Alternative Options for Housing (long term)

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Anianna

Quote from: superduder on March 24, 2024, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Moab on March 24, 2024, 05:32:09 PM
Quote from: superduder on September 09, 2023, 04:56:33 PMI recently bought another property,
a little over a half acre of unincorporated/non zoned land (.66AC) for a secondary/possible income property.
I (using good old 3D home architect) laid out one .22 acre lot and did plans for one 10X20... Bungalow (?) cabin.
Just to see what kind of space I'm really dealing with,
Well Suffice it to say IF I wanted to do the traditional "Rack'em and Stack'em"
a.k.a. "Prison Cell but with more privacy" style of housing,
Not that I have that many people in my group (I don't even know 42 adults personally),
but it's nice to have room for company. Right...?
I could make do with housing on one lot and  farming/animal husbandry on the second and third lots.

Each cabin would have it's own bathroom (standard toilet and 36"x36" shower),
kitchen (with RV 110/12v/propane fridge and propane RV cooktop), and small 8X16 storage cellar.
Two bunks and a "jack knife" fold out sofa for bedding
Each can (hypothetically of course) house 3 adults, there's no utilities at the location though
so water tanks, or a VERY deep well and gas/propane or diesel generator
and/or wind & solar aso would be a necessity it would be cozy, borderline crowded, but again Could be done. 
What would the cost breakdown be in this?
The individual sheds/cabins in that post could be bought assembled, and delivered for (checked today)
$5000 Each.
That's unfinished, and I saw today there were within "driving distance" of the property (150mi)
several pop up "tent" trailers Or truck campers with all appliances, lighting, and water systems in tact
and working but bad canvas, body tub, Floor or bad roof for $FREE-$500 ea.
I'd go $6K-$8K each to be move in ready.. This is also No electrical power generation system,
or water tanks other than holding tanks from the trailers/campers,
And doing all the interior labor/installation yourself of course.
The IBC totes route for the water would run $300-$500 installed, and the solar... (don't shoot please)
HF 100W kit, with controller and wiring (beginner level kit but they do work)
and a single 100AH Walmart deep cycle battery (regular lead/acid is fine)
will run a laptop, 12v accessories/lighting from a camper well enough.

So...
$5000 base Shed (more $$$ = More finished shed)
$500 Camper
$400 IBC food grade tote water system
$500 solar/batt/inverter
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@ $6000-$7500 each livable Estimated/YMMV of course,

I haven't checked if a shed/barn dealer would be inclined to give a discount for multiple buildings yet.
I really should, because IF I decided to go with the cabins idea, getting even 10% off each would mean a pretty good discount.

I had one that looked exactly like that and it came with the option of one or two lofts, as well. 
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superduder

#21
Here I go playing "Thread Jesus" again,
But I just found one of these for sale locally.
8X8X14 truck Box (U-haul no cabover)
And had to get a newer version of 3d home architect to do a layout.
Doesn't seem like it would be very difficult to move, being as it's made to sit on a van cab/chassis.
seeing #vanlife videos of people converting 24ft boxes got me thinking and here we are.
The circle inside the square is a cabinet containing a cassette toilet, but they don't have an icon for that.
OR an icon for a single burner stove/hot plate, so the square bar sink is the GasOne dual fuel.
The "Cabinets" above the couch are a flip down bunk like in a 1960s canned ham camper.
No shower in the layout, but I'm sure something from a camper or a sink sprayer could be made to work.
Just another idea.
J
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Nerdrotic

tirls

I think sketchup has icons for it.

You could try adding a small compartment fitting a shower cubicle and toilet. Make the shower ground-level and the side parts fold back towards the wall and you can get it even smaller. Basically just a large shower with a toilet inside.

If you add the insulation towards the outside you´d have a decent sized tiny room.

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You could add the entrance towards where the kitchen sits if you want to keep the original layout, and add the kitchen on the partition towards the toilet.

superduder

#23
I'm assuming you mean something like a rv setup as well?
Like the type in the 1st pic attached here.
I'm too claustrophobic to be going into a closet (28"x28") to bathe.
I've grabbed toilet/showers from pop-up campers for cabins before,
they're basically one step up from a cabinet-mode.
I've always kind of liked the murphy sink type from campers (2nd pic)
J
"I get it, I get it... But it's Still a pain in the ass."
Shawn Kelly (Corporals Corner)
"Skeletons are alive when they're in you."
Nerdrotic

tirls

I mean a regular shower, just floor level with a tiled floor. I stayed in Korea for a time and had a bathroom there that was basically one giant shower room. The toilet and sink got wet when showering. On the other hand you could clean the entire room with the showerhead. It had an air conditioner build in and a rod at the ceiling where you could hang clothing to dry using the aircon. The entire room was only 2-3m².

Or you could add some side parts that fold back completely, like it is used in handicapped accessible bathrooms. This way you can place the toilet directly next to the shower stall or use the shower space as leg room for the lavatory. Generally you want 60cm in front of the toilet, the toilet itself is usually 60cm as well. At least in Europe.



Regular shower stalls start at 80x80, modern ones 90x90, although we plan most houses with at least one side 1-1,2m. The one used in the plan I send is 120x80cm.

I do like the murphy sink. It´s adorable.

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