Started by Raptor, March 27, 2023, 02:04:01 PM
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Quote from: tirls on March 27, 2023, 02:18:43 PMIssues aside, the location sounds spectacular. And i like the special landscaping plans for the cats' needs. Would regular wood shutters work?Ours fasten with a small wooden plank on the inside. Not sure how much use they would be against a hurricane but they definitely protect against flying objects.
Quote from: Raptor on March 27, 2023, 02:28:15 PMQuote from: tirls on March 27, 2023, 02:18:43 PMIssues aside, the location sounds spectacular. And i like the special landscaping plans for the cats' needs. Would regular wood shutters work?Ours fasten with a small wooden plank on the inside. Not sure how much use they would be against a hurricane but they definitely protect against flying objects.They do make hurricane resistant shutters like that. Those shutters would be fine since they are clearly made of durable wood. The key is the method of attachment to the house and being able to lock the shutters securely shut to withstand the 150 mph wind standard. Those could clearly be screwed shut securely.
Quote from: Moab on March 27, 2023, 07:07:16 PMHow much land do you have? I'm completely ignorant of anything to do with hurricanes or tornados. Although I did survive a hurricane on Okinawa once. We ran out of anything except rations. So we went around base during the storm with bunkbed pipes and ransacked all the vending machines. Do you have any protected space at the farm? Can you dig a root cellar at the new place? Or build some other type of underground storm shelter? What about your new place is an advantage over the old one? I mean what do you like about it prepping/safety wise? Besides the better location.
Quote from: MacWa77ace on March 27, 2023, 02:41:54 PMI the house wood frame or CBS block?I have clear Lexan and those are great. they let the sunlight in so you don't feel like your in a cave when the shutters are up. But if I could afford a solution that didn't require 'putting them up and taking them down' I'd rather have that. Are you going to look into one of those whole house Generac's? LP is the way to go in my research if you don't have NG. But there is a waiting list for installation of a year or so on those and those are really expensive. A temp solution might be to get an LP or duel fuel that can just run your fridge, some lights/tv and then get a small window a/c unit as a temp solution for one room's climate control.Those whole house Generac's will still only run for about 7 days +/- depending on the size of your tank and the load. You can manually turn it on and off to only run half the time to extend that.Add a couple of small solar panels to charge up a battery to keep phones and laptops and HT's etc charged. So my solution is to keep the fridge, somelights and Tv, and a small window a/c unit running off the portable duel fuel on LP gas.
Quote from: Raptor on March 28, 2023, 01:55:19 PMQuote from: Moab on March 27, 2023, 07:07:16 PMHow much land do you have? I'm completely ignorant of anything to do with hurricanes or tornados. Although I did survive a hurricane on Okinawa once. We ran out of anything except rations. So we went around base during the storm with bunkbed pipes and ransacked all the vending machines. Do you have any protected space at the farm? Can you dig a root cellar at the new place? Or build some other type of underground storm shelter? What about your new place is an advantage over the old one? I mean what do you like about it prepping/safety wise? Besides the better location. The house is only on ~ .65 of an acre. Just enough to allow "adequate" distance between homes. My old home was tall, narrow and long with a lot less room between homes.The farm has climate controlled space in the "pole barn" that includes an above ground safe room obtained from home depot. It is simply bolted to the slab. Not a bunker but a lot better than nothing. I have never used it but that home is not someplace I would trust in a hurricane. So since it is the BOL I installed this years ago. Something like this could also work for the new house.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Survive-a-Storm-Shelters-ShelterCube-Extreme-4-ft-x-6-ft-Tornado-Shelter-SASAM0406/204999911As for tornado winds nothing is tornado proof; it is kinda like a bullet proof vs a ballistic vest...the shelters are "wind resistant" not necessarily "tornado proof".Advantages?:The key reason for the move was because it was time to renovate the old house and we wanted 2+ bedrooms and bathrooms downstairs. We wanted a home without all of the stairs and step ups in the old house. I would have had to teardown and rebuild the old house to get this. We compromised by accepting a second story with two master suites down stairs and additional bedrooms and bathrooms upstairs. We will live on the ground floor and I will use the upstairs for some peace and quiet (& work). My wife has issues with stairs.Strictly speaking from a preparations stand point the location plays a key part. 1. My old house never flooded but access streets may or may not flood. It relied upon a complicated network of pumps and drainage canals that required trained people to operate them. If this house floods it will not be from any likely storm surge and drainage is simple gravity operated storm water drains. 2. There is no RR within 12 miles of the new house. There is a RR within 1.5 miles of the old house that carries a huge amount of HAZMAT materials to and from the port of NOLA. There is some really scary shit that runs on that line (think Ohio). 3. There are two airports within 5 miles that can be accessed without the expectation of a traffic grid lock in a SHTF situation in case I need to GTFO out by private plane. I do on occasions flew private and for a while had a "last plane out" deal with a LA based charter company to get me and mine out of NOLA. That is still usable but the need is a lot less likely. There is also an airport with airline service about 20 miles away. 4. The community has their own water and sewerage treatment plant for that area only. They also operate their own paid FD, EMS & PD. They are self contained.5. There are geographic choke points that community could easily control and defend in a really off the wall bad scenario. Granted this is not highly probable. The biggest down side to the new house is that it has to upgraded to what I consider adequate. My previous home took 5 years to do that. Getting into other aspects I am sure some people (not ZS'ers) will say good grief! backward MS?!MS does have a bad reputation and frequently shows up as #50. That said if you remove the capital city Jackson from the stats (I am not near that city) you see a significant improvement in all aspects of the state. The cost of living is lower than many places. The cost of housing is likewise low. I am amazed at how polite people are in general. With all of this, do remember I grew up in NOLA. My family has lived there since the 1790's It is not exactly a poster child for sensibility, cleanliness, healthy living and progress. BTW if you remove NOLA from LA stats you would still have Baton Rouge and Shreveport skewing the crime numbers.
Quote from: Moab on March 28, 2023, 02:41:33 PMSo that storm closet is $5000?! Wouldn't it be cheaper and better to just dig out a square hole, build a cinderblock box and put a storm proof door on top and bury the whole thing? Minus the door? For 5 grand it seems like you could build something underground that could even include supplies etc. etc.
Quote from: 12_Gauge_Chimp on March 28, 2023, 04:38:23 PMIf the area where Raptor is now is anything like where I lived in SE Texas, you're lucky if you can dig down further than a couple feet before the hole starts flooding. Which is why very few houses in SE Texas have a basement or underground storm shelters.
Quote from: flybynight on March 28, 2023, 01:23:02 PMIDK / If it were me I would secure the house. Rely just on a small gas generator for shorter blackouts . And then sink all the money into the farm for bug out when things look chancy