Is there any easy way to transfer ZS content over here? Or just copy and paste?
We should make an effort as a group to try to move some of the more valuable content to here.
Any ideas?
We can try to find our own best content and move it. But many members are gone. Some permenantly.
If ZS ever comes 'up' again, I think I got a way to mine it.
But it needs to come up...
ZS still unavailable?
So much for it staying up for archival purposes.
I actually have a .pdf copy of almost all of the "Bugging Out to Wal-Mart, Costco, Sams Club: No!" thread. I had created a downloadable version of it back in 2016 and I went back out to the thread last year just before the forum shut down and grabbed the newer content as well. I just need to merge them all and then I can post it.
Okay, here it is. Beware, it's a 7Mb file which is 535 pages long!
Zombie Squad - Bugging Out to Wal-Mart, Costco, Sams Club_ NO_2021.pdf
Old ZS link: https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017
Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20210614050003/https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210614050003/https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017)
Raptor gave me permission to repost his Katrina thread (I'd PDFed it back in 2018): https://ufozs.com/smf/index.php?topic=785.0
Duuuuude. I was looking for MJOTZY on ZS because there was lots of good info in the threads, and well, I found this:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php* (https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php*)
Anybody want to go catalog what we can still recover?
PS: MJOTZY (Mom's Journal of the Zombie Years) can be found here: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11759047/1/Journal-of-the-Zombie-Years
I don't have a lot of bookmarks saved, just these. If anyone would like, I can try to recreate some of them via the Wayback Machine.
ZS Bookmarks.png
For what it's worth, I've gotten permission from the archive.org ppl to pound their servers to pull it... I might set it up in a day or 3 to spider through...
I dont think zs will ever be back up online. I mean why would they? They've already shut it down. (Can you hear the anger in my voice?!) Whats in it for them? Nothing.
I'm sorry. I just have to vent for a second. I contributed so much to that forum. I'm never doing that again. Without saving or reposting my content to a site that I know won't go down. I never wanted anything in return. I just wanted someplace where my content could be seen by people. And hopefully help them.
To shut down that forum. Without even giving anyone the option of even buying it from them. Is so spiteful. And so full of hate.
I mean what did we do to them? Give our countless hours of effort for their benefit?
Rant off.
Sorry.
So how does mining work? You'll end up with each thread reposted on this forum?
Quote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 03:29:02 PMI dont think zs will ever be back up online. I mean why would they? They've already shut it down. (Can you hear the anger in my voice?!) Whats in it for them? Nothing.
I'm sorry. I just have to vent for a second. I contributed so much to that forum. I'm never doing that again. Without saving or reposting my content to a site that I know won't go down. I never wanted anything in return. I just wanted someplace where my content could be seen by people. And hopefully help them.
To shut down that forum. Without even giving anyone the option of even buying it from them. Is so spiteful. And so full of hate.
I mean what did we do to them? Give our countless hours of effort for their benefit?
Rant off.
Sorry.
So how does mining work? You'll end up with each thread reposted on this forum?
Just to put it out there... Raptor and I recently renewed the ufozs.com domain name. Paid in advance for ten years (ICANN maximum allowed). So while we can't guarantee "forever", we can say that our intentions are to keep this place going for at least the next decade. :smiley_coolpeace:
Quote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 03:29:02 PMI dont think zs will ever be back up online. I mean why would they? They've already shut it down. (Can you hear the anger in my voice?!) Whats in it for them? Nothing.
I'm sorry. I just have to vent for a second. I contributed so much to that forum. I'm never doing that again. Without saving or reposting my content to a site that I know won't go down. I never wanted anything in return. I just wanted someplace where my content could be seen by people. And hopefully help them.
To shut down that forum. Without even giving anyone the option of even buying it from them. Is so spiteful. And so full of hate.
I mean what did we do to them? Give our countless hours of effort for their benefit?
Rant off.
Sorry.
So how does mining work? You'll end up with each thread reposted on this forum?
Just to put it out there... Raptor and I recently renewed the ufozs.com domain name. Paid in advance for ten years (ICANN maximum allowed). So while we can't guarantee "forever", we can say that our intentions are to keep this place going for at least the next decade. :smiley_coolpeace:
I assumed u guys were good. Otherwise i would not be posting on here. :)
Who were the owners? Why the big mystery? And what was it that turned them off so much about the forum?
Quote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 04:06:51 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 03:29:02 PMI dont think zs will ever be back up online. I mean why would they? They've already shut it down. (Can you hear the anger in my voice?!) Whats in it for them? Nothing.
I'm sorry. I just have to vent for a second. I contributed so much to that forum. I'm never doing that again. Without saving or reposting my content to a site that I know won't go down. I never wanted anything in return. I just wanted someplace where my content could be seen by people. And hopefully help them.
To shut down that forum. Without even giving anyone the option of even buying it from them. Is so spiteful. And so full of hate.
I mean what did we do to them? Give our countless hours of effort for their benefit?
Rant off.
Sorry.
So how does mining work? You'll end up with each thread reposted on this forum?
Just to put it out there... Raptor and I recently renewed the ufozs.com domain name. Paid in advance for ten years (ICANN maximum allowed). So while we can't guarantee "forever", we can say that our intentions are to keep this place going for at least the next decade. :smiley_coolpeace:
I assumed u guys were good. Otherwise i would not be posting on here. :)
Who were the owners? Why the big mystery? And what was it that turned them off so much about the forum?
Sorry but, under the terms of a non-disclosure agreement I signed when I became an admin there I can't answer these kinds of questions. The agreement may not be
legally binding on me any longer (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I'm not a lawyer) but it's
morally and ethically binding on me because I gave my word.
Quote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 04:48:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 04:06:51 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 03:29:02 PMI dont think zs will ever be back up online. I mean why would they? They've already shut it down. (Can you hear the anger in my voice?!) Whats in it for them? Nothing.
I'm sorry. I just have to vent for a second. I contributed so much to that forum. I'm never doing that again. Without saving or reposting my content to a site that I know won't go down. I never wanted anything in return. I just wanted someplace where my content could be seen by people. And hopefully help them.
To shut down that forum. Without even giving anyone the option of even buying it from them. Is so spiteful. And so full of hate.
I mean what did we do to them? Give our countless hours of effort for their benefit?
Rant off.
Sorry.
So how does mining work? You'll end up with each thread reposted on this forum?
Just to put it out there... Raptor and I recently renewed the ufozs.com domain name. Paid in advance for ten years (ICANN maximum allowed). So while we can't guarantee "forever", we can say that our intentions are to keep this place going for at least the next decade. :smiley_coolpeace:
I assumed u guys were good. Otherwise i would not be posting on here. :)
Who were the owners? Why the big mystery? And what was it that turned them off so much about the forum?
Sorry but, under the terms of a non-disclosure agreement I signed when I became an admin there I can't answer these kinds of questions. The agreement may not be legally binding on me any longer (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I'm not a lawyer) but it's morally and ethically binding on me because I gave my word.
I understand. And respect your morals. It was just so weird over there how everything was such a big secret. By time i joined the original owners had long gone into hiding. And stopped participating in the forum. Which was even weirder given the success of the forum back then. And admins seemed to change daily. Somehow it kept the same membership of fairly open intelligent people.
But I can see why someone would not want their home address and phone number on any forum they owned.
Quote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 05:30:48 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 04:48:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 04:06:51 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 03:29:02 PMI dont think zs will ever be back up online. I mean why would they? They've already shut it down. (Can you hear the anger in my voice?!) Whats in it for them? Nothing.
I'm sorry. I just have to vent for a second. I contributed so much to that forum. I'm never doing that again. Without saving or reposting my content to a site that I know won't go down. I never wanted anything in return. I just wanted someplace where my content could be seen by people. And hopefully help them.
To shut down that forum. Without even giving anyone the option of even buying it from them. Is so spiteful. And so full of hate.
I mean what did we do to them? Give our countless hours of effort for their benefit?
Rant off.
Sorry.
So how does mining work? You'll end up with each thread reposted on this forum?
Just to put it out there... Raptor and I recently renewed the ufozs.com domain name. Paid in advance for ten years (ICANN maximum allowed). So while we can't guarantee "forever", we can say that our intentions are to keep this place going for at least the next decade. :smiley_coolpeace:
I assumed u guys were good. Otherwise i would not be posting on here. :)
Who were the owners? Why the big mystery? And what was it that turned them off so much about the forum?
Sorry but, under the terms of a non-disclosure agreement I signed when I became an admin there I can't answer these kinds of questions. The agreement may not be legally binding on me any longer (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I'm not a lawyer) but it's morally and ethically binding on me because I gave my word.
I understand. And respect your morals. It was just so weird over there how everything was such a big secret. By time i joined the original owners had long gone into hiding. And stopped participating in the forum. Which was even weirder given the success of the forum back then. And admins seemed to change daily. Somehow it kept the same membership of fairly open intelligent people.
But I can see why someone would not want their home address and phone number on any forum they owned.
Mine is freely posted, if you know how to search. We do not block the registration info of the site and that is my actual callsign, which can be checked with the FCC database.
Quote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 06:04:44 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 05:30:48 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 04:48:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 04:06:51 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 03:29:02 PMI dont think zs will ever be back up online. I mean why would they? They've already shut it down. (Can you hear the anger in my voice?!) Whats in it for them? Nothing.
I'm sorry. I just have to vent for a second. I contributed so much to that forum. I'm never doing that again. Without saving or reposting my content to a site that I know won't go down. I never wanted anything in return. I just wanted someplace where my content could be seen by people. And hopefully help them.
To shut down that forum. Without even giving anyone the option of even buying it from them. Is so spiteful. And so full of hate.
I mean what did we do to them? Give our countless hours of effort for their benefit?
Rant off.
Sorry.
So how does mining work? You'll end up with each thread reposted on this forum?
Just to put it out there... Raptor and I recently renewed the ufozs.com domain name. Paid in advance for ten years (ICANN maximum allowed). So while we can't guarantee "forever", we can say that our intentions are to keep this place going for at least the next decade. :smiley_coolpeace:
I assumed u guys were good. Otherwise i would not be posting on here. :)
Who were the owners? Why the big mystery? And what was it that turned them off so much about the forum?
Sorry but, under the terms of a non-disclosure agreement I signed when I became an admin there I can't answer these kinds of questions. The agreement may not be legally binding on me any longer (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I'm not a lawyer) but it's morally and ethically binding on me because I gave my word.
I understand. And respect your morals. It was just so weird over there how everything was such a big secret. By time i joined the original owners had long gone into hiding. And stopped participating in the forum. Which was even weirder given the success of the forum back then. And admins seemed to change daily. Somehow it kept the same membership of fairly open intelligent people.
But I can see why someone would not want their home address and phone number on any forum they owned.
Mine is freely posted, if you know how to search. We do not block the registration info of the site and that is my actual callsign, which can be checked with the FCC database.
I remember looking up there whois info. But iirc it was a company. And i never went any further than that. I could have. I own a PI firm. But I did contact them using an email i found somewhere and made an offer to buy the forum. But it was never replied to. So I stopped persuing it.
Thats what i dont get either. It had to have value right? I'm not an internet marketer. Beyond hiring someone to do our seo. And running a retail site with bigcommerce. I dont remember the traffic on zs specifically. But it had to be enough to generate a fair amount of ad revenue.
Why not sell it? Or at least give the memborship an opportunity to at least save the data?
I don't recall if there were ads or any known revenue from the site. Other than its potential value. But after everyone that contributed so much to it. It seems like a huge fuck you to the membership. Please excuse my French. But thats how I honestly feel. We were all there of our own free will. But to just shut it off. After the large amount of effort we out into it. Is just astounding.
Anyway. Stepping off my soapbox. My apologies for the rant.:)
Quote from: Moab on April 26, 2022, 11:24:16 AMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 06:04:44 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 05:30:48 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 04:48:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 04:06:51 PMQuote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 03:42:54 PMQuote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 03:29:02 PMI dont think zs will ever be back up online. I mean why would they? They've already shut it down. (Can you hear the anger in my voice?!) Whats in it for them? Nothing.
I'm sorry. I just have to vent for a second. I contributed so much to that forum. I'm never doing that again. Without saving or reposting my content to a site that I know won't go down. I never wanted anything in return. I just wanted someplace where my content could be seen by people. And hopefully help them.
To shut down that forum. Without even giving anyone the option of even buying it from them. Is so spiteful. And so full of hate.
I mean what did we do to them? Give our countless hours of effort for their benefit?
Rant off.
Sorry.
So how does mining work? You'll end up with each thread reposted on this forum?
Just to put it out there... Raptor and I recently renewed the ufozs.com domain name. Paid in advance for ten years (ICANN maximum allowed). So while we can't guarantee "forever", we can say that our intentions are to keep this place going for at least the next decade. :smiley_coolpeace:
I assumed u guys were good. Otherwise i would not be posting on here. :)
Who were the owners? Why the big mystery? And what was it that turned them off so much about the forum?
Sorry but, under the terms of a non-disclosure agreement I signed when I became an admin there I can't answer these kinds of questions. The agreement may not be legally binding on me any longer (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I'm not a lawyer) but it's morally and ethically binding on me because I gave my word.
I understand. And respect your morals. It was just so weird over there how everything was such a big secret. By time i joined the original owners had long gone into hiding. And stopped participating in the forum. Which was even weirder given the success of the forum back then. And admins seemed to change daily. Somehow it kept the same membership of fairly open intelligent people.
But I can see why someone would not want their home address and phone number on any forum they owned.
Mine is freely posted, if you know how to search. We do not block the registration info of the site and that is my actual callsign, which can be checked with the FCC database.
I remember looking up there whois info. But iirc it was a company. And i never went any further than that. I could have. I own a PI firm. But I did contact them using an email i found somewhere and made an offer to buy the forum. But it was never replied to. So I stopped persuing it.
Thats what i dont get either. It had to have value right? I'm not an internet marketer. Beyond hiring someone to do our seo. And running a retail site with bigcommerce. I dont remember the traffic on zs specifically. But it had to be enough to generate a fair amount of ad revenue.
Why not sell it? Or at least give the memborship an opportunity to at least save the data?
I don't recall if there were ads or any known revenue from the site. Other than its potential value. But after everyone that contributed so much to it. It seems like a huge fuck you to the membership. Please excuse my French. But thats how I honestly feel. We were all there of our own free will. But to just shut it off. After the large amount of effort we out into it. Is just astounding.
Anyway. Stepping off my soapbox. My apologies for the rant.:)
You were not the only one who offered to buy the rights. I made a pretty substantial offer myself, as did at least three other people I know of.
Quote from: EBuff75 on April 23, 2022, 06:20:48 PMOkay, here it is. Beware, it's a 7Mb file which is 535 pages long!
Zombie Squad - Bugging Out to Wal-Mart, Costco, Sams Club_ NO_2021.pdf
Old ZS link: https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017
Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20210614050003/https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210614050003/https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017)
^ This along with this V are two of the greatest internet threads of all time.
https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/
The original thread was mirrored as noted and it would be awesome if someone had it, predates the wayback machine as I recall as well.
Quote from: Ghost on April 26, 2022, 07:29:54 PMQuote from: EBuff75 on April 23, 2022, 06:20:48 PMOkay, here it is. Beware, it's a 7Mb file which is 535 pages long!
Zombie Squad - Bugging Out to Wal-Mart, Costco, Sams Club_ NO_2021.pdf
Old ZS link: https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017
Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20210614050003/https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210614050003/https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13017)
^ This along with this V are two of the greatest internet threads of all time.
https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/
The original thread was mirrored as noted and it would be awesome if someone had it, predates the wayback machine as I recall as well.
I love this. Its been along time since i read this. This was almost pre internet. Or at least that time that came when you couldnt bullshit everybody at the bar anymore. Because everyone got smart phones and could use google.
Those were good days too though. The stories you would hear were so creative. The endless round robins of the urban legend that would morph county by county. As it was told over and over. Lmao.
I had a good friend at that time that had so many great bar tales. One of those guys that could remember 500 good jokes verbatim. I somehow miss those days. Conversations flowed in a different way back then. Even if 75 percent of it was bullshit. Lol.
Quote from: SCBrian on April 23, 2022, 05:33:14 PMIf ZS ever comes 'up' again, I think I got a way to mine it.
But it needs to come up...
Was it just my imagination, or wasn't it back online for awhile after initial shutdown, and we were able to look old threads up for info? I could have sworn it was, because I have a laundry list of topics I bookmarked and was reading through a few not to long ago.
Quote from: NapalmMan67 on May 11, 2022, 04:22:26 PMQuote from: SCBrian on April 23, 2022, 05:33:14 PMIf ZS ever comes 'up' again, I think I got a way to mine it.
But it needs to come up...
Was it just my imagination, or wasn't it back online for awhile after initial shutdown, and we were able to look old threads up for info? I could have sworn it was, because I have a laundry list of topics I bookmarked and was reading through a few not to long ago.
It was for a little while, but went down and then came back up for a brief period (for like a day or two, I think) and then it went down and stayed down.
As far as I know, it's still down and likely will stay down for the foreseeable future. Certain folks wanted ZS dead for a long time and it would appear they finally got their wish.
Quote from: NapalmMan67 on May 11, 2022, 04:22:26 PMQuote from: SCBrian on April 23, 2022, 05:33:14 PMIf ZS ever comes 'up' again, I think I got a way to mine it.
But it needs to come up...
Was it just my imagination, or wasn't it back online for awhile after initial shutdown, and we were able to look old threads up for info? I could have sworn it was, because I have a laundry list of topics I bookmarked and was reading through a few not to long ago.
It was, but not for very long. If you have bookmarks, you might try pulling them on archive.org.
Quote from: NapalmMan67 on May 11, 2022, 04:22:26 PMWas it just my imagination, or wasn't it back online for awhile after initial shutdown, and we were able to look old threads up for info? I could have sworn it was, because I have a laundry list of topics I bookmarked and was reading through a few not to long ago.
Yeah, it was back up for about three months....from around mid-August to mid-November.
I realize it's been a while since this thread was last replied to, but has there been any progress on trying to copy from Archive.org most of the old forum? I've made a few gentle attempts myself, but most of the forum is only archived a page or two deep.
I'm assuming nothing has been heard from the owners of the ZS forum, otherwise someone would have published an archive.
Quote from: Psycobob on December 31, 2022, 09:01:25 PMI realize it's been a while since this thread was last replied to, but has there been any progress on trying to copy from Archive.org most of the old forum? I've made a few gentle attempts myself, but most of the forum is only archived a page or two deep.
I'm assuming nothing has been heard from the owners of the ZS forum, otherwise someone would have published an archive.
In their defense. Long distance charges are pretty expensive from Hell
Quote from: Psycobob on December 31, 2022, 09:01:25 PMI realize it's been a while since this thread was last replied to, but has there been any progress on trying to copy from Archive.org most of the old forum? I've made a few gentle attempts myself, but most of the forum is only archived a page or two deep.
I'm assuming nothing has been heard from the owners of the ZS forum, otherwise someone would have published an archive.
No, there hasn't been, and there probably won't be. This is due to copyright restrictions. ZS holds the full copyright for the old forums and, while I was the admin in charge of the old system, I'm not a member of the ZS board of directors, nor can I/we make use of the ZS name or logo. Individual posts/threads can of course be copied over by their original authors; I doubt ZS would want to engage in a protracted legal battle over that which they'd likely lose, but there's no way we could publish more than that here.
It is my understanding that the previous PTB were embarrassed by the site and deleted the database for the forum. I have no way confirming that but that is what i was told by a 3rd party.
A good prep lesson actually : never assume the source will always be available.
Quote from: Raptor on January 01, 2023, 09:40:09 AMIt is my understanding that the previous PTB were embarrassed by the site and deleted the database for the forum. I have no way confirming that but that is what i was told by a 3rd party.
A good prep lesson actually : never assume the source will always be available.
Are you saying they deleted the internet archive file? Is that a thing you can do?
Checking now.