War in Ukraine

Started by Moab, February 04, 2022, 09:48:32 PM

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wee drop o bush

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mzmc

Quote from: NT2C on February 27, 2022, 08:43:44 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/t2wq63/georgian_ship_refused_to_give_fuel_to_a_russian/?ref=share&ref_source=link

I'm honestly not sure if I'm too hot about Civilian vessels denying each other services over politics. Not unless their flag states are actively at war.

I hope that was in coastal waters, not on the high seas. Or the next thing you know, someone is declaring an emergeny that could have been prevented.

I mean, forget international law, there are hundreds of years of marine tradition and conventions, that all exist for a reason.


On the other hand, totally, fuck them. So there's that.
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mzmc

Quote from: wee drop o bush on February 28, 2022, 10:24:39 AM
Switzerland has announced that it has adopted EU sanctions against Russia.
Quotehttps://www.reuters.com/world/europe/neutral-swiss-adopt-sanctions-against-russia-2022-02-28/

That's... new.

Not entirely surprising, if you ever read any of the declassified "in case of Soviet invasion of Europe" plans Switzerland had during the Cold War. Which all started with "freeze their assets and deny them banking services".  :greenguy:
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Quote from: mzmc on February 28, 2022, 10:27:26 AM
I'm honestly not sure if I'm too hot about Civilian vessels denying each other services over politics. Not unless their flag states are actively at war.

I hope that was in coastal waters, not on the high seas. Or the next thing you know, someone is declaring an emergeny that could have been prevented.

I mean, forget international law, there are hundreds of years of marine tradition and conventions, that all exist for a reason.


On the other hand, totally, fuck them. So there's that.

I agree on all points.

That said I am firm believer in "no shirt/no shoes/no service".
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Quote from: Crosscut on February 28, 2022, 03:21:20 PM
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The truth and facts are absolutes. A fact or the truth does not change if embraced or denied.

The news on the other hand is fluid and should always be questioned and viewed with a healthy skepticism.
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Quote from: NT2C on February 27, 2022, 08:43:44 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/t2wq63/georgian_ship_refused_to_give_fuel_to_a_russian/?ref=share&ref_source=link
I'm honestly not sure if I'm too hot about Civilian vessels denying each other services over politics. Not unless their flag states are actively at war.
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On the other hand, totally, fuck them. So there's that.
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Anianna

Among the reports of Russians running out of gas is a pair in Kharkiv going to the police station there to request fuel. 

While that sounds like a ridiculous thing to do, it supports the reports that Russian propaganda insists they are liberating Ukranians from a corrupt, oppressive government.  These soldiers apparently believe they are a liberation force supported by the Ukranian people, which explains all of the casual contact (like asking for directions) we've been seeing between Ukranian civilians and Russian soldiers.
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Quote from: flybynight on February 28, 2022, 07:36:11 PM
Are we dealing with an unbalanced madman ?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-putin-keeps-his-distance-during-meetings-194633383.html

Yea, I'm pretty sure we are and not just because he likes ridiculously long tables. 

In 2020, it came out that he was sick and going to retire in 2021, but that was later dismissed and he didn't retire.  Not sure what all that was about, but something was going on.  At the time, Parkinson's was specifically mentioned, which is not a terminal illness. 

Later, he announced himself that he was restructuring the government to prepare for his departure.  At some point he announced that he would be stepping down in 2024.  More recently, his sister stated that he is afraid of Covid and there is some speculation that he is immune compromised and may have cancer, which is largely based on that odd occurrence in 2020 and the fact that he has recently taken to only meeting with people at a significant distance.

One of Putin's critics in 2020 claimed very specifically that Putin had emergency surgery for stomach cancer.  I have no idea if that is true or where he would have obtained that information if it were true.  None of the major news outlets would touch that story at all and it only appears in some of Europe's tabloids. 

Him having a terminal illness, if he indeed has one, makes him more dangerous because he literally has nothing personally to lose.  I honestly think he just wants to go out with a fight and this was the safest fight to pick.  He doesn't care if Russia's economy crashes because he's not going to be around to feel the impact.  He feels weak and wants to die feeling strong and important. 

Additionally, I'm not even convinced he wants to win this thing.  Russia is supposed to have one of the world's foremost militaries, but the equipment the Ukranians are encountering are old and barely functional, plus the Russians running out of gas on the side of the road and so many of the soldiers are young and inexperienced.  Is the Russian military really in such a poor state or is Putin just messing around?
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That maybe. Or he's a paranoid schizophrenic
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Quote from: flybynight on February 26, 2022, 01:37:02 PM
I'm kind of surprised we are not seeing volunteer citizens of other countries going to Ukraine to fight the russians . Ordinary citizens, ex -mil , SOF mercenary types

Depending on how much longer this invasion goes on for, I'd be surprised if we didn't see that happening.
I'm hearing whispers that it already is.

Now they seem to make it official.  :smiley_clap:

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-creates-foreign-legion-volunteers-abroad-join-fight-russia-1683024

My 20 year old self straight out of Army Recon would have been sorely tempted to go...

Especially since Russia/Putin isn't a
direct threat to Sweden while they are tied up in Ukraine, and giving them a bloody nose in Ukraine might help prevent further "expansionist adventures"...

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wee drop o bush

Dopaminergic medication for Parkinson's can cause psychosis, I know this as my good friends Mum had Parkinson's and medicating her effectively was a balancing act between lessening her shakes and still keeping her sane. Maybe this is what's rattling Putins sabers
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Quote from: wee drop o bush on March 01, 2022, 01:42:44 PM
Dopaminergic medication for Parkinson's can cause psychosis, I know this as my good friends Mum had Parkinson's and medicating her effectively was a balancing act between lessening her shakes and still keeping her sane. Maybe this is what's rattling Putins sabers

The timing fits.
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The Ukranian TV tower gets hit and doesn't go down.  Comments on Reddit say they did lose television signal, but only for about 30 minutes.  Looks like some pretty solid construction.  (Video plays on loop)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TFxumsCEDU
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The tower has a welded steel core the cables and waveguides ran through.  Very solid construction.

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majorhavoc

Quote from: NT2C on March 01, 2022, 06:16:15 PM
Dee Snider approves Ukrainians' use of 'We're Not Gonna Take It' amid Russian invasion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AbeALNVkk

I'm really beginning to admire the hell out of these Ukrainians.  They're not just fighting back.  They're fighting back with style

Meanwhile, some of the Russian troops seem to lack the same esprit de corps

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/01/world/europe/russia-troops-pentagon.html
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