https://www.foxla.com/news/teens-riding-e-bikes-accused-terrorizing-south-bay-residents
You don't have to read the article. Although it does include statements from LE.
E-bikes are a plague here now. The most popular ones are as fast as a motorcycle, silent and not only don't have lights, but not even a reflector. Somehow these are classed as bicycles.
They cost a lot too.
At first everyone was concerned for teen safety. As local kids drive these at night. Doing wheelies. Driving into incoming traffic. Often don't wear a helmet. And if they do it's a cheap bicycle helmet. Woefully inadequate.
But now groups of kids from other areas are driving to beach cities and terrorizing teens and adults now. Knocking over, terrorizing and beating up kids and adults alike. One woman in the video is 75 yrs old. And was assaulted in the parking lot of Trader Joes. Another kid is seen getting knocked down and beaten by a group of teens.
They are extremely fast. And blacked out. So by time cops show up everyone is long gone.
I will say they are the perfect bug out vehicle. Although you can't carry much. I have almost run over several kids completely ignoring traffic laws. And I know I sound like the grouchy old man yelling for the kids to get off my lawn. Lol. But now they are using them to basically assault random strangers. And get away.
At first my concern was what parent buys there kid a $3000+ silent motorcycle (basically) that no one can see in traffic. Half without helmets. And even if they do wear a helmet it's not a motorcycle helmet. And who makes these without lights or reflectors of any kind?!
But now they are being used to basically terrorize a community. So glad I'm moving. It just can't be fast enough.
What happens when an old fart jams his/her cane into the spokes?
Another version of skateboard poser punks, a plague around here. No attacks to date as AK is a Constitutional Concealed Carry state.
The biggest risk here is the drunks/dopers living in the bushes next to most major trails....
Quote from: TACAIR on May 25, 2024, 02:40:49 PMWhat happens when an old fart jams his/her cane into the spokes?
Another version of skateboard poser punks, a plague around here. No attacks to date as AK is a Constitutional Concealed Carry state.
The biggest risk here is the drunks/dopers living in the bushes next to most major trails....
Like that young kid? Or the middle aged man that was falsely arrested for fighting back? The guy with the cane would get jumped by the entire group. And have his ass beat. The cops would show up after everyone was gone. And nothing would happen. These criminals know this. It's why their doing it in the first place. They know they won't get caught. So it's free rein.
This is California. Where no one raises their children. They just let them run wild. While waiting for their bed in prison to clear. And eventually they grow up into full blown criminals.
People here think that if you were raised disadvantaged. You then deserve to riot, destroy things, being as violent as you want, be released early from jail or prison, shoplift at will and generally do whatever you want. Because it's societies fault that you didn't get the care to raise you right. They basically justify any ill action you perpetrate on society. Because you were demographically disadvantaged. There is no accountability on an individual level.
If you saw the local headlines everyday. You would be terrified. They don't make the national news. Every single day the headlines go into detail about the top, most recent killings. Not all of them. Just the ones that are newsworthy. They have a large group to choose from. The home invasions, the robberies, the rapes - everything barely makes a blip.
Recruiting for cops is for six figure positions. But they can't fill enough posts. Even in coushy beach communities. So there isn't nearly enough cops. My town used to be overly policed. Now you rarely see one. 3 home invasions within 6 blocks of my house in recent weeks. But you can't blame anyone for not wanted to have a career in law enforcement here. No one supports them. Neither the people nor the governments they work for. And you'd have to live here. Who would want to raise their family even within driving distance of this?
People here are so naive. And it's not getting better. It's getting worse.
It is simple. If there are no consequences for actions then why not engage in those actions.
In NOLA people ( I hesitate to call them kids) ride ATVs on main streets and even Interstate 10 at some points. Clearly the ATVs cannot keep up with 60 mph traffic but they do it anyway.
There are no consequences so there is no reason to not do it.
The NOPD cannot catch them and they know it. I am sure the e-bike issue is the same.
If you confront them the group will attack. So plan ahead pick yours spot and remember the no consequences can apply both ways. That said as evidenced by the fact the attacked got arrested, if there are consequences they will fall on you.
Plan accordingly.
Every time I read a post like this I am more and more certain I made the right decision to move to my remote locale.
That behavior would, in all probability, get someone shot up here.With damn few repercussions. At the very least the idiots on the ebikes would be treated to a friendly *counseling* from several locals.
Quote from: Lambykins on May 26, 2024, 09:24:30 PMEvery time I read a post like this I am more and more certain I made the right decision to move to my remote locale.
That behavior would, in all probability, get someone shot up here.With damn few repercussions. At the very least the idiots on the ebikes would be treated to a friendly *counseling* from several locals.
It's just another reason I am moving to remote MT myself.
Quote from: Lambykins on May 26, 2024, 09:24:30 PMEvery time I read a post like this I am more and more certain I made the right decision to move to my remote locale.
That behavior would, in all probability, get someone shot up here.With damn few repercussions. At the very least the idiots on the ebikes would be treated to a friendly *counseling* from several locals.
Sounds like my AO.
Remember the "Killer Clown" trend from a few years back ?
Some local idiot tried pranking folks in my town doing that and ended up getting severely beaten by someone he tried to prank at a local park.
I think the pranker ended up with a couple broken ribs, a concussion and some other injuries.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 26, 2024, 11:18:25 PMQuote from: Lambykins on May 26, 2024, 09:24:30 PMEvery time I read a post like this I am more and more certain I made the right decision to move to my remote locale.
That behavior would, in all probability, get someone shot up here.With damn few repercussions. At the very least the idiots on the ebikes would be treated to a friendly *counseling* from several locals.
Sounds like my AO.
Remember the "Killer Clown" trend from a few years back ?
Some local idiot tried pranking folks in my town doing that and ended up getting severely beaten by someone he tried to prank at a local park.
I think the pranker ended up with a couple broken ribs, a concussion and some other injuries.
Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.
Consequences have a way of changing behavior.
Quote from: Raptor on May 27, 2024, 11:08:00 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on May 26, 2024, 11:18:25 PMQuote from: Lambykins on May 26, 2024, 09:24:30 PMEvery time I read a post like this I am more and more certain I made the right decision to move to my remote locale.
That behavior would, in all probability, get someone shot up here.With damn few repercussions. At the very least the idiots on the ebikes would be treated to a friendly *counseling* from several locals.
Sounds like my AO.
Remember the "Killer Clown" trend from a few years back ?
Some local idiot tried pranking folks in my town doing that and ended up getting severely beaten by someone he tried to prank at a local park.
I think the pranker ended up with a couple broken ribs, a concussion and some other injuries.
Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.
Consequences have a way of changing behavior.
In this case, so does a baseball bat upside the head.
QuoteAt first my concern was what parent buys there kid a $3000+ silent motorcycle (basically) that no one can see in traffic. Half without helmets. And even if they do wear a helmet it's not a motorcycle helmet. And who makes these without lights or reflectors of any kind?!
Yeah, not so much. You are making an odd assumption that the bikes were purchased.
Also EBikes are not so much anymore.
20MPH - $289
https://www.amazon.com/Jasion-Removable-Commuting-Brushless-Suspension/dp/B09L63HGDP/ref=asc_df_B09L63HGDP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693769127012&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16165893601445319919&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1012944&hvtargid=pla-1949476818910&mcid=6ffaed3b94e6332dbcf7b5dcc2f2945d&gad_source=1&th=1
28MPH - $759
https://www.jasionbike.com/products/eb7-st?currency=USD&variant=44086244540653&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=d3e0c9774394&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImKioqMiwhgMVTUh_AB20Owc_EAQYBSABEgIPjfD_BwE
Note that Federal Law limits their top speed to 28MPH. If they are going faster they have modified the bike in some way.
QuoteConsequences have a way of changing behavior.
This. Always this.
Quote from: Uomo Senza Nome on May 28, 2024, 09:39:14 AMQuoteAt first my concern was what parent buys there kid a $3000+ silent motorcycle (basically) that no one can see in traffic. Half without helmets. And even if they do wear a helmet it's not a motorcycle helmet. And who makes these without lights or reflectors of any kind?!
Yeah, not so much. You are making an odd assumption that the bikes were purchased.
Also EBikes are not so much anymore.
20MPH - $289
https://www.amazon.com/Jasion-Removable-Commuting-Brushless-Suspension/dp/B09L63HGDP/ref=asc_df_B09L63HGDP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693769127012&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16165893601445319919&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1012944&hvtargid=pla-1949476818910&mcid=6ffaed3b94e6332dbcf7b5dcc2f2945d&gad_source=1&th=1
28MPH - $759
https://www.jasionbike.com/products/eb7-st?currency=USD&variant=44086244540653&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=d3e0c9774394&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImKioqMiwhgMVTUh_AB20Owc_EAQYBSABEgIPjfD_BwE
Note that Federal Law limits their top speed to 28MPH. If they are going faster they have modified the bike in some way.
QuoteConsequences have a way of changing behavior.
This. Always this.
These are a very specific model electric bike. They look more like motorcycles. There is one brand here. That is extremely popular with kids. I think they are very fast. All black. With no lights or reflectors. Which makes it worse. Literally every kid that has one has this one specific model.
The better off kids around here have gotten them from their parents. A lot are not up to no good. Just foolish and not safe. Cheap bicycle helmets, no lights and distracted. Or ignoring traffic laws. Or performing stunts in traffic to show off. It's like the new skateboarding. Except it's in the middle of traffic. Traveling at way to high a speed. I saw one girl literally on her phone. While traveling at least 20mph with one hand.
But these kids out looking to fight people. Are a different group. Probably stolen electric bikes. Same or similar models.
It's not that this a major violence crisis or anything. Just an example of how little respect for the law there is here. I mean people are shot and killed here everyday. But now the young kids don't even have any respect for the law. Let alone simple sociatel rules. Respect for the elderly. Who the hell thinks it's ok or funny to f with old people? How bad was your parenting that you think that's ok? Or fun?
There isn't even the most veiled attempt to give these kids any examples of a good world. It's just violence and mayhem. And they've known nothing else for generations. Their parents are more than likely little more than kids themselves.
This is also a dumping ground for people from all over the world. That come from desparate countries. Where the rule of law and basic human decency mean little. Violence seems to be the rule of the day. And human life seems to mean nothing. These kids are just a tiny window into what is going on here. And why people are moving away. It is actually much much worse in an adult level. If you can call them that.
Probably these then https://surron-ebikes.com/
e-bikes themselves are a big controversy everywhere. From paved multipurpose trails that are designed for walking/jogging/bicycling to mountain bike trails designed for human powered bikes. The entitled/electric bikes believe that adding a battery and motor to a human powered bike still falls under human powered even though they can run 2x as fast as the human powered bikes on the trails. They don't share the road very well.
Quote from: eugenenine on May 28, 2024, 03:51:16 PMProbably these then https://surron-ebikes.com/
e-bikes themselves are a big controversy everywhere. From paved multipurpose trails that are designed for walking/jogging/bicycling to mountain bike trails designed for human powered bikes. The entitled/electric bikes believe that adding a battery and motor to a human powered bike still falls under human powered even though they can run 2x as fast as the human powered bikes on the trails. They don't share the road very well.
It's not those e-bikes. But I know those. Nice bikes for a Bugout. :)
I'll find the model later. The style is like a 60s Honda almost. Flat long seat.
I wouldn't say nice for a bugout, they usually don't have very much range and then when the battery goes dead they are heavy.
I'll keep my human powered bike https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/15576821809
Quote from: eugenenine on May 28, 2024, 04:54:09 PMI wouldn't say nice for a bugout, they usually don't have very much range and then when the battery goes dead they are heavy.
I'll keep my human powered bike https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/15576821809
Ya. Not a daily driver. Just something to get you out of Dodge quickly and silently. I think the ones that are more bike than ebike are best for that.
They will get you out of a very localized issue but not enough range for a bugout. And once you have gotten out of that local area your still faced with a bike with a dead battery.
"teens' out of control. No longer any fear of punishment....
NJ shore town closes boardwalk and declares state of emergency after chaos over 'unruly' teens on Memorial Day weekend (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2024/05/27/us-news/nj-shore-town-closes-boardwalk-and-declares-state-of-emergency-after-chaos-over-unruly-teens-on-memorial-day-weekend/)
Apparently July 1st there's an ammo excise tax going into effect for Kalifornia?!?
@Moab you better stock up now.
https://digitaldemocracy.calmatters.org/bills/ca_202320240ab28
QuoteThis bill, the Gun Violence Prevention and School Safety Act, would, commencing July 1, 2024, impose an excise tax in the amount of 11% of the gross receipts from the retail sale in this state of a firearm, firearm precursor part, and ammunition, as specified.
I'm aware. I'm going to buy some. But prices are higher at gun stores. You can only buy there. And if you don't have that caliber firearm registered. You won't pass the background. Yes. You have to go thru a background check just to buy ammo.
I have several firearms that I brought here before they started their computerized system. Any arm that gets transferred since then is subject to being registered.
There is no gun registry in law. But this is how they get around that. By not allowing you to buy ammo for that firearm. If you don't have a gun in that caliber registered.
Just saw this on YT
https://youtu.be/0w_8zEuw9oo?si=AsWyYu7mj-GeCAqe
Quote from: flybynight on June 05, 2024, 05:34:27 PMJust saw this on YT
https://youtu.be/0w_8zEuw9oo?si=AsWyYu7mj-GeCAqe
I'm not at all surprised. The majority of those 50,000 employees at LAX are low paid. And live in the same communities as every criminal organization in the city. Which have ties world wide. It doesn't take much to get someone to cooperate or look the other way. It's like that all over the city. I'm sure this route for drug distribution was discovered by employees decades ago. And simply shared with neighors. And then spread from there. Everyone knows someone into a good scam. If they aren't already involved in their own.
If you know someone at DMV you can get a real driver's license. That actually scans into the state computer system. If it were ever checked. Need your car smogged? That can be paid for too. I know guys that do it. Need a gun? Need credit cards? Need a credit card machine? Need a SSN card? I could show you exactly where to go. Who to ask. And as long as you fit in. It's easy.
Have an easy scam you can run at your place of employment? You can easily find help. It's just a completely different world than the rest of the nation understands.
Airlines and airport employees have been involved (either directly or indirectly) in smuggling (not just drugs but anything) shortly after the first international flight occurred.
1988:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/1988/07/25/airlines-taking-the-rap-for-drug-smugglers/
2018:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/undercover-fbi-operation-busts-10-airline-employees-alleged/story?id=55182504
2022:
https://globalnews.ca/news/9271606/pivot-airlines-crew-detained-freed-dominican-republic/
It's like every day you hear something else
Thieves are stealing L.A. County fire hydrants by the hundreds
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hydrants-vanish-imperiling-l-county-100053309.html
Huh.
Two of my kids have started talking about moving up here because of the crap happening in their areas.
I told them I CAN NOT support them. I CAN NOT house them. They would have to make it on their own. PERIOD.
It's not easy to live here. BUT I trust my neighbors, I trust my local PD. If anarchy hits up here, I trust the local gun store (seriously). I know probably six people up here that would hand me a firearm with no hesitation if I said I was in need of one.
There is something *different* about living in such a remote area. We police ourselves, for the most part. We help each other. The social construct is different up here.
Quote from: Moab on June 04, 2024, 03:12:45 PMI'm aware. I'm going to buy some. But prices are higher at gun stores. You can only buy there. And if you don't have that caliber firearm registered. You won't pass the background. Yes. You have to go thru a background check just to buy ammo.
I have several firearms that I brought here before they started their computerized system. Any arm that gets transferred since then is subject to being registered.
There is no gun registry in law. But this is how they get around that. By not allowing you to buy ammo for that firearm. If you don't have a gun in that caliber registered.
I'm still reading this and shaking my head, because I can see my own state doing the same.
It's the real-life equivalent of one of my most hated questions: "What do you need THAT for?"
Quote from: echo83 on June 09, 2024, 07:42:20 AMQuote from: Moab on June 04, 2024, 03:12:45 PMI'm aware. I'm going to buy some. But prices are higher at gun stores. You can only buy there. And if you don't have that caliber firearm registered. You won't pass the background. Yes. You have to go thru a background check just to buy ammo.
I have several firearms that I brought here before they started their computerized system. Any arm that gets transferred since then is subject to being registered.
There is no gun registry in law. But this is how they get around that. By not allowing you to buy ammo for that firearm. If you don't have a gun in that caliber registered.
I'm still reading this and shaking my head, because I can see my own state doing the same.
It's the real-life equivalent of one of my most hated questions: "What do you need THAT for?"
I'm going to the outdoor gun range next week with my son for Fathers Day. I have several pistols that were brought here (CA) far before the states computerized system. Or any of these crazy laws. But like I said, there is no state wide registry. But you won't pass the background to buy ammo for them if they haven't been run thru the system.
I would like to shoot several of them with my son next week. They sell reasonably priced ammo at the range. But I am afraid of taking them with me. I don't know if they ask to inspect your firearms. Or will even sell ammo for many of them. As they are in calibers I have not run thru the state database before.
So you're in fear of somehow losing your guns even if you were to transport them. Or try to buy ammo for them at a range.
1 registered buys for 20 grandfathered in the same caliber?
Quote from: MacWa77ace on June 09, 2024, 05:49:59 PM1 registered buys for 20 grandfathered in the same caliber?
No. Let's say you have 8 pistols. But only 1 of them was purchased in the state after they started recording sales in their statewide computerized database. Which started maybe 10 years ago(?).
Any guns owned prior to that did not have to go into the state database. There was no statewide registry. No forced registration of your firearms. There still isn't.
If you owned 7 of those 8 pistols prior to the database. But you bought one after the database was set up. You can buy ammo for that one gun at a gun store - only after passing the ammo background check.
If you try to go buy ammo for any of those other 7 guns you owned prior to the state database being set up. You will fail the background to buy ammo. Unless that caliber shows up as a gun you transferred in the state database - since it was setup.
So if you have a .357 that you've owned since prior to the database. But you've never purchased/transferred a .357 since the database was set up. They will fail your background for ammo if you try to buy .357 ammo.
Thus creating a partial firearms ban on any guns owned prior to the database - by never allowing you to legally buy ammo for it. Unless you happened to say buy another .357 since the database was set up.
It's little, tiny, line item, incremental steps towards an outright ban. In fact, it probably won't be called a "ban" at all. It will be a collection of many, tiny rules, that no one notices in it's entirety. But it will end up leaving the vast majority of citizens not being able to either own or shoot a vast majority of the guns.
Like the "roster". They put out a list of guns that you are "allowed" to buy. The rest are illegal. That by itself took thousands of guns out of reach.
They also passed laws that no new guns can be sold in CA without being able to have the serial number stamped on every primer by each guns firing pin. This was passed years ago. And the technology still doesn't exist. It didn't even exist when they passed the law.
The list of legislative road blocks that have been set up to stop gun ownership is massive. Online retailers can't sell to CA residents without applying for permission from the state of CA. This is why so many online retailers simply won't sell to anyone in CA. The administrative process is daunting and continual.
They've literally sat down and come up with every tiny little hassle they can to make it impossible or more difficult. In July there is a new 11% tax on rifles. Or maybe it's ammo. Firearms and transfers are already higher in CA than anywhere else. A transfer is $100-$125. The price of new guns is easily 20% than anywhere else.
I just told the story on here somewhere. Where it took me 6 hours, standing on concrete floors with no bathroom, to buy a pistol last month. That was over 3 trips of 2hrs each. And 2 other trips I gave up because the line was to long. Imagine how long the lines would be in your state if it took 6 hours for each person to buy a gun? The state has set up so many administrative roadblocks for customers and stores. It's stopped a huge percentage of customers and stores from buying or doing any business.
They figured out that getting something banned was to hard if you tried to do it all at once. Everyone would see what they were doing. And not agree to it. And you accomplish the same thing by doing it incrementally. Making tiny little changes, rules, ordnances, policy changes, lists. It's been going on for years here.
They would never have passed a ban on all the guns, ammo and situations you can't have a firearm or ammo for. But when done in tiny "harmless" steps. They've gotten way closer in a short span of maybe 10 to 15 yrs.
It won't be called "The California Firearm Ban". It will be called "California rules and regulations for firearm safety, possession and sales in California".
But it will be the same thing.
Death by bureaucracy is what that is called. It does not have to be illegal just such a pita that people do not want to go through the hassle.
This also applies to environmental permits, business permits and various other permissions..
Third world countries use this bureaucracy as a revenue source. Thier employees it use to obtain bribes. You can be sure that people with "friends" have no problem getting what they want.
The logic is similar.
Welcome to the world of a cleptocracy.
Quote from: Moab on June 09, 2024, 10:04:22 PMQuote from: MAC1 registered buys for 20 grandfathered in the same caliber?
No. Let's say you have 8 pistols. But only 1 of them was purchased in the state after they started recording sales in their statewide computerized database. Which started maybe 10 years ago(?).
That sucks and I get it. But I'm saying; If you have 10) different model 9mm handguns and only one is registered. They all take the same 9mm. You can supply all 10 with the one registered handgun? Right? Probably have max ammo purchases per date range per registered handgun? Like 100 rnds per month per gun, if you don't, you will soon. So get ready for that.
What also works is that when they come to take your one registered gun, your 9 grandfathered guns are in their respective caches. Along with the ammo.
Are all your handguns different calibers? :smiley_nah:
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There were a bunch of caliber consolidation threads that would have worked for prepping for this scenario. Think on old ZS. Maybe here on UFoZS.
We've got to assume that at any moment there will be no more ammo available ever. For whatever reason. Do we have enough ammo cached for when that happens?
Quote from: Raptor on June 10, 2024, 08:28:04 AMDeath by bureaucracy is what that is called. It does not have to be illegal just such a pita that people do not want to go through the hassle.
This also applies to environmental permits, business permits and various other permissions..
Third world countries use this bureaucracy as a revenue source. Thier employees it use to obtain bribes. You can be sure that people with "friends" have no problem getting what they want.
The logic is similar.
Welcome to the world of a cleptocracy.
They are doing the same thing with small farms. With water. This should alarm everyone. Search YT by "small farms closed water". OR and ID have closed hundreds of small farms for over water usage. Big business is trying to take over water. Hundreds of small one acre to several acres farms are being closed across large swath's of land by the state.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on June 10, 2024, 08:51:10 AMQuote from: Moab on June 09, 2024, 10:04:22 PMQuote from: MAC1 registered buys for 20 grandfathered in the same caliber?
No. Let's say you have 8 pistols. But only 1 of them was purchased in the state after they started recording sales in their statewide computerized database. Which started maybe 10 years ago(?).
That sucks and I get it. But I'm saying; If you have 10) different model 9mm handguns and only one is registered. They all take the same 9mm. You can supply all 10 with the one registered handgun? Right? Probably have max ammo purchases per date range per registered handgun? Like 100 rnds per month per gun, if you don't, you will soon. So get ready for that.
What also works is that when they come to take your one registered gun, your 9 grandfathered guns are in their respective caches. Along with the ammo.
Are all your handguns different calibers? :smiley_nah:
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There were a bunch of caliber consolidation threads that would have worked for prepping for this scenario. Think on old ZS. Maybe here on UFoZS.
We've got to assume that at any moment there will be no more ammo available ever. For whatever reason. Do we have enough ammo cached for when that happens?
Yes. All different calibers. If they were all 9mm it wouldn't be a problem. And none were 9mm. My newly registered pistol is 9mm.
I don't have enough cached for the other ones. Most of them I inherited from my BIL who was LEO. And are all different calibers. I was going to have someone just ship it to me. Then the online ammo ban got lifted. I thought it was for good. Found out at the LGS it was only for 2 days. Still not sure what I'm going to do. I have enough for my Glock .357 SIG, Beretta .22, and will get enough for my new 9mm.
The rest are .38 special, .380 and a bunch of large calibers .357 etc. revolvers. Not to worried about those as anything but trade and backup arms. I have an ok stockpile of AR and AK ammo. But I have one each of those being transferred back into state. So I will be able to buy more. At inflated CA LGS prices(!). My main stockpiling will be done once we move.
https://x.com/i/status/1799505622125137969
Why we can't have nice things...in Memphis.
Quote from: TACAIR on June 10, 2024, 07:33:43 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/1799505622125137969
Why we can't have nice things...in Memphis.
You know guns aim themselves. Right?! Lol. It amazes me that guns have been used in high crime areas for hundreds of years. Yet they rarely get aimed. Lol.
Quote from: Moab on June 10, 2024, 04:50:40 PMYes. All different calibers. If they were all 9mm it wouldn't be a problem. And none were 9mm. My newly registered pistol is 9mm.
It sounds to me like a caliber consolidation is in order to 9mm.
You may want to consider selling off the non-9mm firearms and using those funds to inventory more 9mm. That is unless you have plans to relocate. A 9mm with ammo trumps any firearm without ammo.
Quote from: TACAIR on June 10, 2024, 07:33:43 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/1799505622125137969
Why we can't have nice things...in Memphis.
Not just in Memphis:
NOLA
https://www.fox8live.com/2021/01/28/surveillance-video-captures-afternoon-shootout-st-roch/
Philadelphia
https://6abc.com/philadelphia-shooting-north-broad-street-shootout-the-met/14497952/
Chicago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjvEIHFPcA0&ab_channel=ABC7Chicago
...and so on.
Stay frosty and keep your head on a swivel.
Quote from: Raptor on June 11, 2024, 10:15:09 AMQuote from: Moab on June 10, 2024, 04:50:40 PMYes. All different calibers. If they were all 9mm it wouldn't be a problem. And none were 9mm. My newly registered pistol is 9mm.
It sounds to me like a caliber consolidation is in order to 9mm.
You may want to consider selling off the non-9mm firearms and using those funds to inventory more 9mm. That is unless you have plans to relocate. A 9mm with ammo trumps any firearm without ammo.
I didn't buy them that way. They were all inherited. No plans to sell any of them.
The 9mm I just bought is the one I will stock up for. The .22lr Beretta I will always have ammo for. And the Glock is .357sig. But it's gen 2. They only made 2000 of them. My grandfather gave it to me. So not only do I not shoot it. I doubt I will ever sell it.
The plan is a G19. But not until I move. As the only one approved to buy in CA is the G19 gen 3.
When I move I will get a Glock 19. And carry that and the Hellcat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam/comments/1dd5pms/viofo_a119_v3_oakland_is_currently_a_disaster/
Some quotes from the comments:
QuoteThat area is East Oakland which is notorious for allowing people to drive like this. I've seen cops waiting on a red light allow cars next to them run the red light and not do anything about it. It's like they don't care as long as you don't crash or hurt a pedestrian.
QuoteI believe Oakland is one of the places where the populace has basically told the PD not to do traffic enforcement anymore, so they've effectively stopped. This is the consequence.
Quote from: Anianna on June 11, 2024, 03:04:04 PMhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam/comments/1dd5pms/viofo_a119_v3_oakland_is_currently_a_disaster/
Some quotes from the comments:
QuoteThat area is East Oakland which is notorious for allowing people to drive like this. I've seen cops waiting on a red light allow cars next to them run the red light and not do anything about it. It's like they don't care as long as you don't crash or hurt a pedestrian.
QuoteI believe Oakland is one of the places where the populace has basically told the PD not to do traffic enforcement anymore, so they've effectively stopped. This is the consequence.
LA isn't that bad. That's crazy. But unless your killing someone no one gives a shit about LA traffic laws. The freeways are like a car race. Except no one is a professional driver. People get run over in surface streets on a daily basis.
In an a true major event these streets would quickly turn into a parking lot of chaos.
Quote from: Raptor on June 11, 2024, 10:15:09 AMQuote from: Moab on June 10, 2024, 04:50:40 PMYes. All different calibers. If they were all 9mm it wouldn't be a problem. And none were 9mm. My newly registered pistol is 9mm.
It sounds to me like a caliber consolidation is in order to 9mm.
You may want to consider selling off the non-9mm firearms and using those funds to inventory more 9mm. That is unless you have plans to relocate. A 9mm with ammo trumps any firearm without ammo.
Quote from: TACAIR on June 10, 2024, 07:33:43 PMhttps://x.com/i/status/1799505622125137969
Why we can't have nice things...in Memphis.
Not just in Memphis:
NOLA
https://www.fox8live.com/2021/01/28/surveillance-video-captures-afternoon-shootout-st-roch/
Philadelphia
https://6abc.com/philadelphia-shooting-north-broad-street-shootout-the-met/14497952/
Chicago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjvEIHFPcA0&ab_channel=ABC7Chicago
...and so on.
Stay frosty and keep your head on a swivel.
What caught my attention was the
automatic weapons fire. Might 'just' be an auto-Glock, but it did not sound like the std spray and pray. Most of the rounds looked to be both low and grouped.
Lmao! Perfect example of how well Los Angeles is doing....34 second video.
https://youtu.be/W6PlaSU2aJI?si=_WXgxqXz9n0SihJa
Quote from: Moab on June 18, 2024, 01:06:09 AMLmao! Perfect example of how well Los Angeles is doing....34 second video.
https://youtu.be/W6PlaSU2aJI?si=_WXgxqXz9n0SihJa
I saw that and was not sure what I found most disconcerting:
A. An armed secret service agent getting successfully robbed at gun point. I hope there were no weapons or secret items in the bag that could be used by foreign operators.
B. The agent fired his weapon and "was not sure he hit anything". So did he spray and pray? It sounded like an ego response.
Quote from: Raptor on June 18, 2024, 07:44:01 AMQuote from: Moab on June 18, 2024, 01:06:09 AMLmao! Perfect example of how well Los Angeles is doing....34 second video.
https://youtu.be/W6PlaSU2aJI?si=_WXgxqXz9n0SihJa
I saw that and was not sure what I found most disconcerting:
A. An armed secret service agent getting successfully robbed at gun point. I hope there were no weapons or secret items in the bag that could be used by foreign operators.
B. The agent fired his weapon and "was not sure he hit anything". So did he spray and pray? It sounded like an ego response.
Gotta be embarrassing. Glad he is alive. But just goes to show how nobody is safe here. Not even an armed Secret Service agent. We need security for an armed Secret Service agent now in LA?!
I had a Secret Service agent buy my compressor and a bunch of tools a couple years ago. He only disclosed his job after I shared my military experience, my PI license and my FFL license with him. All of which require FBI backgrounds. He had just been restationed. And was trying to outfit his garage with some tools. He was a very interesting person. Very fresh faced young guy. But with a build and demeanor that was like special forces different. I shook his hand and we talked for about 45 minutes. He was just built differently. Like a genetic Freak. He seemed like an Olympic wrestling experiment or something. Not super tall. But like 200lbs of neanderthal type body. But with a high level IQ. Super nice guy. But you could just tell you could not f with this guy. I'm sure not all of them are like that. But this guy was just something. Totally intimidating without even trying. Like he could move anyone out of his way. Without even making you feel bad. Lol. I don't even know how to explain it.
BAltimore (and many other Big Cities) have an "ATV problem"
( FOX45 News' investigation into Baltimore's surge of auto thefts reveal... | TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@foxbaltimore/video/7292134725475388703))
Where do these ATV in the impoud yard come from?
33 illegal dirt bikes and ATVs seized from Northwest Baltimore business - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DJZ6WPWm30)
not a new problem - from 10 years ago....
Riding With the 12 O'Clock Boys: Dirt Biking in Baltimore | Op-Docs (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30lKGIdOzQY)
NYPD crushes 92 dirt bikes, ATVs and other seized motorbikes (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GZfcnO5Bx4)
no impound lot cost, just use a dozer to solve the 'problem'.
Philly - Philadelphia police impound dozens of ATVs, dirt bikes as part of 2-day crackdown (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB89TD4MeJ4)
but, ATV riding is only part of the problems faced by "Big Cities"
BREAKING NEWS: NYPD Announces Arrest Of Undocumented Immigrant For Rape Of 13-Year-Old In Queens (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f61RBbtVhjM)
That sound is your country circling the drain.....
The moral of the story is just stay the hell away from big cities.
Ya. The ATV issue is all over.
Quote from: Moab on June 18, 2024, 03:56:03 PMThe moral of the story is just stay the hell away from big cities.
Ya. The ATV issue is all over.
It's ATV season here.
We can't shoot 'em though.... :tickedoff:
HUGE tourist thing, like the snowmobiles in winter. The tourists come up, rent ATVs and zip all over, usually ignoring no trespassing signs, speed limits, etc.
Quote from: Lambykins on June 19, 2024, 08:33:16 AMQuote from: Moab on June 18, 2024, 03:56:03 PMThe moral of the story is just stay the hell away from big cities.
Ya. The ATV issue is all over.
It's ATV season here.
We can't shoot 'em though.... :tickedoff:
HUGE tourist thing, like the snowmobiles in winter. The tourists come up, rent ATVs and zip all over, usually ignoring no trespassing signs, speed limits, etc.
I already have my 5 TAGs for this ATV hunting season here in FLORIDA
(https://i.imgur.com/i9tFWBN.jpg)
Quote from: MacWa77ace on June 19, 2024, 09:22:56 AMQuote from: Lambykins on June 19, 2024, 08:33:16 AMQuote from: Moab on June 18, 2024, 03:56:03 PMThe moral of the story is just stay the hell away from big cities.
Ya. The ATV issue is all over.
It's ATV season here.
We can't shoot 'em though.... :tickedoff:
HUGE tourist thing, like the snowmobiles in winter. The tourists come up, rent ATVs and zip all over, usually ignoring no trespassing signs, speed limits, etc.
I already have my 5 TAGs for this ATV hunting season here in FLORIDA
(https://i.imgur.com/i9tFWBN.jpg)
So you can only harvest M or F ATV's, you have to skip the non-binary ATV's?
Quote from: eugenenine on June 19, 2024, 11:16:40 AMSo you can only harvest M or F ATV's, you have to skip the non-binary ATV's?
uhhh, this is Florida, the harvesters inspect the pertinent parts after the fact and mark accordingly. There's no confusion in this state. :greenguy:
You see how dull the plumage is on this one? Female.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fatvscene.com%2Fatvscene%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F06%2F16OD_Grizzly_eps_se_grey_s4_RGB_LoRes.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=2994d3f6be84a68488e8ccedc88da72a78d0376dffebfbefe530a59c8dd8e488&ipo=images)
Brightly colored to attract a mate. [AKA breeding plumage] Male
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.atvrider.com%2Fresizer%2FUVAwrQ7FXZb2qLyR_4JPEgA52mg%3D%2F1440x0%2Fsmart%2Fcloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com%2Foctane%2FIRDG6NIDWBKQ7BYU5RJ7IO5SOY.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=2a8e10c16278d635451870396e1f11afed4fd190c28b4cded5b532b886daac3e&ipo=images)
On close inspection, Male. Underwent some mods, but you can tell by the crank case, and some residual identifiers that can't be hidden no matter how much paint is applied. This one even underwent transmission fluid replacement therapy. Still a dude. :greenguy:
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-uNDJSGxNhog%2FUb_B8aybEuI%2FAAAAAAAAEyU%2F6rHx5GHrPIA%2Fs1600%2FATV-Pictures-2013-Can-Am-Outlander-XTP-1000-1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=88bc0d03d4d6b9abf8d3ba83e6aaf07d9e5463e9c02907336e65326e2a378fba&ipo=images)
Female
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-N2TwkPjwFfA%2FUA0DZwx-PAI%2FAAAAAAAACl4%2Fl1b4Bu2k1Ts%2Fs1600%2F2012-Suzuki-KingQuad-400ASi-Camo-atv-pictures.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=101f2f5d449bd1127117b54a0c93f585bd91079f27356be9bceecbea278b2d2d&ipo=images)
Quote from: MacWa77ace on June 19, 2024, 01:48:32 PMYou see how dull the plumage is on this one? Female.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fatvscene.com%2Fatvscene%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F06%2F16OD_Grizzly_eps_se_grey_s4_RGB_LoRes.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=2994d3f6be84a68488e8ccedc88da72a78d0376dffebfbefe530a59c8dd8e488&ipo=images)
Brightly colored to attract a mate. [AKA breeding plumage] Male
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.atvrider.com%2Fresizer%2FUVAwrQ7FXZb2qLyR_4JPEgA52mg%3D%2F1440x0%2Fsmart%2Fcloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com%2Foctane%2FIRDG6NIDWBKQ7BYU5RJ7IO5SOY.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=2a8e10c16278d635451870396e1f11afed4fd190c28b4cded5b532b886daac3e&ipo=images)
On close inspection, Male. Underwent some mods, but you can tell by the crank case, and some residual identifiers that can't be hidden no matter how much paint is applied. This one even underwent transmission fluid replacement therapy. Still a dude. :greenguy:
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-uNDJSGxNhog%2FUb_B8aybEuI%2FAAAAAAAAEyU%2F6rHx5GHrPIA%2Fs1600%2FATV-Pictures-2013-Can-Am-Outlander-XTP-1000-1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=88bc0d03d4d6b9abf8d3ba83e6aaf07d9e5463e9c02907336e65326e2a378fba&ipo=images)
Female
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-N2TwkPjwFfA%2FUA0DZwx-PAI%2FAAAAAAAACl4%2Fl1b4Bu2k1Ts%2Fs1600%2F2012-Suzuki-KingQuad-400ASi-Camo-atv-pictures.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=101f2f5d449bd1127117b54a0c93f585bd91079f27356be9bceecbea278b2d2d&ipo=images)
:smiley_clap: :smiley_crocodile: :smiley_coolpeace:
That was hilarious.