Knife Chat: Slicing to the meat of all things sharp

[MacWa77ace]

Well, I do have a cavalry saber in the hallway...

That counts as 3. But you have to wear it.

I have this in my garage, its my heavyweight machette. Short Sword with no name cuts thru thigh sized banana trees with one wack.

We're counting machetes?  Cool!  I have several of those, including a USGI Ontario 22"

And my wife wears the saber in the family.

Its a short sword but since I only use it for cutting down banana trees etc i've renamed it. But a rose by any other name is still a sword.

[Moab]

I want to say the length of the grip on the ESEE-4 is about 1cm short of ideal for my handsize. But the weight and size and utility is excellent. I had considered the E5 at the same time as the E4, to get a longer grip size but the price difference to ergonomics didn't make sense. I might get a E5 down the line if funding comes available.

There is another sort of rounded micarta grip with a chipped flint style texture that I was looking at but the price to change them or the need to is why I haven't done it.

I'm going to check the size of that allen screw to see if its one that I carry with all the time. If it is then it won't be an issue, but I didn't think about that. THX.

That S&W Homeland is ridiculously heavy too. Last night I was trying to judge it and I'm pretty sure its at least 16 oz. [Just confirmed its 17.2 oz]

I think my next fixed blade is going to be an IWB concealable pick style. But that would be redundant since if I have pockets I'm carrying my EDC folder. And as we speak I already have 3 blades on my person.  SAK, ZT 0452CF, and Leatherman ST-300.



If I wear my HRT necknife and the IWB knife I could have 5 knifes on my person at any one time. A boot knife would almost max me out. LOL

Which pick style knife? I've been looking at these lately. 

[MacWa77ace]

We'll the pick style is pretty much the same size and shape across brands. There are small variances on the grips, angles, and the way to holsters attach. Like a Bowie Knife, if it doesn't look like what its supposed to, its not really a Bowie.

If you're asking which brand I can't recommend. Shivworks revitalized them IIRC.

Look at type of holster and how it attaches and conceals, shape of grip, price and then the reviews is about all I can say at this point.

https://www.knifeguides.com/clinch-pick-knife/

Push daggers are another style but in California daggers with the name dagger are not legal. Again check your states precedents for what they say about pick knives being daggers or not.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

I don't think anything is illegal in Texas knifewise. Except maybe those ballistic knives, but I'd have to double check before I said anything on that. 

I think it was back in 2019 when my state said "Screw it. Let's get rid of the stupid blade length limit law and what kind of bladed weapons folks can carry."

Before then we couldn't even carry a Bowie knife and Texas is well known for that particular style knife.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Oh, and before I forget it, I ordered another Civivi Praxis folder. 

I tend to do this with most knives I really like, which probably explains why I have a small plastic desk organizer thing full of my various folding and smaller fixed blades (the larger ones live in a drawer on my nightstand.).

[flybynight]

So, five years ago , Woodswalker made this video

https://youtu.be/QqrA8BtVpEk
  At the time I thought it was a pretty neat knife that I could use.  I've seen it for sale at some European knife websites and on Amazon but always with a stiff shipping charge . And also usually marked out of stock
Today we were at Walmart and I was making a quick pass through the sporting goods dept.  I checked to see what kind of shotgun shells they had and sitting on the shell  shelf were two of these

https://www.camillusknives.com/camillus-swedge-fixed-blade-knife.html

$17.56  It's not the hacking knife Woodswalker showed in the video. But the concept is the same. Tried it out making tinder for the fire stove this afternoon. It worked well . Now I just need to figure out how o even if I want to incorporate it into one of my bags. Or just use it for the wood stove. Maybe I will start a new day pack bag around the knife

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

The knife Woodswalker showed kind of reminds me of the Ontario "Gobar" knife.

Smoky Mountain Knife Works has those for about 60 bucks and I think Midway had some for less than that a few weeks ago.

[NT2C]

Got my bayonet for my BM59 in yesterday's mail.  I'm resisting the temptation to put a better edge on it.  The edge it has is fine for a bayonet, which is more for stabbing than for cutting and sharpening it further would just remove the coating on the blade that keeps it from rusting.

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[NT2C]

Hacking knife you say?

Or perhaps this one?

[flybynight]

Hacking knife you say?

Or perhaps this one?

I believe the Hyde model is the one Woodswalker had in the video. (have to re watch the video to be sure)  Ok after I typed that I checked my Amazon wish list cause I've had  the knife on my wish list for five years. And it isn't either of the companies you linked. I'll check the video  again in a bit to be sure. But this is the one from my list

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001P06NK/?coliid=I14Z02BI7B24QN&colid=223CV76HK1ZSJ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

[NT2C]

Hacking knife you say?

Or perhaps this one?

I believe the Hyde model is the one Woodswalker had in the video. (have to re watch the video to be sure)  Ok after I typed that I checked my Amazon wish list cause I've had  the knife on my wish list for five years. And it isn't either of the companies you linked. I'll check the video  again in a bit to be sure. But this is the one from my list

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001P06NK/?coliid=I14Z02BI7B24QN&colid=223CV76HK1ZSJ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

The second one is what you want.

[MacWa77ace]

Got my bayonet for my BM59 in yesterday's mail.  I'm resisting the temptation to put a better edge on it.  The edge it has is fine for a bayonet, which is more for stabbing than for cutting and sharpening it further would just remove the coating on the blade that keeps it from rusting.

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Nice

I thought 'modern' bayonets were all purpose knives which included survival use if necessary.

What are all those shims at the pommel?

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Those shims are actually the locking mechanism for when you attach the bayonet to the rifle, Mac.

There's a groove in the pommel that slides over the bayonet lug and there's also a little tab that you press to take it off the lug.

[NT2C]

I thought 'modern' bayonets were all purpose knives which included survival use if necessary.

What are all those shims at the pommel?

Ah, questions!  I once wrote a long research paper about the history of the bayonet for a computer game add-on.  I love bayonet questions. Modern US doctrine is that bayonets are as you say.  This is not a US bayonet though, it's Italian for use on the Beretta BM-59 rifle that started production in the 1950s.  Italian troops then (and now) mostly use a folding knife or a different fixed blade for "normal" day-to-day tasks.  The bayonet is almost considered purely ceremonial these days but is still carried by certain troops (mostly guard troops) for use at close range.

Chimpov gave you the straight dope on the attachment mechanism. I can provide close-up pictures of it if you want.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Speaking of guard troops, don't the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier guards still carry bayonets attached to their M14's ?

And I'm kind of bummed the only thing I have that takes a bayonet is my Mosin. Neither my AK or AR is set up for a bayonet (not without modifications anyway).

[NT2C]

Speaking of guard troops, don't the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier guards still carry bayonets attached to their M14's ?

And I'm kind of bummed the only thing I have that takes a bayonet is my Mosin. Neither my AK or AR is set up for a bayonet (not without modifications anyway).

Yes, indeed they do.  And they will use them if they have to.  They do "warn" transgressors by cycling the bolt but with no magazine in place it's strictly for intimidation.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Speaking of guard troops, don't the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier guards still carry bayonets attached to their M14's ?

And I'm kind of bummed the only thing I have that takes a bayonet is my Mosin. Neither my AK or AR is set up for a bayonet (not without modifications anyway).

Yes, indeed they do.  And they will use them if they have to.  They do "warn" transgressors by cycling the bolt but with no magazine in place it's strictly for intimidation.

Still, I'd rather not get poked with what's essentially a four foot or so long spear even if it's not loaded.

Which is probably one reason I like my Mosin. It's a nearly six foot long (total length with bayonet is 5'7") spear that has the ability to launch 148 grain projectiles at about 2,800 fps.

[NT2C]

Evidently, SMKW has a real problem with shipping.  Not that they ship late or slowly rather, in over-shipping orders.  I ordered a Kershaw Static in Brass from them the other day on a good discount.  I was kinda surprised when two of them, in completely separate packages, showed up in my mailbox.  I checked my order with them and there was just one ordered.  I checked the invoice in each one and neither had my actual order number on it.  They were sent out one at the beginning of the day, one at the end of the day.  At this point I'm thinking to myself, "Cool, a freebie (USPS regs allow you to keep unordered merchandise as free gifts) but what am I gonna do with it?  I bought it as a gift for someone and don't want my own."  Deciding to be a nice guy I decided to contact them and return the extra one.  I realized that this is an ongoing issue for them when I saw that Step 2 of the preprinted return form stuffed in with the invoice actually had a "duplicate shipment" checkbox.  (My wife got a kick out of the "My spouse found out" checkbox, which their customer service lady said accounts for about 60% of their returns.)  The difficult part was "How do you want your refund?"  It wasn't until the C/S agent urged me to look that I realized they'd charged me twice, once when the order was placed, and once that very morning.  THAT pissed me right the fuck off.  That second charge was 100% unauthorized and I'm tempted to make a big stink of it with the FTC.  Yeah, I'll get my money refunded by them when they get the knife back (plus a few days of processing) but the point is that they essentially stole it from me to cover their own mistake.  I will no longer be doing business with SMKW.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

I had a similar problem with Amazon, but I didn't receive my order until after Amazon fixed their screw up and I paid 7 bucks in shipping.

[Moab]

I had a similar problem with Amazon, but I didn't receive my order until after Amazon fixed their screw up and I paid 7 bucks in shipping.

I have had the opposite problem with amazon. A few times. If something is late or they cant track it they say its lost. Send a second one. And when the first one shows up you can keep that too. My wife just got a second pair of slippers for free.

Sort of related but not. I bought $2500 tv from a place in brooklyn. Was supposed to be new. Came as a class b refurbished. I called visa. Apparently theyd had problems with this guy. After a long investigation. They called me up to inform me they had refunded me the $2500. The tv had been sitting in the box in our living room. I asked when I needed to have the tv returned by. They said its ok just keep it. They must have really wanted to stick it to this guy. Lol. 

Funny thing was I had purchased a second new one from Bestbiy. Brand new. And we set up the class b refurb in our living room. The class b had a better picture than the new one from bestbuy.