Survival knuckle duster.

Started by Moab, January 26, 2023, 05:11:11 PM

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12_Gauge_Chimp

I think it's kind of to be expected a thread goes off the rails here nowadays, Moab. :smiley_crocodile:

Those knuckle dusters look interesting, but I can't help but wonder how badly they'd damage a users hand if used in a defensive scenario.

I've heard of some guys using brass knuckles to break windows in situations where like someone's trapped in a car after an accident or if they locked their keys in the car and have no other way to open the door (absolute last resort in that case).

I watched an episode of "Live PD" back before A&E cancelled it (that pissed me off since it was one of my favorite shows) and there was a bit where someone had locked their keys in their car along with their kid and they couldn't get the door open. One of the officers had what looked like a spring loaded center punch tool and cracked the window with the car owner's permission.

I wondered if brass knuckles would've worked in the same situation or if that would've just caused injury to whoever tried it.

I also wondered if my local Home Depot would have one of those center punch tools as well since I'm always looking for new stuff to add to my preps.

EBuff75

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 01:13:15 PMI think it's kind of to be expected a thread goes off the rails here nowadays, Moab. :smiley_crocodile:

Those knuckle dusters look interesting, but I can't help but wonder how badly they'd damage a users hand if used in a defensive scenario.

I've heard of some guys using brass knuckles to break windows in situations where like someone's trapped in a car after an accident or if they locked their keys in the car and have no other way to open the door (absolute last resort in that case).

I watched an episode of "Live PD" back before A&E cancelled it (that pissed me off since it was one of my favorite shows) and there was a bit where someone had locked their keys in their car along with their kid and they couldn't get the door open. One of the officers had what looked like a spring loaded center punch tool and cracked the window with the car owner's permission.

I wondered if brass knuckles would've worked in the same situation or if that would've just caused injury to whoever tried it.

I also wondered if my local Home Depot would have one of those center punch tools as well since I'm always looking for new stuff to add to my preps.
I wondered about injury to the user as well, particularly with how far above the "knuckles" on these stick out compared to more "traditional" versions.  I would think that they'd have a tendency to twist sideways upon any sort of heavy impact, which would increase the likelihood of injuring the user. 

A few months ago I posted about the RESQME tool that I had a chance to use to break a car window last fall.  Worked really well and it's nice and discrete.  Here's the post:  https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?topic=1042.msg21306#msg21306 
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Moab

A center punch will break a car window.

https://www.harborfreight.com/spring-loaded-center-punch-621.html

But even cooler. A $3.99 bracelet that will do the same thing.

Wqzlel Bracelet car Window Breaker, Wristband with Tungsten Carbide Beads, car Emergency self-Rescue, Escape Tool, car Emergency Window Break Quick Escape Tempered Safety Glass Breaker https://a.co/d/hSjBr7I
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12_Gauge_Chimp

Yeah, the center punch the officer on "Live PD" used worked really well. Even better than the inflatable wedge thing the fire department guys were using.

I sat there watching the scene unfold on TV and wondered, "Why didn't they just break the window to begin with instead of spending a half hour trying to wedge the door open ?".

Honestly, I'd rather just break my car window and pay for a new one than spend a long time trying numerous methods that ultimately end up not working. Of course, I also make damn sure my keys are in my pocket before I lock my doors on my truck.

Moab

"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

12_Gauge_Chimp

I'm willing to bet I could probably make one of those bracelets myself with some rubberized cord and a tungsten bead.

Only hitch I can think of is finding a flat, grooved tungsten bead like that.

I wonder if Hobby Lobby would have something like that ?

Moab

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 04:29:47 PMI'm willing to bet I could probably make one of those bracelets myself with some rubberized cord and a tungsten bead.

Only hitch I can think of is finding a flat, grooved tungsten bead like that.

I wonder if Hobby Lobby would have something like that ?
You could probably find instructions online. My mother works at hobby lobby in washington. Lol. Im not even sure it has to be tungston. I wonder if a bic lighter wheel would work? 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

12_Gauge_Chimp

Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 04:29:47 PMI'm willing to bet I could probably make one of those bracelets myself with some rubberized cord and a tungsten bead.

Only hitch I can think of is finding a flat, grooved tungsten bead like that.

I wonder if Hobby Lobby would have something like that ?
You could probably find instructions online. My mother works at hobby lobby in washington. Lol. Im not even sure it has to be tungston. I wonder if a bic lighter wheel would work?

It might if it's heavy enough.

Maybe a piece of a spark plug might work as well ?

I know folks have broken windows with bits of spark plugs before, so maybe a bit of one on a rubberized cord might work just the same as the tungsten bead on the linked bracelet.

Moab

The other fun fact is you can use the headrest to break open a window from the inside. Pull the headrest off and use one of the two rods to break the window. I don't know if this was in the original design. But it works. 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

tirls

Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: Moab on January 27, 2023, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on January 27, 2023, 04:29:47 PMI'm willing to bet I could probably make one of those bracelets myself with some rubberized cord and a tungsten bead.

Only hitch I can think of is finding a flat, grooved tungsten bead like that.

I wonder if Hobby Lobby would have something like that ?
You could probably find instructions online. My mother works at hobby lobby in washington. Lol. Im not even sure it has to be tungston. I wonder if a bic lighter wheel would work?

It might if it's heavy enough.

Maybe a piece of a spark plug might work as well ?

I know folks have broken windows with bits of spark plugs before, so maybe a bit of one on a rubberized cord might work just the same as the tungsten bead on the linked bracelet.
I don't think the weight is important. I haven't weighted it but it feels lighter than the elastic, it's quite small and light. 

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Any hard pointy object that is able to concentrate the force onto one point should work.
Some milling tools have removable tungsten teeth that might work.


Moab

Probably the best maker of knuckles in the US. Been following this guy for a long time.

https://instagram.com/dickeyknuckles?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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