I don't know how recent this was. But these street takeovers happen almost nightly here in LA. Often people are seriously injured. And occasionally gun play breaks out.
Task forces have been created to deal with mob robberies. Where dozens of people meet up online, go to a retail store and basically walk out with as much merchandise as they can carry.
Mob rule has kind of taken over certain parts of the city.
But this is a new level. What did this guy think was gonna happen?
https://youtube.com/shorts/p3RRPPbna6c?si=dI4EsP9n0n3PcIlV
That guy should have ended up a Darwin Award recipient!
Quote from: Lambykins on September 28, 2023, 03:40:24 PMThat guy should have ended up a Darwin Award recipient!
Give it some time and he'll probably end up getting one soon.
Morons like that seem to never learn anything until it's too late.
Quote from: Lambykins on September 28, 2023, 03:40:24 PMThat guy should have ended up a Darwin Award recipient!
I think he did. The narrator says he was shot several times. And I think his slow reverse in a circle was not on purpose. I think that was his last defiant act.
There are many videos of street takeovers. It appears to be complete chaos. Cars spinning around in circles with crowds of people feet away. Unable to move fast enough to dodge an errant car. Many people have been run over or shot at. The last one I saw some guy was shooting into the spinning car in the middle. That was surrounded by a deep crowd of people. I forget how many people ended up shot.
A group of morons started doing street takeovers in Austin, but I haven't heard much of that since Austin PD started cracking down on them.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this sort of foolishness pops up more and more and in other cities. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some folks try that in smaller towns or cities.
There were a number of mob robberies in Philadelphia earlier this week. They used cover of peaceful police protests to make organized strikes against phone stores.
Quote from: Uomo Senza Nome on September 28, 2023, 09:24:38 PMThere were a number of mob robberies in Philadelphia earlier this week. They used cover of peaceful police protests to make organized strikes against phone stores.
The *rob mobs* seem to be happening in a lot of cities.
I wonder what the best strategy would be for store owners to stop that crap? I mean, you can't just shoot them, and the "lets find them through security video" strategy rarely results in arrests or return of merchandise.
Quote from: Lambykins on September 29, 2023, 11:37:26 AMQuote from: Uomo Senza Nome on September 28, 2023, 09:24:38 PMThere were a number of mob robberies in Philadelphia earlier this week. They used cover of peaceful police protests to make organized strikes against phone stores.
The *rob mobs* seem to be happening in a lot of cities.
I wonder what the best strategy would be for store owners to stop that crap? I mean, you can't just shoot them, and the "lets find them through security video" strategy rarely results in arrests or return of merchandise.
In LA they have had to form a task force just dedicated to this. Some of the larger heists were being done by specific groups of people. All wearing masks of course. So yes, identifying them is difficult.
Solutions?:
Pepper spray? Armed guards with pepper spray? Or pepper spray with dye in it? That later would identify robbers. And possibly ruin the merchandise from being able to be resold? Remember invisible ink? That was a real thing. They caught a guy in my unit in the military stealing out of wallets with it. After he pulled money out of a bait wallet filled with dye. They called a formation. The dye was a piwder that was activated by moisture. Like perspiration. And we watched as he rubbed the invisible purple dye all over his face. He was caught.
Locked area for employees. And locking front doors. I've seen video of robbers being locked in stores they attempted to rob. But this was in third world countries and required a higher level of bravery and cleverness. And they probably don't have the liability issues we do here.
Many highend jewelry stores have double doors. With a locked vestibule between them. So you have to be buzzed in thru the first set of doors. Then wait in the locked vestibule to be buzzed thru the second set of doors.
At some point our cities are going to look and operate like a maximum security prison.
I don't know if the place is still in business or not, but I once visited a pawn shop in Houston where you had to be buzzed into the shop.
I inquired about that to one of the employees (may have been the owner now that I think about it) and was told they did that because other businesses in the shopping center they were in had been robbed numerous times. So they started doing that and had several employees who carried a firearm in case someone tried to rob them.
https://youtu.be/Kb5As8k5L_M?si=MPO1ekjtABfFhSXR
Quote from: Moab on September 29, 2023, 12:03:28 PMQuote from: Lambykins on September 29, 2023, 11:37:26 AMQuote from: Uomo Senza Nome on September 28, 2023, 09:24:38 PMThere were a number of mob robberies in Philadelphia earlier this week. They used cover of peaceful police protests to make organized strikes against phone stores.
The *rob mobs* seem to be happening in a lot of cities.
I wonder what the best strategy would be for store owners to stop that crap? I mean, you can't just shoot them, and the "lets find them through security video" strategy rarely results in arrests or return of merchandise.
In LA they have had to form a task force just dedicated to this. Some of the larger heists were being done by specific groups of people. All wearing masks of course. So yes, identifying them is difficult.
Solutions?:
Pepper spray? Armed guards with pepper spray? Or pepper spray with dye in it? That later would identify robbers. And possibly ruin the merchandise from being able to be resold? Remember invisible ink? That was a real thing. They caught a guy in my unit in the military stealing out of wallets with it. After he pulled money out of a bait wallet filled with dye. They called a formation. The dye was a piwder that was activated by moisture. Like perspiration. And we watched as he rubbed the invisible purple dye all over his face. He was caught.
Locked area for employees. And locking front doors. I've seen video of robbers being locked in stores they attempted to rob. But this was in third world countries and required a higher level of bravery and cleverness. And they probably don't have the liability issues we do here.
Many highend jewelry stores have double doors. With a locked vestibule between them. So you have to be buzzed in thru the first set of doors. Then wait in the locked vestibule to be buzzed thru the second set of doors.
At some point our cities are going to look and operate like a maximum security prison.
I like the locked in approach, but I also saw a video about security fog machines the other day. Just hit a button and the room fills with fog, giving employees cover to escape to the back of the store and potentially disorienting would-be thieves. I'd like both together even better.
Then again, what I would like best is for the underlying systemic issues to be addressed by the powers that be which should significantly decrease many of the reasons behind these kinds of behaviors, but that's really just a pipe dream.
Settlements that aren't willing or able to protect their commerce die. That's been a historical truth for every settlement in history, from the smallest hamlets to the largest cities.
Quote I mean, you can't just shoot them
Why ? When court justice fails the citizens it's sworn to protect. ROL is absent. Thieves have been shot since guns were invented. As both punishment and deterrence.
Quote from: Moab on September 29, 2023, 12:03:28 PMQuote from: Lambykins on September 29, 2023, 11:37:26 AMQuote from: Uomo Senza Nome on September 28, 2023, 09:24:38 PMThere were a number of mob robberies in Philadelphia earlier this week. They used cover of peaceful police protests to make organized strikes against phone stores.
The *rob mobs* seem to be happening in a lot of cities.
I wonder what the best strategy would be for store owners to stop that crap? I mean, you can't just shoot them, and the "lets find them through security video" strategy rarely results in arrests or return of merchandise.
In LA they have had to form a task force just dedicated to this. Some of the larger heists were being done by specific groups of people. All wearing masks of course. So yes, identifying them is difficult.
Solutions?:
Pepper spray? Armed guards with pepper spray? Or pepper spray with dye in it? That later would identify robbers. And possibly ruin the merchandise from being able to be resold? Remember invisible ink? That was a real thing. They caught a guy in my unit in the military stealing out of wallets with it. After he pulled money out of a bait wallet filled with dye. They called a formation. The dye was a piwder that was activated by moisture. Like perspiration. And we watched as he rubbed the invisible purple dye all over his face. He was caught.
Locked area for employees. And locking front doors. I've seen video of robbers being locked in stores they attempted to rob. But this was in third world countries and required a higher level of bravery and cleverness. And they probably don't have the liability issues we do here.
Many highend jewelry stores have double doors. With a locked vestibule between them. So you have to be buzzed in thru the first set of doors. Then wait in the locked vestibule to be buzzed thru the second set of doors.
At some point our cities are going to look and operate like a maximum security prison.
Lots of these mobs are opportunistic, but the pre-planned and coordinated ones are the next-level scary ones.
A friend of mine is head of security at a hotel in Boston, and a few summers ago tuned into his scanner to listen to the reports from local police departments of what was basically a convoy of criminals coming to Newbury Street from outlying communities. They travelled in cars, and pretty systematically worked their way down the street that night, hitting all of the high end stores.
He could hear the smashing glass, and described them like a group of locusts coming down the street. His description was absolutely awful. I think what saved him was opening the lobby of his hotel to Boston police and making sure they had a place to rest and rehydrate.
Before the police arrived, he saw an attempted carjacking and intervened to help the woman whose car was being stolen. He did so only because he was armed, walking the hotel perimeter, and the assault was taking place directly in front of the hotel. When he drew on the two carjackers, they fled. They had already pulled her out of her car and were ready to run her over. They took her car and crashed it further down the block, he brought her to the lobby to recover and call a friend.
Truly scary stuff.
I've written about this before. But a car load of guys came into our town a couple minths ago. And broke out the front windows of 6 different businesses on our main street. And stole everything the6 could. One donut shop lost over 10k in cash. The town bought him out if all his donuts every morning for several weeks.
The daylight carjackings here last summer required an LAPD task force. And follow home robberies. Gangs had groups that would work this almost everyday.
https://youtu.be/48a-8oSfpok?si=aPAxrZsGApTYS0DK
Quote from: flybynight on September 30, 2023, 09:23:49 AMQuoteI mean, you can't just shoot them
Why ? When court justice fails the citizens it's sworn to protect. ROL is absent. Thieves have been shot since guns were invented. As both punishment and deterrence.
It feels like citizens are on there own in Los Angeles right now. The number of cops you see are way less. And the number of non responded to crimes are way up. As discussed above most of the crimes are committed well within any possible police response time as well.
I discussed last year why I felt it necessary to start carrying a knife here. Everywhere I go. Not that that is a great defensive weapon. But just as a last ditch item. They did start issuing ccws in LA for the first time in MANY decades. Which shocked everyone. But the need far surpassed any concerns about public safety from ccw's.
For several reasons I have not gotten one yet. But am about to install another lockbox in my vehicle for carrying one there. I used to have a lockbox in my Yukon. A simple 5 button combination. That when set right requires only two buttons be pushed at the same time to open.
There also seems to be an overwhelming influx of legal and illegal immigration. Of folks from third world countries with very different cultural views on what is and isn't acceptable violence/behavior. This cities proximity to the border and it being so easy to cross. Makes it a mecca for very desparate people stuck in very violent, very different places.
Simple traffic issues can turn into something violent in a second. And I think there is a large population here driving without any US license. If any license or driver training at all. Most traffic laws are ignored just about everywhere. When driving in an extremely unsafe manner. Most don't even know they are ignoring typical US driving practices. I was almost stabbed during one of these instances last year or the year before. Our DMVs are also notoriously easy to get licenses from. Overwhelmed and understaffed with subpar employees.
Quote from: Moab on September 30, 2023, 12:04:36 PMQuote from: flybynight on September 30, 2023, 09:23:49 AMQuoteI mean, you can't just shoot them
Why ? When court justice fails the citizens it's sworn to protect. ROL is absent. Thieves have been shot since guns were invented. As both punishment and deterrence.
There also seems to be an overwhelming influx of legal and illegal immigration. Of folks from third world countries with very different cultural views on what is and isn't acceptable violence/behavior. This cities proximity to the border and it being so easy to cross. Makes it a mecca for very desparate people stuck in very violent, very different places.
Simple traffic issues can turn into something violent in a second. And I think there is a large population here driving without any US license. If any license or driver training at all. Most traffic laws are ignored just about everywhere. When driving in an extremely unsafe manner. Most don't even know they are ignoring typical US driving practices. I was almost stabbed during one of these instances last year or the year before. Our DMVs are also notoriously easy to get licenses from. Overwhelmed and understaffed with subpar employees.
I agree 100%. I spent some time in the Dominican Republic on a relief trip. I loved my time there, and I loved the people. Driving, though...the drivers outside of the city were absolutely winging it. Even though our driver was a local, we were nearly run off the road a number of times.
A few cities near me have a growing immigrant population from the Dominican Republic, and the lack of awareness of typical driving practices combined with the slow police response is a pretty deadly combination. If you do get hit, there's a high probability that it will be by someone without a license, without insurance, and without the knowledge that they were in the wrong.
I am not trying to single out a particular group. I know that integrating into a new country is difficult. (I know that it's even more difficult when you don't really
want to integrate, but that's a different discussion.) I know that illegal immigrants are here from all over. I'm simply saying that the driving mannerisms a few towns over were exactly like the driving mannerisms I had to take two flights to experience in person.
QuoteThey did start issuing ccws in LA for the first time in MANY decades. Which shocked everyone. But the need far surpassed any concerns about public safety from ccw's.
Pointless now. You can't carry anywhere with the new laws.
QuoteThere also seems to be an overwhelming influx of legal and illegal immigration. Of folks from third world countries with very different cultural views on what is and isn't acceptable violence/behavior.
Are they coming from central Africa? The overwhelming numbers I see committing the crimes on video are black. We have a had a few central Africans appear here lately from Niger. They seem to be fleeing the revolt by going through the open border with Mexico.
QuoteThe number of cops you see are way less. And the number of non responded to crimes are way up. As discussed above most of the crimes are committed well within any possible police response time as well.
Well of course. San Fransisco is short 25%, LA is short 15%, Alameda was so short they offered a
bonus of $75,000 on top of $110K a year salary to sign up with them and still didn't make their numbers. Some police in Oakland make $500K-$600K a year with overtime from working 80 hours a week in what is essentially a war zone and they still can't hire enough people. Only 10% of their police actually live in Oakland.
The police will only respond to a call if they can. Many times they will not be able to because none are available.
Personally I think anyone would be nuts to sign up to be police these days, especially in California. The media and your civic leaders all hate you. Everything is now expected to be done with 20/20 hindsight. California repealed part of qualified immunity so you can get sued for doing your job.
I am glad in many ways that the Black Lives Matter group succeeded in gutting the police. I just feel they didn't go far enough. It's unfortunate that their actions directly resulted in the opposite outcomes for their desired goals of protecting black lives and civil rights. Many more black people have died from lack of police enforcement than were killed by the police in this century. If the police were gone completely than there would zero deaths from police and the rest would work itself out after a few years after people relearn how to live with each other and that the repercussions for their actions can be permanent. No need for police and courts and expensive legal systems.
I live in a state with very liberal self defense laws and some of the best gun laws in the country.
Quote from: Uomo Senza Nome on September 30, 2023, 04:03:52 PMQuoteThey did start issuing ccws in LA for the first time in MANY decades. Which shocked everyone. But the need far surpassed any concerns about public safety from ccw's.
Pointless now. You can't carry anywhere with the new laws.
QuoteThere also seems to be an overwhelming influx of legal and illegal immigration. Of folks from third world countries with very different cultural views on what is and isn't acceptable violence/behavior.
Are they coming from central Africa? The overwhelming numbers I see committing the crimes on video are black. We have a had a few central Africans appear here lately from Niger. They seem to be fleeing the revolt by going through the open border with Mexico.
QuoteThe number of cops you see are way less. And the number of non responded to crimes are way up. As discussed above most of the crimes are committed well within any possible police response time as well.
Well of course. San Fransisco is short 25%, LA is short 15%, Alameda was so short they offered a bonus of $75,000 on top of $110K a year salary to sign up with them and still didn't make their numbers. Some police in Oakland make $500K-$600K a year with overtime from working 80 hours a week in what is essentially a war zone and they still can't hire enough people. Only 10% of their police actually live in Oakland.
The police will only respond to a call if they can. Many times they will not be able to because none are available.
Personally I think anyone would be nuts to sign up to be police these days, especially in California. The media and your civic leaders all hate you. Everything is now expected to be done with 20/20 hindsight. California repealed part of qualified immunity so you can get sued for doing your job.
I am glad in many ways that the Black Lives Matter group succeeded in gutting the police. I just feel they didn't go far enough. It's unfortunate that their actions directly resulted in the opposite outcomes for their desired goals of protecting black lives and civil rights. Many more black people have died from lack of police enforcement than were killed by the police in this century. If the police were gone completely than there would zero deaths from police and the rest would work itself out after a few years after people relearn how to live with each other and that the repercussions for their actions can be permanent. No need for police and courts and expensive legal systems.
I live in a state with very liberal self defense laws and some of the best gun laws in the country.
I'm hopeful that the ccw laws in CA will be struck down with the mag ban, assault weapon ban and firearm list. But I'm even more hopeful I won't live here by then.
I think there are immigrants coming here from all over the world now. As the border is wide open. Although it always has been. But the vast majority are from the south of us. Where life is cheap. And violence and driving norms are very different. It's largely this population in LA that ignores traffic laws, participates in street takeovers and is involved in a large percentage of the violence. Not to mention the almost free reign of the drug cartels. There are probably no statistics on this. And I am talking in generalities. I fully admit. But you routinely get confronted by people who are angry at you and looking to fight. When they think they have the right of way. But legally they don't. They just seem to have no understanding of basic traffic laws. And an overwhelming attitude towards violence
It's just something that is just glaring after living here for 29 yrs. There were always certain parts of town you stayed away from. But by and large you were left to feel fairly safe. But now, it seems like no matter where you are there are angry violent types. A much more aggressive attitude. Less patience. And frankly more fear. I think I've mentioned I no longer shop at our local grocery store. They've had to hire armed personnel to roam the store. But the pay is so low even the store employees act like they are on work release from the local prison. And this is where the average rents are $5000-$6000 per month.
The police in our town used to be overstaffed, well equipped, and quick to respond. Now I rarely see them. I know there is a shortage and pay has been increased. But there are far richer communities south of us. That pay much more. And I think the job has gotten so thankless that many don't want it. Unless your getting gold rush money. Which I don't blame them for.
Not to mention, who would want to live here? No matter how much you were making. I can not tell you how inhospitable it has gotten. I used to feel safe in our small isolated beach town. Granted two miles away you would not want to be walking after dark. But now I would question anyone walking in the dark on our main thoroughfares.
QuoteBut I'm even more hopeful I won't live here by then.
Wherever you go, remember what led to this juncture in the road. Don't bring the same ideas with you when you go somewhere else or you won't be welcome there either.
Quote from: Uomo Senza Nome on October 01, 2023, 08:14:40 PMQuoteBut I'm even more hopeful I won't live here by then.
Wherever you go, remember what led to this juncture in the road. Don't bring the same ideas with you when you go somewhere else or you won't be welcome there either.
What does that mean?
It means don't bring the things, actions or attitudes that you are running from with you and make where you are moving like where you're from. They have commiefornicated Colorado. Denver and Colorado springs are hot heds of progressivism, over shadowing the rest of the state that is solidly conservative.
This is going too political, keep on topic please.
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Quote from: Zed hunter on October 03, 2023, 10:14:24 AMIt means don't bring the things, actions or attitudes that you are running from with you and make where you are moving like where you're from. They have commiefornicated Colorado. Denver and Colorado springs are hot heds of progressivism, over shadowing the rest of the state that is solidly conservative.
What about what I said - said I wasn't conservative? Lol. I think everything I was saying was conservative. I could go deeper. But I fear my views would label me a tin foil hat wearer. Lol.
I think there is equal measure fear of anyone moving "from" California. As there is fear of people who stay here.
California's economy is larger than most countries. It is huge. It is the size of 3 or 4 large western states. The vast majority of it is rural and mountainous.
There are only three small areas that control most of the state politically. Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Diego. And San Diego is conservative. Leaving you LA and SF which is maybe 1/100th or less of the state. A vast section of Californians (40-45%) hate the way California is run. There is a huge contigent in Northern California that are fighting to secede from the rest of the state. And it is the vast majority of those that move - that hate how CA is run.
Its not those that move out of CA that you have to fear. Its those that stay.
Not to mention, I am not from here. And have never liked it. But I hate it when the rest of America blames all citizens of CA for its problems. Alot of my pro gun folks frequently say something like - "If you don't like it in CA. Vote differently?!". You don't think a huge swath of us always do?
Most of the people in CA that vote "like California" are generally three groups controlled by one party. The entertainment industry, the tech industry and those the party has let move here and subsidize with $800+ a month of free income and free medical care. Yes. If you are homeless or otherwise indigent you get at least $800 of free aid a month. And people wonder why the homeless problem is so bad here. And why hundreds if thousands flock to our southern border.
The other two groups tech and entertainment are a cult. If you have any hope of working in either you better tow the party line. Or you won't work. I've worked in entertainment for years. And entertainment related companies. It is the least open minded group of people I have ever experienced.
If those brainwashed idiots moved into my town I would be worried too. But I think the vast majority of those moving out are moving for the right reasons - freedom from suppression.
It's not about conservative/ progressive. It's about the idea that people should take responsibility for their own lives. Politics gets in the way of that but it isn't always clear cut and it isn't so much about politics as it is about attitudes. There is no finger pointed at you here.
Typically the more that a state tries to "help people" the more damage they do in making people dependent upon the state for a depressing, minimalist type existence. Some places do it a lot more than others. If people never lift themselves out of poverty on their own then they began to take "shortcuts" and "easy" ways of doing things that are mostly illegal in order to "improve" their lives. This, most often in the end, has the opposite effect. The effects tend to be multi-generational.
People that work hard to improve their lives tend to become protective of what they perceived they have gained and achieved. I have personally seen hundreds of people come to this country with nothing but the shirt on their backs and build successful businesses and nice lives for themselves, with a quality of life that they could never have had in their home country. Typically they tend to be most successful in places where the state doesn't give them much of anything and they either sink or swim. Their support systems tend to be more family and faith oriented.
I've also seen people that come up with every excuse under the sun about why they can't make it. It's always either "someone else's fault" or the "system is against them". The answer is never to work harder, smarter or make better decisions. They need the state to prop them up, often because it always has.
My bad. I'll stop ranting now
Quote from: Uomo Senza Nome on October 03, 2023, 01:13:44 PMIt's not about conservative/ progressive. It's about the idea that people should take responsibility for their own lives. Politics gets in the way of that but it isn't always clear cut and it isn't so much about politics as it is about attitudes. There is no finger pointed at you here.
Typically the more that a state tries to "help people" the more damage they do in making people dependent upon the state for a depressing, minimalist type existence. Some places do it a lot more than others. If people never lift themselves out of poverty on their own then they began to take "shortcuts" and "easy" ways of doing things that are mostly illegal in order to "improve" their lives. This, most often in the end, has the opposite effect. The effects tend to be multi-generational.
People that work hard to improve their lives tend to become protective of what they perceived they have gained and achieved. I have personally seen hundreds of people come to this country with nothing but the shirt on their backs and build successful businesses and nice lives for themselves, with a quality of life that they could never have had in their home country. Typically they tend to be most successful in places where the state doesn't give them much of anything and they either sink or swim. Their support systems tend to be more family and faith oriented.
I've also seen people that come up with every excuse under the sun about why they can't make it. It's always either "someone else's fault" or the "system is against them". The answer is never to work harder, smarter or make better decisions. They need the state to prop them up, often because it always has.
Agreed. Completely.
Quote from: Zed hunter on October 04, 2023, 11:59:47 AMMy bad. I'll stop ranting now
He said "politics". Not ranting. If we stop ranting we won't have anything to say. ;)
Quote from: Zed hunter on October 03, 2023, 10:14:24 AMIt means don't bring the things, actions or attitudes that you are running from with you and make where you are moving like where you're from. They have commiefornicated Colorado. Denver and Colorado springs are hot heds of progressivism, over shadowing the rest of the state that is solidly conservative.
I agree with you. That isn't something I would do. And why I have not liked it here since I moved. I moved here at 30 from rural Washington state. And nothing has gotten better just worse.
So anyway. Away from the topic of politics and back to street takeovers.
If I already mentioned this in this thread my apologies. I was watching a news piece last week about two teenagers. One was 16. They stole 4 cars in one day. And then videotaped themselves running over people riding bikes with the stolen cars. One guy they ran over was 78. He survived. One died that was a retired Sheriff. They ran over several people. And the police got ahold of the cellphone they recorded it all on.
They can be heard on the video laughing and urging each other on. When arrested one boasted that he was in the juvenile system and would be out in 30 days. The next day the judge trasferred the case to adult court.
But not once in this news piece or in any interview did anyone ask where the parents were.
And I think that is true of these street takeovers and other crimes. Where are the parents?
Everyone has the right to have children. But we have to do a better job of educating children - period. Many of these school districts are little more than holding facilities. With armed guards, police, metal detectors and searches. With kids that are completely out of control.
But just as important. We need to educate young people about raising children. It seems like this revolving door of ill raised children raising more ill raised children. Because they simply don't know any better. As their parents were ill raised children as well.
getting back on topic .... street take overs...
The reason mobs can do a street take over and why stores are leaving areas due to rampant store theft is simply because the bad players can get away with it.
This did not happen at least to this extent a decade ago or even 5 years ago. There has and always will be theft, robberies and crime. That said until there are consequences sufficient to keep crime in check the problem will continue to grow.
These consequences must come from the citizens to be effective. The way forward is clear, the question is whether the will to make changes is there.
Keep you head on a swivel things are likely to get a lot more spicy out there until they improve.
QuoteThis did not happen at least to this extent a decade ago or even 5 years ago. There has and always will be theft, robberies and crime. That said until there are consequences sufficient to keep crime in check the problem will continue to grow.
I disagree. It has been going on longer than five years. Although it is getting worse.
In 2015 the City of Baltimore allowed looters to run rampant with the explicit support of the mayor. This happened several times, resulting in nearly every pharmacy in the city being looted as well as a number of stores.
In Minneapolis looting has gone mostly unopposed for nearly two decades.
In places like San Francisco the cracks started appearing about five years ago. Nothing was done then. So now they have what they have.
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/mob-robbery-sf-civic-center-women-20-attackers-12321481.php
New York 2017
https://nypost.com/2017/08/23/flash-mob-robbers-are-nearly-unstoppable/
I think we all can agree the violence and looting has been going on far to long.
And I don't believe allowing that to flourish helps anyones cause or predicament.
Neither does the idea of defunding the police. The police need more training. And help frankly.
As do those communities adversely effected by poverty and violence.
All I know is whatever we are doing? It's not working.
This is an interesting conversation about what Blackrock/State Street/Vanguard are doing to our ability to own a home and participate in our society. These three companies (Which are actually owned by each other and essentially are one company. Control 80% of the S&P.) will soon own over 60% of single family homes in the US. The average cost of a home in the US went from 200k to 400k in the last two years. Our children may never own a home.
These three companies also finance the WEF or World Economic Forum. Who's stated mission is that "everyone will own nothing but everyone will be happy".
After watching this I thought maybe our young, out of control people, are the canaries in the coal mine? Big changes in our world are afoot. And only 17% of young people are proud to be American.
Without a home you are forever a renting transient. Not nearly as connected to your community if you owned a home. And without home equity to say invest in a business or education or other means of improving your lot in life.
Maybe there is some proof to their experience? And maybe this is part of why they don't feel part of our society? And are lashing out.
https://youtu.be/UuCLfImW0hI?si=45YIvW1_i76B9McY
Ok so Vanguard is a company that is made up of mutual funds. They own about 80K homes in the US out of the 140M homes in the US. The problem with their home ownership is that they use it to manipulate the market to drive up prices and make "profit".