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Offline Johan

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Need help finding a mount that works..
« on: August 02, 2021, 12:43:57 AM »
-Need advice which mount to use, and I am hoping the Hive Mind can help me...

I have a Ruger Mini 14, (it's a 580 series I got a license for back in 2007), on which want to mount a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6 x24 AR-BDC with a Vortex Switchview Throw Lever ( I believe it's the SV-4).

Ordinary rings in the proprietary "Ruger attachment points" don't give me anywhere near enough eye relief for a proper sight picture with that scope and I have been unable to find any cantilever mount that attaches to Rugers "proprietary attachment points"
(my "Google fu" is probably weak, so if anyone can find such a mount please tell me.)

I have bought a picatinny rail that attaches to the "Ruger attachment points", a GG&G "Mini 14 Scope Mounting Rail Mil-Std-1913 Rail
It extends a little bit forward and gives me a few extra cm of eye relief so ordinary rings might work, but they'd have to be pretty narrow, with the forward ring almost touching the "box" where the sight adjacent knobs sit, and it's still borderline (I don't have any picatinny rings yet, so I just loosely mounted the picatinny rail and put the scope on top to measure)

So I was thinking to use a cantilever mount on the picatinny rail to get the scope a bit further forward and give me a bit more margin and work better in various shooting positions.

And I want to keep the scope as low as possible, I figure 25.5mm (1 inch) between the top of the rail and the centerline of the scope should be enough to have some clearance for the throw lever, but the cantilevers all seem to be higher than that..

-So, can anyone help me find a really low cantilever mount? (preferably
one that doesn't cost an arm and a leg). 

Or do you have any other ideas or suggestions?
(Going AR or AK is not an option here in Sweden, I was lucky  to get the Mini14 before they were banned)

Thank you!!
« Last Edit: August 02, 2021, 12:58:39 AM by Johan »
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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2021, 12:05:27 PM »
I've tried to post a link for ya to check out, but the forum keeps saying it's spam and to enable java, no idea why :tickedoff: :tickedoff:...

But the mount I was talking about is the RAMP30 Team Warne 30mm Tactical.

It looks like this...


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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2021, 02:11:11 PM »
Accuracy Systems makes an extended pic rail for the Mini. The longer 7.25" model is $89.99. I don't know if they ship outside of the USA.

https://www.accuracystore.com/index.php#!/New-Forward-Extending-Scope-Rails/p/67857047/category=19947040





« Last Edit: August 02, 2021, 02:17:01 PM by RickOShea »

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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2021, 02:46:32 PM »
I assume this is the mount you use now
https://www.gggaz.com/ruger-mini-30-scope-mounts-and-mini-14.html

And not this mount ( I have this mount in the past but only with a red dot sight and found it unable to maintin a reliable zero)
https://www.gggaz.com/mini-14-scope-mount-silver.html

In addition to the one posted by RickOShea I have seen but not used these.
https://www.ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/Scope-Base.php

http://ultimak.com/m4.htm

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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2021, 03:45:27 PM »
A picatinny or weaver base in the standard location combined with a low profile cantilever mount may be the ticket.  Finding one that sits as low as possible would be key.  The Aero Precision ones sit pretty low, but there may be a brand that sits even lower:

https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/ultralight-30mm-spr-scope-mount

Notice how it pushes the whole scope forward as compared to where the standard Ruger rings would.  The downside is there isn't much room to slide it forward and backward in the mount itself.

A more affordable option may be to sell the scope you have an buy a scope that fits the stock scope mounts better.  The Strike Eagles can be tough to mount on some rifles for sure, due to their measurements.

Good luck!
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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2021, 05:37:37 PM »
Accuracy Systems makes an extended pic rail for the Mini. The longer 7.25" model is $89.99. I don't know if they ship outside of the USA.

https://www.accuracystore.com/index.php#!/New-Forward-Extending-Scope-Rails/p/67857047/category=19947040







If they don't ship outside the US then I'd be willing to get it for you and forward it.  Maybe even hand delivered.   :smiley_blink:

No, not by me, by my sister-in-law or my brother-in-law, or maybe my niece.  My SIL is a Swede (her and my BIL are moving there when he retires this year) and my niece is in school in Vasterhaninge.  I could let them bring it, or send it directly to you.
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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2021, 05:39:47 PM »
I've tried to post a link for ya to check out, but the forum keeps saying it's spam and to enable java, no idea why :tickedoff: :tickedoff:...
It was because you were still a "newbie" and all newbie posts get spam filtered by two different services.
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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2021, 11:00:39 PM »
A picatinny or weaver base in the standard location combined with a low profile cantilever mount may be the ticket.  Finding one that sits as low as possible would be key.  The Aero Precision ones sit pretty low, but there may be a brand that sits even lower:

https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/ultralight-30mm-spr-scope-mount

Notice how it pushes the whole scope forward as compared to where the standard Ruger rings would.  The downside is there isn't much room to slide it forward and backward in the mount itself.

A more affordable option may be to sell the scope you have an buy a scope that fits the stock scope mounts better.  The Strike Eagles can be tough to mount on some rifles for sure, due to their measurements.

Good luck!

Pete beat me to it. I have an aeroprecision mount with a strike eagle on an AR pistol. I'm quite happy with it.

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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2021, 04:44:30 PM »
Thanks for all the replys guys!!!

The Aero Precision cantilever is not low enough for my purposes with the center 1.5 inches over the rail. (it seems pretty good and normal for an AR where the top of the stock is almost as high as the rail, but the Mini 14 stock is way lower, especially as the adapter to use picatinny rails also builds some height)


So, Accuracy Systems extended pic rail for the Mini. The longer 7.25" model for $89.99 looks like the best option so far..

If I can't order it myself when I am back from my holidays I'd be real grateful if you would send it to me NT2C..👍😊

(If no one can find a real low cantilever mount that's about 1 inch  high from the rails to the center of the hole, but  that seems to be a unicorn..😟)

Thanks  again!!!
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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2021, 08:13:59 PM »
Thanks for all the replys guys!!!

The Aero Precision cantilever is not low enough for my purposes with the center 1.5 inches over the rail. (it seems pretty good and normal for an AR where the top of the stock is almost as high as the rail, but the Mini 14 stock is way lower, especially as the adapter to use picatinny rails also builds some height)


So, Accuracy Systems extended pic rail for the Mini. The longer 7.25" model for $89.99 looks like the best option so far..

If I can't order it myself when I am back from my holidays I'd be real grateful if you would send it to me NT2C..👍😊

(If no one can find a real low cantilever mount that's about 1 inch  high from the rails to the center of the hole, but  that seems to be a unicorn..😟)

Thanks  again!!!
Johan

Enjoy your holiday and let me know when/if I should order it.
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Re: Need help finding a mount that works..
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2021, 12:45:59 AM »
Thanks a lot NT2C!!!
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