Hammock comparisons & questions?

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Moab

I picked up this tarp for $12.61 on the recommendation of Majorhavoc. And am trying to decide which hammock and bug net to pair it with. 

Wise Owl Outfitters Hammock Tarp, Hammock Tent - Rain Tarp for Camping Hammock - Camping Gear Must Haves w/Easy Set Up Including Tent Stakes and Carry Bag https://a.co/d/0iTylah

It is 11x9 and weighs 2lbs. And is made of ripstop waterproof nylon. 


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These are the three low cost/large size hammocks with bug nets that I am comparing. But feel free to post more. I'm open to suggestions.

1) The first one is rated to 772lbs and is 114.2 x 55 inch. Weighs 1.93 lbs and is made if 210T Parachute Nylon. It does not have guy lines for the bug net. 

2) The second ine is rated to 500lbs and is 106"L x 55"W. Weighs 2.8 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon.  And does have guy lines for the bug net.

3) The third one is rated to 500lbs and is 118"L x 79"W. Weighs 2.65 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon. And does have guy lines for the bug net. 

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1) 

Covacure Camping Hammock - Lightweight Double Hammock, Hold Up to 772lbs, Portable Hammocks for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Camping, Backpacking, Travel, Backyard, Beach(Black) https://a.co/d/e3odgaU

$27.99

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2)

Sunyear Camping Hammock, Portable Double Hammock with Net, 2 Person Hammock Tent with 2 * 10ft Straps, Best for Outdoor Hiking Survival Travel https://a.co/d/1vum1eI

$49.99

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3)

Grassman Camping Hammock Mosquito Net, Portable Hammock with Net Single or Double, Hammock Tent for Travel Camping, Camping Accessories for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Backpacking, Backyard, Beach https://a.co/d/j3a8MRn

$26.99

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My use for this is as a first time hammock camper. I am large 6'3" 250lbs. So I have chosen mostly double hammocks. I don't want to spend alot of money. I have never invested in hammocks as the price has always been prohibitive. For around $50 for a full set up of hammock, bug net and tarp makes it very doable. Even if its just a backup sleep system. But my main goal is to save weight.

My current set up is tent 5lbs, 10x10 tarp 2lbs, usgi bivy 2lbs(?). Which is an initial 9lbs. But tent and tarp only is 7lbs. And tarp and bivy only is 4lbs.

The hammocks are 2-2.65 lbs. The tarp is 2lbs. So for 4-4.5 lbs I would compare this to my tarp/bivy combo that currently weights 4lbs. Difference being you're off the ground. I am not including insulation as the tarp/bivy requires a matress and the hammock would require an insulating bottom quilt of some kind.

Price difference is quite a bit when you consider my current tarp was $65 and this ine us $12(!). The bivys are expensive now. I think close to $80? So $145 vs $42. That's quite a savings.

If you were to compare the tent/tarp to the hammock set up it would be 7lbs vs 4.5lbs. And $210 vs $42. That's a savings of 2.5lbs and $168. Rareoy do you save weight and save money. 

My only misgiving in this situation is giving up the full enclosure of a tent for the open tarp/hammock set up. There are fully enclosed hammocks. But they are more like $100 for these cheap ones. 

I think the hammocks insulative bottom layer could be acheived with extra clothing you already carry i.e. - down jacket, rain jacket etc. But maybe I am incorrect about that? 

My questions are as follows:

1) Which hammock should I choose? All seem well within the correct weight and size range. But the 772lb capacity one does not have guy lines for the bug net. How crucial are the guy lines? I kind of like the open-ness. The 3rd one is at the top of my list for price, size and weight. And it has guy lines in the bug net. 

2) What is the best solution for an underquilt layer? I have a 0F down sleeping bag. 

Second, can the hammock be used for a ground layer? Say if you were comparing the hammock to the tarp/bivy set up? If you couldn't find two trees to hang the hammock - could you use the hammock as a ground cloth? Much like the bivy can be used for? 

Lastly, would an inflatable mattress work as an underquilt in a hammock!? What us a cheap but effective bottom insulation layer for a hammock? 

3) What am I not asking or considering that I should be?

@majorhavoc


"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

majorhavoc

Having no experience with hammock camping, the only advice I can offer is regarding your question about an inflatable mattress as an underquilt in a hammock.  Are you talking about a true underquilt slung underneath the hammock, or are you thinking of using the mattress as an insulating layer between you and the hammock?  An inflatable mattress could work as something between you and the hammock as long as it's the insulated or encapsulated open cell foam (e.g Thermarest) variety.   

But if you're talking about an insulating layer slung underneath the hammock, I think an underquilt needs to fit pretty snuggly or else airflow will get between the quilt and the bottom of the hammock.  In which case you'll be dealing with convective heat loss all night long.  I don't think an inflatable mattress, which is designed to lay flat when inflated, would make a very good underquilt.
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flybynight

Quote from: Moab on January 17, 2024, 07:28:23 PMI picked up this tarp for $12.61 on the recommendation of Majorhavoc. And am trying to decide which hammock and bug net to pair it with.
Wise Owl Outfitters Hammock Tarp, Hammock Tent - Rain Tarp for Camping Hammock - Camping Gear Must Haves w/Easy Set Up Including Tent Stakes and Carry Bag https://a.co/d/0iTylah
It is 11x9 and weighs 2lbs. And is made of ripstop waterproof nylon.
You cannot view this attachment.
These are the three low cost/large size hammocks with bug nets that I am comparing. But feel free to post more. I'm open to suggestions.
1) The first one is rated to 772lbs and is 114.2 x 55 inch. Weighs 1.93 lbs and is made if 210T Parachute Nylon. It does not have guy lines for the bug net.
2) The second ine is rated to 500lbs and is 106"L x 55"W. Weighs 2.8 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon.  And does have guy lines for the bug net.
3) The third one is rated to 500lbs and is 118"L x 79"W. Weighs 2.65 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon. And does have guy lines for the bug net.
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1)
Covacure Camping Hammock - Lightweight Double Hammock, Hold Up to 772lbs, Portable Hammocks for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Camping, Backpacking, Travel, Backyard, Beach(Black) https://a.co/d/e3odgaU
$27.99
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2)
Sunyear Camping Hammock, Portable Double Hammock with Net, 2 Person Hammock Tent with 2 * 10ft Straps, Best for Outdoor Hiking Survival Travel https://a.co/d/1vum1eI
$49.99
You cannot view this attachment.
3)
Grassman Camping Hammock Mosquito Net, Portable Hammock with Net Single or Double, Hammock Tent for Travel Camping, Camping Accessories for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Backpacking, Backyard, Beach https://a.co/d/j3a8MRn
$26.99
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My use for this is as a first time hammock camper. I am large 6'3" 250lbs. So I have chosen mostly double hammocks. I don't want to spend alot of money. I have never invested in hammocks as the price has always been prohibitive. For around $50 for a full set up of hammock, bug net and tarp makes it very doable. Even if its just a backup sleep system. But my main goal is to save weight.
My current set up is tent 5lbs, 10x10 tarp 2lbs, usgi bivy 2lbs(?). Which is an initial 9lbs. But tent and tarp only is 7lbs. And tarp and bivy only is 4lbs.
The hammocks are 2-2.65 lbs. The tarp is 2lbs. So for 4-4.5 lbs I would compare this to my tarp/bivy combo that currently weights 4lbs. Difference being you're off the ground. I am not including insulation as the tarp/bivy requires a matress and the hammock would require an insulating bottom quilt of some kind.
Price difference is quite a bit when you consider my current tarp was $65 and this ine us $12(!). The bivys are expensive now. I think close to $80? So $145 vs $42. That's quite a savings.
If you were to compare the tent/tarp to the hammock set up it would be 7lbs vs 4.5lbs. And $210 vs $42. That's a savings of 2.5lbs and $168. Rareoy do you save weight and save money.
My only misgiving in this situation is giving up the full enclosure of a tent for the open tarp/hammock set up. There are fully enclosed hammocks. But they are more like $100 for these cheap ones.
I think the hammocks insulative bottom layer could be acheived with extra clothing you already carry i.e. - down jacket, rain jacket etc. But maybe I am incorrect about that?
My questions are as follows:
1) Which hammock should I choose? All seem well within the correct weight and size range. But the 772lb capacity one does not have guy lines for the bug net. How crucial are the guy lines? I kind of like the open-ness. The 3rd one is at the top of my list for price, size and weight. And it has guy lines in the bug net.
2) What is the best solution for an underquilt layer? I have a 0F down sleeping bag.
Second, can the hammock be used for a ground layer? Say if you were comparing the hammock to the tarp/bivy set up? If you couldn't find two trees to hang the hammock - could you use the hammock as a ground cloth? Much like the bivy can be used for?
Lastly, would an inflatable mattress work as an underquilt in a hammock!? What us a cheap but effective bottom insulation layer for a hammock?
3) What am I not asking or considering that I should be?
@majorhavoc


https://youtu.be/Uginr22r0zs?si=BsYYX9XepGz81k-6



https://youtu.be/UjHgV_8bN7A?si=UnxngTjt87vHsQvY


https://youtu.be/vdSCa4RR9Gw?si=e67H9eBQ15rRt7pM

https://hammockgear.com/news/how-to-set-up-a-hammock-for-camping/?gad_source=2&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtaOtBhCwARIsAN_x-3KY5EmmIfPwF-Pa91paS9R2L3HA4ivmux6XafKbMiLBv3cVGNhQtJgaAkRLEALw_wcB


I have the  Covacure Camping Hammock. It has not seen hard use. Maybe 4 times. Seems to be fine. I know there are better ( expensive)   hammocks out there , but I didn't want to spend more money on something I might not like. ( And I'm a cheap bastard).  I made an underquilt out of a old bedquilt and  cheap sylon type tarp by attaching the tarp side edges to quilt edges with grommets and putting  paracord through this.  I also have the 55 ga. bags to stuff, but have not tried this myself. 



"Hey idiot, you should feel your pulse, not see it."  Echo 83

Moab

Quote from: flybynight on January 18, 2024, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: Moab on January 17, 2024, 07:28:23 PMI picked up this tarp for $12.61 on the recommendation of Majorhavoc. And am trying to decide which hammock and bug net to pair it with.
Wise Owl Outfitters Hammock Tarp, Hammock Tent - Rain Tarp for Camping Hammock - Camping Gear Must Haves w/Easy Set Up Including Tent Stakes and Carry Bag https://a.co/d/0iTylah
It is 11x9 and weighs 2lbs. And is made of ripstop waterproof nylon.
You cannot view this attachment.
These are the three low cost/large size hammocks with bug nets that I am comparing. But feel free to post more. I'm open to suggestions.
1) The first one is rated to 772lbs and is 114.2 x 55 inch. Weighs 1.93 lbs and is made if 210T Parachute Nylon. It does not have guy lines for the bug net.
2) The second ine is rated to 500lbs and is 106"L x 55"W. Weighs 2.8 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon.  And does have guy lines for the bug net.
3) The third one is rated to 500lbs and is 118"L x 79"W. Weighs 2.65 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon. And does have guy lines for the bug net.
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1)
Covacure Camping Hammock - Lightweight Double Hammock, Hold Up to 772lbs, Portable Hammocks for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Camping, Backpacking, Travel, Backyard, Beach(Black) https://a.co/d/e3odgaU
$27.99
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2)
Sunyear Camping Hammock, Portable Double Hammock with Net, 2 Person Hammock Tent with 2 * 10ft Straps, Best for Outdoor Hiking Survival Travel https://a.co/d/1vum1eI
$49.99
You cannot view this attachment.
3)
Grassman Camping Hammock Mosquito Net, Portable Hammock with Net Single or Double, Hammock Tent for Travel Camping, Camping Accessories for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Backpacking, Backyard, Beach https://a.co/d/j3a8MRn
$26.99
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My use for this is as a first time hammock camper. I am large 6'3" 250lbs. So I have chosen mostly double hammocks. I don't want to spend alot of money. I have never invested in hammocks as the price has always been prohibitive. For around $50 for a full set up of hammock, bug net and tarp makes it very doable. Even if its just a backup sleep system. But my main goal is to save weight.
My current set up is tent 5lbs, 10x10 tarp 2lbs, usgi bivy 2lbs(?). Which is an initial 9lbs. But tent and tarp only is 7lbs. And tarp and bivy only is 4lbs.
The hammocks are 2-2.65 lbs. The tarp is 2lbs. So for 4-4.5 lbs I would compare this to my tarp/bivy combo that currently weights 4lbs. Difference being you're off the ground. I am not including insulation as the tarp/bivy requires a matress and the hammock would require an insulating bottom quilt of some kind.
Price difference is quite a bit when you consider my current tarp was $65 and this ine us $12(!). The bivys are expensive now. I think close to $80? So $145 vs $42. That's quite a savings.
If you were to compare the tent/tarp to the hammock set up it would be 7lbs vs 4.5lbs. And $210 vs $42. That's a savings of 2.5lbs and $168. Rareoy do you save weight and save money.
My only misgiving in this situation is giving up the full enclosure of a tent for the open tarp/hammock set up. There are fully enclosed hammocks. But they are more like $100 for these cheap ones.
I think the hammocks insulative bottom layer could be acheived with extra clothing you already carry i.e. - down jacket, rain jacket etc. But maybe I am incorrect about that?
My questions are as follows:
1) Which hammock should I choose? All seem well within the correct weight and size range. But the 772lb capacity one does not have guy lines for the bug net. How crucial are the guy lines? I kind of like the open-ness. The 3rd one is at the top of my list for price, size and weight. And it has guy lines in the bug net.
2) What is the best solution for an underquilt layer? I have a 0F down sleeping bag.
Second, can the hammock be used for a ground layer? Say if you were comparing the hammock to the tarp/bivy set up? If you couldn't find two trees to hang the hammock - could you use the hammock as a ground cloth? Much like the bivy can be used for?
Lastly, would an inflatable mattress work as an underquilt in a hammock!? What us a cheap but effective bottom insulation layer for a hammock?
3) What am I not asking or considering that I should be?
@majorhavoc


https://youtu.be/Uginr22r0zs?si=BsYYX9XepGz81k-6



https://youtu.be/UjHgV_8bN7A?si=UnxngTjt87vHsQvY


https://youtu.be/vdSCa4RR9Gw?si=e67H9eBQ15rRt7pM

https://hammockgear.com/news/how-to-set-up-a-hammock-for-camping/?gad_source=2&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtaOtBhCwARIsAN_x-3KY5EmmIfPwF-Pa91paS9R2L3HA4ivmux6XafKbMiLBv3cVGNhQtJgaAkRLEALw_wcB


I have the  Covacure Camping Hammock. It has not seen hard use. Maybe 4 times. Seems to be fine. I know there are better ( expensive)  hammocks out there , but I didn't want to spend more money on something I might not like. ( And I'm a cheap bastard).  I made an underquilt out of a old bedquilt and  cheap sylon type tarp by attaching the tarp side edges to quilt edges with grommets and putting  paracord through this.  I also have the 55 ga. bags to stuff, but have not tried this myself.




What is the Covacure fabric like? And how big does the hammock seem? Like would a 6'3" 250 dude fit and feel safe? 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

12_Gauge_Chimp

It's times like this I wish MegaWoodsWalker was still around.

Also, every time I think of buying a hammock, my brain plays that scene from "Any Which Way You Can" where Clyde the Orangutan tries to climb into a hammock and falls on his ass. Which is exactly what would happen if I tried to get into one. :smiley_crocodile:

flybynight

Quote from: Moab on January 18, 2024, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: flybynight on January 18, 2024, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: Moab on January 17, 2024, 07:28:23 PMI picked up this tarp for $12.61 on the recommendation of Majorhavoc. And am trying to decide which hammock and bug net to pair it with.
Wise Owl Outfitters Hammock Tarp, Hammock Tent - Rain Tarp for Camping Hammock - Camping Gear Must Haves w/Easy Set Up Including Tent Stakes and Carry Bag https://a.co/d/0iTylah
It is 11x9 and weighs 2lbs. And is made of ripstop waterproof nylon.
You cannot view this attachment.
These are the three low cost/large size hammocks with bug nets that I am comparing. But feel free to post more. I'm open to suggestions.
1) The first one is rated to 772lbs and is 114.2 x 55 inch. Weighs 1.93 lbs and is made if 210T Parachute Nylon. It does not have guy lines for the bug net.
2) The second ine is rated to 500lbs and is 106"L x 55"W. Weighs 2.8 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon.  And does have guy lines for the bug net.
3) The third one is rated to 500lbs and is 118"L x 79"W. Weighs 2.65 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon. And does have guy lines for the bug net.
********************************************************
1)
Covacure Camping Hammock - Lightweight Double Hammock, Hold Up to 772lbs, Portable Hammocks for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Camping, Backpacking, Travel, Backyard, Beach(Black) https://a.co/d/e3odgaU
$27.99
You cannot view this attachment.
2)
Sunyear Camping Hammock, Portable Double Hammock with Net, 2 Person Hammock Tent with 2 * 10ft Straps, Best for Outdoor Hiking Survival Travel https://a.co/d/1vum1eI
$49.99
You cannot view this attachment.
3)
Grassman Camping Hammock Mosquito Net, Portable Hammock with Net Single or Double, Hammock Tent for Travel Camping, Camping Accessories for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Backpacking, Backyard, Beach https://a.co/d/j3a8MRn
$26.99
You cannot view this attachment.
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My use for this is as a first time hammock camper. I am large 6'3" 250lbs. So I have chosen mostly double hammocks. I don't want to spend alot of money. I have never invested in hammocks as the price has always been prohibitive. For around $50 for a full set up of hammock, bug net and tarp makes it very doable. Even if its just a backup sleep system. But my main goal is to save weight.
My current set up is tent 5lbs, 10x10 tarp 2lbs, usgi bivy 2lbs(?). Which is an initial 9lbs. But tent and tarp only is 7lbs. And tarp and bivy only is 4lbs.
The hammocks are 2-2.65 lbs. The tarp is 2lbs. So for 4-4.5 lbs I would compare this to my tarp/bivy combo that currently weights 4lbs. Difference being you're off the ground. I am not including insulation as the tarp/bivy requires a matress and the hammock would require an insulating bottom quilt of some kind.
Price difference is quite a bit when you consider my current tarp was $65 and this ine us $12(!). The bivys are expensive now. I think close to $80? So $145 vs $42. That's quite a savings.
If you were to compare the tent/tarp to the hammock set up it would be 7lbs vs 4.5lbs. And $210 vs $42. That's a savings of 2.5lbs and $168. Rareoy do you save weight and save money.
My only misgiving in this situation is giving up the full enclosure of a tent for the open tarp/hammock set up. There are fully enclosed hammocks. But they are more like $100 for these cheap ones.
I think the hammocks insulative bottom layer could be acheived with extra clothing you already carry i.e. - down jacket, rain jacket etc. But maybe I am incorrect about that?
My questions are as follows:
1) Which hammock should I choose? All seem well within the correct weight and size range. But the 772lb capacity one does not have guy lines for the bug net. How crucial are the guy lines? I kind of like the open-ness. The 3rd one is at the top of my list for price, size and weight. And it has guy lines in the bug net.
2) What is the best solution for an underquilt layer? I have a 0F down sleeping bag.
Second, can the hammock be used for a ground layer? Say if you were comparing the hammock to the tarp/bivy set up? If you couldn't find two trees to hang the hammock - could you use the hammock as a ground cloth? Much like the bivy can be used for?
Lastly, would an inflatable mattress work as an underquilt in a hammock!? What us a cheap but effective bottom insulation layer for a hammock?
3) What am I not asking or considering that I should be?
@majorhavoc


https://youtu.be/Uginr22r0zs?si=BsYYX9XepGz81k-6



https://youtu.be/UjHgV_8bN7A?si=UnxngTjt87vHsQvY


https://youtu.be/vdSCa4RR9Gw?si=e67H9eBQ15rRt7pM

https://hammockgear.com/news/how-to-set-up-a-hammock-for-camping/?gad_source=2&gclid=Cj0KCQiAtaOtBhCwARIsAN_x-3KY5EmmIfPwF-Pa91paS9R2L3HA4ivmux6XafKbMiLBv3cVGNhQtJgaAkRLEALw_wcB


I have the  Covacure Camping Hammock. It has not seen hard use. Maybe 4 times. Seems to be fine. I know there are better ( expensive)  hammocks out there , but I didn't want to spend more money on something I might not like. ( And I'm a cheap bastard).  I made an underquilt out of a old bedquilt and  cheap sylon type tarp by attaching the tarp side edges to quilt edges with grommets and putting  paracord through this.  I also have the 55 ga. bags to stuff, but have not tried this myself.




What is the Covacure fabric like? And how big does the hammock seem? Like would a 6'3" 250 dude fit and feel safe? you would be fine
Hammock is comfortable and roomy.  But I did get the bigger of the models offered as I for saw my wife and I in it together.  If you plan on single person in it ,probably should get the smaller one   It seems safe to me. 
"Hey idiot, you should feel your pulse, not see it."  Echo 83

Moab

Quote from: flybynight on January 18, 2024, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Moab on January 18, 2024, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: flybynight on January 18, 2024, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: Moab on January 17, 2024, 07:28:23 PMI picked up this tarp for $12.61 on the recommendation of Majorhavoc. And am trying to decide which hammock and bug net to pair it with.
Wise Owl Outfitters Hammock Tarp, Hammock Tent - Rain Tarp for Camping Hammock - Camping Gear Must Haves w/Easy Set Up Including Tent Stakes and Carry Bag https://a.co/d/0iTylah
It is 11x9 and weighs 2lbs. And is made of ripstop waterproof nylon.
You cannot view this attachment.
These are the three low cost/large size hammocks with bug nets that I am comparing. But feel free to post more. I'm open to suggestions.
1) The first one is rated to 772lbs and is 114.2 x 55 inch. Weighs 1.93 lbs and is made if 210T Parachute Nylon. It does not have guy lines for the bug net.
2) The second ine is rated to 500lbs and is 106"L x 55"W. Weighs 2.8 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon.  And does have guy lines for the bug net.
3) The third one is rated to 500lbs and is 118"L x 79"W. Weighs 2.65 lbs and is made of 210T Parachute Nylon. And does have guy lines for the bug net.
********************************************************
1)
Covacure Camping Hammock - Lightweight Double Hammock, Hold Up to 772lbs, Portable Hammocks for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Camping, Backpacking, Travel, Backyard, Beach(Black) https://a.co/d/e3odgaU
$27.99
You cannot view this attachment.
2)
Sunyear Camping Hammock, Portable Double Hammock with Net, 2 Person Hammock Tent with 2 * 10ft Straps, Best for Outdoor Hiking Survival Travel https://a.co/d/1vum1eI
$49.99
You cannot view this attachment.
3)
Grassman Camping Hammock Mosquito Net, Portable Hammock with Net Single or Double, Hammock Tent for Travel Camping, Camping Accessories for Indoor, Outdoor, Hiking, Backpacking, Backyard, Beach https://a.co/d/j3a8MRn
$26.99
You cannot view this attachment.
******************************************************
My use for this is as a first time hammock camper. I am large 6'3" 250lbs. So I have chosen mostly double hammocks. I don't want to spend alot of money. I have never invested in hammocks as the price has always been prohibitive. For around $50 for a full set up of hammock, bug net and tarp makes it very doable. Even if its just a backup sleep system. But my main goal is to save weight.
My current set up is tent 5lbs, 10x10 tarp 2lbs, usgi bivy 2lbs(?). Which is an initial 9lbs. But tent and tarp only is 7lbs. And tarp and bivy only is 4lbs.
The hammocks are 2-2.65 lbs. The tarp is 2lbs. So for 4-4.5 lbs I would compare this to my tarp/bivy combo that currently weights 4lbs. Difference being you're off the ground. I am not including insulation as the tarp/bivy requires a matress and the hammock would require an insulating bottom quilt of some kind.
Price difference is quite a bit when you consider my current tarp was $65 and this ine us $12(!). The bivys are expensive now. I think close to $80? So $145 vs $42. That's quite a savings.
If you were to compare the tent/tarp to the hammock set up it would be 7lbs vs 4.5lbs. And $210 vs $42. That's a savings of 2.5lbs and $168. Rareoy do you save weight and save money.
My only misgiving in this situation is giving up the full enclosure of a tent for the open tarp/hammock set up. There are fully enclosed hammocks. But they are more like $100 for these cheap ones.
I think the hammocks insulative bottom layer could be acheived with extra clothing you already carry i.e. - down jacket, rain jacket etc. But maybe I am incorrect about that?
My questions are as follows:
1) Which hammock should I choose? All seem well within the correct weight and size range. But the 772lb capacity one does not have guy lines for the bug net. How crucial are the guy lines? I kind of like the open-ness. The 3rd one is at the top of my list for price, size and weight. And it has guy lines in the bug net.
2) What is the best solution for an underquilt layer? I have a 0F down sleeping bag.
Second, can the hammock be used for a ground layer? Say if you were comparing the hammock to the tarp/bivy set up? If you couldn't find two trees to hang the hammock - could you use the hammock as a ground cloth? Much like the bivy can be used for?
Lastly, would an inflatable mattress work as an underquilt in a hammock!? What us a cheap but effective bottom insulation layer for a hammock?
3) What am I not asking or considering that I should be?
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I have the  Covacure Camping Hammock. It has not seen hard use. Maybe 4 times. Seems to be fine. I know there are better ( expensive)  hammocks out there , but I didn't want to spend more money on something I might not like. ( And I'm a cheap bastard).  I made an underquilt out of a old bedquilt and  cheap sylon type tarp by attaching the tarp side edges to quilt edges with grommets and putting  paracord through this.  I also have the 55 ga. bags to stuff, but have not tried this myself.




What is the Covacure fabric like? And how big does the hammock seem? Like would a 6'3" 250 dude fit and feel safe? you would be fine
Hammock is comfortable and roomy.  But I did get the bigger of the models offered as I for saw my wife and I in it together.  If you plan on single person in it ,probably should get the smaller one  It seems safe to me.
I wondered this when I saw the double size. How the hell do two people sleep in a hammock?! Seems like you'd be literally wrapped around each other in a big sock. 

For sure getting the double size for me. 
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