This is a very old post from zs. That i did not want lost.
Having said that. Its more of a master list to cover all four seasons out in the outdoors. And yes i had pics of it posted to zs. But now that those f*ckers have killed it. Ill have to search those down. Forgive my saltiness today. I just discovered that you can't search zs anymore. Or see any of my post from the last decade or more.
I do own everything in that list. And it is stored in an Arcteryx 80l backpack. I have not weighed it recently. Id say the pack itself is around 65lbs? Which isnt to say i intend to hump that thing with my worn out old Marine back. We are also 3 people. So not all of it gets centered on one persons back. So between the other two people's packs and their personal items. They would have plenty of room to split up heavier items like the tent, radios, bats etc etc.
The first part of my bug out is either vehicular or boat. After that i would ditch various modules of it. For weight savings. And ditching things along the way that we might no longer need.
The impetus behind it is a long bug out basically. Which is what inch bags are about. And the hopes that one day you would find a suitable place to settle.
I live in Los Angeles. Right next to LAX. One of the largest terrorist targets in the US. Not to mention LA itself. Hopefully with enough warning we would be able to flee. Otherwise i suspect we would just be toast from the get go. We have had serious plans to move back to the PNW. But my wife had a massive heart attack and got a heart transplant. Shes better than ever now. But this bag was also tailored to that region as well. As within a year we will be in the pnw. And our bug out would be in the woods. Not the city.
I know many of us have different opinions on what we might face. Say a local disaster vs a PAW. I plan for a PAW. Or worse case scenario. So that i can adapt this equipment to anything along the spectrum between those two. A local disaster or a paw. You can always throw things away. But you cant necessarily find everything that might be missing from your equipment.
This list actually started 10 yrs ago(?). And it was bigger and heavier with alot of military gear. Ive since learned to buy once, cry once. And now its a mix of military and civilian gear. But all within a very strict light weight emphasis. Some things have taken years to find. As i am 6'3". Quality rain gear took forever. As civilian stuff is not possible size wise. And military gear is harder to find in my s>zes. Not to mention looking for things on sale at a discount.
I also have a strong ohilosophy that grey man is important. But not necessary if your carrying a very necessary long gun. You can dress grey man all day. But if you have a long arm your just as much a target as anyone else trying to fit in.
I also am a firm believer in camo. As a Marine in a sniper platoon i learned how to remain hidden in every environment outside of a city. And by hidden i mean you cant see the person until u stepped on them. Ive continued to use those skills as a private investigator. Having spent countless hours in rural settings. Its not hard. But most have no experience with remaining hidden. With the thousands heading in a rural direction. It does not matter what form of greyman attire you have. Those with the ability to deploy camo have the upper hand. By far.
So alot of my gear decisions hinged on multicam. As its good in most environments. And just about anything you need can be found in that pattern. Mixing patterns is problematic. As part of you is never going to fit in. And at least with multicam you can adapt it to fit your environment with the use of paint and foliage. I also have a very lightweight one piece ghillie suit. That i have personally used to remain hidden in many different environments. From very close ranges to photograph people in my line of work.
But i still have ultra light weight civilian hiking clothes for city and greyman like ventures into populated centers. But they take up less than a nalgene bottle. Talking simple pants and shirt.
The biggest sacrifice in weight is winter. That has to be planned for. And probably makes up a 25% addition in weight.
Anyway. I hope someone finds my list helpful. If nothing else its a good place to start to make sure your covering all your bases. And you can cull from there for your given situation.
What isn't shared with my other two family members. Is carried in an Arcteryx Khyber 80L multicam pack, Hill People Gear Multicam Recon chest bag, and a USGI multicam fanny pack.
See images attached.
INCH BAG LIST
FOOD:
*1lb Beef jerky*
6-9 Mountain House Meals – As many as will fit comfortably.
*24pk - Peach iced tea
/Fruit punch Crystal Lite
*2 bags - Garlic salt and Johnnys seasoning
*1lb Instant coffee
*Splenda
*Dried creamer
*Dried squid for bait and eating
*40pk - Trader Joe's Black Mango Tea
SHELTER:
Kelty Cosmic Down 0F sleeping bag
Poncho usgi
Klymit skeleton coyote x-frame pad or Big Agnes full size pad.
Marmot Trailight 2P tent
Emergency Thermal Blanket
COMMUNICATION:
CountyComm am/fm shortwave radio that runs 150 hours on one AA. http://countycomm.com/gp4light.html
2 - Midland GXT1050VP4 2 way camo frs/gmrs radios - headsets for both - runs off rechargable AA's.
2 emergency whistle Fox 40
HYGEINE/HEALTH/WELFARE:
Small Powder
Baking soda in film canister - as backup Toothpaste and acid med
(I have acid reflux - BADLY)
1 toothbrush
Bug spray deet
Bag of tobacco and rolling papers and as many packs of cigerettes as I can carry. (I know. Terrible. Trying to quit now.)
Nail clippers
5 Zip lock freezer bags
1 Roll toilet paper
1 Bottle camp soap Dr. Bronners
FIRE:
1 4x4 ziplock with dryer lint and vaseline balls
2 Packs Waterproof Matches
3 Bic Lighters
3 small fire steel - misch steel
1 large firesteel 5 x .5
1 zippo lighter
TOOLS:
Lexan full size fork and spoon
Czech Mess kit (Only outside container. Ditched the interior pot for weight savings.)
Wetstone http://www.ragweedforge.com/SharpeningCatalog.html
Handcuff key
Fishing gear - 50lb test braided line, hooks, small & medium diamond jigs, dried squid
12 speed hooks
1 Casio waterproof wristwatch - with compass, thermometer, etc.
Watch cover
1 pair of small EMT shears
1 Large sewing needle
12 AA NIMH rechargable batteries
Instapark 10 5w solar charger
21" Sven saw
Small compact binos
Duct tape - heavy weight and light weight for making bandages. (How much is to much? I have an inch of heavy weight wrapped around a credit card. And about 1/2 inch of lightweight wrapped around a credit card.)
Pad of paper waterproof
Carpenters pencil
Leatherman Multi-tool
P51 can opener
200ft 550 Paracord
300ft(?) 50lb test braided fishing line.
6 Plastic Zip Ties
6 Ranger Bands
1 Sharpie
TRAPPING:
12 - Professional grade snares.
3 - Conibear traps.
100ft Snare wire.
WEAPONS:
(Haven't decided on how much of each ammo to take exactly. It's going to depend on weight.)
Broken shell extractor
Gas port reamer
Glock 357 with holster 2 mags
AK47
6 AK mags
180rds 7.62
50 rounds 357
ESEE 5 survival knife/leather sheath
Mora OD Green with 4 inch blade. Kydex sheath
Tactical rifle sling
Headlamp Ultrafire UF-H2 B Head light - runs 11 hours on one AA.
Foam ear plugs
Gun cleaning kit
PACK & HARNESS:
HPG conceal carry chest pouch. (Contains handgun/ammo/gps/flashlight/maps)
Arcteryx Khyber 80 backpack
1 Multicam fanny pack as EDC (Contains multiples of fire/water/cordiage/fak/fishing kit/poncho/headlamp/emergency blanket/snare wire/mora knife)
Misc. Silnylon pouches to keep clothing and sleeping bag dry
WATER:
SS Nalgene with aluminum canteen cup
Platypus water bag 2L (This is only for backup. Only used in emergency should I lose other water containers.)
Camelback water 3L
Water Purification Tablets
Sawyer Mini
ELECTRICAL:
3 micro photon II lights
12 AA Rechargeable Batteries
1 Fenix PD 35 flashlight - doubles as weapon light
2 Extra bulbs for flashlights
Samsung Galaxy S8+ cellphone, 128gb micro SD card, and extra battery
CLOTHING:
1 pair Columbia hiking pants.
(Would gladly trade these for something lightweight in multicam.)
1 pair Columbia hiking shorts. (Would gladly trade these for something lightweight in multicam.)
1 synthetic Columbia hiking shirts.
(Would gladly trade these for something lightweight in multicam.)
1 Multicam Propper hunting shirt
1 Polar Fleece Columbia jacket (Would gladly trade this for something in multicam or camo.) Helikon multicam fleece jacket.
1 USGI jacket multicam goretex
1 Super lightweight down jacket with hood. This thing is a heater. Maybe weighs 8oz? Very packable.
Merrell Moab Ventilator boots or Danner sage green waterproof combat boots.
Mosquito hood
Synthetic baseball cap multicam.
1 fleece cap multicam.
2 Prescription sunglasses.
2 Prescription glasses.
1 Bottom and Top Merino wool base layer.
1 set of Gloves leather tactical shooting style
4 Pairs of Wool Socks
4 pairs of lightweight synthetic socks
1 multicam neck gaiter
1 OD Green shemagh (doubles as towel)
NAVIGATION:
2 Compasses - Suunto and Silva
3 button compasses stashed throughout chestrig, fannypack and pack.
Topographical Map
(The map should include;
• Daily Traveled Work Route; your normal route to work
• Primary Alternate Roads (paved); your alternate vehicle travel route
• Secondary Roads (gravel or dirt); a back-up vehicle travel route
• TOPO map MGRS/UTM for compass or GPS use (terrain and waterways); a planned foot travel route
• Train Tracks (bridges across the rivers); for alternate foot travel
• River and Streams (covert); for foot travel
• Water Crossing Plans(boat and bridge locations); alternate ways to cross the water
• Water Drainage Canals (easier foot travel); for foot travel
• Storm Water Drainage Systems (covert travel); for foot travel
• Bus and Taxi Schedules; alternate travel
• Cache and Hold-up Locations; your preplanned locations
• Possible Supply Locations; hardware, outdoor and gun stores)
Streetwise waterproof maps of Los Angeles, CA, OR & WA
Handheld GPS Garmin Etrex 20
BOOKS:
US ARMY Special Forces Medical Handbook (may ditch this for weight and just keep it on the thumbdrive)
WALLET:
Emergency cash (One to two grand.) Stashed throughout pack and self. Small bills.
Credit cards
ID
Insurance card
Important numbers - phones, addresses etc.
State and Federal licenses
Bank account numbers
Medication list
FIRST AID KIT:
1 quikclot or celox (i bought the celox it was cheaper)
1 Roll of Kerlix
1 credit card of 3 inch duct tape
1 israeli bandage
1 Cravat/Triangular bandage
1 small EMT-shears
2 burn-jel
6 month prescription meds
1 Bug Spray
2-5x5 Mole Skin
10 Cough Drops
Triple antibiotic cream
100 Benadryl
100 Imodium AD
100 800mg ibuprofen (for use and trade)
100+ prescription pain reliever (for use and trade)
600 antibiotics (for use and trade)
1 camp tweezers
100 pill metamucil
2 large safety pins
3 Suture kits
8GB THUMB DRIVE:
-copies of id, med records, prescriptions, photos, survival guides, vital documents, cash, check books, backup files, insurance documents, birth certificate, passport, etc. If we had to leave the house and never return, this is a starting place to get our business going again and access our financial accounts. The envelope on the outside is a card that has a list of other things to grab on the way out. This includes the backup hard drives. pictures, favorite web sites, email addresses, addresses, phone number list, and scanned copies of personal documents. Document copies included are; house deed, vehicle titles, gun receipts, birth certificate, ID etc..
Important Documents Inventory:
Birth Certificates
Drivers License/Permit
Weapons Registration
Hunting/Fishing License
Concealed Carry Permit
Car Registration
Car Insurance
Medical Insurance
Military ID/ID Tags
Credit Cards
Training Certificates
Bank Information
Marriage License
Marriage Certificate
Social Security Cards
Military Orders
In Case of Emergency Contacts
I've also begun collecting every kind of military or free information on the net (pdf's) concerning everything survival and self sustained living.
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What are you going to be carrying all this in? That is a TON of stuff. I mean you're looking at probably 80lbs? Which, I get it's an INCH bag and is probably going to be in the car as you drive along. But SHTF, and you have to strap that to your back and go for a little walkabout, you're gonna wish you were dead.
But let's face it, if it's of us are down to INCH bags, we are pretty well effed and finding a shopping cart or a bike freely abandoned for our procurement will probably be quite easy.
A whole pound of jerky?
I suppose that would nearly reduce toilet paper use. :o
Yup. I still like it. And I still believe an INCH bag has a valuable place for people in certain circumstances.
I need pics or it doesn't exist!!
I"ve noticed that as time went by. My GHB became more like an inch bag. I need to go through it again and par it down. Otherwise my GHB will be the reason I can't get home,
Quote from: flybynight on June 12, 2021, 11:06:16 PM
I"ve noticed that as time went by. My GHB became more like an inch bag. I need to go through it again and par it down. Otherwise my GHB will be the reason I can't get home,
Down here, we have 2 seasons. Summer, Summer, Summer, Winter... I try to take mine apart and go through it at the change of seasons (what some might call Spring and Fall). It allows me to trade out the clothes I have in it since Whats in there for summer wont work in winter, and vise-versa.
Quote from: Halfapint on June 07, 2021, 12:01:18 PM
What are you going to be carrying all this in? That is a TON of stuff. I mean you're looking at probably 80lbs? Which, I get it's an INCH bag and is probably going to be in the car as you drive along. But SHTF, and you have to strap that to your back and go for a little walkabout, you're gonna wish you were dead.
But let's face it, if it's of us are down to INCH bags, we are pretty well effed and finding a shopping cart or a bike freely abandoned for our procurement will probably be quite easy.
A few years back I needed a little apt size dolly. Back then I chose one near identical to this, a luggage carrier that holds 150 lbs. Thick sturdy no nonsense wheels.
(https://mobileimages.lowes.com/productimages/8c58c227-b88a-4984-93f6-5db6b2920ea5/16011812.png?size=pdhi)
Fast forward to today... carrying what I used to is too much.
3-4 weeks ago I got the idea to combine INCH bag with the dolly.
Affixed to it, front, back, sides:
- 1 large size walmart backpack luggage
- 3 good size krogers backpack coolers
- 2 walmart mini backpacks
- 2 5X8X2" first aid kit 'type' of bags
- other piece items
With a separate and worn backpack cooler for toilet and toilet hygiene items. Being quite light weight it doesn't cause discomfort.
Packed & tested down and up six flights of stairs. Tight, no shifting or tilting.
The things most likely to permanently wreck my home aren't apocalyptic in nature. In the unlikely event I have to flee, I will have a huge number of places I will be welcome in all over the western half of the US. The most likely events would be either house fire or flooding. The widest reaching is likely to be earthquake.
So I only keep a pretty normal 3 day weekend bag prepacked and hanging by the door. I use it all the time, so clothes are always getting cycled out of it.
The most unusual things in it are a backup hard drive with all my digital and legal life saved on it, and a few spare magazines for my pistol.
I still like seeing other people practice and experiment with INCH bags geared for more apocalyptic scenarios though, cause I know the world can change and I may someday decide an apocalyptic event has become more likely to drive me from my home and fleeing cross country.
Quote from: SCBrian on June 13, 2021, 08:31:41 AM
Quote from: flybynight on June 12, 2021, 11:06:16 PM
I"ve noticed that as time went by. My GHB became more like an inch bag. I need to go through it again and par it down. Otherwise my GHB will be the reason I can't get home,
Down here, we have 2 seasons. Summer, Summer, Summer, Winter... I try to take mine apart and go through it at the change of seasons (what some might call Spring and Fall). It allows me to trade out the clothes I have in it since Whats in there for summer wont work in winter, and vise-versa.
I do the same. For winter there are two bags in the truck. My wifes bag has an extra stove, extra knives, fire start kit and blankets. Her's is much lighter. But since it's 100 again today, the winter pack is still in the truck. And I still haven't gone through my pack . I justify my procastination since I have not sharpened my new replacement hachet
This is a very old post from zs. That i did not want lost.
Having said that. Its more of a master list to cover all four seasons out in the outdoors. And yes i had pics of it posted to zs. But now that those f*ckers have killed it. Ill have to search those down. Forgive my saltiness today. I just discovered that you can't search zs anymore. Or see any of my post from the last decade or more.
I do own everything in that list. And it is stored in an Arcteryx 80l backpack. I have not weighed it recently. Id say the pack itself is around 65lbs? Which isnt to say i intend to hump that thing with my worn out old Marine back. We are also 3 people. So not all of it gets centered on one persons back. So between the other two people's packs and their personal items. They would have plenty of room to split up heavier items like the tent, radios, bats etc etc.
The first part of my bug out is either vehicular or boat. After that i would ditch various modules of it. For weight savings. And ditching things along the way that we might no longer need.
The impetus behind it is a long bug out basically. Which is what inch bags are about. And the hopes that one day you would find a suitable place to settle.
I live in Los Angeles. Right next to LAX. One of the largest terrorist targets in the US. Not to mention LA itself. Hopefully with enough warning we would be able to flee. Otherwise i suspect we would just be toast from the get go. We have had serious plans to move back to the PNW. But my wife had a massive heart attack and got a heart transplant. Shes better than ever now. But this bag was also tailored to that region as well. As within a year we will be in the pnw. And our bug out would be in the woods. Not the city.
I know many of us have different opinions on what we might face. Say a local disaster vs a PAW. I plan for a PAW. Or worse case scenario. So that i can adapt this equipment to anything along the spectrum between those two. A local disaster or a paw. You can always throw things away. But you cant necessarily find everything that might be missing from your equipment.
This list actually started 10 yrs ago(?). And it was bigger and heavier with alot of military gear. Ive since learned to buy once, cry once. And now its a mix of military and civilian gear. But all within a very strict light weight emphasis. Some things have taken years to find. As i am 6'3". Quality rain gear took forever. As civilian stuff is not possible size wise. And military gear is harder to find in my s>zes. Not to mention looking for things on sale at a discount.
I also have a strong ohilosophy that grey man is important. But not necessary if your carrying a very necessary long gun. You can dress grey man all day. But if you have a long arm your just as much a target as anyone else trying to fit in.
I also am a firm believer in camo. As a Marine in a sniper platoon i learned how to remain hidden in every environment outside of a city. And by hidden i mean you cant see the person until u stepped on them. Ive continued to use those skills as a private investigator. Having spent countless hours in rural settings. Its not hard. But most have no experience with remaining hidden. With the thousands heading in a rural direction. It does not matter what form of greyman attire you have. Those with the ability to deploy camo have the upper hand. By far.
So alot of my gear decisions hinged on multicam. As its good in most environments. And just about anything you need can be found in that pattern. Mixing patterns is problematic. As part of you is never going to fit in. And at least with multicam you can adapt it to fit your environment with the use of paint and foliage. I also have a very lightweight one piece ghillie suit. That i have personally used to remain hidden in many different environments. From very close ranges to photograph people in my line of work.
But i still have ultra light weight civilian hiking clothes for city and greyman like ventures into populated centers. But they take up less than a nalgene bottle. Talking simple pants and shirt.
The biggest sacrifice in weight is winter. That has to be planned for. And probably makes up a 25% addition in weight.
Anyway. I hope someone finds my list helpful. If nothing else its a good place to start to make sure your covering all your bases. And you can cull from there for your given situation.