Why don't we build this way?

Started by Moab, April 14, 2024, 04:49:06 PM

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Moab

You have to ask yourself why we aren't offered homes like this?

This is a "practical", affordable home. That is fireproof, overly insulated, and overly built for snow loads. The shell cost $30,000. You can build it yourself. It's made of commercial materials. All metal. And the panels can have as much as 8 inches of insulation. Giving you maximum levels of R value and support.

I've studied and followed modern/industrial design for decades. And am always saddened by the hundreds of architects that design and build modern homes each year. With incredibly cheaper materials and much simpler construction methods. But then turn around and charge way more than a traditional home. That frankly we don't need and are far less sustainable.

The barndominium movement comes to mind. Where you have a metal barn or warehouse built. And finish the interior yourself as a home. But these are frequently outlawed. Even though it is much cheaper, and uses far less materials. And far fewer construction methods and expensive professionals to do so.

There is far less profit involved in this type of construction. Yet it is isolated to only those developers in the commercial sector. Meaning you don't normally see anyone offering this type of design and construction in the private home sector. Because it simply isn't as profitable as a traditional stick home.

With home values out of reach of more and more Americans. This seems like a wise way to develop your own home or bug out location. 

Besides the plumbing and wiring it's basically screws and bolts. And because its metal there is no mold or water damage. Like a wood home.

There is a link to an awesome website in the video too. About this and other construction projects. But you can research metal home design etc on Google. 


https://youtu.be/PDWUsu2-sog?si=WEA9IOUIHK0W-qET

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Quote from: Moab on April 14, 2024, 04:49:06 PMYou have to ask yourself why we aren't offered homes like this?

This is a "practical", affordable home. That is fireproof, overly insulated, and overly built for snow loads. The shell cost $30,000. You can build it yourself. It's made of commercial materials. All metal. And the panels can have as much as 8 inches of insulation. Giving you maximum levels of R value and support.

I've studied and followed modern/industrial design for decades. And am always saddened by the hundreds of architects that design and build modern homes each year. With incredibly cheaper materials and much simpler construction methods. But then turn around and charge way more than a traditional home. That frankly we don't need and are far less sustainable.

The barndominium movement comes to mind. Where you have a metal barn or warehouse built. And finish the interior yourself as a home. But these are frequently outlawed. Even though it is much cheaper, and uses far less materials. And far fewer construction methods and expensive professionals to do so.

There is far less profit involved in this type of construction. Yet it is isolated to only those developers in the commercial sector. Meaning you don't normally see anyone offering this type of design and construction in the private home sector. Because it simply isn't as profitable as a traditional stick home.

With home values out of reach of more and more Americans. This seems like a wise way to develop your own home or bug out location.

Besides the plumbing and wiring it's basically screws and bolts. And because its metal there is no mold or water damage. Like a wood home.

There is a link to an awesome website in the video too. About this and other construction projects. But you can research metal home design etc on Google.


https://youtu.be/PDWUsu2-sog?si=WEA9IOUIHK0W-qET


I would imagine the two biggest reasons are they don't meet build codes and neighborhood codes. Nobody would want that boxy  tiny home next to their house they paid a half million dollars for. Bringing down property values There a lot of Shouse's here in Kansas. But they are all on acreages 
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One of the issues she mentions early in the video; it's not readily available outside the commercial building market.  This isn't designed for a house-sized unit, but for larger commercial structures.  Personally, I think they should expand into the residential market, but they're probably concerned that it will have low appeal there. 

Amazon is currently selling fold-out structures that comes looking like a shipping container on a truck, but expands to three times the size and comes with a built-in bathroom already plumbed to the outer wall.  I'm not sure the best way to wire it or if it comes with any sort of wiring and I'm not sure what the insulation is like, if there's any at all, but I would consider it for a nice workshop if I had that kind of money and somewhere to put it.  It's sold as a house.
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Quote from: Anianna on April 14, 2024, 11:27:16 PMOne of the issues she mentions early in the video; it's not readily available outside the commercial building market.  This isn't designed for a house-sized unit, but for larger commercial structures.  Personally, I think they should expand into the residential market, but they're probably concerned that it will have low appeal there. 

Amazon is currently selling fold-out structures that comes looking like a shipping container on a truck, but expands to three times the size and comes with a built-in bathroom already plumbed to the outer wall.  I'm not sure the best way to wire it or if it comes with any sort of wiring and I'm not sure what the insulation is like, if there's any at all, but I would consider it for a nice workshop if I had that kind of money and somewhere to put it.  It's sold as a house.
I've seen those.  Hecho en China.
Demes seem like a quick answer to a cabin tho...
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Moab

I'm not saying you should build this in a residential community. I meant at your bug out location. 

But as more and more of us find cheap land to homestead. The need for affordable shelter increases. 

In place of a cabin. There are many more options available to us. That are not only way cheaper than a traditional stick home. But go up way faster. Don't require bank financing. And provide excellent protection from the elements.

Everything from the post above. To converting freezer tractor trailers:


https://youtu.be/5UwlzOEyTqM?si=XesEL_WszcB0lgRk


https://youtu.be/lZvwD4ZHj7o?si=OsUx290NHoPjshFF

To barndominiums. To modular homes.

We've been looking at land in MT. This modular home builders sells homes that start at 250k. That go up in about two days. Foundation not withstanding.


https://youtu.be/syfALb-6x0c?si=ZjgzX7Y5MDwF4nTx

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