality is nice other than the dull blade.
8cr steel is supposed to be pretty easy to resharpen from what I've heard.
A lot of Kershaw's budget stuff is made with 8cr13mov steel and it takes a pretty good edge.
Of course, this all depends on whether or not the heat treat is good or total trash. The blade could be made from the best steel on the planet, but if the heat treat is bad, it won't matter.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 23, 2023, 11:58:20 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on March 23, 2023, 10:25:30 AMI just received 2 knock off mora's from Amazon last night
Chinese 8cr steel. Not sharp from the box, but we'll see how they polish up.
$11/knife since mora companions are now hovering around $20ish not on sale.
We'll see. Build quality is nice other than the dull blade.
8cr steel is supposed to be pretty easy to resharpen from what I've heard.
A lot of Kershaw's budget stuff is made with 8cr13mov steel and it takes a pretty good edge.
Of course, this all depends on whether or not the heat treat is good or total trash. The blade could be made from the best steel on the planet, but if the heat treat is bad, it won't matter.
Well, actually...
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This is a really nice find. And fulltang.
I still like this at $16. If shipping or pick up was free.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-4-in-Tradesman-Fixed-Blade-Knife-48-22-1926/303409113#overlay
Lowes sells a very similar knife for $15.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/LENOX-Fixed-Blade-Tradesman-Knife/1003172464
Some speculation online that they are made by Kershaw. But idk.
I like the $10 one for its more bushcraft type edge. And the rubber handle seems to be more substantial. The sheath looks to be a bit more functional as well.
Jeepercreeper, definitely do a review. Its worth it. Nice knife.
I may have bought one or three of these last night:
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S5781f2253736417d96e14ce7578f08245/SWISS-TECH-11-in-1-Folding-Knife-Multi-Knife-Outdoor-Pocket-Mini-Portable-Knife-Multitool-Knife.jpg_.webp) (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804489428766.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.10.21ef180210fBCK&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)
ETA: @$20ea and with really good reviews I figured what the hell...
Quote from: NT2C on March 23, 2023, 12:29:38 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 23, 2023, 11:58:20 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on March 23, 2023, 10:25:30 AMI just received 2 knock off mora's from Amazon last night
Chinese 8cr steel. Not sharp from the box, but we'll see how they polish up.
$11/knife since mora companions are now hovering around $20ish not on sale.
We'll see. Build quality is nice other than the dull blade.
8cr steel is supposed to be pretty easy to resharpen from what I've heard.
A lot of Kershaw's budget stuff is made with 8cr13mov steel and it takes a pretty good edge.
Of course, this all depends on whether or not the heat treat is good or total trash. The blade could be made from the best steel on the planet, but if the heat treat is bad, it won't matter.
Well, actually...
I wonder how differently this guys tests would've gone had all three blade had handles on them. I also wonder if having a handle on the blade made any difference at all.
Quote from: NT2C on March 23, 2023, 02:00:57 PMI may have bought one or three of these last night:
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S5781f2253736417d96e14ce7578f08245/SWISS-TECH-11-in-1-Folding-Knife-Multi-Knife-Outdoor-Pocket-Mini-Portable-Knife-Multitool-Knife.jpg_.webp) (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804489428766.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.10.21ef180210fBCK&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)
ETA: @$20ea and with really good reviews I figured what the hell...
Kind of reminds me of the Gerber Armbar multitool. Except 20 bucks cheaper.
And onto my wishlist it goes.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 23, 2023, 02:14:36 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 23, 2023, 02:00:57 PMI may have bought one or three of these last night:
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S5781f2253736417d96e14ce7578f08245/SWISS-TECH-11-in-1-Folding-Knife-Multi-Knife-Outdoor-Pocket-Mini-Portable-Knife-Multitool-Knife.jpg_.webp) (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804489428766.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.10.21ef180210fBCK&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US)
ETA: @$20ea and with really good reviews I figured what the hell...
Kind of reminds me of the Gerber Armbar multitool. Except 20 bucks cheaper.
And onto my wishlist it goes.
That's a really good reference point for comparison.
The only complaint I've seen on the Gerber Armbar is that the screwdriver doesn't lock like the blade does.
It's a relatively minor complaint, but it's the one the detractors of the Armbar repeat over and over every time Gerber releases a new version of the Armbar.
I still want one and don't really mind that the screwdriver doesn't lock open or in a 90 degree position.
Just placed an order with MidwayUSA for a Buck 863 Selkirk fixed blade.
Midway has them for 50 percent off their usual price right now.
Regular price on these is 100 bucks and the current as of today sale price is $49.99 (these qualify for free shipping from MidwayUSA and after tax, the total was $54.11).
ETA: And I just got an email from Midway that says my order has shipped. :smiley_clap:
I have an Armbar it's so-so to me.
Quote from: Rednex on March 23, 2023, 05:32:36 PMI have an Armbar it's so-so to me.
Which version you got, Rednex ?
I'm looking at getting either the Armbar Trade or the Armbar Scout from MidwayUSA.
I kind of wish the Armbar Trade had the scissors like the Scout does instead of an awl, though.
I got the Arm bar slim knife, screwdriver and bottle opener on the end.Like I said it is only so so to me. Looked like what I wanted but just don't have a feel to it or any real love for it. Still carry it once in a while.
I think the Armbar Trade and Scout are a lot thicker than the Armbar Slim, but I don't have either one so I can't really compare them.
Only multitools I own currently are some Leathermans (two Waves, a Blast, a Kick, a Rebar, a Mini Tool and a Wingman), a Gerber Suspension NXT and an Ozark Trail one I got for Christmas last year.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 23, 2023, 10:09:07 PMI think the Armbar Trade and Scout are a lot thicker than the Armbar Slim, but I don't have either one so I can't really compare them.
Only multitools I own currently are some Leathermans (two Waves, a Blast, a Kick, a Rebar, a Mini Tool and a Wingman), a Gerber Suspension NXT and an Ozark Trail one I got for Christmas last year.
That's an impressive collection. Can you imagine if someone started selling multi-tools with dragons laser-etched onto them? Anianna's head would explode ...
Quote from: majorhavoc on March 24, 2023, 07:56:48 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 23, 2023, 10:09:07 PMI think the Armbar Trade and Scout are a lot thicker than the Armbar Slim, but I don't have either one so I can't really compare them.
Only multitools I own currently are some Leathermans (two Waves, a Blast, a Kick, a Rebar, a Mini Tool and a Wingman), a Gerber Suspension NXT and an Ozark Trail one I got for Christmas last year.
That's an impressive collection. Can you imagine if someone started selling multi-tools with dragons laser-etched onto them? Anianna's head would explode ...
I smell a business idea. :awesome:
Quote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 01:00:35 PM
I know, I know. I was thinking the same thing. Except instead of multi-tools as I suggested above, I was thinking about starting out etching the UFoZS logo on some Zippos ...
Quote from: majorhavoc on March 24, 2023, 01:05:10 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 01:00:35 PM
I know, I know. I was thinking the same thing. Except instead of multi-tools as I suggested above, I was thinking about starting out etching the UFoZS logo on some Zippos ...
The machine is $2,500
How many Zippos to break even?
Quote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 01:17:48 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on March 24, 2023, 01:05:10 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 01:00:35 PM
I know, I know. I was thinking the same thing. Except instead of multi-tools as I suggested above, I was thinking about starting out etching the UFoZS logo on some Zippos ...
The machine is $2,500
How many Zippos to break even?
My guess is a lot of them.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 23, 2023, 11:58:20 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on March 23, 2023, 10:25:30 AMI just received 2 knock off mora's from Amazon last night
Chinese 8cr steel. Not sharp from the box, but we'll see how they polish up.
$11/knife since mora companions are now hovering around $20ish not on sale.
We'll see. Build quality is nice other than the dull blade.
8cr steel is supposed to be pretty easy to resharpen from what I've heard.
A lot of Kershaw's budget stuff is made with 8cr13mov steel and it takes a pretty good edge.
Of course, this all depends on whether or not the heat treat is good or total trash. The blade could be made from the best steel on the planet, but if the heat treat is bad, it won't matter.
That's how I understand it too.
That's why I love Buck knives and they're 420, but steer clear of shitty imported budget 420 knives
Quote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 01:00:35 PM
The guy that did my Form 1 makers mark on my SBR had that unit. I would love to have that, I'd engrave (https://i.imgur.com/PLrI0bz.png) on everything.
But 2,300 USD is a bit much.
https://www.amazon.com/ComMarker-LightBurn-Compatible-Engraving-Different/dp/B0BW8HWRBX
I was thinking of something more like this:
https://ortur.net/products/ortur-lm3-le-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-15-000mm-min?variant=44477558227177 (https://ortur.net/products/ortur-lm3-le-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-15-000mm-min?variant=44477558227177)
But I know nothing about laser engravers. Now NT2C, this is just a crazy idea, offered mostly in jest. So don't do anything stupid! But on the off chance you make another of your infamously rash buying decisions, I'd kick myself for not adding: code 170OFF supposedly gets one a $170 discount.
I repeat: I know nothing about laser engravers.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on March 24, 2023, 02:41:46 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 23, 2023, 11:58:20 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on March 23, 2023, 10:25:30 AMI just received 2 knock off mora's from Amazon last night
Chinese 8cr steel. Not sharp from the box, but we'll see how they polish up.
$11/knife since mora companions are now hovering around $20ish not on sale.
We'll see. Build quality is nice other than the dull blade.
8cr steel is supposed to be pretty easy to resharpen from what I've heard.
A lot of Kershaw's budget stuff is made with 8cr13mov steel and it takes a pretty good edge.
Of course, this all depends on whether or not the heat treat is good or total trash. The blade could be made from the best steel on the planet, but if the heat treat is bad, it won't matter.
That's how I understand it too.
That's why I love Buck knives and they're 420, but steer clear of shitty imported budget 420 knives
Yeah.
Which why I'm surprised just how much improvement a lot of Chinese knife makers have made in the last five or so years regarding the heat treatment and overall quality of their stuff.
On the other end of the spectrum, I'm not shocked that the quality of blades coming from places like Pakistan hasn't improved.
I had a no name Pakistan boot knife when I was a kid and that thing rusted if you looked at it funny. The blade was duller than a butter knife and even if you could get it sharp, the edge would dull under light use.
I ended up tossing it in a box with various other impulse buy knives I bought in those years (I had a real bad habit of buying pretty much any kind of knife back then) and sold the whole lot of them at a yard sale for 30 bucks.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on March 24, 2023, 02:50:02 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 01:00:35 PM
The guy that did my Form 1 makers mark on my SBR had that unit. I would love to have that, I'd engrave (https://i.imgur.com/PLrI0bz.png) on everything.
But 2,300 USD is a bit much.
https://www.amazon.com/ComMarker-LightBurn-Compatible-Engraving-Different/dp/B0BW8HWRBX
$2,300 is just the base machine. There's extras that bump it over $2,500
Quote from: majorhavoc on March 24, 2023, 02:51:04 PMI was thinking of something more like this:
https://ortur.net/products/ortur-lm3-le-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-15-000mm-min?variant=44477558227177 (https://ortur.net/products/ortur-lm3-le-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-15-000mm-min?variant=44477558227177)
But I know nothing about laser engravers. Now NT2C, this is just a crazy idea, offered mostly in jest. So don't do anything stupid! But on the off chance you make another of your infamously rash buying decisions, I'd kick myself for not adding: code 170OFF supposedly gets one a $170 discount.
I repeat: I know nothing about laser engravers.
Yeah, that's a pretty basic, low-power machine that can do wood & plastics but not much in the way of metal. It would be good for things like making stencils, cutting plastic shapes, wood puzzles, etc. I'd use it to engrave AR and AK mags.
Quote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 04:11:02 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on March 24, 2023, 02:51:04 PMI was thinking of something more like this:
https://ortur.net/products/ortur-lm3-le-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-15-000mm-min?variant=44477558227177 (https://ortur.net/products/ortur-lm3-le-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-15-000mm-min?variant=44477558227177)
But I know nothing about laser engravers. Now NT2C, this is just a crazy idea, offered mostly in jest. So don't do anything stupid! But on the off chance you make another of your infamously rash buying decisions, I'd kick myself for not adding: code 170OFF supposedly gets one a $170 discount.
I repeat: I know nothing about laser engravers.
Yeah, that's a pretty basic, low-power machine that can do wood & plastics but not much in the way of metal. It would be good for things like making stencils, cutting plastic shapes, wood puzzles, etc. I'd use it to engrave AR and AK mags.
I told you I didn't know anything about lasers. I should have been looking for a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
Quote from: majorhavoc on March 24, 2023, 04:34:25 PMQuote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 04:11:02 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on March 24, 2023, 02:51:04 PMI was thinking of something more like this:
https://ortur.net/products/ortur-lm3-le-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-15-000mm-min?variant=44477558227177 (https://ortur.net/products/ortur-lm3-le-laser-engraving-cutting-machine-15-000mm-min?variant=44477558227177)
But I know nothing about laser engravers. Now NT2C, this is just a crazy idea, offered mostly in jest. So don't do anything stupid! But on the off chance you make another of your infamously rash buying decisions, I'd kick myself for not adding: code 170OFF supposedly gets one a $170 discount.
I repeat: I know nothing about laser engravers.
Yeah, that's a pretty basic, low-power machine that can do wood & plastics but not much in the way of metal. It would be good for things like making stencils, cutting plastic shapes, wood puzzles, etc. I'd use it to engrave AR and AK mags.
I told you I didn't know anything about lasers. I should have been looking for a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
Well, we can get by with 20W to keep the costs low.
Off the subject of laser engravers, how'd the visit to Knife Center's retail store go, NT2C?
I've been meaning to ask about that, but I kept forgetting to.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 24, 2023, 05:34:15 PMOff the subject of laser engravers, how'd the visit to Knife Center's retail store go, NT2C?
I've been meaning to ask about that, but I kept forgetting to.
Haven't gone. I've been under the weather for most of the month. Having issues due to the enlarged liver I suspect. I have a doc appointment Monday but she's gonna be mad I didn't get the labwork done I was supposed to. Difficult to do when you don't want to be more than 20 feet from the bathroom.
My back has been acting up a lot too, so I've been taking a lot of pain meds and won't drive while taking them.
Quote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 06:08:40 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 24, 2023, 05:34:15 PMOff the subject of laser engravers, how'd the visit to Knife Center's retail store go, NT2C?
I've been meaning to ask about that, but I kept forgetting to.
Haven't gone. I've been under the weather for most of the month. Having issues due to the enlarged liver I suspect. I have a doc appointment Monday but she's gonna be mad I didn't get the labwork done I was supposed to. Difficult to do when you don't want to be more than 20 feet from the bathroom.
My back has been acting up a lot too, so I've been taking a lot of pain meds and won't drive while taking them.
I hope you get to feeling better soon and your body decides to play nice again as well.
Speaking of knives though, look what the Amazon Fairy left on my doorstep:
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I like how one of the uses is "Tactical" despite the knife being bright yellow and blue. :smiley_clap:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 24, 2023, 08:57:41 PMI like how one of the uses is "Tactical" despite the knife being bright yellow and blue. :smiley_clap:
Bah! Funny monkey-boy from Roosha is not familiar with good Ukrainian combat knife? Cross border, they show you.
:clownshoes:
Quote from: NT2C on March 24, 2023, 09:33:29 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 24, 2023, 08:57:41 PMI like how one of the uses is "Tactical" despite the knife being bright yellow and blue. :smiley_clap:
Bah! Funny monkey-boy from Roosha is not familiar with good Ukrainian combat knife? Cross border, they show you.
:clownshoes:
Correction: Funny monkey-boy from Ukraine. :razz:
And no way am I crossing that border. If I want to get shot at or stabbed, I'll just go to Houston. :eek1:
I was in Odessa (Texas, not Ukraine) this morning running some errands and decided to stop at Harbor Freight to see if they got any more of their Gordon 3.6" blade folding knives in.
They didn't (which is not surprising since that particular knife is so damn popular) ,so I picked up another Gordon GK22 Buck 119 fixed blade clone. I didn't have a coupon with me today, so I paid the full price for it.
Even at almost 30 bucks, it's still a decent knife and it's 40 bucks cheaper than an actual Buck 119.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 25, 2023, 06:15:34 PMI was in Odessa (Texas, not Ukraine) this morning running some errands and decided to stop at Harbor Freight to see if they got any more of their Gordon 3.6" blade folding knives in.
They didn't (which is not surprising since that particular knife is so damn popular) ,so I picked up another Gordon GK22 Buck 119 fixed blade clone. I didn't have a coupon with me today, so I paid the full price for it.
Even at almost 30 bucks, it's still a decent knife and it's 40 bucks cheaper than an actual Buck 119.
Don't forget the bushcraft axe
https://youtu.be/BqwrLTRcMlA
I actually didn't see any axes at my Harbor Freight.
Either I was in the wrong aisle or they were out of stock.
This is probably a dumb question but is there any reason not to pull the trigger on a Tops MSK 2.5 for an EDC?
Probably carry IWB with an Ulticlip for the most part. Goes on top of my usual SAK / Zippo / flashlight / Gerber Dime.
Have a folder I like already & want to try something different.
None at all. I carried daily small fixed blades from 2019 til last spring. (when I switched back to folders) I became enamored of fixed blade knives pocket carry. This actually did not work out to well for me and I just ended up attaching them to my belt. It worked fine that carry method. The one problem with these small knives is lack of handle grip. They all have small handles. The one I liked the best was this MTech
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81xiE1St1sL.jpg)
The other two I tried were this CRKT
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81tjTsAzV9L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
and this Blackjack
(https://www.extac.com.au/assets/alt_3/BJ067.jpg?20210309034443)
I tried them all both vertical and horizontal carry. Inside pocket with a ulticlip on the CRKT and MTech . THe pocket carry didn't work out because I just carry too much stuff in my pockets and even though they are small knives. The size of the sheaths made it hard to access the junk in my pocket. I did try IWB on those two knives also but was just too leary of slicing my clothes or myself reholstering those small blades into a small sheath.
That Blackjack knife looks neat, FBN.
What are the details on that one ?
I tend to carry larger fixed blades, but that's mostly a matter of comfort for me.
I find a lot of smaller fixed blades don't fit my hands as well as the full sized ones do.
I can't remember where I bought it. ( not on my Amazon orders list) . And it appears to either been discontinued or just hard to find. Every place I've looked show it out of stock. It's a small knife. Very strikingly beautiful . The small handle coupled with smooth micarta make it the most difficult of the three knives to hold. It really benefitted from a Knotted cord lanyard. The hole though was too small for 550 paracord and I ended up using some other cordage. Very sharp, Held edge well. The sheath is Meh. Not the best, also not the worst. ( I really don't like cordura Knife sheaths) It's a downsized version of a Randal knife. A # 5 I believe
https://www.smkw.com/blackjack-knives-small-hunter
Neat. Sucks that they're discontinued, though.
I've heard similar complaints about the smooth handles on the Buck 119. A lot of folks will take sandpaper and rough up the handles a bit in order to get some semblance of a grip on them. Apparently it works rather well.
ARRRRRUUUUUUGGGGHHHHH! :tickedoff:
Okay, I feel a little better now. Moab, this is all your fault. :clownshoes:
You posted that you had this knife (https://a.co/d/6XHQosr) and that it was well-made, equal to this one from Swiss+Tech (https://a.co/d/6XHQosr) that I was offering as a prize in our contests. So I went on Amazon, bought one, and offered it as another prize. They sent me one of these (https://a.co/d/hyZ0aDU) POS "spring-assisted" folders that are $2.00 cheaper. I contacted Amazon and sent it back while they sent a replacement. The replacement arrived today, another one of these (https://a.co/d/hyZ0aDU) that I actually broke a fingernail on trying to flip it open. "spring assisted" my ass... :smiley_tongue_fierce:
After a 45-minute chat with three different Amazon associates, I have a refund and I don't have to return this dog turd (https://a.co/d/hyZ0aDU). I'll see if I can order the fixed blade elsewhere, possibly the manufacturer's site if I can remember where I filed away my corporate resale certificates.
So, who gets this POS? You want it Chimpski? Practice your file jimping on it maybe?
EDIT: Fug it, you're getting it anyway. Don't want you to think I only send you good stuff.
Torpedo in the water, Chimp!
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@12_Gauge_Chimp
I'll see what I can do with it, NT2C.
I like tinkering on stuff so maybe I can figure out how to make it work and not break fingernails trying to open it.
My money is on the spring for the assisted opening function being too strong or something.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 28, 2023, 04:34:51 PMI'll see what I can do with it, NT2C.
I like tinkering on stuff so maybe I can figure out how to make it work and not break fingernails trying to open it.
My money is on the spring for the assisted opening function being too strong or something.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0773QVH9Z?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_QN0JX1BPH38TAJVB2SY4
LOL, watch the video, keep in mind frame locks are harder to thumbstud open than liner locks if you're not experienced. And the guy in the video did a poor job on the thumbstud technique. you don't push and follow, you keep your thumb riding the frame and generate enough starting force to get it's assist to help. If its an unassisted framelock thumbstud you do the same thing but add in a little wrist flip to 'help' lock it open if necessary.
This was my first framelock and its tight but I figured it out with practice.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6T43RD3lAqA
I've had knives where the pivot pin was tightened down too much and that caused binding issues.
M-Tech's fixed blades are ok knives, but their folders can be hit or miss quality wise. They're about like Frost Cutlery in that regard.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 28, 2023, 04:34:51 PMI'll see what I can do with it, NT2C.
I like tinkering on stuff so maybe I can figure out how to make it work and not break fingernails trying to open it.
My money is on the spring for the assisted opening function being too strong or something.
Too strong... :smiley_lollol:
The pivot is so tight that the flipper tab almost doesn't move. I tore up a fingernail when flipping it open because the spring can barely deploy it, even with a strong push on the flipper. The pivot is about three times as tight as it needs to be and the spring is about three times weaker than it needs to be.
You almost have enough time to recite the alphabet while you wait for the blade to finish deploying.
Quote from: NT2C on March 28, 2023, 05:20:50 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 28, 2023, 04:34:51 PMI'll see what I can do with it, NT2C.
I like tinkering on stuff so maybe I can figure out how to make it work and not break fingernails trying to open it.
My money is on the spring for the assisted opening function being too strong or something.
Too strong... :smiley_lollol:
The pivot is so tight that the flipper tab almost doesn't move. I tore up a fingernail when flipping it open because the spring can barely deploy it, even with a strong push on the flipper. The pivot is about three times as tight as it needs to be and the spring is about three times weaker than it needs to be.
You almost have enough time to recite the alphabet while you wait for the blade to finish deploying.
Once I get the knife in my hands, I'll see if loosening the pivot helps as well as maybe taking the spring out and see if that does anything.
If that doesn't work, I can always use it to practice my fileworking and sharpening skills.
Quote from: NT2C on March 28, 2023, 03:53:09 PMARRRRRUUUUUUGGGGHHHHH! :tickedoff:
Okay, I feel a little better now. Moab, this is all your fault. :clownshoes:
You posted that you had this knife (https://a.co/d/6XHQosr) and that it was well-made, equal to this one from Swiss+Tech (https://a.co/d/6XHQosr) that I was offering as a prize in our contests. So I went on Amazon, bought one, and offered it as another prize. They sent me one of these (https://a.co/d/hyZ0aDU) POS "spring-assisted" folders that are $2.00 cheaper. I contacted Amazon and sent it back while they sent a replacement. The replacement arrived today, another one of these (https://a.co/d/hyZ0aDU) that I actually broke a fingernail on trying to flip it open. "spring assisted" my ass... :smiley_tongue_fierce:
After a 45-minute chat with three different Amazon associates, I have a refund and I don't have to return this dog turd (https://a.co/d/hyZ0aDU). I'll see if I can order the fixed blade elsewhere, possibly the manufacturer's site if I can remember where I filed away my corporate resale certificates.
So, who gets this POS? You want it Chimpski? Practice your file jimping on it maybe?
EDIT: Fug it, you're getting it anyway. Don't want you to think I only send you good stuff.
Ha. I've got that Mtech fixed blade. It's a beast. It's with my GHB
Got my Buck 863 Selkirk fixed blade in today from MidwayUSA.
It's a little smaller than I'd thought, but not by much. My only dislike is the sheath it comes with. I'd have preferred a nice leather sheath, but that probably would've upped the price a little more.
A neat little bonus came with the knife as well. Buck included a nice ferro rod/safety whistle with the 863 Selkirk, which isn't surprising considering they market it as a bushcraft knife.
So this will be my second ever bushcrafting knife (the first one is a nice Mora Companion that NT2C sent me a few years ago.).
ETA: Whoever designed the sheath hardware for the Buck Selkirk, you suck. This is the most annoying, multi piece belt loop attachment method I've ever dealt with.
Why couldn't they have just put a Tek-Lok on it and been done with it ?
Got the Mtech folding knife from Hell from NT2C earlier today and he was not kidding when he said it was a bitch to open. :eek1:
Whatever genius that designed this thing (I hesitate to call it a knife because a knife is something that actually works unlike this fucking thing) needs to be kicked in the nuts.
I monkeyed with it for almost an hour trying to figure out a way to make it work because it's a nice looking knife, but cursed with the stupidest assisted opening mechanism ever. Oh, and the frame lock has more over travel than it ought to have. If this thing ever got any sort of harsh use other than opening a letter or package (and even that is pushing it), the lock mechanism would break really quickly.
The relief cut into it is way too deep and it failing isn't a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
I wouldn't even feel comfortable selling it at a yard sale because of the possibility of it failing and hurting whoever bought it.
So I'll likely end up keeping it if for nothing else than to spare anyone else from the potential failure of the lock and the stupidly stiff opening mechanism.
I won't say this is the worst knife I've ever owned, but it's at least in the top 10. At least it looks nice and is a great example of form over function.
Because it sure as hell doesn't function properly.
I remember several years ago Wally World sold a frame lock knife for $1. That's right, a hundred pennies. I knew it had to be crap but forgive me, I had to know. I just had to know. So I bought it. Shocker, but it was every bit as shitty as you would imagine a one dollar knife to be. If it were the only blade you had in a survival situation, it would actually decrease your chances of getting home alive.
Just looking at some of the Mtech models on Amazon, I get the sense they aren't far behind. And I hear what Chimp is saying about form over function. Most of those Mtechs seem to be designed to appeal to a 14 year old with a very unsophisticated sense of what makes a knife "cool".
My only remaining question is this: why the hell did NT2C buy it again? Feel free to use the excuse I had for the $1 Walmart special, NT2C. Sometimes you have to buy something out of a peverse sense of curiosity. To see if there's any possibility it could be worth even the low price they're charging for it. But at a certain point you just have to assume that no, you cannot make a quality knife for $1 or even $10.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 28, 2023, 04:34:51 PMI'll see what I can do with it, NT2C.
I like tinkering on stuff so maybe I can figure out how to make it work and not break fingernails trying to open it.
My money is on the spring for the assisted opening function being too strong or something.
So, how much money were we talking about here? :smiley_crocodile:
Quote from: majorhavoc on April 03, 2023, 06:50:01 PMMy only remaining question is this: why the hell did NT2C buy it again? Feel free to use the excuse I had for the $1 Walmart special, NT2C. Sometimes you have to buy something out of a peverse sense of curiosity. To see if there's any possibility it could be worth even the low price they're charging for it. But at a certain point you just have to assume that no, you cannot make a quality knife for $1 or even $10.
A combination MTech curse from Moab and the Evil Orcs of the Amazon Warehouse.
https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?msg=28331
Quote from: NT2C on April 03, 2023, 07:05:49 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 28, 2023, 04:34:51 PMI'll see what I can do with it, NT2C.
I like tinkering on stuff so maybe I can figure out how to make it work and not break fingernails trying to open it.
My money is on the spring for the assisted opening function being too strong or something.
So, how much money were we talking about here? :smiley_crocodile:
To be fair, I did say "or something". I just don't know what that "or something" is. :smiley_crocodile:
Aside from the stupidly stiff assisted opening mechanism and the lock, it's not a bad knife.
If M-Tech did a bit more polishing on it like getting rid of the assisted opening mechanism and reinforcing the lock bar, it'd be a good knife.
I like the black and lime green G10 handle scale and the overall look of the knife.
It just saddens me the opening mechanism is so crappy.
Quote from: NT2C on April 03, 2023, 07:09:05 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on April 03, 2023, 06:50:01 PMMy only remaining question is this: why the hell did NT2C buy it again? Feel free to use the excuse I had for the $1 Walmart special, NT2C. Sometimes you have to buy something out of a peverse sense of curiosity. To see if there's any possibility it could be worth even the low price they're charging for it. But at a certain point you just have to assume that no, you cannot make a quality knife for $1 or even $10.
A combination MTech curse from Moab and the Evil Orcs of the Amazon Warehouse.
https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?msg=28331
OK, I get it. So it's not even the knife you ordered. And in Moab's defense, the full tang blade he was recommending looks like it could actually be decent for the price. Too bad the Mtech folder you eventually got for free was such a turd. Because as pictured, it actually doesn't look that bad. These are examples of the kind of knives I associate with Mtech:
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61fjjgQIpQL._AC_SX679_.jpg)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61MCOqjcRiL._AC_SX466_.jpg)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61WlSUY-SEL._AC_SX679_.jpg)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61mISY3KKoL._AC_SX679_.jpg)
I kind of like that last fixed blade.
Might be kind of a pain to sharpen with that odd profile, though.
From my experience, MTech's fixed blades are actually kind of decent, but their folding knives are not so great.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on April 03, 2023, 07:55:19 PMI kind of like that last fixed blade.
(https://media.tenor.com/HuYocxVkIakAAAAC/luke-skywalker-no.gif)
Just kidding, Chimp. To each their own, right? As I used to say to my daughter: "
Everyone has their own artistic eye." :smiley_cheerleader:
Oh, I never said I'd buy it. :smiley_crocodile:
There's a bunch of knives I like the looks of, but probably never will buy.
My days of buying knives just because they looked neat are long over. Now they have to look neat and be functional in order for me to buy them. And I also tend to watch a bunch of reviews before I buy a knife now as well.
That's one of the few reasons I'm glad YouTube exists.
Quote from: majorhavoc on April 03, 2023, 06:50:01 PMI remember several years ago Wally World sold a frame lock knife for $1. That's right, a hundred pennies. I knew it had to be crap but forgive me, I had to know. I just had to know. So I bought it. Shocker, but it was every bit as shitty as you would imagine a one dollar knife to be. If it were the only blade you had in a survival situation, it would actually decrease your chances of getting home alive.
Just looking at some of the Mtech models on Amazon, I get the sense they aren't far behind. And I hear what Chimp is saying about form over function. Most of those Mtechs seem to be designed to appeal to a 14 year old with a very unsophisticated sense of what makes a knife "cool".
My only remaining question is this: why the hell did NT2C buy it again? Feel free to use the excuse I had for the $1 Walmart special, NT2C. Sometimes you have to buy something out of a peverse sense of curiosity. To see if there's any possibility it could be worth even the low price they're charging for it. But at a certain point you just have to assume that no, you cannot make a quality knife for $1 or even $10.
I've bought three M-tech knives. And all three are better than decent.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/W/IMAGERENDERING_521856-T2/images/I/71c4YD7S+IL._AC_SX569_.jpg)
I bought this when I was playing with fixed blade pocket carry. It keeps an edge well and the handle gives a better grip than a lot of these smallish blades.
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Another of the EDC pocket carry fixed blades. None of the blades I tried with this carry method worked. I just have too much in my pockets, This Knife is quite sturdy also. It ended up as my youngest daughters vehicle knife. She likes it still. Two years later ,it still keeps a good edge. This knife has quite a following
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Ah HA . The knife too good to be delivered to NT2C. Moab and I have discussed it a couple times.
This Knife is a beast. Holds edge reasonably well. Sharpens easy. Perfect beater knife . . could probably baton a redwood with it. It's in my GHB
Ok I lied . When I looked up these knives in my orders list . I saw I actually have bought four
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Ok I'm not proud of this one. Holds an edge. Not very comfortable in the hand. Kinda the High Point of Mtech knives. It works . Pretty fugly. My son keeps it in his GHB.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007WAZDVM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CTQ0UX0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0087BGIEQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01416WSBM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also have that third Mtech knife.
With some work with a kitchen pull thru sharpener, I was actually impressed.
I think it uses a 440-ish steel.
Great beater, it was my Jeep knife in Pennsylvania
I may have found a sort of fix for the MTech folder from hell.
I decided to experiment a little with the pivot and I swapped the MTech pivot with one from a Frost Cutlery folder.
The Frost Cutlery pivot fit with a little help from a plastic spacer I picked up from who the hell knows where. It's still a little hard to open, but not nearly as bad as it previously was.
It'll still be a part of my collection, but it likely won't see any kind of use.
Another thing I noticed is the flipper tab is a bit short and if it were just a bit longer, it'd give the user a bit more leverage in order to successfully deploy the blade more consistently.
Even putting something like a thumb stud on it would help.
Sharpened up my knock-off Mora, the Jellas.
Got it reasonably sharp. But truly, it's no mora companion.
Not a bad knife, and still a great bargain. But, the mora is better and worth the few bucks more.
Got in my Tops MSK. I don't normally care much about EDC knives if they aren't SAKs but I really love this one.
Carrying for a week or so. Tried with an Ulticlip but wearing it as a neck knife under a flannel shirt has been best.
Spendy at a hundred bucks but I've done a lot of stuff with it so far - even got to baton kindling with my 4-year-old. Pretty tickled.
I just found out that Olight sells knives now.
There was a video that popped up in my YouTube recommendations (from Doc91PB) and he shows a couple Olight knives. The ones he got were the new Spurdog (list price is $50.99) and one called the Rubato which is apparently one that Olight has been selling for a bit now.
I like the looks of the Rubato a bit more than the Spurdog, but I may end up signing up for an Olight account so I can buy either one.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on April 18, 2023, 06:53:07 PMI just found out that Olight sells knives now.
There was a video that popped up in my YouTube recommendations (from Doc91PB) and he shows a couple Olight knives. The ones he got were the new Spurdog (list price is $50.99) and one called the Rubato which is apparently one that Olight has been selling for a bit now.
I like the looks of the Rubato a bit more than the Spurdog, but I may end up signing up for an Olight account so I can buy either one.
Olight knives are made for them by Kizer and are slightly changed versions of existing Kizer knives. I have an Olight Parrot (https://olightworld.com/product/parrot) that I got for free from them and it's a pretty nice knife. I'll show it to you when I get down your way this summer.
I certainly like the one Kizer I own.
Quote from: NT2C on April 18, 2023, 07:42:02 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on April 18, 2023, 06:53:07 PMI just found out that Olight sells knives now.
There was a video that popped up in my YouTube recommendations (from Doc91PB) and he shows a couple Olight knives. The ones he got were the new Spurdog (list price is $50.99) and one called the Rubato which is apparently one that Olight has been selling for a bit now.
I like the looks of the Rubato a bit more than the Spurdog, but I may end up signing up for an Olight account so I can buy either one.
Olight knives are made for them by Kizer and are slightly changed versions of existing Kizer knives. I have an Olight Parrot (https://olightworld.com/product/parrot) that I got for free from them and it's a pretty nice knife. I'll show it to you when I get down your way this summer.
I was figuring Olight had the knives made by someone else.
For some reason I was thinking either Civivi or maybe Ganzo made the Olight knives.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on April 18, 2023, 08:13:32 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 18, 2023, 07:42:02 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on April 18, 2023, 06:53:07 PMI just found out that Olight sells knives now.
There was a video that popped up in my YouTube recommendations (from Doc91PB) and he shows a couple Olight knives. The ones he got were the new Spurdog (list price is $50.99) and one called the Rubato which is apparently one that Olight has been selling for a bit now.
I like the looks of the Rubato a bit more than the Spurdog, but I may end up signing up for an Olight account so I can buy either one.
Olight knives are made for them by Kizer and are slightly changed versions of existing Kizer knives. I have an Olight Parrot (https://olightworld.com/product/parrot) that I got for free from them and it's a pretty nice knife. I'll show it to you when I get down your way this summer.
I was figuring Olight had the knives made by someone else.
For some reason I was thinking either Civivi or maybe Ganzo made the Olight knives.
Look at the Olight knives and compare them to what Kizer is offering. You'll notice the similarities right away, with just small changes to the designs.
Quote from: NT2C on April 18, 2023, 08:54:24 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on April 18, 2023, 08:13:32 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 18, 2023, 07:42:02 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on April 18, 2023, 06:53:07 PMI just found out that Olight sells knives now.
There was a video that popped up in my YouTube recommendations (from Doc91PB) and he shows a couple Olight knives. The ones he got were the new Spurdog (list price is $50.99) and one called the Rubato which is apparently one that Olight has been selling for a bit now.
I like the looks of the Rubato a bit more than the Spurdog, but I may end up signing up for an Olight account so I can buy either one.
Olight knives are made for them by Kizer and are slightly changed versions of existing Kizer knives. I have an Olight Parrot (https://olightworld.com/product/parrot) that I got for free from them and it's a pretty nice knife. I'll show it to you when I get down your way this summer.
I was figuring Olight had the knives made by someone else.
For some reason I was thinking either Civivi or maybe Ganzo made the Olight knives.
Look at the Olight knives and compare them to what Kizer is offering. You'll notice the similarities right away, with just small changes to the designs.
I'll have to start paying more attention to them now. I had no idea Olight even sold knives.
I've always just known them as a flashlight company.
So I took a look at Kizer's stuff and compared the Olight Rubato to a couple that Knife Center had. One was the Drop Bear and the other was the Kizer Escort.
Those were the only ones I found with an Axis lock like Benchmade's stuff has.
The Olight Parrot looks a bit like two other Kizer knives. That one looks similar to the Kizer Contrail and the Kizer WPK.
And the new Olight Spurdog looks similar to the Kizer Lan.
Light exploding knives! Sweet!
I seemed to have acquired another itty bitty teeny weeny little stabby pointy thingy, this one from a certain forum admin:
(https://i.imgur.com/1tFIQ3v.jpg)
:awesome:
Quote from: Anianna on April 25, 2023, 03:03:26 PMI seemed to have acquired another itty bitty teeny weeny little stabby pointy thingy, this one from a certain forum admin:
(https://i.imgur.com/1tFIQ3v.jpg)
:awesome:
I love that the knife is about the same size as the "enter" key on your keyboard. :smiley_clap:
Quote from: Anianna on April 25, 2023, 03:03:26 PMI seemed to have acquired another itty bitty teeny weeny little stabby pointy thingy, this one from a certain forum admin:
(https://i.imgur.com/1tFIQ3v.jpg)
:awesome:
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Quote from: majorhavoc on April 25, 2023, 08:09:32 PMQuote from: Anianna on April 25, 2023, 03:03:26 PMI seemed to have acquired another itty bitty teeny weeny little stabby pointy thingy, this one from a certain forum admin:
(https://i.imgur.com/1tFIQ3v.jpg)
:awesome:
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Yep, I should have tried to get them in bulk. I just bought two more, one for Wee Drop and the other to hang on to for future gifting. With shipping, they're about $7 ea. ($5 with the free shipping that takes 2 months). Maybe I should buy a gross of 'em on Alibaba?
Quote from: NT2C on April 25, 2023, 09:05:44 PMQuote from: majorhavoc on April 25, 2023, 08:09:32 PMQuote from: Anianna on April 25, 2023, 03:03:26 PMI seemed to have acquired another itty bitty teeny weeny little stabby pointy thingy, this one from a certain forum admin:
(https://i.imgur.com/1tFIQ3v.jpg)
:awesome:
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Yep, I should have tried to get them in bulk. I just bought two more, one for Wee Drop and the other to hang on to for future gifting. With shipping, they're about $7 ea. ($5 with the free shipping that takes 2 months). Maybe I should buy a gross of 'em on Alibaba?
Can you ever have too many tiny knives? :icon_crazy:
@12_Gauge_Chimp y'all want another PoS knife? Someone gifted me a Kershaw 2022 PROMO 2 (came as part of a three pack of knives for $20-$25 last year at Walmart). It's an assisted flipper with a half-assed edge and so much side-to-side blade play you worry it's going to miss if you try to stick it in something.
Quote from: NT2C on April 30, 2023, 10:07:42 PM@12_Gauge_Chimp y'all want another PoS knife? Someone gifted me a Kershaw 2022 PROMO 2 (came as part of a three pack of knives for $20-$25 last year at Walmart). It's an assisted flipper with a half-assed edge and so much side-to-side blade play you worry it's going to miss if you try to stick it in something.
Sure. Send it my way.
I sort of fixed that MTech folder, so I can try to fix this one as well.
Got my Estwing tanto from the slogan contest yesterday and it's a nice blade.
It's also really shiny too. I can almost use it as a mirror, but I won't lest my ugly mug crack the blade. :smiley_crocodile:
I've taken to calling it my Ukrainian knife since it's the same colors as the Ukrainian flag.
Thanks again, NT2C, for sending it to me. This is probably the first thing I've ever won in any sort of contest. :smiley_clap:
I won two sets of lingerie once at a pool hall raffle. These lingerie models were walking around the hall in the lingerie and selling the tickets. I won on two different drawings that I think it was a dollar an entry. I was there with my GF.
So I gave them to her. [So no comments :smiley_thefinger: ]
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Quote from: MacWa77ace on May 11, 2023, 02:58:16 PMI won two sets of lingerie once at a pool hall raffle. These lingerie models were walking around the hall in the lingerie and selling the tickets. I won on two different drawings that I think it was a dollar an entry. I was there with my GF.
So I gave them to her. [So no comments :smiley_thefinger: ]
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So, your GF was okay with
used underwear? :smiley_nah: :clownshoes:
For anyone interested (and for who wants to see something other than Sean Connery in a red diaper :gonk:), here's that Estwing tanto I mentioned earlier.
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I received my slogan contest loot knife today also. It's almost too pretty to use.. Almost :smiley_clap: Thanks...
Potentially stupid question.
Y'all have seen those commercials for the Cerakote clear ceramic paint sealant for cars on TV, right ?
I saw it again last night and I started wondering if it'd work as a protective finish on carbon steel knives. It probably wouldn't work very well since it's moreso designed for car paint and not knife steel, but it may be an interesting experiment to try.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 28, 2023, 05:44:40 PMPotentially stupid question.
Y'all have seen those commercials for the Cerakote clear ceramic paint sealant for cars on TV, right ?
I saw it again last night and I started wondering if it'd work as a protective finish on carbon steel knives. It probably wouldn't work very well since it's moreso designed for car paint and not knife steel, but it may be an interesting experiment to try.
Have not seen that ad, but Tops does clear Cerakote on a few knives I think. Supposedly my version of the MSK has it (Rockies Edition).
If it's similar it's probably worth trying. I like it better than their black powdercoat.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 28, 2023, 05:44:40 PMPotentially stupid question.
Y'all have seen those commercials for the Cerakote clear ceramic paint sealant for cars on TV, right ?
I saw it again last night and I started wondering if it'd work as a protective finish on carbon steel knives. It probably wouldn't work very well since it's moreso designed for car paint and not knife steel, but it may be an interesting experiment to try.
Do it on a cheap carbon mora and see how it goes.
I don't see why it wouldn't work well...
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on June 04, 2023, 01:41:56 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 28, 2023, 05:44:40 PMPotentially stupid question.
Y'all have seen those commercials for the Cerakote clear ceramic paint sealant for cars on TV, right ?
I saw it again last night and I started wondering if it'd work as a protective finish on carbon steel knives. It probably wouldn't work very well since it's moreso designed for car paint and not knife steel, but it may be an interesting experiment to try.
Do it on a cheap carbon mora and see how it goes.
I don't see why it wouldn't work well...
That's a good idea, JC.
I've got a carbon Mora, but I don't want to potentially mess that one up.
So this gives me an excuse to buy another one or some other cheap carbon steel knife to test this idea on.
Stopped at a yard sale today and picked up an interesting little pocket knife.
It was rusted a little, but just on the surface. A quick bit of cleaning and oiling got the majority of the rust off. There's still some staining on the blades, but it looks a lot better than it did before.
I'll try and upload some pics later.
Looking at the ricasso on the main blade, I found a marking that says "Y-B Cigars" and a quick bit of Googling tells me this company sold these knives as promotional items from 1949 to about 1952 and they'd engrave the buyer's name on the celluloid hande scales.
Apparently, my knife was ordered by someone named "Hoot" Hart.
As promised, here's a pic of the knife I bought today.
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Did they say how many were made and sold? And by whom? [rare = collectable = valuable]
I found the one you have on etsy for $10 and then this one for $275
https://antiqueadvertising.com/free-antique-price-guide/antique-tobacco/y-b-cigars-pocket-knife/
When I was looking this up I found this photo. It's I knife I 'have', but I haven't seen this in forever and even forgot about it. It was tiny. Wonder where it went to? :smiley_shrug:
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And I found a photo of the one I had in second grade. Got it for daycamp, 'cause everyone else had one.
Imperial
IIRC it broke.
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I couldn't find anything on how many knives were made or sold or even who they were made by.
I couldn't even find anything on Y-B Cigars.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 06, 2023, 02:51:13 PMI couldn't find anything on how many knives were made or sold or even who they were made by.
I couldn't even find anything on Y-B Cigars.
http://www.tinviennaartplates.com/catablog-items/y-b-cigars/
Quote from: MacWa77ace on July 06, 2023, 03:05:44 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 06, 2023, 02:51:13 PMI couldn't find anything on how many knives were made or sold or even who they were made by.
I couldn't even find anything on Y-B Cigars.
http://www.tinviennaartplates.com/catablog-items/y-b-cigars/
Neat.
So Y-B Cigars was in business around from 1879 to 1966 ?
That explains why I'd never heard of them since they went out of business well before I was born.
Hearing that Ontario got sold to a third party.
Pulled the trigger on an RTAK just in case it turns into yet another buy & outsource exercise.
Quote from: Lodewijk on July 15, 2023, 03:31:26 PMHearing that Ontario got sold to a third party.
Pulled the trigger on an RTAK just in case it turns into yet another buy & outsource exercise.
Apparently they got sold to some place called Blue Ridge Knives based in Virginia back in March.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 15, 2023, 03:51:17 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on July 15, 2023, 03:31:26 PMHearing that Ontario got sold to a third party.
Pulled the trigger on an RTAK just in case it turns into yet another buy & outsource exercise.
Apparently they got sold to some place called Blue Ridge Knives based in Virginia back in March.
Yes - sounds like there was a decision made in late June though. Either the transaction is finalized now (sometimes does take a while), or the new ownership group pulled the trigger on something operationally.
Hearing from multiple places that the existing company (i.e. OKC) is being dissolved and the NY facility closed. Not sure how to validate though.
Supposedly the last day for most of the workforce is 7/27, but I'm reading this secondhand.
Quote from: Lodewijk on July 15, 2023, 04:47:20 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 15, 2023, 03:51:17 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on July 15, 2023, 03:31:26 PMHearing that Ontario got sold to a third party.
Pulled the trigger on an RTAK just in case it turns into yet another buy & outsource exercise.
Apparently they got sold to some place called Blue Ridge Knives based in Virginia back in March.
Yes - sounds like there was a decision made in late June though. Either the transaction is finalized now (sometimes does take a while), or the new ownership group pulled the trigger on something operationally.
Hearing from multiple places that the existing company (i.e. OKC) is being dissolved and the NY facility closed. Not sure how to validate though.
Supposedly the last day for most of the workforce is 7/27, but I'm reading this secondhand.
I heard they're wild be over 50 layoffs, didn't hear about shutting things down but sadly I'm not surprised.
Hope it doesn't turn into a crappy rebranded junk knives from China
From what I read, about 56 people will be losing their jobs when Ontario closes their current factory and moves to Virginia where Blue Ridge has their facilities.
If Blue Ridge keeps the same quality for Ontario as Ontario did, I'm fine with the sale.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 15, 2023, 05:42:06 PMFrom what I read, about 56 people will be losing their jobs when Ontario closes their current factory and moves to Virginia where Blue Ridge has their facilities.
If Blue Ridge keeps the same quality for Ontario as Ontario did, I'm fine with the sale.
That's a decent-sized if. Believe Blue Ridge is a distributor but could be wrong... not exactly sure what production facilities they have.
Not that I'm saying it'll happen, but knives seem like a pretty easy match for outsourcing to China. If I had to roleplay an American MBA grad looking at Ontario, I'd be looking to do exactly that because all you really need are the IP rights and a supplier. Why bother with all the overhead? Not sure it'll gain you anything in that market.
Could be way off base, who knows.
There's a bunch of knives coming out of China these days that are pretty good and not too expensive.
If Blue Ridge does outsource the Ontario knives, which they likely will, I'm hoping the quality will stay the same and not slip too much.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 15, 2023, 08:31:59 PMThere's a bunch of knives coming out of China these days that are pretty good and not too expensive.
If Blue Ridge does outsource the Ontario knives, which they likely will, I'm hoping the quality will stay the same and not slip too much.
Looks like you got one of the last NYS made ones then.
Quote from: NT2C on July 15, 2023, 11:54:47 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 15, 2023, 08:31:59 PMThere's a bunch of knives coming out of China these days that are pretty good and not too expensive.
If Blue Ridge does outsource the Ontario knives, which they likely will, I'm hoping the quality will stay the same and not slip too much.
Looks like you got one of the last NYS made ones then.
Yep.
I wonder if this means the NYS made Ontario knives will now fetch a higher price on the secondary market.
Credible second-hand info / copy-pasting from a BCUSA member who called Blue Ridge:
1) They *did* buy the equipment, and they plan to sell that off. He said it's just not viable for BRK, a Virginia company, to learn the ins and outs of operating the NY factory.
2) They will continue producing BRK products, but now using OEM manufacturing partners. He said the military items in particular need to stay in the US, but he did acknowledge that there will probably be international sources for some items. That's not so different from the current production model, where some sheaths come from China, the RAT folder comes from Taiwan, etc.
3) He said it will probably be January at the earliest before new product starts hitting the shelves. So there will probably be a dry spell, and it probably already started.
So no, Blue Ridge isn't going to make anything in-house and yes, sounds like it's going to be 100% outsourced.
I'd rather not roll the dice on that one particular knife I want surviving both product rationalization and an outsourcing decision, so guess I'm glad I have an RTAK II coming.
Having been on both sides of the outsourcing thing I can't say doing it is inherently good or bad. At the peak of our deserved unpopularity, Remington was the OEM supplier for an upmarket / boutique-ish handgun company and nobody had a clue (because the OEM parts we made for them were good).
SKU rationalization is what I'd be more concerned with. Good time to kill off the lower-volume or lower-margin stuff, and which products those are isn't always obvious.
Well, crap. :gonk:
Quote from: Lodewijk on July 17, 2023, 06:24:29 PMCredible second-hand info / copy-pasting from a BCUSA member who called Blue Ridge:
1) They *did* buy the equipment, and they plan to sell that off. He said it's just not viable for BRK, a Virginia company, to learn the ins and outs of operating the NY factory.
2) They will continue producing BRK products, but now using OEM manufacturing partners. He said the military items in particular need to stay in the US, but he did acknowledge that there will probably be international sources for some items. That's not so different from the current production model, where some sheaths come from China, the RAT folder comes from Taiwan, etc.
3) He said it will probably be January at the earliest before new product starts hitting the shelves. So there will probably be a dry spell, and it probably already started.
So no, Blue Ridge isn't going to make anything in-house and yes, sounds like it's going to be 100% outsourced.
I'd rather not roll the dice on that one particular knife I want surviving both product rationalization and an outsourcing decision, so guess I'm glad I have an RTAK II coming.
Having been on both sides of the outsourcing thing I can't say doing it is inherently good or bad. At the peak of our deserved unpopularity, Remington was the OEM supplier for an upmarket / boutique-ish handgun company and nobody had a clue (because the OEM parts we made for them were good).
SKU rationalization is what I'd be more concerned with. Good time to kill off the lower-volume or lower-margin stuff, and which products those are isn't always obvious.
I'd be curious which company Remington was making stuff for... 1911 stuff??
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on July 17, 2023, 10:35:03 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on July 17, 2023, 06:24:29 PMCredible second-hand info / copy-pasting from a BCUSA member who called Blue Ridge:
1) They *did* buy the equipment, and they plan to sell that off. He said it's just not viable for BRK, a Virginia company, to learn the ins and outs of operating the NY factory.
2) They will continue producing BRK products, but now using OEM manufacturing partners. He said the military items in particular need to stay in the US, but he did acknowledge that there will probably be international sources for some items. That's not so different from the current production model, where some sheaths come from China, the RAT folder comes from Taiwan, etc.
3) He said it will probably be January at the earliest before new product starts hitting the shelves. So there will probably be a dry spell, and it probably already started.
So no, Blue Ridge isn't going to make anything in-house and yes, sounds like it's going to be 100% outsourced.
I'd rather not roll the dice on that one particular knife I want surviving both product rationalization and an outsourcing decision, so guess I'm glad I have an RTAK II coming.
Having been on both sides of the outsourcing thing I can't say doing it is inherently good or bad. At the peak of our deserved unpopularity, Remington was the OEM supplier for an upmarket / boutique-ish handgun company and nobody had a clue (because the OEM parts we made for them were good).
SKU rationalization is what I'd be more concerned with. Good time to kill off the lower-volume or lower-margin stuff, and which products those are isn't always obvious.
I'd be curious which company Remington was making stuff for... 1911 stuff??
We actually OEM'd for multiple gun companies, but only one was a fancypants outfit... there were 1911 parts in there, yes. I remember some pistol sights and other small stuff too, but that was out of the MIM shop and those went to other large gun manufacturers.
Remington Outdoor Company is dead and gone as a legal entity but the people we supplied are still in business, so I should probably stop short of naming names. You could piece it together if you Google hard enough.
I've got to stop looking at Knife Center's site. I've already saved a bunch of knives from there on my wishlist and every time I visit the site, I end up adding like five or six more.
My wallet still hates me from the last MidwayUSA order I made. :smiley_crocodile:
As promised, here's a pic of the knife I picked up yesterday during my trip to Midland with NT2C.
It's a B'Yond EDC Slim flipper with tan micarta scales and 14C28N blade steel.
Here's the knife.
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ETA: The blade is actually shinier than the pic shows, but there was a bit of overcast when I took the pic.
For a size comparison, here's a pic of the B'Yond EDC Slim next to a CRKT/Ruger Hollowpoint +P.
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Got an early birthday gift from my mother today.
It's a CJRB Pyrite button lock folder from Knife Center. :smiley_clap:
This is my first knife from CJRB and my first button lock knife.
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I am searching for something that don't exist. A single sheep's foot blade 2 3/4 to 3 inch's long, with finger flipper , and a linerlock. Thin handle scales would be better, and a handle that fits my hand, even with a shorter blade.
Quote from: Rednex on August 16, 2023, 06:00:14 PMI am searching for something that don't exist. A single sheep's foot blade 2 3/4 to 3 inch's long, with finger flipper , and a linerlock. Thin handle scales would be better, and a handle that fits my hand, even with a shorter blade.
If I were a smarter man and knew how to make knives, I'd make something like that.
But since I'm not, I'll try my best to find something similar for you, Rednex. There's bound to be something out there like that.
ETA: Found this over on Knife Center, Rednex.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KUV3488C2/kizer-cutlery-vanguard-mini-sheepdog-c01c-flipper-knife-154cm-satin-blade-od-green-g10-handles
If that don't work, here's some more results for you.
https://www.knifecenter.com/find-the-best/Sheepsfoot%20liner%20lock%20flipper
Thank ya Chimp butIi handled one of them and the handle is short for my hand. I got these for nephews for Christmas last year and handled one of them. handles to wide,
https://www.smkw.com/smith-wesson-exec-barlow-linerlock
If ya know what the Kershaw Chill is that but with <3 inch sheeps foot blade I envision. I'm picky I know.
Quote from: Rednex on August 16, 2023, 06:12:35 PMThank ya Chimp butIi handled one of them and the handle is short for my hand. I got these for nephews for Christmas last year and handled one of them. handles to wide,
https://www.smkw.com/smith-wesson-exec-barlow-linerlock
If ya know what the Kershaw Chill is that but with <3 inch sheeps foot blade I envision. I'm picky I know.
No worries on the picky thing, Rednex. I can be the same way sometimes.
Check those blades on Knife Center I linked to and maybe you'll find something like you're envisioning. I put in "sheepsfoot liner lock flipper" and a bunch of options popped up.
Also, Civivi now makes a version of their Elementum flipper with a Wharnecliffe blade (which is pretty similar to a sheepsfoot from what I've seen) for about 55 bucks. I might pick up one of those at some point as well.
Quote from: Rednex on August 16, 2023, 06:00:14 PMI am searching for something that don't exist. A single sheep's foot blade 2 3/4 to 3 inch's long, with finger flipper , and a linerlock. Thin handle scales would be better, and a handle that fits my hand, even with a shorter blade.
Don't know about the length but you can get ideas.
Thanks Mac i forgot about the QSP Penguin knives.
Y'all remember those Swiss-Tech knives I mentioned a few pages back ?
Well, they're now appearing on the shelves at Walmart.
Prior to this past week they were an online-only deal, but now they're available in stores as well as online.
I picked up one of Swiss-Tech's "Stahlern" fixed blades today at a local Walmart and it's pretty nice. AUS-8 steel, green canvas Micarta scales, multi position sheath (well, the belt clip rotates 360 degrees, so I guess it can be called a multi position sheath.) and a bonus ferro rod that fits into the sheath. I don't have the ferro rod in my sheath mostly because it kind of makes the bit that holds the ferro rod expand a bit and I'm thinking that'll cause problems with retention. So I leave it out and keep it in the rather nice box the Stahlern comes in.
For 40 bucks, it's not a bad buy. At least not to ne.
Walmart's getting five models of Swiss-Tech's new line, which are as follows: the Gerundet, Wurdig, Praktisch (which is a Leatherman Wave clone), Stahlern and the new Listig (which appears to be a copy of the Victorinox SD Swiss Army knife).
There's two other knives (well, one knife and one multitool), but as far as I can tell those are staying online-only for the time being.
Happy belated National Knife Day. [who knew]
Pretty neat. I like it
https://youtu.be/j5s24Lo5Xdo?si=eJrODdmfownjhZiA
That was pretty neat. I was wondering how he'd affix the pommel to the handle and I got my answer not too long afterwards.
I had figured he'd either weld it on or just epoxy it on there.
This video popped up in my recommendations the other day and it got me wondering if the guy faked it.
The guy is restoring a Victorinox Swiss Army knife (I forget the model. The Spartan, I think ?) and a lot of the comments are calling shenanigans on it.
Dude usually does pretty good work on his restorations, but this one leaves me a bit soured on his channel. He claims a viewer sent it in and that he'd get the viewer to explain to him how the knife got in that condition, but doesn't go beyond that. It's been about a week since the video went live, but there hasn't been a response yet.
Y'all watch the video and tell me if he's faked the damage to the knife or if a stainless steel knife like that can be rusted that badly.
https://youtu.be/T98g1DK9CGA?si=QS6CU0ak7LmQI2Yy
That same video came up on my feed as well. I thought the exact same thing when I saw the thumbnail, Chimpov. That bright orange rust looked brand new to me and likely intentionally induced. So I called shenanigans and refused to watch it.
I do find knife restoration videos strangely satisfying, but it frustrates me when they're faked.
I had it pop up on my youtube too.
I see a lot of them with piles of mud on it saying its rusted so bad, or the forced new rust saying its been gone for 100 years.
The sad thing is the guy usually does legit restorations, but my guess is views aren't high enough for his liking or he got duped by a viewer.
Which is sad seeing as how I was actually considering having him check out a knife I've got that I'd like to have restored. The collector value is gone (the scales are badly damaged, the blade's got a bend to it), but it's still a decent blade and worth restoring.
Re-looking traditional slipjoints because I actually found one I have a use for. My grandfather's old Schrade Walden 825 fits in my bottle bag kit, and I actually like it, so I put it there.
Right now I carry a SAK at all times, and use it for most things. 95% of the time I also carry either a neck knife (Tops MSK) or, if I can't tolerate that in a cluster headache cycle, a RAT folder in D2 (which more or less mimics the MSK).
I'm really struggling to see how a Stockman or a Trapper is any kind of step up. Neither one is exceptionally comfortable in the hand for extended carving, Case's slipjoint lockup can be pretty iffy in my experience, and at best they're heavier / less useful than my Camper or Forester (which are set up for firestarting).
The only one that seems like it's even a sidegrade is a locking sodbuster on a suspension clip in lieu of the RAT (like a Mudbug or something). But at that point... why bother?
I feel like I'm missing something.
QuoteI'm really struggling to see how a Stockman or a Trapper is any kind of step up. Neither one is exceptionally comfortable in the hand for extended carving, Case's slipjoint lockup can be pretty iffy in my experience, and at best they're heavier / less useful than my Camper or Forester (which are set up for firestarting).
The only one that seems like it's even a sidegrade is a locking sodbuster on a suspension clip in lieu of the RAT (like a Mudbug or something). But at that point... why bother?
If this isn't the voice of a true knife nerd, I don't know what is.
I mostly carry locking knives, but I do own a couple slip joints.
Last one I bought was a Case Sodbuster and that was only because it was an impulse buy. I was actually at the shop I bought it from to pick up a gun I'd ordered and they had a big display of Case knives.
Only one that was within my budget was the Sodbuster and it was like 35 bucks. Everything else was like 70 bucks and upwards.
Quote from: majorhavoc on September 03, 2023, 06:06:02 PMQuoteI'm really struggling to see how a Stockman or a Trapper is any kind of step up. Neither one is exceptionally comfortable in the hand for extended carving, Case's slipjoint lockup can be pretty iffy in my experience, and at best they're heavier / less useful than my Camper or Forester (which are set up for firestarting).
The only one that seems like it's even a sidegrade is a locking sodbuster on a suspension clip in lieu of the RAT (like a Mudbug or something). But at that point... why bother?
If this isn't the voice of a true knife nerd, I don't know what is.
oh my god what have I become
bushcraftusa did this to me, I don't even like knives I just use them in the woods
While browsing Knife Center's site, I believe I may have found the fugliest knife I've ever seen. :eek1:
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/RMKFBSBZBK/richmade-knives-custom-fat-bastard-flipper-knife-aeb-l-flamed-suspension-bridge-duplex-grind-cleaver-blade-zombified-black-titanium-handles
Wh... what the hell am I even looking at?
A thousand bucks. Made in Colorado?
I hate this state sometimes because that absolutely would fly here.
Quote from: Lodewijk on September 04, 2023, 09:30:29 PMWh... what the hell am I even looking at?
A thousand bucks. Made in Colorado?
I hate this state sometimes because that absolutely would fly here.
I want to know what the thought process of the designer was and what the hell kind of drugs he was on when he came up with this thing.
I honestly wouldn't pay 10 bucks for that thing let alone a grand. It seriously looks like something you'd find in a display case at a gas station.
Well this came out the CIVIVI Knives Elementum Liner Lock Flipper Knife 2.97" Nitro-V Satin Wharncliffe Blade.
The knife I been looking for, now to convince my self to buy it.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CIVC18062AF1/civivi-knives-elementum-liner-lock-flipper-knife-nitro-v-satin-wharncliffe-blade-black-g10-handles
So my knife autism has led me into old USA-made Schrades. I always wrote Schrade off as a dead company's name slapped on Chineseum, but I had been ignoring all the stuff that dead company made.
Sooooo I have a Schrade Walden trapper and a USA-made Uncle Henry LB7 coming in this week and the bill was less than half of what it'd cost to buy a Buck 110 and a Case CV trapper new. Cleanup projects for sure but that's half the fun.
Quote from: Rednex on September 07, 2023, 06:06:24 PMWell this came out the CIVIVI Knives Elementum Liner Lock Flipper Knife 2.97" Nitro-V Satin Wharncliffe Blade.
The knife I been looking for, now to convince my self to buy it.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CIVC18062AF1/civivi-knives-elementum-liner-lock-flipper-knife-nitro-v-satin-wharncliffe-blade-black-g10-handles
I've been looking at that one as well, Rednex.
I'm thinking of either getting the one with black G10 scales or the one with the black canvas micarta scales.
I'd love to get the Damascus one, but that's a bit more than I'd like to spend right now.
Quote from: Lodewijk on September 12, 2023, 12:43:28 PMSo my knife autism has led me into old USA-made Schrades. I always wrote Schrade off as a dead company's name slapped on Chineseum, but I had been ignoring all the stuff that dead company made.
Sooooo I have a Schrade Walden trapper and a USA-made Uncle Henry LB7 coming in this week and the bill was less than half of what it'd cost to buy a Buck 110 and a Case CV trapper new. Cleanup projects for sure but that's half the fun.
Occasionally I'll find old knives at some of the local antique stores, but a lot of them are priced way higher than they should be. Like I could buy a brand new Civivi or CRKT for less than what some of these places want for an old Schrade or similar knife.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 12, 2023, 02:39:31 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on September 12, 2023, 12:43:28 PMSo my knife autism has led me into old USA-made Schrades. I always wrote Schrade off as a dead company's name slapped on Chineseum, but I had been ignoring all the stuff that dead company made.
Sooooo I have a Schrade Walden trapper and a USA-made Uncle Henry LB7 coming in this week and the bill was less than half of what it'd cost to buy a Buck 110 and a Case CV trapper new. Cleanup projects for sure but that's half the fun.
Occasionally I'll find old knives at some of the local antique stores, but a lot of them are priced way higher than they should be. Like I could buy a brand new Civivi or CRKT for less than what some of these places want for an old Schrade or similar knife.
I assumed that maybe Lodewijk was getting vintage knives on eBay. Back in a former life, I was really into woodworking with traditional hand tools. If you were serious using a western hand plane for instance, you didn't bother with the crap sold by most companies today; you looked for a Stanley Sweetheart or a Sargent from the 1920s or 1930s, which are much higher quality than anything made today (with the exception of a Lie Nielsen or a Veritas, but that's a whole other deep dive). I used to pour over eBay listings to find good deals on rusty old specimens and then painstakingly rehabilitate them. Which, as Lodewijk says, is half the fun.
Yeah they're old. Schrade Walden was last used as a tang stamp in the 1970s.
The LB7 is newer but it's old enough to have a serial number. Probably older than I am.
Quote from: majorhavoc on September 12, 2023, 06:50:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 12, 2023, 02:39:31 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on September 12, 2023, 12:43:28 PMSo my knife autism has led me into old USA-made Schrades. I always wrote Schrade off as a dead company's name slapped on Chineseum, but I had been ignoring all the stuff that dead company made.
Sooooo I have a Schrade Walden trapper and a USA-made Uncle Henry LB7 coming in this week and the bill was less than half of what it'd cost to buy a Buck 110 and a Case CV trapper new. Cleanup projects for sure but that's half the fun.
Occasionally I'll find old knives at some of the local antique stores, but a lot of them are priced way higher than they should be. Like I could buy a brand new Civivi or CRKT for less than what some of these places want for an old Schrade or similar knife.
I assumed that maybe Lodewijk was getting vintage knives on eBay. Back in a former life, I was really into woodworking with traditional hand tools. If you were serious using a western hand plane for instance, you didn't bother with the crap sold by most companies today; you looked for a Stanley Sweetheart or a Sargent from the 1920s or 1930s, which are much higher quality than anything made today (with the exception of a Lie Nielsen or a Veritas, but that's a whole other deep dive). I used to pour over eBay listings to find good deals on rusty old specimens and then painstakingly rehabilitate them. Which, as Lodewijk says, is half the fun.
Ebay wants to act weird on mobile, which is mostly what I use these days, so I tend to avoid their site.
I do try to hit up local yard sales and estate sales to look for deals on old knives, though. I usually strike out, but occasionally I'll find something interesting. Whether it comes home with me or not all depends on the price on it.
Trapper's cleaned up. This thing's great.
Just scrubbed the rust off and polished a bit... dig how the patina looks on the spey.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gks2JBtd/20230915-091152.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvHW8jZD/20230915-091210.jpg)
Looks really nice. I usually get some pitting if its really bad. What'd it look like before?
Quote from: Lodewijk on September 15, 2023, 02:07:23 PMTrapper's cleaned up. This thing's great.
Just scrubbed the rust off and polished a bit... dig how the patina looks on the spey.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gks2JBtd/20230915-091152.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvHW8jZD/20230915-091210.jpg)
What did you use to polish the blade ?
I've got a Y-B Cigars promo knife from like the 40s or 50s and there's still a bit of tarnish on the blade where I cleaned off the rust. I took some fine grit sandpaper and got the majority off, but there's still enough on there to bug me.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on September 15, 2023, 02:28:52 PMLooks really nice. I usually get some pitting if its really bad. What'd it look like before?
Speckled pretty good with rust but nothing heavy, looks like it mostly just sat in a drawer. I have one pitting spot but it's in an inoffensive place, just at the base of the blade above the tang stamp.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 15, 2023, 03:37:55 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on September 15, 2023, 02:07:23 PMTrapper's cleaned up. This thing's great.
Just scrubbed the rust off and polished a bit... dig how the patina looks on the spey.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gks2JBtd/20230915-091152.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvHW8jZD/20230915-091210.jpg)
What did you use to polish the blade ?
I've got a Y-B Cigars promo knife from like the 40s or 50s and there's still a bit of tarnish on the blade where I cleaned off the rust. I took some fine grit sandpaper and got the majority off, but there's still enough on there to bug me.
Paste of baking soda and water, scrubbed each blade pretty good several times until it looked like I had all the rust off. Then a shop cloth barely dabbed in Mothers, just a very small amount of polish at a time, and did that a couple-three times over.
Went slow because I wanted to keep as much of what started to look like character as I could.
Brightened up a lot, but it was in pretty good shape to begin with.
Would something like Flitz work on knives with a little heavier tarnish ?
I've been meaning to pick up a tube of that stuff along with some dedicated knife lube (I've been using Lucas gun oil mostly these days).
Flitz and Mothers are pretty similar.
If you have a piece of steel that's discolored after removing rust (i.e. like the dark spots on my spey blade), and the idea is to get rid of them entirely, I'm guessing you'll need to remove them, not buff them.
Mothers is for finishing, basically... you might end up with a shiny piece of steel that's still more discolored than you want.
Sodium bicarbonate is supposed to chemically react with oxidized steel in ways that I only dimly understand, but it DOES work. I'd start there to see if anything else comes off that sanding didn't remove, and then polish with Flitz or Mothers 3-5 times to see what it looks like. Both of those things are cheap and you can always go to something more abrasive if they don't do what you want.
I like a little character in old knives personally. As long as the steel is like protected from further rust, I call it good.
Well Lodewijk got my mind a working. Went to Ebay to look at knives, Victorinox swiss army knives to be exact.
Well saw the low auction price's of $0.97 so made an account. I want to make a few one off SAK to my specifications. Buying new was expensive so now i wait for auctions to end to see final price. One seller i was watching sent me a message and offered it to me less then what it was listed for. Figure 8 bucks I wont loss much if I mess it up.
Then had an idea Christmas presents like a lot of 10 SAK classics for 15 bucks. I started this adventure yesterday after noon now look happened :smiley_blink:
Speaking of Swiss army knives, I picked up a Swiss-Tech "Listig" today while I was at Walmart.
It's a little smaller than I'd expected, but not by much. It's just slightly smaller than a Wenger Swiss army knife I've had for awhile. Instead of 1.4116 (or whatever type of steel Victorinox or Wenger use), the "Listig" uses AUS-8 steel for the tools.
And at $11.68, it's also about 10 bucks cheaper than the Victorinox SD it's meant to compete with.
Got another moose.
Tried out some knives this year when skinning/quartering/butchering.
Using boxing scores:
Havalon: 10/10. Crazy sharp as expected, but also likely to take a finger off
Mora carbon craftline: 9/10. Could do a whole moose with two factory knives without getting too dull. Much safer than havalon.
Knock off Jellas bushcraft 8cr Chinese bullshit: 4/10 blade profile sucks and I have to using this turd.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on September 22, 2023, 01:31:17 AMGot another moose.
Tried out some knives this year when skinning/quartering/butchering.
Using boxing scores:
Havalon: 10/10. Crazy sharp as expected, but also likely to take a finger off
Mora carbon craftline: 9/10. Could do a whole moose with two factory knives without getting too dull. Much safer than havalon.
Knock off Jellas bushcraft 8cr Chinese bullshit: 4/10 blade profile sucks and I have to using this turd.
Man those Havalon's are great. My brother bought 1 last deer season and we ended up using it on 6 different deer. They are crazy sharp, and you're right, they will take pieces out of fingers if you're not paying attention.
Just placed my second ever order with Knife Center for a Vosteed Raccoon pocket knife.
I picked up the model with the crossbar lock (basically a Benchmade Axis lock, but with a different name), black micarta scales and a cleaver style (looks more like a sheepsfoot/modified wharnecliffe style to me) blade made of 14C28N steel.
This will be my first Axis lock knife and my second with a 14C28N steel blade. My first with that steel was the B'Yond EDC Slim flipper I picked up when NT2C was down here on his return trip back to Virginia.
ETA: Knife Center sent me an email saying my Vosteed Raccoon shipped today. Might have it in hand before the end of this week or possibly the beginning of next week.
Ok so I made a thing , been on Ebay sourcing low cost Victorinox swiss army knives. I got 2 for $0.99. So my first "mod" was to take a Waiter but change out the corkscrew to a Phillip's screw driver. So got a waiter and a small tinker both 84mm versions. I ordered a carbide bit kit for my Dremel from Amazon 18 bucks for a 14 pack, and reused the brass pin stock from the tinker to pin the waiter mod. I ground off the key ring part too. I like doing this and it may become my new addiction. I need to get brass pin stock and a source for low cost Alox handle scales. Lord help my wallet.
Bone stock waiter https://www.victorinox.com/us/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Waiter/p/0.3303
Now the one I did the mod on.
Closed
(https://i.imgur.com/AB5IzGm.jpg)
Open
(https://i.imgur.com/ycDLwOs.jpg)
Thickness
(https://i.imgur.com/9nmz3k0.jpg)
It's thinner than the standard plastic handle tinker, mine is 1 tool wide, tinker is 2 tools wide. Has the 3 main parts I use daily knife, straight screw driver, and #2 Phillipe's . My next projects include a florists knife with Alox scales, and a kinda Barlow type one.
Flytanium makes some titanium scales for some of the Victorinox SAKs. They're not cheap, but they look pretty neat.
If I had the funds and the know-how to do it, I'd see about swapping the scales on my Victorinox Spartan with some titanium scales.
Anyone have knife brands that they avoid buying ?
For me that'd be Cold Steel. Not because the knives are bad, but because I have a silly superstition about them.
Basically, I bought a used Cold Steel Vaquero XL from an antique mall (think overpriced flea market with multiple sellers) and a few days later, my dad died.
I know it had nothing to do with me buying the Cold Steel knife, but since then I've avoided buying anything made by them.
Which isn't too hard to do considering new ones are too expensive for me and the quality has slipped a good bit in the last decade or so.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 31, 2023, 07:43:26 PMAnyone have knife brands that they avoid buying ?
For me that'd be Cold Steel. Not because the knives are bad, but because I have a silly superstition about them.
Basically, I bought a used Cold Steel Vaquero XL from an antique mall (think overpriced flea market with multiple sellers) and a few days later, my dad died.
I know it had nothing to do with me buying the Cold Steel knife, but since then I've avoided buying anything made by them.
Which isn't too hard to do considering new ones are too expensive for me and the quality has slipped a good bit in the last decade or so.
Interesting. A friend of mine just gifted me the Cold Steel Kyoto I he'd been carrying on a neck chain.
Quote from: NT2C on January 01, 2024, 12:24:25 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 31, 2023, 07:43:26 PMAnyone have knife brands that they avoid buying ?
For me that'd be Cold Steel. Not because the knives are bad, but because I have a silly superstition about them.
Basically, I bought a used Cold Steel Vaquero XL from an antique mall (think overpriced flea market with multiple sellers) and a few days later, my dad died.
I know it had nothing to do with me buying the Cold Steel knife, but since then I've avoided buying anything made by them.
Which isn't too hard to do considering new ones are too expensive for me and the quality has slipped a good bit in the last decade or so.
Interesting. A friend of mine just gifted me the Cold Steel Kyoto I he'd been carrying on a neck chain.
Cold Steel makes some decent stuff, I just tend to avoid them because of my superstition about them.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 01, 2024, 12:33:17 AMQuote from: NT2C on January 01, 2024, 12:24:25 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 31, 2023, 07:43:26 PMAnyone have knife brands that they avoid buying ?
For me that'd be Cold Steel. Not because the knives are bad, but because I have a silly superstition about them.
Basically, I bought a used Cold Steel Vaquero XL from an antique mall (think overpriced flea market with multiple sellers) and a few days later, my dad died.
I know it had nothing to do with me buying the Cold Steel knife, but since then I've avoided buying anything made by them.
Which isn't too hard to do considering new ones are too expensive for me and the quality has slipped a good bit in the last decade or so.
Interesting. A friend of mine just gifted me the Cold Steel Kyoto I he'd been carrying on a neck chain.
Cold Steel makes some decent stuff, I just tend to avoid them because of my superstition about them.
I actually just got a Cold Steel recon 1 s35vn gfrom a long lost family member for Christmas.
Kind of a pricey gift for someone I didn't know until this year, but I'll def be using it
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on January 08, 2024, 11:48:53 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 01, 2024, 12:33:17 AMQuote from: NT2C on January 01, 2024, 12:24:25 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 31, 2023, 07:43:26 PMAnyone have knife brands that they avoid buying ?
For me that'd be Cold Steel. Not because the knives are bad, but because I have a silly superstition about them.
Basically, I bought a used Cold Steel Vaquero XL from an antique mall (think overpriced flea market with multiple sellers) and a few days later, my dad died.
I know it had nothing to do with me buying the Cold Steel knife, but since then I've avoided buying anything made by them.
Which isn't too hard to do considering new ones are too expensive for me and the quality has slipped a good bit in the last decade or so.
Interesting. A friend of mine just gifted me the Cold Steel Kyoto I he'd been carrying on a neck chain.
Cold Steel makes some decent stuff, I just tend to avoid them because of my superstition about them.
I actually just got a Cold Steel recon 1 s35vn gfrom a long lost family member for Christmas.
Kind of a pricey gift for someone I didn't know until this year, but I'll def be using it
Wow that's nice.
Quote from: flybynight on January 09, 2024, 09:19:40 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on January 08, 2024, 11:48:53 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 01, 2024, 12:33:17 AMQuote from: NT2C on January 01, 2024, 12:24:25 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 31, 2023, 07:43:26 PMAnyone have knife brands that they avoid buying ?
For me that'd be Cold Steel. Not because the knives are bad, but because I have a silly superstition about them.
Basically, I bought a used Cold Steel Vaquero XL from an antique mall (think overpriced flea market with multiple sellers) and a few days later, my dad died.
I know it had nothing to do with me buying the Cold Steel knife, but since then I've avoided buying anything made by them.
Which isn't too hard to do considering new ones are too expensive for me and the quality has slipped a good bit in the last decade or so.
Interesting. A friend of mine just gifted me the Cold Steel Kyoto I he'd been carrying on a neck chain.
Cold Steel makes some decent stuff, I just tend to avoid them because of my superstition about them.
I actually just got a Cold Steel recon 1 s35vn gfrom a long lost family member for Christmas.
Kind of a pricey gift for someone I didn't know until this year, but I'll def be using it
Wow that's nice.
Yeah tell me about it, my biggest knife other than that is a $40 Buck then basically a stash of Moras haha
I'll probably lose it like a freaking jabroni
I got a fucking sword, y'all. This is what my husband gave me as an early Valentine's present.
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Nothing says 'I luv you' more than an implement of death and dismemberment.
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Nice.:smiley_clap:
My oldest brother gave me (well, he traded it for some scopes I'd sold him, but never paid me for.) a sword. It's one of those cheapo mall knife store/QVC rapier type swords and nothing as cool as Anianna's sword.
Closest thing to a fully functional sword I own is a 16 inch bladed kukri.
Ani, that's fucking gorgeous. And as I've said before, your hubby is a fucking genius. He's my hero.
Now all Anianna needs is a nice display stand for her sword.
I can recommend Knife Center since I've done business with them a couple times and both times everything went smoothly.
Blue phone cord would match the sword nicely...
I've been practicing with a bokkan (wooden training sword) for years, but this sword actually has heft to it. Once the kids move out and I have more room to practice, it's going to make for an excellent workout.
It's a sign of something that you can now get a William Wallace Medieval Sword at Home Depot (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Trademark-Stainless-Steel-William-Wallace-Medieval-Sword-w-Sheath-Silver-20-901117/320830717?irgwc=1&cm_mmc=afl-ir-10451-483420-&clickid=zruQUCRlPxyPURfWSKxUm0OHUkH2rdWdzS66wQ0). Not sure exactly what that something is, but I do know it's unequivocably good.
FYI#1: Comes with leather sheath
FYI#2: Discount code DECORXTRA10 knocks $5 off the price
FYI#3: Kudos to HD for a cheeky product description:
QuoteReclaim your FREEDOM from the tyrannical English king with this authentic William Wallace sword. This sword is a replica of the sword William Wallace wielded in the movie Braveheart. The blade is made of polished stainless steel and is double edged. The hilt and pommel are composed of polished metal and the handle is wrapped in leather. The sword comes complete with an authentic rough leather sheath that includes a strap to attach this 40.75 in. sword to your belt.
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I love how most of the reviews are just people trolling and the manufacturer of the sword is thanking them for the reviews. :smiley_crocodile:
This is the Home Depot equivalent of the Amazon "Three Wolf Moon" shirt and its hilarious reviews.
Also, I had one of those William Wallace swords years ago and while it's nice looking sword, it's definitely more of a wall hanger decor piece than an actual sword.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 13, 2024, 02:52:17 PMAlso, I had one of those William Wallace swords years ago and while it's nice looking sword, it's definitely more of a wall hanger decor piece than an actual sword.
Actual swords are fairly expensive. Somewhere I have some links to a few sites that sell actual swords. Both historical vintage and new made
ETA
https://oriental-arms.com/
https://www.faganarms.com/
Quote from: flybynight on January 13, 2024, 03:58:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 13, 2024, 02:52:17 PMAlso, I had one of those William Wallace swords years ago and while it's nice looking sword, it's definitely more of a wall hanger decor piece than an actual sword.
Actual swords are fairly expensive. Somewhere I have some links to a few sites that sell actual swords. Both historical vintage and new made
ETA
https://oriental-arms.com/
https://www.faganarms.com/
Yeah, actual swords can be pretty expensive.
Boker makes some decent budget swords and the ones that are decorative only, they'll put a big warning on the ad and the box.
So I'm going through my fixed blade knife drawer and I find a knife I forgot I had.
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I know nothing about it beyond my dad gave it to me when I was a kid and apparently it's valuable. Not sure just how much since I can't find much info on it online.
It's made by Taylor/Seto and apparently it was made in Japan in Seki City, which is where high grade knives are made. That's all I can find. No clues as to the value or anything like that.
Either I'm an idiot and not looking in the right places or there's just not much info on these knives.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 15, 2024, 05:08:21 PMSo I'm going through my fixed blade knife drawer and I find a knife I forgot I had.
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I know nothing about it beyond my dad gave it to me when I was a kid and apparently it's valuable. Not sure just how much since I can't find much info on it online.
It's made by Taylor/Seto and apparently it was made in Japan in Seki City, which is where high grade knives are made. That's all I can find. No clues as to the value or anything like that.
Either I'm an idiot and not looking in the right places or there's just not much info on these knives.
Yours is almost identical to this style so I'm going to say the value should be similar.
https://picclick.com/Rare-Taylor-Seto-Japan-Red-Bone-Knife-70th-325859648975.html
So it's worth about 50 bucks ?
I figured it wasn't going to be super valuable, which is probably why I put it in a drawer and forgot about it.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 15, 2024, 05:48:54 PMSo it's worth about 50 bucks ?
I figured it wasn't going to be super valuable, which is probably why I put it in a drawer and forgot about it.
Seems they're about on par with other low-mid-range knives.
Quote from: NT2C on January 15, 2024, 06:51:31 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 15, 2024, 05:48:54 PMSo it's worth about 50 bucks ?
I figured it wasn't going to be super valuable, which is probably why I put it in a drawer and forgot about it.
Seems they're about on par with other low-mid-range knives.
I figure it's about on par with the cheaper Schrade folders from a few years ago.
Definitely not as good as a Buck 110, which I also own, but it's also more of a "put it in a display case and never use it" kind of knife.
Is there some sort of plastic or resin protective coating on the brass parts of a Buck 110? I'm having issues with mine turning green on parts of the brass where I know there is a wear mark. I call it a 'wear mark' but if there is a protective coating on the brass its a spot WHERE it has chipped/worn off. And in those spots it looks like a 'coating' layer is missing.
No other parts of the brass are effected. It might be the green is corrosion from the leather treatment on the custom sheath I keep it in. [I know, don't keep it in that sheath] Its a nice sheath. :smiley_shrug:
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I'll try to get some pics of the green uploaded. I have to make sure every couple of months I clean it off. I just rub it with a cotton rag and it comes off. Rag turns green. Coating with oil doesn't help.
It's from the leather. Haven't you ever had brass cartridges in belt loops turn green before?
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 16, 2024, 08:09:31 AMIs there some sort of plastic or resin protective coating on the brass parts of a Buck 110? I'm having issues with mine turning green on parts of the brass where I know there is a wear mark. I call it a 'wear mark' but if there is a protective coating on the brass its a spot WHERE it has chipped/worn off. And in those spots it looks like a 'coating' layer is missing.
No other parts of the brass are effected. It might be the green is corrosion from the leather treatment on the custom sheath I keep it in. [I know, don't keep it in that sheath] Its a nice sheath. :smiley_shrug:
(https://i.imgur.com/agkXKl6.jpg?2)
I'll try to get some pics of the green uploaded. I have to make sure every couple of months I clean it off. I just rub it with a cotton rag and it comes off. Rag turns green. Coating with oil doesn't help.
My Buck 110 and Schrade LB7 do the same thing. It's from the leather making contact with the brass.
You might try some brass cleaner and a coat of Renaissance wax on the brass before putting the knife back in the sheath.
Quote from: flybynight on January 16, 2024, 08:53:03 AMIt's from the leather. Haven't you ever had brass cartridges in belt loops turn green before?
:smiley_shrug: Nope, I haven't started my 1860's collecting yet. Everything I have is polymer and nylon. This has been my only experience with brass contacting leather. But It only happens in those particular spots that look like a protective coating is worn off. in the other spots no issues. If it was pristine, I bet I'd have no issues and not even known to ask.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 16, 2024, 01:15:00 PMYou might try some brass cleaner and a coat of Renaissance wax on the brass before putting the knife back in the sheath.
Thanks, I'll look into that. I wonder what the protective coating is on those Buck's brass? Its not wax. I used a felt tip on my Dremel to clean it once a while back, but just rubbing with a cotton rag does about as good. And I've used Hopps 9 and various oils to clean and coat it too. But nothing keeps it from tarnishing in those spots after a month or two.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 16, 2024, 01:15:00 PMQuote from: MacWa77ace on January 16, 2024, 08:09:31 AMIs there some sort of plastic or resin protective coating on the brass parts of a Buck 110? I'm having issues with mine turning green on parts of the brass where I know there is a wear mark. I call it a 'wear mark' but if there is a protective coating on the brass its a spot WHERE it has chipped/worn off. And in those spots it looks like a 'coating' layer is missing.
No other parts of the brass are effected. It might be the green is corrosion from the leather treatment on the custom sheath I keep it in. [I know, don't keep it in that sheath] Its a nice sheath. :smiley_shrug:
(https://i.imgur.com/agkXKl6.jpg?2)
I'll try to get some pics of the green uploaded. I have to make sure every couple of months I clean it off. I just rub it with a cotton rag and it comes off. Rag turns green. Coating with oil doesn't help.
My Buck 110 and Schrade LB7 do the same thing. It's from the leather making contact with the brass.
You might try some brass cleaner and a coat of Renaissance wax on the brass before putting the knife back in the sheath.
I know a lot of brass parts/products do have a lacquer style coating on them depending on who makes them.
When I was in the USCG, we were instructed to removed all coatings from our brass belt buckles for inspection so it could be true brass finish that's polished... Because everything had to be made more difficult. That way finger prints would show. There is a slight tint so you couldn't get away with not doing it.
Naked brass tarnishes very quickly
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on January 16, 2024, 03:42:53 PMWhen I was in the USCG, we were instructed to removed all coatings from our brass belt buckles for inspection so it could be true brass finish that's polished... Because everything had to be made more difficult. That way finger prints would show. There is a slight tint so you couldn't get away with not doing it.
Naked brass tarnishes very quickly
Varnish, or lacquer, that's what i was suspecting. I'll try to get a closeup tonight. That's what it is I bet.
Well, a lacquer coating or varnish would explain the weird purple-ish tint my Buck 110 has on the brass.
My Schrade LB7 doesn't have much of a tint to it, but the brass is starting to get a patina on it. Moreso than the Buck 110.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 16, 2024, 03:35:29 PMQuote from: flybynight on January 16, 2024, 08:53:03 AMIt's from the leather. Haven't you ever had brass cartridges in belt loops turn green before?
:smiley_shrug: Nope, I haven't started my 1860's collecting yet. Everything I have is polymer and nylon. This has been my only experience with brass contacting leather. But It only happens in those particular spots that look like a protective coating is worn off. in the other spots no issues. If it was pristine, I bet I'd have no issues and not even known to ask.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 16, 2024, 01:15:00 PMYou might try some brass cleaner and a coat of Renaissance wax on the brass before putting the knife back in the sheath.
Thanks, I'll look into that. I wonder what the protective coating is on those Buck's brass? Its not wax. I used a felt tip on my Dremel to clean it once a while back, but just rubbing with a cotton rag does about as good. And I've used Hopps 9 and various oils to clean and coat it too. But nothing keeps it from tarnishing in those spots after a month or two.
I used to carry a Ruger Blackhawk .357 as a sidearm while hunting starting in the mid 1980's. So start your 1980's collecting . You can start here
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Now...
NOW Chop chop On brass bolsters of knives I've always polished them with a buffing wheel . Either with a Drill or Dremel and polishing compound. If I remember right. Vegetable tanned leather won't turn brass green
There's a guy I'm subscribed to on YouTube called "The Knife Doctor" and he uses something called 'Never Dull' on his brass bolstered knives like Buck and Schrade.
Come to think of it, he uses that stuff on the blades too. He also uses copious amounts of Rem Oil when he's cleaning whatever knife he's fixing too.
ETA: I also want one of those holsters for my 1911, just in a left handed version. Only guns I've got that I've got holsters for are my G17 and G21.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 16, 2024, 05:50:53 PMThere's a guy I'm subscribed to on YouTube called "The Knife Doctor" and he uses something called 'Never Dull' on his brass bolstered knives like Buck and Schrade.
Come to think of it, he uses that stuff on the blades too. He also uses copious amounts of Rem Oil when he's cleaning whatever knife he's fixing too.
ETA: I also want one of those holsters for my 1911, just in a left handed version. Only guns I've got that I've got holsters for are my G17 and G21.
https://epsaddlery.com/product/1930-austin-holster/
Quote from: flybynight on January 16, 2024, 05:56:53 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 16, 2024, 05:50:53 PMThere's a guy I'm subscribed to on YouTube called "The Knife Doctor" and he uses something called 'Never Dull' on his brass bolstered knives like Buck and Schrade.
Come to think of it, he uses that stuff on the blades too. He also uses copious amounts of Rem Oil when he's cleaning whatever knife he's fixing too.
ETA: I also want one of those holsters for my 1911, just in a left handed version. Only guns I've got that I've got holsters for are my G17 and G21.
https://epsaddlery.com/product/1930-austin-holster/
Nice.
Looks like I may have found my birthday gift to myself this year. :smiley_clap:
ETA: Or maybe not considering that holster is almost 200 bucks. :eek1:
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 16, 2024, 05:50:53 PMThere's a guy I'm subscribed to on YouTube called "The Knife Doctor" and he uses something called 'Never Dull' on his brass bolstered knives like Buck and Schrade.
Come to think of it, he uses that stuff on the blades too. He also uses copious amounts of Rem Oil when he's cleaning whatever knife he's fixing too.
ETA: I also want one of those holsters for my 1911, just in a left handed version. Only guns I've got that I've got holsters for are my G17 and G21.
Never dull is great! Polished a ton of boat parts with it. Used to polish my Jeep chrome too.
But, if you use it on something with a coating, it will get rid of it and you'll have to keep on top of maintenance.
Think of it like a "stripper" that removes the ugly surface. Not that kind of stripper....
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on January 16, 2024, 11:17:36 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 16, 2024, 05:50:53 PMThere's a guy I'm subscribed to on YouTube called "The Knife Doctor" and he uses something called 'Never Dull' on his brass bolstered knives like Buck and Schrade.
Come to think of it, he uses that stuff on the blades too. He also uses copious amounts of Rem Oil when he's cleaning whatever knife he's fixing too.
ETA: I also want one of those holsters for my 1911, just in a left handed version. Only guns I've got that I've got holsters for are my G17 and G21.
Never dull is great! Polished a ton of boat parts with it. Used to polish my Jeep chrome too.
But, if you use it on something with a coating, it will get rid of it and you'll have to keep on top of maintenance.
Think of it like a "stripper" that removes the ugly surface. Not that kind of stripper....
Two things you learn about quickly in the USN are Brasso and Nevr-Dull. What you learn is that Brasso works but pretty much sucks compared to Nevr-Dull, and that the Navy is only going to issue you Brasso. If you want the good shit you have to buy it yourself... and the ship's store will be happy to sell you some of the Navy's stash of the stuff. I got out of the Navy more than 40 years ago, and if I go walk into my kitchen right now and open the cabinet under the sink there's going to be a can of Nevr-Dull under there, and another one somewhere in the garage. Nevr-Dull will polish brass like Tinkerbell herself slid across it on her ass, leaving a trail of sparkles behind her. It's what Mr. Fucking Clean uses to polish his earring. It is the GOAT of brass polishes.
I'll look for Nevr-Dull the next time I go to Walmart. Stuff should be in the same aisle as the Brasso, right ?
Do you see varnish or lacquer coating?
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Will that Nevr-Dull take the coating off?
Nevr-Dull is petroleum-based and is essentially cotton wadding soaked in the stuff. It's highly volatile and I think the combination of the ingredients and the wadding itself (never throw away any of the wadding, just put it back in the can and reuse it, adding more as needed) which is slightly abrasive will wear through most coatings eventually.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on January 17, 2024, 08:09:44 AMDo you see varnish or lacquer coating?
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Will that Nevr-Dull take the coating off?
I think what you are seeing is just oxidation . I searched and found no mention any type of film that is applied
Quote from: flybynight on January 17, 2024, 12:25:50 PMI think what you are seeing is just oxidation . I searched and found no mention any type of film that is applied
Wait, sorry, yes, the green is the copper oxide. [the oxidation] Me too, I can't find anything that says there's a coating. Just strange huh?
ETA: hmmmm
How to Prevent Copper Oxide from Forming
The simplest way to keep copper, brass, and bronze from turning green is to just clean it regularly. It can take several weeks for the patina to form under average conditions.
That said, maintenance is a pain. So if you don't want to have to remember to clean your copper, there are some alternatives.
Clear coat options are the most popular for things like hardware and jewelry. This is an example of one that will protect copper from tarnishing or forming a patina. Honestly, though, there are hundreds of products out there that are designed to keep copper looking bright.
Clear nail polish can also work well to protect copper. This is more popular for things like jewelry, but it doesn't last as long as a proper hard clear coat.
A very old-fashioned way of preserving copper is by polishing it with beeswax. It takes a bit of elbow grease, but it does a very good job of protecting the metal from moisture and oxygen.
I like the beeswax method. When they say it takes elbow grease, I can't imagine it takes any more than polishing the copper or brass in the first place.
What about using that Renaissance wax that MidwayUSA sells ?
I know some folks use that to wax the grips on pistols, but I wonder if it'd also work on brass like on the Buck 110 ?
Look what followed me home from Walmart today. It's a CRKT LCK+ assisted opening folder. :smiley_clap:
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ETA: Ignore my phone shadow at the lower left.
Can someone explain to me what this $120 titanium screwdriver does better than my $20 Swiss-Tech 11 in 1 tool other than being made of titanium?
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/BIDTIEDSIIDLC/bigidesign-ti-eds-ii-frame-lock-folding-screwdriver-matte-black-dlc-titanium-handles-internal-rare-earth-magnets
The Handle/Scales are Titanium, the bits and internals are not. It's for the bling. :awesome: Functionally the same as your Swiss-Tech. Aesthetically, could get you laid when displayed in the right circumstances. Like opening your Lamborghini user manual's wrapper outside the nightclub. Next to your Lamborghini of course
What Mac said. Another way to answer the question:
QuoteA fool and his money are soon parted.
Quote from: majorhavoc on January 26, 2024, 03:13:14 PMWhat Mac said. Another way to answer the question:
QuoteA fool and his money are soon parted.
I figured that.
They've also got an 80 dollar titanium mini prybar/fidget tool too.
Apparently PSA is now getting into the knife game.
I popped over there to do some price checking on some parts for my oldest nephew's AR build and I noticed they had a section for "Kronos Knives" which is PSA's knife brand.
They look interesting and I'm fairly certain one of the knives in the line is made by Civivi. Not sure who makes their OTF, but I'm still interested in one for the price. Especially if it's an auto OTF and not a manual one like the Smith and Wesson one I picked up from Academy a couple years ago.
I picked up some Never Dull today while in Odessa and decided to see if my purchase was worth it.
It was.
I used a little bit of the cotton wadding (honestly thought Never Dull was a paste) on the brass parts of my Buck 110, Schrade LB7 and my Schrade Golden Spike fixed blade. After a few minutes worth of work, this stuff got the brass shining like new.
My only issue is the smell of the stuff. But for how well it works, I can get over the strong smell.
Wow. These are nice. Anyone ever heard of WeKnife B4?
https://www.weknife.com/collections/thumb-stud
Quote from: MacWa77ace on February 14, 2024, 07:44:50 AMWow. These are nice. Anyone ever heard of WeKnife B4?
https://www.weknife.com/collections/thumb-stud
Parent company of Civivi
Quote from: MacWa77ace on February 14, 2024, 07:44:50 AMWow. These are nice. Anyone ever heard of WeKnife B4?
https://www.weknife.com/collections/thumb-stud
I've heard of them. Like NT2C said they're the parent company of Civivi.
They're also the parent company of Sencut as well. WEknife is the more premium line, whereas Civivi and Sencut are the budget lines.
I've got a pair of the Civivi Praxis and they're pretty good knives. I think I paid like 43 bucks a pop for each of them.
WE is the high end Civive is middle ground, then Sencut is there value brand.
I have a few Civive and i like them.
Along the same lines, there's also Artisan Cutlery and CJRB which are owned by the same company.
Artisan is the higher end line and CJRB is the more budget minded line.
I have decided that I want a Case Seahorse Whittler.
Is there any pressing reason to wait for like a GEC equivalent at 50%+ more cost?
I just got a very, very dangerous phone call. I had placed an order with Knife Center for a couple of knives to be prizes in our contests. In the comments section of the order form I jokingly asked if they'd consider local pickup (I live less than 10 miles away) instead of the like $12 shipping fee. I say jokingly because AFAIK they don't have a sales counter here, it's just their HQ and warehouse.
They invited me down to pick up my order in person.
This could have drastic implications for my budget! :gonk:
Quote from: NT2C on May 06, 2024, 11:26:43 AMI just got a very, very dangerous phone call. I had placed an order with Knife Center for a couple of knives to be prizes in our contests. In the comments section of the order form I jokingly asked if they'd consider local pickup (I live less than 10 miles away) instead of the like $12 shipping fee. I say jokingly because AFAIK they don't have a sales counter here, it's just their HQ and warehouse.
They invited me down to pick up my order in person.
This could have drastic implications for my budget! :gonk:
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I'm sure your self control will prevail
Quote from: NT2C on May 06, 2024, 11:26:43 AMI just got a very, very dangerous phone call. I had placed an order with Knife Center for a couple of knives to be prizes in our contests. In the comments section of the order form I jokingly asked if they'd consider local pickup (I live less than 10 miles away) instead of the like $12 shipping fee. I say jokingly because AFAIK they don't have a sales counter here, it's just their HQ and warehouse.
They invited me down to pick up my order in person.
This could have drastic implications for my budget! :gonk:
Neat.
I've been tempted to put in the comments section of whatever I'm ordering "Please include a drawing of Homer Simpson eating donuts with a monkey" or something goofy like that just to see if they'd actually do that. :smiley_crocodile:
Someone I know on Facebook did something like that involving hotel reservations and a framed photo of Keanu Reeves and the hotel actually put a framed photo of Keanu Reeves in their room.
Well, that was interesting. Knife Center is now aware that we exist, the staff liked my uniform shirt (2023 edition of the staff Hawaiian shirt), their dogs (they have several dogs that have the run of the place) thought I was pretty okay for a guy reeking of cat, and they do not have a showroom.
They did have some swag though so I got a nice cloth bag with their name/logo on it, a big microfiber cleaning cloth also with the name/logo, a Civivi/WE Knife/Sencut 10th anniversary shirt (size 2xl), and the two items that I ordered.
Oh, and an invitation to pickup my orders there anytime, 0800-1600 weekdays.
:awesome:
Oh, and a WE Knife branded canvas rollup knife collection holder. Pretty nice bit of swag and I'll be giving it away in a contest.
So as most of y'all know, I have a bit of a personal superstition about Cold Steel and that's kept me from buying anything made by them.
Well, I learned the other night during a livestream I watch that Cold Steel doesn't actually make any of the stuff they sell. They just outsource it to a few other makers and slap their name on the boxes.
For example, the war hammers that Cold Steel markets are actually made by the American Tomahawk Company, which is owned by RMJ Tactical. Apparently they produce the war hammers for Cold Steel.
So, I figure if it's not actually a Cold Steel product, but one made by another company and just sold under the Cold Steel banner, then my personal superstition about Cold Steel's stuff doesn't come into play and I can buy one of those war hammers.
Which is great because I've been wanting one of these hammers for awhile.
Why not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
I was given this knife for my birthday. Only says 'Pakistan and 'Stainless' on it. (Sheath says 'Remington' but it was bought used and I suspect it was just something that fit fairly well, not original to the knife.)
(https://i.imgur.com/FRJOQ1T.jpg)
I know some of the knives from that area are junk and some are surprisingly good. I can't tell anything of quality just from looking at it. Feels pretty nice and I figure at the very least it's not bad to have an extra skinning knife around during butchering time.
Quote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 10:20:27 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
$39 from Tractor Supply
Quote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 10:20:27 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
$39 from Tractor Supply
That's where I was hoping to buy one from.
There's a Tractor Supply in my town not too far from my place and I'm hoping they have them in the store and not just on the website.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 12:32:43 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 10:20:27 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
$39 from Tractor Supply
That's where I was hoping to buy one from.
There's a Tractor Supply in my town not too far from my place and I'm hoping they have them in the store and not just on the website.
It's website only but can be shipped to the store.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/cold-steel-war-hammer
$42.57 with tax
Quote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 01:15:47 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 12:32:43 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 10:20:27 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
$39 from Tractor Supply
That's where I was hoping to buy one from.
There's a Tractor Supply in my town not too far from my place and I'm hoping they have them in the store and not just on the website.
It's website only but can be shipped to the store.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/cold-steel-war-hammer
I figured it was a website only thing. Probably the same for the Fallout game stuff they advertised in the same deal aa the war hammer.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 02:53:46 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 01:15:47 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 12:32:43 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 10:20:27 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
$39 from Tractor Supply
That's where I was hoping to buy one from.
There's a Tractor Supply in my town not too far from my place and I'm hoping they have them in the store and not just on the website.
It's website only but can be shipped to the store.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/cold-steel-war-hammer
I figured it was a website only thing. Probably the same for the Fallout game stuff they advertised in the same deal aa the war hammer.
Probably. If you can wait until around Memorial Day I can have it shipped to you.
Quote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 03:06:30 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 02:53:46 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 01:15:47 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 12:32:43 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 10:20:27 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
$39 from Tractor Supply
That's where I was hoping to buy one from.
There's a Tractor Supply in my town not too far from my place and I'm hoping they have them in the store and not just on the website.
It's website only but can be shipped to the store.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/cold-steel-war-hammer
I figured it was a website only thing. Probably the same for the Fallout game stuff they advertised in the same deal aa the war hammer.
Probably. If you can wait until around Memorial Day I can have it shipped to you.
No worries on that, NT2C. It's not an important thing for me to get right now.
I'm just trying to force myself to break free of this silly superstition I have about Cold Steel stuff.
Basically it's just me thinking out loud.
New EDC knife
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media-library-service-media/270622f2-9953-49d8-a69a-c7e0c03bf47a.__CR0,0,970,600_PT0_SX970_V1___.jpg).
I had bought smaller knife awhile back from this company and like it alot. The blade on it is big enough, but I wanted a little longer blade. So I got this one. You know the knife is sharp, when you cut yourself within minutes of opening the box it came in . :shades:
Quote from: flybynight on May 15, 2024, 12:00:19 PMNew EDC knife
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media-library-service-media/270622f2-9953-49d8-a69a-c7e0c03bf47a.__CR0,0,970,600_PT0_SX970_V1___.jpg).
I had bought smaller knife awhile back from this company and like it alot. The blade on it is big enough, but I wanted a little longer blade. So I got this one. You know the knife is sharp, when you cut yourself within minutes of opening the box it came in . :shades:
Cutting yourself on a new knife is mandatory. Isn't it?
(https://i.imgur.com/ejBwaHi.jpg)
I just got these throwing knives and cut my thumb putting one of the tip protectors back on before I even got everything out of the box. [the tip protectors are throwaways]
While the SOG throwing knives are the expected size, they are really light.
I got 'em 'cause they are the exact knife in my BF2042 video game. :smiley_shrug:
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.contentapi.ea.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fbattlefield%2Fbattlefield-2042%2Fcommon%2Fseason-03%2Fpatch-notes-3-0-assets%2Fkin-com-throwingknife.jpg.adapt.1920w.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=b62523d04a90881c49a00faa5262fe459b3f804d0b540443044218258a11dbc3&ipo=images)
Only reason I own a set of throwing knives is because my mom bought them for me when I was a kid and I had watched Danny Trejo in "Desperado" not too long before.
I actually still have the knives and I've never thrown them. I did use one to cut an orange when I was younger, though.
I bought a Cold Steel tomahawk years ago and my friends and I certainly got more than it's cost in entertainment throwing it. Not a very practical thing to practice, but fun.
So I was working on one of my Schrade/Old Timer folders and apparently the threads that hold the pocket clip screws in stripped at some point.
There was just barely enough thread holding onto the screws and as I attempted to tighten them down to finish up, the thread went "Screw this, I'm out." and gave up. And the pocket clip snapped right by the holes for the screws, so that's another issue I had to deal with.
My guess on that one is the metal was a bit too brittle from heat treatment (not sure if pocket clips are heat treated or not.) or there was a small crack from the initial assembly at whatever Chinese factory Schrade/Uncle Henry uses and no one noticed it during the QC phase.
Given that it's one of those 20 dollar two pack holiday folders, I'd be surprised if there was any QC beyond "Is it assembled in a knife shape? Yes? Package it up and ship it out."
So it looks like this knife just became my new "Beat the crap out of it until it breaks" utility knife. Other than the stripped out screw holes and the now broken pocket clip, it's still an ok knife. It's not fantastic by any stretch, but as long as it cuts what I need to, it'll be just fine.
@12_Gauge_Chimp See if these guys have a titanium one that fits your knife.
https://mxggear.com
One of these days I'm going to put them on my Cryo ll and Blur.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on June 19, 2024, 06:39:35 PM@12_Gauge_Chimp
See if these guys have a titanium one that fits your knife.
https://mxggear.com
One of these days I'm going to put them on my Cryo ll and Blur.
Those are neat, but I don't think they'd make a titanium clip for something as cheap as my Schrade/Uncle Henry folder.
Even if they did, I'd rather not spend 24 bucks on a clip for a 10 dollar knife.
@12_Gauge_Chimp it would make it unique.
It'd be like putting $4K worth of True's and Vogues and a $2K sound system on a $500 80's Dodge Dart.
:smiley_shrug:
It might make sense if the cheap knife were of sentimental value, I suppose.
Quote from: majorhavoc on June 19, 2024, 07:26:47 PMIt might make sense if the cheap knife were of sentimental value, I suppose.
True.
I'm ok with the knife not having a pocket clip at the moment. If I find another one at a yard sale or flea market, I might pick it up for parts.
I could also probably contact Schrade and get a new clip, but that only solves one problem.
There's still the matter of the stripped out screw holes and I don't have a rethreading tool to fix that.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on June 19, 2024, 07:22:35 PM@12_Gauge_Chimp it would make it unique.
It'd be like putting $4K worth of True's and Vogues and a $2K sound system on a $500 80's Dodge Dart.
:smiley_shrug:
With a slant six.
I'd do it in a heartbeat if I had the money and supplies.
Did a bit of shopping at the Odessa Walmart and left with a pair of Ozark Trail assisted openers.
One was 8 bucks and the other was about 4 bucks. I got the display one of the 4 dollar knife, which had some issues with the assisted opening mechanism, but easily fixed. It turns out whoever assembled it in China greased the absolute hell out of it.
Seriously it was so thick with grease, it looked like they'd lubed it with peanut butter. :eek1:
A quick wipe down later and it functions about as well as a $4.50 knife can be expected to. When it breaks, I'll just go buy another one (and probably have to tear it down and degrease it like I with this one).
The other one had zero problems out of the box. The only ding against it is the pocket clip makes for tip down only carry, but I can live with that since I don't really plan on carrying it anyway.
Here's a pic of the knives I picked up today.
The top knife with the wharnecliffe style blade was $4.50 and the bottom knife with the drop point blade was $8.00.
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Top knife looks like a Ken Onion knockoff.
Quote from: NT2C on June 25, 2024, 04:13:43 PMTop knife looks like a Ken Onion knockoff.
Yeah, it does resemble a Leek a good bit.
It seems like a decent little knife, though. Only complaint is the fact it was gunked up with grease from the factory, but that was easily cleaned up.
Another issue may be I have zero idea what kind of steel the blade is made of. It's definitely stainless steel, but what kind isn't known. The box is really sparse on what the steel is (it just says "stainless steel" on the box), so I doubt it'll be something like 8cr13mov or equivalent. More than likely, it's probably either 420j2 or some form of 440 stainless.
Picked up a WorkSharp guided field sharpener today while I was at Walmart again (had to go to the one in Seminole to pick up some prescriptions for Mom).
Used it to put a better edge on the Ozark Trail Not-a-Leek. It's not a great edge by any means, but it'll still cut surprisingly well.
The edge on it from the factory was ok, but I wanted something better (which I'm still looking for, but the sketchy steel probably won't let me achieve it.)
The other Ozark Trail knife I took to the strop side of the WorkSharp sharpener and with just a couple passes, it now cuts way better.
I went garage sale hunting this morning and found a used, but still in decent shape SOG Flash II folder.
It just needed a cleaning and a quick touch up on the edge and it was back in business. Biggest pain in the ass was during reassembly because of the spring for the assisted opening mechanism. But a quick YouTube video check later (and a few curses directed at whoever designed the spring) and it was good to go.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 13, 2024, 06:59:35 PMI went garage sale hunting this morning and found a used, but still in decent shape SOG Flash II folder.
It just needed a cleaning and a quick touch up on the edge and it was back in business. Biggest pain in the ass was during reassembly because of the spring for the assisted opening mechanism. But a quick YouTube video check later (and a few curses directed at whoever designed the spring) and it was good to go.
Great knife! I carried one of those for years, before I replaced it with an SOG Aegis.
Quote from: EBuff75 on July 13, 2024, 08:39:44 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 13, 2024, 06:59:35 PMI went garage sale hunting this morning and found a used, but still in decent shape SOG Flash II folder.
It just needed a cleaning and a quick touch up on the edge and it was back in business. Biggest pain in the ass was during reassembly because of the spring for the assisted opening mechanism. But a quick YouTube video check later (and a few curses directed at whoever designed the spring) and it was good to go.
Great knife! I carried one of those for years, before I replaced it with an SOG Aegis.
I'd heard the Flash II was a good knife, which is why I grabbed it as soon as I saw it.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 03:06:30 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 02:53:46 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 01:15:47 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 12:32:43 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 10:20:27 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
$39 from Tractor Supply
That's where I was hoping to buy one from.
There's a Tractor Supply in my town not too far from my place and I'm hoping they have them in the store and not just on the website.
It's website only but can be shipped to the store.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/cold-steel-war-hammer
I figured it was a website only thing. Probably the same for the Fallout game stuff they advertised in the same deal aa the war hammer.
Probably. If you can wait until around Memorial Day I can have it shipped to you.
No worries on that, NT2C. It's not an important thing for me to get right now.
I'm just trying to force myself to break free of this silly superstition I have about Cold Steel stuff.
Basically it's just me thinking out loud.
Late to the convo, but the one handed versions are probably more usable. But not Cold Steel, Estwing geological (come in various weights- which one suits you dependent upon your stature/biceps)-
https://www.estwing.com/shop/?filters=product_cat[94]
Plus you could make some cash by using them prospecting.
Quote from: Red Tamarillo on July 15, 2024, 06:17:31 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 03:06:30 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 02:53:46 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 01:15:47 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 12:32:43 PMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 11:03:43 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 14, 2024, 10:20:27 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 14, 2024, 02:05:40 AMWhy not just buy directly from the tomahawk company and cut out Cold Steel entirely?
Problem with that is they don't sell the war hammers themselves. They only make them for Cold Steel.
$39 from Tractor Supply
That's where I was hoping to buy one from.
There's a Tractor Supply in my town not too far from my place and I'm hoping they have them in the store and not just on the website.
It's website only but can be shipped to the store.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/cold-steel-war-hammer
I figured it was a website only thing. Probably the same for the Fallout game stuff they advertised in the same deal aa the war hammer.
Probably. If you can wait until around Memorial Day I can have it shipped to you.
No worries on that, NT2C. It's not an important thing for me to get right now.
I'm just trying to force myself to break free of this silly superstition I have about Cold Steel stuff.
Basically it's just me thinking out loud.
Late to the convo, but the one handed versions are probably more usable. But not Cold Steel, Estwing geological (come in various weights- which one suits you dependent upon your stature/biceps)-
https://www.estwing.com/shop/?filters=product_cat[94]
I didn't even think of Estwing. I've got one of their tomahawks and it's pretty well built.
Stopped by the Walmart in Seminole today and left with a pair of these knives (well, I bought three of them, but gifted one to a friend that works there.)
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If anyone has been watching knife YouTube videos lately, you'll recognize what these are. For those of y'all that don't, these are the Ozark Trail D2 Axis lock knives that have been all over Knife YouTube for the last couple weeks.
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Ozark Trail hasn't given it a model name yet, but several YouTubers have taken to calling it the Ozark Trail Dropout due to the similarities between it and the Kizer Drop Bear and Benchmade Bugout.
I may have had a hand in naming it the Dropout since it was first featured in a livestream by YouTuber "Knives, I Guess" (who is a friend of mine on YouTube).
The biggest reason for the hype on this knife on YouTube is the price. They're only 10 bucks.
You get a D2 blade and an axis/crossbar lock knife for only 10 bucks.
Another point for the hype is the edge retention of this knife.
"Knives, I Guess" did two livestreams putting each knife through what he calls "Cardboard Slayer" in which he tests the edge retention of a knife by cutting as much cardboard as he can before there's any noticeable wear on the edge.
Each stream he did on the Ozark Trail D2 knife lasted over 7 and a half hours. Dude got tired before the edge on each knife did. Last knife he tested that did that was a Kizer Sheepdog XL with 154CM steel and that stream went on for over 8 hours.
That's impressive! I guess I'll have to keep an eye out for these. :greenguy:
Finally caved in and got a Tac Tool. I have wanted one of these for a long time.
Stripped it, rounded the flat side a bit, and gave it a vinegar bath. Happy with how the forced patina came out.
Not sure about the plasticky scales yet... it's not bad but I'd prefer G10 or micarta for traction. Might as well go all the way.
(https://i.imgur.com/2MYuBVE.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/T1TkOlT.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/njADWbc.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hCBeg66.jpeg)
That looks really good! And I think you're right -- new scales would look (and feel, I'm sure) even better. :D
I don't know if they make different scales for the Tac Tool, but I know they make different scales for the short Becker BK16. They look like they'd fit a Becker TacTool since the grip seems to be about the same size.
Here's the link to them on Knife Center.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KABK16HNDL/ka-bar-bk16hndl-short-becker-canvas-micarta-handle-slabs-knife-not-included
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 19, 2024, 11:41:23 AMI don't know if they make different scales for the Tac Tool, but I know they make different scales for the short Becker BK16. They look like they'd fit a Becker TacTool since the grip seems to be about the same size.
Here's the link to them on Knife Center.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KABK16HNDL/ka-bar-bk16hndl-short-becker-canvas-micarta-handle-slabs-knife-not-included
Yep, either those micarta ones or the G10 from TKC is where my head went. I have an OD pair of TKC scales on an RTAK that I really like.
Not sure what color for this though. Black or blue with a hi-viz paracord lanyard was my first thought.
Quote from: Lodewijk on September 19, 2024, 12:07:30 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 19, 2024, 11:41:23 AMI don't know if they make different scales for the Tac Tool, but I know they make different scales for the short Becker BK16. They look like they'd fit a Becker TacTool since the grip seems to be about the same size.
Here's the link to them on Knife Center.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KABK16HNDL/ka-bar-bk16hndl-short-becker-canvas-micarta-handle-slabs-knife-not-included
Yep, either those micarta ones or the G10 from TKC is where my head went. I have an OD pair of TKC scales on an RTAK that I really like.
Not sure what color for this though. Black or blue with a hi-viz paracord lanyard was my first thought.
You might be able to dye those micarta scales with RIT Dye or something similar.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 19, 2024, 03:24:05 PMQuote from: Lodewijk on September 19, 2024, 12:07:30 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 19, 2024, 11:41:23 AMI don't know if they make different scales for the Tac Tool, but I know they make different scales for the short Becker BK16. They look like they'd fit a Becker TacTool since the grip seems to be about the same size.
Here's the link to them on Knife Center.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KABK16HNDL/ka-bar-bk16hndl-short-becker-canvas-micarta-handle-slabs-knife-not-included
Yep, either those micarta ones or the G10 from TKC is where my head went. I have an OD pair of TKC scales on an RTAK that I really like.
Not sure what color for this though. Black or blue with a hi-viz paracord lanyard was my first thought.
You might be able to dye those micarta scales with RIT Dye or something similar.
Yeah I did think about that. The TKC scales are $20 more but I'd have to buy dye... price is kind of a wash.
Ka-Bar used to sell black micarta scales but I haven't seen them in a while.
I remember those black Ka-Bar scales, but yeah, it's been awhile since I've seen any as well.
Ka-Bar may have discontinued them for some reason.
I wonder if the new KaBa /Becker aftermarket handle scales fit the old Camillus/Becker BK knives.
Quote from: Rednex on September 19, 2024, 06:39:13 PMI wonder if the new KaBa /Becker aftermarket handle scales fit the old Camillus/Becker BK knives.
They might. Not 100 percent sure on that one, though.
Y'all remember how I lost one of the bronze phosphor washers from my Spyderco Tenacious, right ? Well, I found the damn thing today by my trash can.
This may seem stupid, but I'm genuinely happy I found the washer. :smiley_crocodile:
Now both of my Spyderco Tenacious' have all four washers and work as intended.
I'm still not sure why Spyderco decided put four frigging washers when two would've been sufficient, though.
On unusual grinds.
After a little work the main edge on the BK3 is satisfactory and can shave.
The front "tip" is a big chisel, and while it's sharp enough it's not gonna really be slicey unless I thin it out a whole bunch.
I... don't think I want to do that? The whole point is that it's stout, and I think I want the main edge to be a "knife" with enough mass to chop, and the tip to have some meat on the shoulder so I can wedge it into something and then crank on it like a prybar.
This is a lot more thinking than I had to do with any of my bushcrafty knives.
@Lodewijk I wouldn't thin that front wedge at all. I don't think its meant to be a stabby tool.
Speaking of unusual grinds, at one point I was really going to get that knife and I was going to do an inverted tanto point grind on it to match a knife in Battlefield 4
This one known and the ACB-90:
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unitedcutlery.com%2FImages%2Fmedres%2FUC2589.JPG&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=e3d96156a20acbe885b9912a4c405c87ae27751dcab2b30e11285eb10d95f4d2&ipo=images)
www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/7dodsh/acb90_the_best_knife_in_bf4_how_i_made_a_real/
And I had already gotten this one from BF4. Smith & Wesson
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.aIxAnbdux_POM3KlhTUw4wHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=3f842ef4c65332112ad53c12ea12966151b613b084e89a318ebdf0f34c4a958f&ipo=images)
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 19, 2024, 07:48:43 PMY'all remember how I lost one of the bronze phosphor washers from my Spyderco Tenacious, right ? Well, I found the damn thing today by my trash can.
This may seem stupid, but I'm genuinely happy I found the washer. :smiley_crocodile:
Now both of my Spyderco Tenacious' have all four washers and work as intended.
I'm still not sure why Spyderco decided put four frigging washers when two would've been sufficient, though.
Even what may seem like small wins are still wins. Nothing stupid about that.
Quote from: Mr. E. Monkey on September 20, 2024, 08:23:15 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 19, 2024, 07:48:43 PMY'all remember how I lost one of the bronze phosphor washers from my Spyderco Tenacious, right ? Well, I found the damn thing today by my trash can.
This may seem stupid, but I'm genuinely happy I found the washer. :smiley_crocodile:
Now both of my Spyderco Tenacious' have all four washers and work as intended.
I'm still not sure why Spyderco decided put four frigging washers when two would've been sufficient, though.
Even what may seem like small wins are still wins. Nothing stupid about that.
I wouldn't even call it a "small" win. We're all excited about it because we're just a bunch of knife geeks! :awesome:
Like a good knife, you have a point. :greenguy:
I've been searching for those Wally World D2 knives and I can't find them local or online.
I'll have to check Walmart again cuz I kinda forgot about them the last month.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on November 03, 2024, 12:12:18 AMI've been searching for those Wally World D2 knives and I can't find them local or online.
I'll have to check Walmart again cuz I kinda forgot about them the last month.
Those knives have been sold out for the last couple months.
I got lucky and picked up three of them at one of the local Walmarts. Two I kept and one I gave to a friend that works at the Walmart I went to.
Biggest problem for those knives is resellers will buy every one Walmart gets in (which is like five or six per truck) and post them up on Ebay for two or three times what they paid. Last I saw one, the seller was asking like 30 bucks for it.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on November 03, 2024, 12:30:06 AMQuote from: JeeperCreeper on November 03, 2024, 12:12:18 AMI've been searching for those Wally World D2 knives and I can't find them local or online.
I'll have to check Walmart again cuz I kinda forgot about them the last month.
Those knives have been sold out for the last couple months.
I got lucky and picked up three of them at one of the local Walmarts. Two I kept and one I gave to a friend that works at the Walmart I went to.
Biggest problem for those knives is resellers will buy every one Walmart gets in (which is like five or six per truck) and post them up on Ebay for two or three times what they paid. Last I saw one, the seller was asking like 30 bucks for it.
Typical scalpers.
Ughhhh.
I don't mind people making money on a Hussle, but I hate when people scoop everything from big box retail and flip. People did the same thing here during COVID for ammo at Bass pro. Then go online and act like they are Gordon Gecko. Same with any new Gen video game as well.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on November 11, 2024, 10:38:42 AMTypical scalpers.
Ughhhh.
I don't mind people making money on a Hussle, but I hate when people scoop everything from big box retail and flip. People did the same thing here during COVID for ammo at Bass pro. Then go online and act like they are Gordon Gecko. Same with any new Gen video game as well.
When Walmart sold ammo they used to have this Federal Value box of 100 ct 223 for 34.99. Around 2009 IRRC there was another shortage and scalpers would go in and clean them out. Back then that was the only way I could afford 223 was to buy one or 2 boxes of 100 / mth. I was on the road back then also and so every walmart I passed I'd stop in and check, but they were always out. It wasn't a great price at .35/rnd but I couldn't affird to lay out 200 or more for a bulk ammo buy.
And the same thing happened with the PS5 when it first released. C0vid.
Similar thing after Sandy Hook with .22lr.
I bought two bricks of CCI .22lr from a local guy off Facebook (back when Facebook still allowed that sort of thing.) for like 60 a brick. Wasn't great, but it was still less than what other guys were paying for WWB from Cheaper Than Dirt.
I can haz... gladius?
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Gifted to me by a friend when he came by to help us take out some old TVs and monitors for pickup. Sucker is sharp too!
Quote from: NT2C on December 17, 2024, 12:36:22 PMI can haz... gladius?
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Gifted to me by a friend when he came by to help us take out some old TVs and monitors for pickup. Sucker is sharp too!
Neat.
I've got a spear made by that same company. Picked it up at Academy in Odessa a couple years ago and used it mostly when I'd take my dog Marli for walks.
It's now sitting in a corner by my bedroom door next to a shelf I've got all my Boston Terrier stuff on.
Why do companies like Gerber like using screws that strip out with the lightest pressure?
Example, I've got a Gerber Air Ranger that I needed to monkey with the lock bar (Gerber apparently forgot to adjust it properly, so it ran the risk of closing with minimal pressure. Bad idea if you want to actually use the knife.) and to properly do that, I'd have to totally disassemble the knife.
Yeah, that wasn't going to happen since Gerber cheaped out on the screws and LocTited two of them to Hell and back. I stripped two of them trying to get them out, so I ended up giving up on the disassembly and decided to try adjusting the lock bar as best I could.
It's not great, but it's a bit safer now and it'll only close if I mean it to. A new issue arose in that now the detent ball now snaps into place a few seconds after you close the knife. It's not a world ending deal, it's just kind of annoying.
That said, I'm done with Gerber's folding knives. Their fixed blades are ok, but their folders are really slipping in the QC department lately (ok, so it's more like the last 20-ish years, but still my point stands.)
I'm hoping their higher end stuff is nicer, but I'm not holding my breath nor wasting my money to find out.
ETA: Ended up snapping the scales in half trying to monkey with the lock bar again. Salvaged what I could and chucked the rest in the trash. Made sure to wrap the blade in a couple layers of tape to keep it from cutting the bag or me as I tossed it in the dumpster.
Got bored today and decided to try and fix that MTech assisted opener NT2C sent me awhile back.
Well, it's officially a lost cause. No amount of monkeying will fix the major design flaws of this particular knife.
I don't want to sell it being so unsafe. I'd rather just disassemble it, salvage what I can and put the rest of it in a drawer.
I'd toss it in the trash, but I'd feel bad doing so since NT2C sent it to me.
Other than the flaws, it's not a totally terrible knife. If MTech would just tweak the design a little, it could be a decent knife.
If I were MTech here's how I'd change the design.
1) make it a manual flipper instead of an assisted opener
2) make it a liner lock instead of a frame lock (alternatively, put an over travel stop plate ala the Gerber Flatiron to keep the the frame lock from bending out)
3) make it a tip up or down carry. It's 2025 and there's no need to make a tip down only carry knife anymore.
MTech probably won't listen to us consumers, though. They'll just continue churning out gas station/flea market quality knives and have it be business as usual.
Part of me wants to go to Blade Show Texas this year and see if MTech has a presence there and give them some input. Only problem is I'm a nobody in the knife world and they'd probably just brush me off.
Feel free to toss it, chimp. I'm not done sending you crap knives. :greenguy:
Quote from: NT2C on January 10, 2025, 02:47:57 PMFeel free to toss it, chimp. I'm not done sending you crap knives. :greenguy:
Roger that. I salvaged most of what I could off it, mainly the screws and the pocket clip.
Rest of it goes in the trash then.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on December 17, 2024, 03:08:38 PMI've got a spear made by that same company. Picked it up at Academy in Odessa a couple years ago and used it mostly when I'd take my dog Marli for walks.
It's funny. Swords and knives are cool and all, but every now and then I get that little voice in the back of my head that keeps telling me "you need a spear."
I really don't think I do...but...I think there's just some primal "itch" for a good pointy stick. Or maybe I have a screw loose. :icon_crazy:
Anyone got a source for those little black and yellow Lansky mini multi tools ?
I may or may not have disassembled the one I've got and it may or may not be an absolute pain in the ass to put back together (so..many..little..fiddley..bits :gonk:).
Amazon is no help and Walmart's site just brings everything but what I'm looking for.
Here's what I'm talking about.
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Here one place: https://ramseyoutdoor.com/products/mini-multi-tool
They're on eBay too: https://www.ebay.com/itm/294960529518?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=BB2BBFeRR02&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=fdwSv1vyQTq&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Or a whole bunch of them if you want: https://www.ebay.com/itm/176247306772
Quote from: EBuff75 on February 06, 2025, 04:58:55 PMHere one place: https://ramseyoutdoor.com/products/mini-multi-tool
They're on eBay too: https://www.ebay.com/itm/294960529518?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=BB2BBFeRR02&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=fdwSv1vyQTq&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Or a whole bunch of them if you want: https://www.ebay.com/itm/176247306772
Well, Ebay is out since I don't have an account with them and for some reason their mobile thing doesn't work on my phone (I get browser jacking pop ups whenever I use the mobile side and it's annoying.)
I'll check out my local hardware stores since I know I've seen the little displays with these things on them there.
I did get it pretty much all back together (after much colorful language and curses upon whatever moron decided to put six thousand spacers in the damn thing.), so now all I've got to do is fiddle with the spacers for the pliers side and I'll be back in business.
By which I mean this tool will go back into the drawer I pulled it from and never see the light of day again.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 06, 2025, 06:15:23 PMQuote from: EBuff75 on February 06, 2025, 04:58:55 PMHere one place: https://ramseyoutdoor.com/products/mini-multi-tool
They're on eBay too: https://www.ebay.com/itm/294960529518?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=BB2BBFeRR02&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=fdwSv1vyQTq&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Or a whole bunch of them if you want: https://www.ebay.com/itm/176247306772
Well, Ebay is out since I don't have an account with them and for some reason their mobile thing doesn't work on my phone (I get browser jacking pop ups whenever I use the mobile side and it's annoying.)
I'll check out my local hardware stores since I know I've seen the little displays with these things on them there.
I did get it pretty much all back together (after much colorful language and curses upon whatever moron decided to put six thousand spacers in the damn thing.), so now all I've got to do is fiddle with the spacers for the pliers side and I'll be back in business.
By which I mean this tool will go back into the drawer I pulled it from and never see the light of day again.
I was one of eBay's first customers, way back in the dawn of the internet. I still have my account and still use it. Just ask and I'll pick up what you want and drop-ship it to you. You can pay me back however you want to do it.
Quote from: NT2C on February 06, 2025, 07:02:51 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 06, 2025, 06:15:23 PMQuote from: EBuff75 on February 06, 2025, 04:58:55 PMHere one place: https://ramseyoutdoor.com/products/mini-multi-tool
They're on eBay too: https://www.ebay.com/itm/294960529518?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=BB2BBFeRR02&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=fdwSv1vyQTq&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Or a whole bunch of them if you want: https://www.ebay.com/itm/176247306772
Well, Ebay is out since I don't have an account with them and for some reason their mobile thing doesn't work on my phone (I get browser jacking pop ups whenever I use the mobile side and it's annoying.)
I'll check out my local hardware stores since I know I've seen the little displays with these things on them there.
I did get it pretty much all back together (after much colorful language and curses upon whatever moron decided to put six thousand spacers in the damn thing.), so now all I've got to do is fiddle with the spacers for the pliers side and I'll be back in business.
By which I mean this tool will go back into the drawer I pulled it from and never see the light of day again.
I was one of eBay's first customers, way back in the dawn of the internet. I still have my account and still use it. Just ask and I'll pick up what you want and drop-ship it to you. You can pay me back however you want to do it.
I've pretty much got the Lansky mini multi tool back together, so no worries on that.
ETA: Tool is back together. Had to remove a couple of the spacers in order to get it back together, but it's at least back together.
I am never trying to disassemble this tool again. I should've never done so in the first place.
In better news, I picked up a Mora Garberg a couple weeks ago.
Friend of mine from YouTube was offloading some of his collection and offered up the Garberg to me at a heck of a deal. Knife Center has the one I got for about 110 bucks, but I got mine for way, way less than that.
Only Mora I've ever owned previous to this is a Mora Companion NT2C sent me years ago (2016 I think ?), so now I've got an original Mora and one of the newer full tang ones.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 06, 2025, 10:08:42 PMIn better news, I picked up a Mora Garberg a couple weeks ago.
Friend of mine from YouTube was offloading some of his collection and offered up the Garberg to me at a heck of a deal. Knife Center has the one I got for about 110 bucks, but I got mine for way, way less than that.
Only Mora I've ever owned previous to this is a Mora Companion NT2C sent me years ago (2016 I think ?), so now I've got an original Mora and one of the newer full tang ones.
I keep a pair of stainless Mora's, one serrated, in the trunk of each vehicle. There if I need one but not apt to run me afoul of any laws or regs regarding weapons on military bases or federal facilities or crossing borders.
Quote from: NT2C on February 06, 2025, 10:40:09 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 06, 2025, 10:08:42 PMIn better news, I picked up a Mora Garberg a couple weeks ago.
Friend of mine from YouTube was offloading some of his collection and offered up the Garberg to me at a heck of a deal. Knife Center has the one I got for about 110 bucks, but I got mine for way, way less than that.
Only Mora I've ever owned previous to this is a Mora Companion NT2C sent me years ago (2016 I think ?), so now I've got an original Mora and one of the newer full tang ones.
I keep a pair of stainless Mora's, one serrated, in the trunk of each vehicle. There if I need one but not apt to run me afoul of any laws or regs regarding weapons on military bases or federal facilities or crossing borders.
I'll probably pick up a couple more Moras to do that myself.
Though I may only be able to keep one in BlueHawk and Momma Chimp's Explorer since Eldest Sister Chimpski works at the local high school and having one in her truck might be an issue.
Found a local guy on Facebook selling a Petrified Fish 868 Bunta folder at 150 bucks.
Retail on Knife Center for the same knife is $32.99.
Part of me wants to comment on the post informing him of the extreme markup he's got on it, but the other part of me is saying to stay out of it and let someone else comment first.
I'd rather not see anyone get ripped off their hard earned money, but I also don't want to start crap with someone online.
Facebook already hates me for asking someone to take a dollar sign off a post in a group before they got the group nuked because it wasn't a sales group. Someone flagged that and FB claimed I was "bullying" by asking the person to do that. :rolleyes1:
It's a nice knife, but massively inflated on the price and I'd hate for someone to get ripped off.
The knife in question:
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/PF868GRS/petrified-fish-pf868-bunta-linerlock-flipper-knife-d2-satin-sheepsfoot-blade-sculpted-green-g10-handles
So what would y'all do in this situation?
I have accepted my fate. This is my favorite style to pair with a SAK.
The first two are old but I just got the Dart in... same frame and hardware as a Fox 599, which I really like. I'll have to knock the scales down with sandpaper tonight so it doesn't shred all my pockets.
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Chimpski, I'd probably leave it alone if it was me. Everybody's got the internet now and a price check would be the first step anyone worth helping would take.
I see WTS posts on other forums and just drive on. Gotta believe the Invisible Hand will sort it all out.
Quote from: Lodewijk on April 13, 2025, 05:41:46 PMI have accepted my fate. This is my favorite style to pair with a SAK.
The first two are old but I just got the Dart in... same frame and hardware as a Fox 599, which I really like. I'll have to knock the scales down with sandpaper tonight so it doesn't shred all my pockets.
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Chimpski, I'd probably leave it alone if it was me. Everybody's got the internet now and a price check would be the first step anyone worth helping would take.
I see WTS posts on other forums and just drive on. Gotta believe the Invisible Hand will sort it all out.
Good point.
I went back to Facebook to check the post and I guess the guy took it down. That or Facebook flagged it and yanked it themselves.
It's a nice knife, but nowhere near as pricey as the guy was making it out to be.
Lodewijk I carry a SAK primarily too. I tend to pair it with a folding utility a razor knife like the Gerber EAB. I want a fixed blade razor knife K , but can't find one I really like. Something like this ,but not this.
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Only razor knives I've ever used were those Sheffield ones from Walmart and those were folders.
I have zero knowledge on fixed razor knives.
I have seen a few custom ones on like Etsy that are non-folding "fixed" handles taking a utility blade like the EAB, but they aren't the most common thing I agree.
Interesting concept. I wonder how hard it would be to DIY something like that.
I was on my tablet and the link was to ETSY for one of those custom ones, it didn't work .I'm thinking once i get my workshop set up I might get a folding razor knife take the handle off and see if i can slab 3 pieces of steel together to make a fixed handle and screw, bolt,weld the folding blade holder onto it. Or same idea but use a scalpel handle and just use scalpel blades instead of razor blades.
Then a Kydex sheath for it.
Well, I've come to the conclusion that I suck at free hand sharpening and I'll be picking up a fixed angle sharpener at some point.
I'm thinking of picking up one of these since they're highly rated by a couple knife YouTubers I know.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/WSWSBCHPAJELT/work-sharp-precision-adjust-elite-knife-sharpener-with-seven-different-grits-carrying-case
There's also this one, but it's about 300-ish more than the previous one. This one's the top of the line version.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/WSWSBCHPAJPROELT/work-sharp-professional-precision-adjust-elite-knife-sharpener-with-ten-different-grits-digital-angle-indicator-carrying-case
Either way, I'm going to have to save up my money for awhile, so I've got time to do more research on them.
Chimp , I picked this off amazon for like 40 bucks. It does surprisingly well, except a few stones came unglued from there holder, out in the workshop in temps from 0 to 110. A glue gun fixed that.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TBNSNKS?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_3
That's interesting, Rednex.
Unfortunately it appears it's currently unavailable on Amazon.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 19, 2025, 02:46:11 PMWell, I've come to the conclusion that I suck at free hand sharpening and I'll be picking up a fixed angle sharpener at some point.
I'm thinking of picking up one of these since they're highly rated by a couple knife YouTubers I know.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/WSWSBCHPAJELT/work-sharp-precision-adjust-elite-knife-sharpener-with-seven-different-grits-carrying-case
There's also this one, but it's about 300-ish more than the previous one. This one's the top of the line version.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/WSWSBCHPAJPROELT/work-sharp-professional-precision-adjust-elite-knife-sharpener-with-ten-different-grits-digital-angle-indicator-carrying-case
Either way, I'm going to have to save up my money for awhile, so I've got time to do more research on them.
I completely forgot about Outdoors55 and I'm not sure why.
For anyone who forgot about these when they were Unobtainium but still want one, they have been easier to find lately. Not always in stock, but sometimes when I look they are on display. Sometimes even outside the case, depending on the store. I have picked up several and given some away because they are at the right price point for that.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on November 03, 2024, 12:12:18 AMI've been searching for those Wally World D2 knives and I can't find them local or online.
I'll have to check Walmart again cuz I kinda forgot about them the last month.
Quote from: airballrad on May 21, 2025, 01:04:55 PMFor anyone who forgot about these when they were Unobtainium but still want one, they have been easier to find lately. Not always in stock, but sometimes when I look they are on display. Sometimes even outside the case, depending on the store. I have picked up several and given some away because they are at the right price point for that.
Quote from: JeeperCreeper on November 03, 2024, 12:12:18 AMI've been searching for those Wally World D2 knives and I can't find them local or online.
I'll have to check Walmart again cuz I kinda forgot about them the last month.
My local Walmart still gets them in from time to time.
The first few batches were pretty good, but it appears the newer ones have major QC issues including poor heat treat and burnt edges.
Outdoors55 and Knives, I Guess on YouTube both had Ozark Trail D2 knives with serious issues.
Stopped at a yard sale today and picked up what I thought was just a random kitchen knife.
Turns out it's a Zwilling J.A. Henckels professional series chef's knife that retails for about 165 bucks. :eek1:
And I only paid 3 bucks for it. It did have some chips in the edge, but a couple passes with a file and then a quick sharpening took care of them for the most part. I figure if I go over the edge again, I should be able to fully remove the remainder of the chips with no problem.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 25, 2025, 05:06:46 PMStopped at a yard sale today and picked up what I thought was just a random kitchen knife.
Turns out it's a Zwilling J.A. Henckels professional series chef's knife that retails for about 165 bucks. :eek1:
And I only paid 3 bucks for it. It did have some chips in the edge, but a couple passes with a file and then a quick sharpening took care of them for the most part. I figure if I go over the edge again, I should be able to fully remove the remainder of the chips with no problem.
That's an awesome score by any measure, Chimp! I don't do yard sales anymore because of the high static to signal ratio, at least in my neck of the woods. But I do understand the thrill of the hunt. A few years back I picked up a Wustof Grand Prix 6" chefs knife at a local thrift shop for somewhere between $5-10. And much more recently, I found an 8" chefs knife that says Solingen Germany and has a crossed wisk and spoon logo. I can't nail down what brand it is, but it's extremely beefy with a full tang. It set me back $6. Now mind you, I already have 6" (Wustof) and 8" (Cuisinart) chef's knives, which I keep razor sharp with a set of Norton waterstones. But I have a soft spot for high quality kitchen knives, which are a joy to cook with. The Wustof Grand Prix is now part of my car camping kit and impresses the hell out of the family camping group I'm part of.
I don't exactly know what to do with the Solingen 8-incher, but I had a spare slot in my knife block so now I have 2 mega choppers in my kitchen. One more and I can start juggling! :clownshoes:
Quote from: majorhavoc on July 25, 2025, 08:24:59 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on July 25, 2025, 05:06:46 PMStopped at a yard sale today and picked up what I thought was just a random kitchen knife.
Turns out it's a Zwilling J.A. Henckels professional series chef's knife that retails for about 165 bucks. :eek1:
And I only paid 3 bucks for it. It did have some chips in the edge, but a couple passes with a file and then a quick sharpening took care of them for the most part. I figure if I go over the edge again, I should be able to fully remove the remainder of the chips with no problem.
That's an awesome score by any measure, Chimp! I don't do yard sales anymore because of the high static to signal ratio, at least in my neck of the woods. But I do understand the thrill of the hunt. A few years back I picked up a Wustof Grand Prix 6" chefs knife at a local thrift shop for somewhere between $5-10. And much more recently, I found an 8" chefs knife that says Solingen Germany and has a crossed wisk and spoon logo. I can't nail down what brand it is, but it's extremely beefy with a full tang. It set me back $6. Now mind you, I already have 6" (Wustof) and 8" (Cuisinart) chef's knives, which I keep razor sharp with a set of Norton waterstones. But I have a soft spot for high quality kitchen knives, which are a joy to cook with. The Wustof Grand Prix is now part of my car camping kit and impresses the hell out of the family camping group I'm part of.
I don't exactly know what to do with the Solingen 8-incher, but I had a spare slot in my knife block so now I have 2 mega choppers in my kitchen. One more and I can start juggling! :clownshoes:
I recognized the Henckels logo and knew they made some pretty pricey stuff, so it an easy buy for me. I also figured it was at most a 60 dollar knife. Turns out I was off by like 105 dollars. :smiley_crocodile:
Apparently Henckels has two lines of knives. There's the premium Zwilling J.A. Henckels line (which is what I bought) and the more affordable Henckels line.
So Ozark Trail recently brought out two new knives.
We all know about their foray into the realm of D2 steel with their axis lock knife, but now they've released a button lock and another axis lock knife.
The axis/crossbar lock knife is called the Valor and has 14C28N steel for the blade while the button lock is called the Elevation and it has 12C27 blade steel. I believe both of them are priced at 20 bucks each, but I'd have to double check.
ETA: I have acquired one of the 14C28N Ozark Trail knives and they're priced at 19.97 (after tax would be about 22 bucks) and the button lock is priced at $24.97 (so probably 26 bucks after tax ?).
My local Walmart is also starting to sell some more Civivi knives. I saw a Civivi Yonder axis lock as well as a Baby Banter liner lock. Both were priced at 59 bucks.
As soon as I can, I might pick up a couple of them along with the Ozark Trail button lock.
I'm actually kind of interested in these two knives. I picked up a couple of the orange handled D2 knives when they first dropped and those weren't too bad. So I'm hoping Ozark Trail learned their lesson from the orange D2 knives and figured out how to properly heat treat the 14C28N and 12C27 steels.
Well, I may have messed up a perfectly good knife by being a moron. :gonk:
So I've got a Buck Inertia assisted opener and today I decided to see if I could fix a couple issues I'd had with it.
First issue was the super stiff pocket clip. Next one was the assisted opening part being a little on the weak side.
Well, the clip isn't a problem anymore because the screw threads stripped and the weak opening is a known issue. Buck had apparently fixed that with later versions, but mine is an early one made pre-fix.
And to top it all off, Buck discontinued the Inertia back around 2021 so buying a replacement one isn't an option now.
I should've just left the damn knife alone . :gonk:
ETA: I may have found a way to fix the weak opening thing. :smiley_clap:
If I can get one of the body screws out and retighten it, I may be able to fix the opening problem.
One of the body screw standoffs is loose and it's not putting enough pressure on the spring for the assisted opener. If I can fix the screw and put enough pressure on it, I may be able to fix it.
The pocket clip is a non-issue right now because I managed to get it off and it'll be staying off, but I just want to fix the weak opening and hopefully my idea will work.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on August 23, 2025, 03:20:51 PMWell, I may have messed up a perfectly good knife by being a moron. :gonk:
So I've got a Buck Inertia assisted opener and today I decided to see if I could fix a couple issues I'd had with it.
First issue was the super stiff pocket clip. Next one was the assisted opening part being a little on the weak side.
Well, the clip isn't a problem anymore because the screw threads stripped and the weak opening is a known issue. Buck had apparently fixed that with later versions, but mine is an early one made pre-fix.
And to top it all off, Buck discontinued the Inertia back around 2021 so buying a replacement one isn't an option now.
I should've just left the damn knife alone . :gonk:
ETA: I may have found a way to fix the weak opening thing. :smiley_clap:
If I can get one of the body screws out and retighten it, I may be able to fix the opening problem.
One of the body screw standoffs is loose and it's not putting enough pressure on the spring for the assisted opener. If I can fix the screw and put enough pressure on it, I may be able to fix it.
The pocket clip is a non-issue right now because I managed to get it off and it'll be staying off, but I just want to fix the weak opening and hopefully my idea will work.
Buck does have a "forever" warranty. I also know that they keep a certain amount of production for parts inventory. If this were a known issue, they would have kept even more inventory after the fix.
Quote from: NT2C on August 23, 2025, 04:46:22 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on August 23, 2025, 03:20:51 PMWell, I may have messed up a perfectly good knife by being a moron. :gonk:
So I've got a Buck Inertia assisted opener and today I decided to see if I could fix a couple issues I'd had with it.
First issue was the super stiff pocket clip. Next one was the assisted opening part being a little on the weak side.
Well, the clip isn't a problem anymore because the screw threads stripped and the weak opening is a known issue. Buck had apparently fixed that with later versions, but mine is an early one made pre-fix.
And to top it all off, Buck discontinued the Inertia back around 2021 so buying a replacement one isn't an option now.
I should've just left the damn knife alone . :gonk:
ETA: I may have found a way to fix the weak opening thing. :smiley_clap:
If I can get one of the body screws out and retighten it, I may be able to fix the opening problem.
One of the body screw standoffs is loose and it's not putting enough pressure on the spring for the assisted opener. If I can fix the screw and put enough pressure on it, I may be able to fix it.
The pocket clip is a non-issue right now because I managed to get it off and it'll be staying off, but I just want to fix the weak opening and hopefully my idea will work.
Buck does have a "forever" warranty. I also know that they keep a certain amount of production for parts inventory. If this were a known issue, they would have kept even more inventory after the fix.
Problem is I've monkeyed with the knife a bit already and I'm pretty sure they'd take one look at it and go "Yep, not our problem now."
Well, I sent off an inquiry to Buck's warranty department and now I'm just waiting on a response.
So I heard back from Buck and their processing time for warranty work is 8 to 10 weeks. So about 2 and half-ish months.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on August 25, 2025, 12:23:34 PMSo I heard back from Buck and their processing time for warranty work is 8 to 10 weeks. So about 2 and half-ish months.
I did a warranty repair once with Kershaw and just bought another kershaw to use while it was being worked on. I know you have a bunch of EDC folders but I didn't at that time. IIRC it was more than a month wait but I didn't even notice since I had the back up folder.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on August 26, 2025, 10:13:37 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on August 25, 2025, 12:23:34 PMSo I heard back from Buck and their processing time for warranty work is 8 to 10 weeks. So about 2 and half-ish months.
I did a warranty repair once with Kershaw and just bought another kershaw to use while it was being worked on. I know you have a bunch of EDC folders but I didn't at that time. IIRC it was more than a month wait but I didn't even notice since I had the back up folder.
Yeah, I've got other knives I carry instead of the Buck. I'll probably just end up buying another Buck folder (I'm thinking a Buck Spitfire) and just putting the Inertia in a drawer.
A friend gifted me a new blade tonight... Gerber Doubledown (https://www.gerbergear.com/en-us/shop/knives/all-knives/doubledown-black-30-001536n) :eek1:
Quote from: NT2C on September 11, 2025, 07:42:31 PMA friend gifted me a new blade tonight... Gerber Doubledown (https://www.gerbergear.com/en-us/shop/knives/all-knives/doubledown-black-30-001536n) :eek1:
Neat.
Gerber can make some decent stuff when they put their minds to it.
I've got a Gerber Prodigy fixed blade that's pretty good.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on August 23, 2025, 03:20:51 PMWell, I may have messed up a perfectly good knife by being a moron. :gonk:
So I've got a Buck Inertia assisted opener and today I decided to see if I could fix a couple issues I'd had with it.
First issue was the super stiff pocket clip. Next one was the assisted opening part being a little on the weak side.
Well, the clip isn't a problem anymore because the screw threads stripped and the weak opening is a known issue. Buck had apparently fixed that with later versions, but mine is an early one made pre-fix.
And to top it all off, Buck discontinued the Inertia back around 2021 so buying a replacement one isn't an option now.
I should've just left the damn knife alone . :gonk:
ETA: I may have found a way to fix the weak opening thing. :smiley_clap:
If I can get one of the body screws out and retighten it, I may be able to fix the opening problem.
One of the body screw standoffs is loose and it's not putting enough pressure on the spring for the assisted opener. If I can fix the screw and put enough pressure on it, I may be able to fix it.
The pocket clip is a non-issue right now because I managed to get it off and it'll be staying off, but I just want to fix the weak opening and hopefully my idea will work.
At that ~3inch blade length should just get a fixed blade. Not much to go wrong/break. And fits inside an everyday trouser pocket (in sheath) without protruding. A little longer sticks out.
Quote from: Red Tamarillo on September 14, 2025, 07:33:07 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on August 23, 2025, 03:20:51 PMWell, I may have messed up a perfectly good knife by being a moron. :gonk:
So I've got a Buck Inertia assisted opener and today I decided to see if I could fix a couple issues I'd had with it.
First issue was the super stiff pocket clip. Next one was the assisted opening part being a little on the weak side.
Well, the clip isn't a problem anymore because the screw threads stripped and the weak opening is a known issue. Buck had apparently fixed that with later versions, but mine is an early one made pre-fix.
And to top it all off, Buck discontinued the Inertia back around 2021 so buying a replacement one isn't an option now.
I should've just left the damn knife alone . :gonk:
ETA: I may have found a way to fix the weak opening thing. :smiley_clap:
If I can get one of the body screws out and retighten it, I may be able to fix the opening problem.
One of the body screw standoffs is loose and it's not putting enough pressure on the spring for the assisted opener. If I can fix the screw and put enough pressure on it, I may be able to fix it.
The pocket clip is a non-issue right now because I managed to get it off and it'll be staying off, but I just want to fix the weak opening and hopefully my idea will work.
At that ~3inch blade length should just get a fixed blade. Not much to go wrong/break. And fits inside an everyday trouser pocket (in sheath) without protruding. A little longer sticks out.
I actually own a couple small fixed blades, but I don't carry them.
Just like it's fun to flick open a folder, it's probably ?80% as much fun to draw a small fixed blade from a sheath.
Quote from: Red Tamarillo on September 16, 2025, 07:19:33 AMJust like it's fun to flick open a folder, it's probably ?80% as much fun to draw a small fixed blade from a sheath.
That is true. There's also a lot more fixed blade options these days than there was when I was first starting to collect knives.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on September 16, 2025, 09:54:19 AMQuote from: Red Tamarillo on September 16, 2025, 07:19:33 AMJust like it's fun to flick open a folder, it's probably ?80% as much fun to draw a small fixed blade from a sheath.
That is true. There's also a lot more fixed blade options these days than there was when I was first starting to collect knives.
There was always the Schrade Sharpfinger:
https://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/corners/michael/152OT%20Sharpfinger%20and%20152UH%20Uncle%20Henry%20Wolverine%20Research.pdf
I haven't linked content here on this new site (so don't know if it's going to stick). (I was on the old site for many years, but can't remember how to link stuff- it was too many years ago).
Production is now in China. I did buy one of the Chinese made to give to a friend's son. But also buying an aftermarket Kydex sheath with clip. You can still get US made second hand models.
Having an aftermarket kydex sheath (in what colour you fancy) with a tek lok clip or equivalent also increases the percentage of fun factor. You've holstered your tool. In whatever draw configuration you feel like. Again you're cool because you're doing a 'draw configuration'.
Those lame-o folding people usually only have two options- in the pocket or clipped to the pocket. (Note I have some folders).
The cool kydex fixed blader (a modern day Bowie knifer- (with a 3.5inch blade)) can stick their tool multiple positions. Including horizontal draw- everyone knows that's cool. Behind the back. In front on the left side horizontal (if right handed). On left hip- vertical or angled. On right hip vertical for icepick draw. (Or some people clip them inside their pants- not cool but more self defense carry). Granted some of these options are too visible, and dependent on your laws. For instance my legals are such I can only do APC rather than EDC for a small fixed blade. APC = Around my Property Carry.
My most of the time my APC is an original US made sharpfinger with kydex sheath, but in the pocket with no clip.
It's actually fun to put the big tek lok clip on a small kydex sheath. Makes it look more 'respect my authoritay'. I've got one on a kydex sheathed Cold Steel 3.5inch bladed Pendleton Hunter. It's a good knife as well.
Other fixed blade EDC or APC options are Hultafors/Moras etc... Sometimes you need to put a bit of dark (if you wear dark pants) hockey grip tape on the end of the handle to cover up bright coloured handles. As small fixed blades can be borderline with showing in pocket carry (IPC). Depends on their overall length. Also can get serrated in these work knives. Not as good serrations as Spyderco, but fine. You can cut the clip off the plastic sheath to make them more streamlined in pocket.
Spyderco also make some options. The Street Beat and Enuff 2 for instance, plus some others. Just the right length for in pocket carry (IPC). I like serrated Spydercos. Some of their fixed blade options you can get serrated.
The Benchmade Steep Country is also in this blade length range. And cuts rope like a lightsabre.
Trouser/shorts selection is also important as some have deeper pockets than others.
Quote from: Red Tamarillo on September 17, 2025, 08:44:42 AMThere was always the Schrade Sharpfinger:
https://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/corners/michael/152OT%20Sharpfinger%20and%20152UH%20Uncle%20Henry%20Wolverine%20Research.pdf (https://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/corners/michael/152OT%20Sharpfinger%20and%20152UH%20Uncle%20Henry%20Wolverine%20Research.pdf)
Was this guy Codger at that link getting his doctorate in knife history or something?!? :smiley_shrug: I've only seen that kind of file offered on research papers etc. not articles. They usually make up the body of a webpage.
Althought the site seems a little oldschool itself, https://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/ [free website builder? we don't need no stinking CSS] so maybe more of an archive, but still.
Sorry, is there something wrong with the link?
There's this collector mentality, where they get obsessed on history and little details and variants. It's not uncommon.
I linked another site first but this guy seemed to have more detail.
Sometimes you end up bidding against a collector on ebay, and soon realise when you've been slammed that some specific detail about the item/maker has made them smash you, as they 'need' to get it for their collection (an addiction).
I've actually considered getting a Schrade Sharpfinger a few times. Only Schrade fixed blade I own currently is a Golden Spike I picked at a "going out of business" sale a local store was having.
I think I paid something like 20 bucks for it at the time.
Also, I just spent the last 20 minutes looking for a small silver washer from my CJRB Pyrite button lock.
I'd taken the knife apart to clean it, wiped down the blade and then went to reassemble it. That's when I noticed the washer on one side and immediately thought "Oh crap, I lost the other one somehow."
I looked everywhere for the damn thing, but it turns out CJRB only puts a single washer on the clip side of the knife for some reason.
So I wasted 20 minutes looking for a non-existent washer my monkey brain made me think I'd lost it. :headbang:
The golden spike looks good. 5 inch blade with a guard. Realistically fits that role of 5 to 7 inch fixed blade well
The sharpfinger though through smaller length of blade can be an EDC (depending on local laws). When fixed blades are a certain (smaller) length they can be EDC in the pocket. EDC small fixed blade in pocket is easier to conceal than small fixed blade riding on your belt.
The fun thing about the sharpfinger is that through it's design it has multiple 'fidget' ways of handling it. You can do hammer grip, you can do sabre grip, you can do icepick obviously. You can rotate and do a grip on each slab left or right, you can place your index finger near the end of the blade inside an animal (knowing where the end of your blade is because it's not long), you can put your thumb on the end of the blade to peel an apple (that is your fingers doing multiple movements between these two). You can also put your index finger on the first unsharpened part of the blade to help with delicate work i.e. it has lots of flipping between the fingers. The designer did a good job, even against decades later.
Local Walmart didn't have any Sharpfingers when I stopped by this morning, but I did manage to score a couple SOG Power Pint multitools that were on clearance.
Normally they're like 40 bucks or so and today they were around 20. Friend of mine that works the Sporting Goods counter sometimes told me she grabbed three of them (two for Christmas gifts and one for herself).
Stopped at a local thrift store on Saturday and saw they had a few small knives in a display case.
Most of them were the usual cheapos, but one ended up being a nice Case slipjoint. I figured the price would be high like most things there, but it wasn't.
The Case knife was only 2 bucks, so needless to say that sucker came home with me. :smiley_clap:
I may have to keep checking that store and see if I can score more Case knives or other name brand knives for cheap.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 20, 2025, 03:14:09 PMStopped at a local thrift store on Saturday ...
The Case knife was only 2 bucks, so needless to say that sucker came home with me. :smiley_clap:
I may have to keep checking that store and see if I can score more Case knives or other name brand knives for cheap.
Ah, that's what we call the thrill of the hunt! :awesome:
Quote from: majorhavoc on October 20, 2025, 05:32:47 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on October 20, 2025, 03:14:09 PMStopped at a local thrift store on Saturday ...
The Case knife was only 2 bucks, so needless to say that sucker came home with me. :smiley_clap:
I may have to keep checking that store and see if I can score more Case knives or other name brand knives for cheap.
Ah, that's what we call the thrill of the hunt! :awesome:
Yep. I'm hoping I'll find more there at some point.
The store is always getting stuff and I'm sure there'll be more knives amongst the other items. :smiley_clap:
I need a replacement for the Kershaw Leek I've been EDCing for a couple years. This is the knife I use at work and for general utility stuff, so it gets a fair amount of use. The flipper and lock are unreliable (since the beginning), and I'm just tired of dealing with the headaches.
OTOH, I really appreciate the blade design. Though a little light, once I got it re-ground so the edge was straight (instead of recurved and unevenly ground), it is the best iteration of Lord Wharncliffe's design I've seen on a modern knife.
Can anyone recommend a flipper (or similar) with a Wharncliffe blade that isn't a Kershaw? One with a blade made from a decent steel would be nice.
Quote from: Habu on February 22, 2026, 06:00:16 PMI need a replacement for the Kershaw Leek I've been EDCing for a couple years. This is the knife I use at work and for general utility stuff, so it gets a fair amount of use. The flipper and lock are unreliable (since the beginning), and I'm just tired of dealing with the headaches.
OTOH, I really appreciate the blade design. Though a little light, once I got it re-ground so the edge was straight (instead of recurved and unevenly ground), it is the best iteration of Lord Wharncliffe's design I've seen on a modern knife.
Can anyone recommend a flipper (or similar) with a Wharncliffe blade that isn't a Kershaw? One with a blade made from a decent steel would be nice.
How much you looking to spend ?
Civivi makes a variant of their Elementum folder with a wharnecliffe blade and in Nitro-V steel for like 55 bucks.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CIVC18062AF1/civivi-knives-elementum-liner-lock-flipper-knife-nitro-v-satin-wharncliffe-blade-black-g10-handles
Civivi makes nice knives i have a few, the one though uses a double detent to keep the blade open. It closed on my finger when sharpening it, the baby Banter is nice but like 50 bucks. The Buck 112 lite is nice too have that on me as i type, it was $31 usd on amazon.
Only Civivi I can think of off the top of my head that uses a double detent is the Appalachian Drifter.
They made a liner lock version of that one for awhile, but Civivi discontinued it a couple years ago.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 22, 2026, 07:30:21 PMHow much you looking to spend ?
Civivi makes a variant of their Elementum folder with a wharnecliffe blade and in Nitro-V steel for like 55 bucks.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CIVC18062AF1/civivi-knives-elementum-liner-lock-flipper-knife-nitro-v-satin-wharncliffe-blade-black-g10-handles
Thanks for the pointer to Civivi, I've never heard of the company so will do some looking around.
For a knife that checks off all my boxes, I could go maybe $300--I've been disgusted with the Leek since I got it, so have been tucking away a few bucks every payday for a replacement. If I can't find something that is a significant improvement, I'll probably just grab a TSA-confiscated Leek off ebay. Given the mess they sold me and the total lack of response from attempts to contact the company, I can't see giving Kershaw any more of my $$.
Quote from: Habu on February 23, 2026, 12:27:53 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on February 22, 2026, 07:30:21 PMHow much you looking to spend ?
Civivi makes a variant of their Elementum folder with a wharnecliffe blade and in Nitro-V steel for like 55 bucks.
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CIVC18062AF1/civivi-knives-elementum-liner-lock-flipper-knife-nitro-v-satin-wharncliffe-blade-black-g10-handles
Thanks for the pointer to Civivi, I've never heard of the company so will do some looking around.
For a knife that checks off all my boxes, I could go maybe $300--I've been disgusted with the Leek since I got it, so have been tucking away a few bucks every payday for a replacement. If I can't find something that is a significant improvement, I'll probably just grab a TSA-confiscated Leek off ebay. Given the mess they sold me and the total lack of response from attempts to contact the company, I can't see giving Kershaw any more of my $$.
Kershaw hasn't been on my radar much in the last decade. A lot of their budget stuff is total crap with a few gems scattered amongst the various models.
Civivi is pretty good quality. They're a offshoot of a company called WE Knives, who also own Sencut which is the budget line.
I've only ever owned stuff from the Civivi brand since I'm too broke for the premium stuff from WE Knives. Haven't tried Sencut either, but I've heard good stuff about them.
You might also take a look at CJRB and Artisan.
Quote from: Habu on February 22, 2026, 06:00:16 PMI need a replacement for the Kershaw Leek I've been EDCing for a couple years. This is the knife I use at work and for general utility stuff, so it gets a fair amount of use. The flipper and lock are unreliable (since the beginning), and I'm just tired of dealing with the headaches.
OTOH, I really appreciate the blade design. Though a little light, once I got it re-ground so the edge was straight (instead of recurved and unevenly ground), it is the best iteration of Lord Wharncliffe's design I've seen on a modern knife.
Can anyone recommend a flipper (or similar) with a Wharncliffe blade that isn't a Kershaw? One with a blade made from a decent steel would be nice.
Kershaw has a pretty good warranty and Customer service. Is it a headache, not IMO, but headaches are relative. I had an issue with the rubber grip coming off my Blur so I sent it in for repair. had to print out and fill out the form. https://kershaw.kaiusa.com/warranty and the tip of the blade was broken off and they replaced that for free. At that time it was a $10 fee for that. Now it is a $25 fee for non-warranty blade replacement.
Overall, I was happy with that service on a $60 knife. The leek is $100 knife. maybe worth a try. It did take a few weeks turnaround.
IIRC I had to send the same knife in again, and the blade they replaced the first time didn't have any markings and I was a little worried about them thinking it was counterfeit, but it got repaired and returned. Same issue. those rubber grip inserts come loose.
That Tanto Blur Assisted open was my Daily EDC for 10-15 year. I've carried that model since about 2006 but lost the first knife, and got an exact replacement around 2011] Point being, it got a lot of use and was in my pocket if I was wearing pants. :awesome:
I have upgraded to Zero Tolerance 0450CF made by KAI USA also with the same warranty.
So I have a total of 4 KAI USA folders including.
Misdirect Tanto Blackwash
Cryo II Tanto Blackwash Serrated
Blur Tanto Black Serrated
Sencut is the economy brand for Civivi. I have a lot of Kershaw knives and like all the ones i have, that said I aint bought a Kershaw in over 10 years or so. Victorinox and Wenger swiss army knifes off ebay since i rebuild them, 3 Civivi's a Buck and umm thats it. Looking for a low cost ok quality auto knife , thinking Boker might have something i kinda like.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on February 23, 2026, 10:54:50 AMKershaw has a pretty good warranty and Customer service. Is it a headache, not IMO, but headaches are relative. I had an issue with the rubber grip coming off my Blur so I sent it in for repair. had to print out and fill out the form. https://kershaw.kaiusa.com/warranty and the tip of the blade was broken off and they replaced that for free. At that time it was a $10 fee for that. Now it is a $25 fee for non-warranty blade replacement.
Overall, I was happy with that service on a $60 knife. The leek is $100 knife. maybe worth a try. It did take a few weeks turnaround.
Don't get me wrong--I'm glad you've had good results with Kershaw's warranty/CS department, and their products have served you well. My experience was very much different.
As received, the knife I got was unusable. I contacted Kershaw via the link on their webpage and asked how they wanted to handle it. After a week I tried again. After another week with no response, I bought a set of small Torx bits and tore the knife down.
I straightened the blade, adjusted the liner lock, and re-ground the blade. After slicing my hand when reaching into my pocket, only to discover it had self-opened, I flipped the clip so carry was point-up and the pocket would prevent it from opening. (Seems they forgot to install the "clip-lock".) Soon after, the "assisted opening" stopped working, so I've been pressing the tab on back and flicking my wrist to open it. More recently the liner lock has stopped working (again), and I just don't want to mess with it any more.
Yeah, I'd say it's time to pick up a new knife after all that.
Seems like it'd be nothing but a massive headache to try and fix it yourself.
Is this the best place to gripe about a multitool?
I saw the Leatherman Micra on their site and it looked a lot like my Squirt (which they have, stupidly in my opinion, discontinued), but with a scissor instead of the pliers. They've had the Micra for a long time and I forgot why I never bought one.
Now, it is on me that I did not closely examine this thing before I bought it, but I'm kind of regretting that I spent the money on it.
See, with the Squirt, all of the smaller tools like the knife and the screw drivers and all that are accessible from the sides while it's closed. I don't have to open the Squirt to access anything other than the plier and the body of the tool acts as a nice handle for every tool. This, to me, is the ideal.
With the Micra, I have to open the primary tool to access any of the smaller tools, which I find awkward, then close it again to use it as I would the Squirt, plus there's no good way to T-turn the screw driver, which I have found useful on occasion with the Squirt. Why the extra step? The Squirt proved it didn't need to be this way.
I'm kind of miffed that they kept this instead of the Squirt.
Leatherman has made some boneheaded decisions in the last 15 or so years regarding the design and discontinuation of tools.
Example, the Blast and Rebar. I own both and I like the Blast a lot more than the Rebar. The Rebar is an ok tool in it's own right, but it shouldn't have replaced the Blast. Leatherman should've made the Rebar it's own line and kept the Blast and the smaller Kick in the lineup.
As for tools that are similar to the Squirt, check out Roxon and NexTool, Anianna. They've got tools that are pretty similar. Maybe not exactly like the Squirt, but close.
Thanks for the recommendations. I think I have a NexTool saved in my Amazon cart to try next. Will take a look at Roxon.
Quote from: Anianna on March 31, 2026, 12:07:46 AMIs this the best place to gripe about a multitool?
I saw the Leatherman Micra on their site and it looked a lot like my Squirt (which they have, stupidly in my opinion, discontinued), but with a scissor instead of the pliers. They've had the Micra for a long time and I forgot why I never bought one.
Now, it is on me that I did not closely examine this thing before I bought it, but I'm kind of regretting that I spent the money on it.
See, with the Squirt, all of the smaller tools like the knife and the screw drivers and all that are accessible from the sides while it's closed. I don't have to open the Squirt to access anything other than the plier and the body of the tool acts as a nice handle for every tool. This, to me, is the ideal.
With the Micra, I have to open the primary tool to access any of the smaller tools, which I find awkward, then close it again to use it as I would the Squirt, plus there's no good way to T-turn the screw driver, which I have found useful on occasion with the Squirt. Why the extra step? The Squirt proved it didn't need to be this way.
I'm kind of miffed that they kept this instead of the Squirt.
FWIW,
everybody thinks it was stupid of Leatherman to discontinue the Squirt.
@Anianna Yeah, I hear that about the 'fine print'.
I have a Leatherman Supertool 300 and you can't access any of the tools without opening the thing up. There were a couple of times I thought, 'how come they didn't put at least one knife on the outside?'. Then I was gifted a Wingman and you can access the knife and the scissors without opening the tool up to get to them.
I found out I rarely use either of those compared to the screwdrivers, pliers, wire cutters, and box opener so I'm always opening up the multi tool anyhow.
Quote from: Anianna on March 31, 2026, 01:36:00 AMThanks for the recommendations. I think I have a NexTool saved in my Amazon cart to try next. Will take a look at Roxon.
Knife Center and MidwayUSA also have a decent selection of NexTool stuff if Amazon doesn't have anything you like.
I've ordered from both places and shipping was pretty good.
Sog Powerpint may be worth looking at as well.
The SOG Powerpint is another good option.
I grabbed two of them on clearance at my local Walmart awhile back for 20 bucks each.
Picked up a Benchmade Mini Griptilian for 2 bucks the other day at a local yard sale and just placed a warranty order for a new pocket clip for it today.
Cost me a grand total of $3.25 in shipping and tax for the free pocket clip/screws combo.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 07, 2026, 01:35:47 PMPicked up a Benchmade Mini Griptilian for 2 bucks the other day at a local yard sale and just placed a warranty order for a new pocket clip for it today.
Cost me a grand total of $3.25 in shipping and tax for the free pocket clip/screws combo.
So a grand total of $5.25 for a Benchmade Mini Griptillian? I'd say you made out like a bandit. You should post a pic in the Brag About Your Thrift Shop Finds thread when you get the pocket clip installed.
Quote from: majorhavoc on May 07, 2026, 01:51:59 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 07, 2026, 01:35:47 PMPicked up a Benchmade Mini Griptilian for 2 bucks the other day at a local yard sale and just placed a warranty order for a new pocket clip for it today.
Cost me a grand total of $3.25 in shipping and tax for the free pocket clip/screws combo.
So a grand total of $5.25 for a Benchmade Mini Griptillian? I'd say you made out like a bandit. You should post a pic in the Brag About Your Thrift Shop Finds thread when you get the pocket clip installed.
Now that I've got a new phone, I'll be posting a pic soon. Had my old phone's camera not gotten broken, I'd have done it sooner.
Figured I'd show a pic of my Benchmade before I get the replacement pocket clip .
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Apparently it's a discontinued model with the yellow scales.
Have a friend's birthday coming next month and I think I found an awesome gift. A custom knife 1 of 100, MSRP $895.00 for 55% off $399.99
Quote from: NT2C on May 20, 2026, 07:28:04 AMHave a friend's birthday coming next month and I think I found an awesome gift. A custom knife 1 of 100, MSRP $895.00 for 55% off $399.99
You should probably throw in a nice wall safe or lock box for them to keep it in. :greenguy:
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fp6cDgmbNlVk%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=ebc16b40212c387ea7473065a328c677515c62040d8b51504d6ba26b40077f86)
And some Jewelers gloves.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.jjGpm1V8Yya2fhVbeHYAaQHaE2%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=ca7239353490d0992058a6f7e8062bef7c033587b753f2b608705b2ba3e0b9ae&ipo=images)
Quote from: NT2C on May 20, 2026, 07:28:04 AMHave a friend's birthday coming next month and I think I found an awesome gift. A custom knife 1 of 100, MSRP $895.00 for 55% off $399.99
Oh NT2C you shouldn't have! But just an FYI my birthday isn't until August. :icon_crazy:
Quote from: majorhavoc on May 20, 2026, 11:12:15 AMQuote from: NT2C on May 20, 2026, 07:28:04 AMHave a friend's birthday coming next month and I think I found an awesome gift. A custom knife 1 of 100, MSRP $895.00 for 55% off $399.99
Oh NT2C you shouldn't have! But just an FYI my birthday isn't until August. :icon_crazy:
Do I need to order more peanuts again already? Gee, how time flies!
Opted out of the $895 knife (https://www.knifecenter.com/item/DSKTMINIVXPVD/dsk-tactical-custom-compact-vx-folding-knife-cpm-154-black-pvd-clip-point-blade-and-milled-titanium-handles) because of crappy engraving of the serial number.
(https://pics.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/dsk-tactical/images/DSKTMINIVXPVDnn_2.jpg)
Bought one of these (https://www.knifecenter.com/item/MT1212FRGTODS/microtech-121-2frgtods-signature-series-ultratech-tactical-auto-otf-knife-black-drop-point-combo-blade-black-aluminum-handles-with-od-green-frag-g10-top) instead.
(https://pics.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/microtech-knives/images/MT1212FRGTODS_1.jpg)
Went to Walmart yesterday for groceries and left with a Swiss-Tech Lodern firestarter set in addition to the groceries.
I'd actually been looking for one of these for awhile now, so when I saw my local Walmart had it finally, I snapped it up.
It comes with several firestarting tools, a small fixed blade knife called the "Exakt" and a nice waxed canvas pouch to carry it all it.
I may use the pouch for something else, but I haven't given much thought to what I'd use it for just yet.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on June 03, 2026, 12:11:50 PMWent to Walmart yesterday for groceries and left with a Swiss-Tech Lodern firestarter set in addition to the groceries.
I'd actually been looking for one of these for awhile now, so when I saw my local Walmart had it finally, I snapped it up.
It comes with several firestarting tools, a small fixed blade knife called the "Exakt" and a nice waxed canvas pouch to carry it all it.
I may use the pouch for something else, but I haven't given much thought to what I'd use it for just yet.
Your description made me curious enough to chase down a picture. Looks like a really cool kit! Does the Exakt knife fit in the case? From this pic at least, it looks like it doesn't.
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It doesn't fit in the case, Majorhavoc.
It's about 2 inches or so too long. It does fit on the outside, though. There's a little bit of canvas on the front that the sheath can grab onto and hold the knife in place.
Seems pretty compact too.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi5.walmartimages.com%2Fseo%2FSwiss-Tech-Fixed-Blade-Kit-6-Piece-Campfire-Camping-Essentials-Set_b813af93-5f1f-4592-8a60-aea4ee2901ed.29ab986c52230b225be10fb463b51a44.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=96c05d47e0335761e037c5ae42e273bd9de40ef27a4b4562b603834580168dd4)(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.squarespace-cdn.com%2Fcontent%2Fv1%2F646e3fdc05c15f4632c38c3e%2F2ee06c78-c22e-439b-97bc-ab720959c14c%2FLodern%2BKit%2B-%2BPDP-23.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=75234f13e8d6ff57e0b4fc5ead5048a2d3f60c060cbfedbef5e8f9a61d9da88d)
Is that a telescoping radio antenna they call a pocket bellows? I know for a fact that rapidly extending and contracting those types of antennae make them to hot to hold onto.