I've seen some violent looking brass knuckles before. I follow alot of this content. There are several current day manufacturers and collectors. With some impressive designs. Older examples even included knifes and pistols.
But this one just looks mean on a whole new level.
When we discuss defense with weapons we often don't look beyond what is already in our sphere. Anyway. I thought this was pretty impressive. And takes this genre to a new level. Its not going to create any penetrating wounds. But its not going to get stuck in anything either.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn23ouwjrFC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Minus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.
I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 05:39:43 PMMinus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.
I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
I've been looking at 1918 trench knives for awhile. Originals come up on IMA frequently. But they are upwards of 350 to start. There are several sold out ones at the bottom of this search page. That are originals they have sold. Unfortunately they no longer list prices.
https://www.ima-usa.com/pages/search-results?q=1918%20trench%20knife
The only replica I have read good things about does not look original as it has a black finish. But is supposed to fairly well made.
https://www.atlantacutlery.com/1918-us-knuckle-duster-trench-knife
This guy supposedly will make you a high quality repica for $150. But his website is a mess. You would need to email him.
https://www.plowshareforge.com/
The cheap $25 knock offs are said to be terrible. The handle is actually pot metal. And the blade thinner than original.
Quote from: Moab on January 26, 2023, 05:11:11 PMI've seen some violent looking brass knuckles before. I follow alot of this content. There are several current day manufacturers and collectors. With some impressive designs. Older examples even included knifes and pistols.
But this one just looks mean on a whole new level.
When we discuss defense with weapons we often don't look beyond what is already in our sphere. Anyway. I thought this was pretty impressive. And takes this genre to a new level. Its not going to create any penetrating wounds. But its not going to get stuck in anything either.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn23ouwjrFC/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Another thing I just noticed is the bottle opener in the center hole of the grip. Lol. I wonder if that is/was its selling cover. The other brass knuckles I have seen are marketed as belt buckles.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 05:39:43 PMMinus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.
I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
Like this ?
https://www.opticsplanet.com/combat-ready-1917-trench-knife.html?utm_source=cse&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=connexity&utm_term=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&cnxclid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&msclkid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&utm_content=opticsplanet
Quote from: flybynight on January 26, 2023, 06:44:01 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 05:39:43 PMMinus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.
I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
Like this ?
https://www.opticsplanet.com/combat-ready-1917-trench-knife.html?utm_source=cse&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=connexity&utm_term=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&cnxclid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&msclkid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&utm_content=opticsplanet
Not exactly. The one I've been looking for has more of a brass knuckles style handle.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 07:10:29 PMQuote from: flybynight on January 26, 2023, 06:44:01 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 05:39:43 PMMinus the grooves towards the bottom and the seat belt cutter, I'd probably pick up one of those for my collection. Aw hell, even with the grooves and belt cutter I'd still probably buy one if I ever found one in my AO for sale.
I still want one of those Model 1918 WW1 era trench knives with the knuckle duster handle. Legit WW1 era ones are insanely expensive, so I'd have to find a replica if I ever decide to get one.
Like this ?
https://www.opticsplanet.com/combat-ready-1917-trench-knife.html?utm_source=cse&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=connexity&utm_term=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&cnxclid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&msclkid=813f18b62cf719812a687b65318324d0&utm_content=opticsplanet
Not exactly. The one I've been looking for has more of a brass knuckles style handle.
Ya. Thats a WWI knife. But a poor looking replica. IMA sells originals. The 1918 is a WWII knife.
I thought the 1918 was a WW1 model ?
Maybe it was adopted in 1918, but not before the war ended.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 26, 2023, 09:52:47 PMI thought the 1918 was a WW1 model ?
Maybe it was adopted in 1918, but not before the war ended.
I stand corrected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_I_trench_knife
I had the chance to buy a 1917 some time ago for $150. I don't recall why I didn't.
Quote from: Moab on January 26, 2023, 11:32:21 PMI had the chance to buy a 1917 some time ago for $150. I don't recall why I didn't.
I had a similar experience but with a US Model 1917 Enfield WW1 sniper rifle (with the original scope and sling) instead of a 1917 trench knife.
In my case, I was new to guns and young and didn't know a whole lot about WW1 era guns (or any guns, for that matter). In my younger years, I'd probably have sold or traded it off for something stupid and only later realized just how valuable the rifle really was.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 12:13:45 AMQuote from: Moab on January 26, 2023, 11:32:21 PMI had the chance to buy a 1917 some time ago for $150. I don't recall why I didn't.
I had a similar experience but with a US Model 1917 Enfield WW1 sniper rifle (with the original scope and sling) instead of a 1917 trench knife.
In my case, I was new to guns and young and didn't know a whole lot about WW1 era guns (or any guns, for that matter). In my younger years, I'd probably have sold or traded it off for something stupid and only later realized just how valuable the rifle really was.
Before I moved to LA I passed on a VW camper bus for $2500. Outfitted with everything including stove and sink. Probably worth at least $30,000 now.
Nice. The grooves in the blade are a good way to collect DNA samples of the assailant. :smiley_knipoog:
-Blast
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Apache Revolver.
Knuckle dusters are a forbidden weapon in Germany, so you are not allowed to own one even with a weapon license.
Quote from: tirls on January 27, 2023, 09:01:55 AM(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Apache_revolver.jpg/1994px-Apache_revolver.jpg)
Apache Revolver.
Knuckle dusters are a forbidden weapon in Germany, so you are not allowed to own one even with a weapon license.
They aren't legal in alot of places im the US. ;)
Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 04:54:45 AMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 12:13:45 AMQuote from: Moab on January 26, 2023, 11:32:21 PMI had the chance to buy a 1917 some time ago for $150. I don't recall why I didn't.
I had a similar experience but with a US Model 1917 Enfield WW1 sniper rifle (with the original scope and sling) instead of a 1917 trench knife.
In my case, I was new to guns and young and didn't know a whole lot about WW1 era guns (or any guns, for that matter). In my younger years, I'd probably have sold or traded it off for something stupid and only later realized just how valuable the rifle really was.
Before I moved to LA I passed on a VW camper bus for $2500. Outfitted with everything including stove and sink. Probably worth at least $30,000 now.
Depending on the year, it could be worth a lot more than 30k.
I've seen some 60's model VW vans go for well north of 100k. It all depends on the year model and certain other features like how many windows it has.
Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 10:47:58 AMQuote from: tirls on January 27, 2023, 09:01:55 AM(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Apache_revolver.jpg/1994px-Apache_revolver.jpg)
Apache Revolver.
Knuckle dusters are a forbidden weapon in Germany, so you are not allowed to own one even with a weapon license.
They aren't legal in alot of places im the US. ;)
Brass knuckles are legal in Texas as of a couple years ago (2019 I think ?).
Conservative estimate. I had a '67 vw bug until a few years ago. Same condition an options as this.
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Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 11:24:51 AMConservative estimate. I had a '67 vw bug until a few years ago. Same condition an options as this.
Screenshot_20230127_092348_Edge.jpg
Nice looking Bug.
For some dumb reason, I've always wanted one of those VW Thing cars, but those are even harder to find in my AO than the vans.
Also, I can't drive a stick shift, so unless VW made one with an automatic transmission, I'd be screwed.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 11:24:51 AMConservative estimate. I had a '67 vw bug until a few years ago. Same condition an options as this.
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Nice looking Bug.
For some dumb reason, I've always wanted one of those VW Thing cars, but those are even harder to find in my AO than the vans.
Also, I can't drive a stick shift, so unless VW made one with an automatic transmission, I'd be screwed.
There was an auto trans for bugs. But they are very rare. I've only ever seen one for sale. And I've had bugs since I was a teenager. I would doubt there are any parts left for them. Unless mexico produced one. But they have not to my knowledge. Mexico continued making bugs for many years.
There may have been an auto super beetle. But I don't recall one. Those were later bugs mainly from the 70s.
The things are cool. I think those were based on Hitlers volkswagen for the military. At least in looks. He produced one during WWII.
Here we go again running a thread off its rails. Lol.
I think it's kind of to be expected a thread goes off the rails here nowadays, Moab. :smiley_crocodile:
Those knuckle dusters look interesting, but I can't help but wonder how badly they'd damage a users hand if used in a defensive scenario.
I've heard of some guys using brass knuckles to break windows in situations where like someone's trapped in a car after an accident or if they locked their keys in the car and have no other way to open the door (absolute last resort in that case).
I watched an episode of "Live PD" back before A&E cancelled it (that pissed me off since it was one of my favorite shows) and there was a bit where someone had locked their keys in their car along with their kid and they couldn't get the door open. One of the officers had what looked like a spring loaded center punch tool and cracked the window with the car owner's permission.
I wondered if brass knuckles would've worked in the same situation or if that would've just caused injury to whoever tried it.
I also wondered if my local Home Depot would have one of those center punch tools as well since I'm always looking for new stuff to add to my preps.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 01:13:15 PMI think it's kind of to be expected a thread goes off the rails here nowadays, Moab. :smiley_crocodile:
Those knuckle dusters look interesting, but I can't help but wonder how badly they'd damage a users hand if used in a defensive scenario.
I've heard of some guys using brass knuckles to break windows in situations where like someone's trapped in a car after an accident or if they locked their keys in the car and have no other way to open the door (absolute last resort in that case).
I watched an episode of "Live PD" back before A&E cancelled it (that pissed me off since it was one of my favorite shows) and there was a bit where someone had locked their keys in their car along with their kid and they couldn't get the door open. One of the officers had what looked like a spring loaded center punch tool and cracked the window with the car owner's permission.
I wondered if brass knuckles would've worked in the same situation or if that would've just caused injury to whoever tried it.
I also wondered if my local Home Depot would have one of those center punch tools as well since I'm always looking for new stuff to add to my preps.
I wondered about injury to the user as well, particularly with how far above the "knuckles" on these stick out compared to more "traditional" versions. I would think that they'd have a tendency to twist sideways upon any sort of heavy impact, which would increase the likelihood of injuring the user.
A few months ago I posted about the RESQME tool (https://smile.amazon.com/resqme-Original-Keychain-Escape-Black/dp/B000IE0EZO) that I had a chance to use to break a car window last fall. Worked really well and it's nice and discrete. Here's the post: https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?topic=1042.msg21306#msg21306
A center punch will break a car window.
https://www.harborfreight.com/spring-loaded-center-punch-621.html
But even cooler. A $3.99 bracelet that will do the same thing.
Wqzlel Bracelet car Window Breaker, Wristband with Tungsten Carbide Beads, car Emergency self-Rescue, Escape Tool, car Emergency Window Break Quick Escape Tempered Safety Glass Breaker https://a.co/d/hSjBr7I
Yeah, the center punch the officer on "Live PD" used worked really well. Even better than the inflatable wedge thing the fire department guys were using.
I sat there watching the scene unfold on TV and wondered, "Why didn't they just break the window to begin with instead of spending a half hour trying to wedge the door open ?".
Honestly, I'd rather just break my car window and pay for a new one than spend a long time trying numerous methods that ultimately end up not working. Of course, I also make damn sure my keys are in my pocket before I lock my doors on my truck.
https://youtu.be/gvVm-YOzwy8
I'm willing to bet I could probably make one of those bracelets myself with some rubberized cord and a tungsten bead.
Only hitch I can think of is finding a flat, grooved tungsten bead like that.
I wonder if Hobby Lobby would have something like that ?
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 04:29:47 PMI'm willing to bet I could probably make one of those bracelets myself with some rubberized cord and a tungsten bead.
Only hitch I can think of is finding a flat, grooved tungsten bead like that.
I wonder if Hobby Lobby would have something like that ?
You could probably find instructions online. My mother works at hobby lobby in washington. Lol. Im not even sure it has to be tungston. I wonder if a bic lighter wheel would work?
Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 04:49:29 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 04:29:47 PMI'm willing to bet I could probably make one of those bracelets myself with some rubberized cord and a tungsten bead.
Only hitch I can think of is finding a flat, grooved tungsten bead like that.
I wonder if Hobby Lobby would have something like that ?
You could probably find instructions online. My mother works at hobby lobby in washington. Lol. Im not even sure it has to be tungston. I wonder if a bic lighter wheel would work?
It might if it's heavy enough.
Maybe a piece of a spark plug might work as well ?
I know folks have broken windows with bits of spark plugs before, so maybe a bit of one on a rubberized cord might work just the same as the tungsten bead on the linked bracelet.
The other fun fact is you can use the headrest to break open a window from the inside. Pull the headrest off and use one of the two rods to break the window. I don't know if this was in the original design. But it works.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 05:05:12 PMQuote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 04:49:29 PMQuote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 04:29:47 PMI'm willing to bet I could probably make one of those bracelets myself with some rubberized cord and a tungsten bead.
Only hitch I can think of is finding a flat, grooved tungsten bead like that.
I wonder if Hobby Lobby would have something like that ?
You could probably find instructions online. My mother works at hobby lobby in washington. Lol. Im not even sure it has to be tungston. I wonder if a bic lighter wheel would work?
It might if it's heavy enough.
Maybe a piece of a spark plug might work as well ?
I know folks have broken windows with bits of spark plugs before, so maybe a bit of one on a rubberized cord might work just the same as the tungsten bead on the linked bracelet.
I don't think the weight is important. I haven't weighted it but it feels lighter than the elastic, it's quite small and light.
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Any hard pointy object that is able to concentrate the force onto one point should work.
Some milling tools have removable tungsten teeth that might work.
Probably the best maker of knuckles in the US. Been following this guy for a long time.
https://instagram.com/dickeyknuckles?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=