Siberia is on fire

[TACAIR]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/09/smoke-siberia-wildfires-reaches-north-pole-historic-first

Siberia burns every summer.   As do large parts of Alaska.  Hard to fight a fire that you cannot reach, and the whole 'mother nature' thing applies.

This time around , the fires have reached historic levels (<10M+ acres)

Worse, the smoke from raging forest fires in Siberia has reached the north pole for the first time in recorded history, as a Russian monitoring institute warned the blazes were worsening.

and

On Saturday, the US space agency Nasa said its satellite images showed wildfire smoke traveling "more than 3,000km (1,800 miles) from Yakutia to reach the north pole", calling it "a first in recorded history". It added that on 6 August most of Russia was covered in smoke.

Hard to say what the long term impact with be past the caterwauling from the Greenies.   This could block sunshine and  temporally reduce surface temps.  If that is the case, EU weather is in for a change....

I post this just to alert folks to possible weather effects going into Fall.

Planetary-wide smoke is a real issue, no matter if from forest fires or rank pollution from China/India, it has an effect.

[MPMalloy]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/09/smoke-siberia-wildfires-reaches-north-pole-historic-first

Siberia burns every summer.   As do large parts of Alaska.  Hard to fight a fire that you cannot reach, and the whole 'mother nature' thing applies.

This time around , the fires have reached historic levels (<10M+ acres)

Worse, the smoke from raging forest fires in Siberia has reached the north pole for the first time in recorded history, as a Russian monitoring institute warned the blazes were worsening.

and

On Saturday, the US space agency Nasa said its satellite images showed wildfire smoke traveling "more than 3,000km (1,800 miles) from Yakutia to reach the north pole", calling it "a first in recorded history". It added that on 6 August most of Russia was covered in smoke.

Hard to say what the long term impact with be past the caterwauling from the Greenies.   This could block sunshine and  temporally reduce surface temps.  If that is the case, EU weather is in for a change....

I post this just to alert folks to possible weather effects going into Fall.

Planetary-wide smoke is a real issue, no matter if from forest fires or rank pollution from China/India, it has an effect.

Tac:  What do you see as mitigation strategies?

[RoneKiln]

My understanding is it doesn't take a lot of ashfall from the smoke to significantly change how reflective snow is. So if the snow isn't as reflective, it absorbs more energy from sunlight and melts faster. Similar effect with dust from massive dust storms drifting to the arctic and Antarctic.

Quality air filters in the home can do a lot to mitigate impact of smoke and dust as the world continues to change and evolve.

[flybynight]

Yea I saw this last week, but forgot to post about it. For comparisons. There's more on fire just in  Siberia, than all of the other fires in the world.... combined.

Wonder how the weather will be in Kansas on the third day after ?


https://youtu.be/Ku_IseK3xTc

[MPMalloy]

Quality air filters in the home can do a lot to mitigate impact of smoke and dust as the world continues to change and evolve.

Did powered respirators ever become a thing?

ETA:  kind of

[Mr. E. Monkey]

Relevant?


Granted, I don't think (I hope not, at least) that the volume of ash and smoke is near the same level as was ejected by Mt. Tambora at that time, but if the impact is even in the same ballpark, we could be in for a rough ride.  Or, if it doesn't, but decreases albedo in the arctic, we could be in for an entirely different sort of rough ride.


Either way, it sounds like there's potential for some really some bad things on the way.  A good question might be what sort of indicators (of one or the other) might we see first?  Knowing which way this goes could definitely impact prepping strategies.

[sheddi]

Relevant?


Granted, I don't think (I hope not, at least) that the volume of ash and smoke is near the same level as was ejected by Mt. Tambora at that time, but if the impact is even in the same ballpark, we could be in for a rough ride.  Or, if it doesn't, but decreases albedo in the arctic, we could be in for an entirely different sort of rough ride.

That's what I came here to post, more or less. High-altitude dust could cause cooling but I guess the smoke won't get up to those levels of the atmosphere?

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Quality air filters in the home can do a lot to mitigate impact of smoke and dust as the world continues to change and evolve.

Did powered respirators ever become a thing?

ETA:  kind of

It wasn't a respirator, but there was a guy on Forged in Fire once that had something similar. It was like a personal air conditioner that consisted of a power unit and like a headband/visor thing that circulated the air around the guy's face.

I forget what it was called, but I wonder if something like that would be useful in keeping ash and other stuff away from a person's face.

Obviously it's not going to be as good as a full on respirator, but it may be an option.

[Mr. E. Monkey]

Relevant?


Granted, I don't think (I hope not, at least) that the volume of ash and smoke is near the same level as was ejected by Mt. Tambora at that time, but if the impact is even in the same ballpark, we could be in for a rough ride.  Or, if it doesn't, but decreases albedo in the arctic, we could be in for an entirely different sort of rough ride.

That's what I came here to post, more or less. High-altitude dust could cause cooling but I guess the smoke won't get up to those levels of the atmosphere?

So...more likely that it's going to increase warming, you figure?

[sheddi]

Relevant?


Granted, I don't think (I hope not, at least) that the volume of ash and smoke is near the same level as was ejected by Mt. Tambora at that time, but if the impact is even in the same ballpark, we could be in for a rough ride.  Or, if it doesn't, but decreases albedo in the arctic, we could be in for an entirely different sort of rough ride.

That's what I came here to post, more or less. High-altitude dust could cause cooling but I guess the smoke won't get up to those levels of the atmosphere?

So...more likely that it's going to increase warming, you figure?

That would be my guess but hey, what do I know!

Quality air filters in the home can do a lot to mitigate impact of smoke and dust as the world continues to change and evolve.

Did powered respirators ever become a thing?
ETA:  kind of

It wasn't a respirator, but there was a guy on Forged in Fire once that had something similar. It was like a personal air conditioner that consisted of a power unit and like a headband/visor thing that circulated the air around the guy's face.

I forget what it was called, but I wonder if something like that would be useful in keeping ash and other stuff away from a person's face.

Obviously it's not going to be as good as a full on respirator, but it may be an option.

PAPRs are pretty good things. We have used them at work since the mid-90s, at least (although I've not worn one personally since then). With NiCd batteries they would run for half a working day; hopefully the advances in battery technology over the past 25 years have increased the run time and decreased the weight of the belt pack.

[Lambykins]

Reading about Siberia and the fires there and watching some videos about it on youtube...
Anybody else ever watch Happy People?
Now I'm worried about the folks I watched in those documentaries.

[RoneKiln]

Relevant?


Granted, I don't think (I hope not, at least) that the volume of ash and smoke is near the same level as was ejected by Mt. Tambora at that time, but if the impact is even in the same ballpark, we could be in for a rough ride.  Or, if it doesn't, but decreases albedo in the arctic, we could be in for an entirely different sort of rough ride.

That's what I came here to post, more or less. High-altitude dust could cause cooling but I guess the smoke won't get up to those levels of the atmosphere?

So...more likely that it's going to increase warming, you figure?

Could also do both. Spark cooler weather the first year, then contribute to warmer weather in the long run.

If there was a feasible way to prove it one way or the other, and I were to gamble on it, I'd bet it's just going to add to warming.

[Mr. E. Monkey]

That makes sense.  Also, from what I have been able to read, it sounds like we are moving away from a solar minimum, into a period of increased activity, which I believe contributed to the cooling associated with Mt. Tambora.


A pause in warming/small cooling period followed by more warming sounds feasible to this monkey.