Ever's bug-out to the Radisson

[SCBrian]

I'm still debating on my confidence of partaking in the offered breakfast, even to grab and go, because it's a small area, are the cooks gloved and wearing masks? How many people will be there at the same time?

Generally gloved, yes.  Depending on the law in your AO they may be masked as well.  I've found the hotels have 'surges' of when people show up...  Ask the cook what the best time is to show up if you don't want to deal with a crowd, they will let you know, because they don't want a larger crowd either!

I would suggest limiting the amount of Curry/etc used in this situation as it has a ...lingering... effect in an enclosed space, but Garlic and other spices are easy.  Do you by chance have any nutritional yeast?  Ever do faux Chicken Alfreado?  I see you like Cashews, pasta, garlic, chicken...   

And thank you in advance for any ideas you come up with!

No problem.  let me know what's available as far as equipment.    My suggestion off the bat echo's what a few others have said.  Take advantage of the breakfast bar,  even if it's to load up for later.

Also - Try joining the Radisson Rewards program.  I believe it is free, and it's possible (Up to the hotel) you can have your stay there counted for the 'earn free nights'.  Makes it extra nice, since you're not paying anyway... 

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

The dorm burner arrived yesterday.

Now, the microwave and burner use different materials to cook in. One of the things I've been mulling over is a pot to port there to use on the burner. I have two, one average size, one really large. gahhh, another thing to bug out with.

Then I thought of my little beat up camp pot. I 'think' there's some caution about thin aluminum pots and electric burners because of the focused hear on metal burners. Correct me if that's wrong.

But I tried it on really low. Then low. Then almost medium. Then medium. Then med high.

Didn't notice a problem with the pan.

Cooked lentils by bringing it to a slow boil, turning off the the burner and letting it sit a couple of hours. Perfectly cooked.

Presumably rice & pasta will be the same. Pasta maybe not as long.

[majorhavoc]

Old camp pot should be fine.  Thin aluminum or no, it shouldn't be a problem as long as you have food/liquid in it.  It's when it boils dry that the thin metal might pose a problem.

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

RE: Transportation. 
You said building management will get you and your bug out kit to/from the hotel.  You also mentioned that you know someone with a car who can transport your keyboard.  Is this someone who also lives in the building?  Whoever they are, nurture that relationship.  Now would be a good time to discuss with that person their being your emergency transport should the need arise again.    Even if they're cool to the idea of making a firm commitment, it'll put you and your circumstances on their radar in case disaster strikes again.

Right ho. Measured steps begun.

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

Have a fun idea for my cutlery. Found my old never used, heavy as..... Ozark Trails folding fork knife spoon + camping cutlery set.

Way too heavy unless car camping or something. But as they will be in a rolling bag this time what the heck, let's test em out. Barely useful set. But they're mine, there here.



Plus a pair of stainless stiring/eating sticks I've had since the gods know when that I got who knows where.

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

Urgent call out for suggestions!

The first wave of residents moved into the Radison yesterday.

They are reporting visible parts of the AC and bathroom vents are covered in black dotted mold. Taking a flashlight to see through the AC & bathroom vents, it is fuzzy with obvious growing mold.

The room has no window that opens. The only door opens into the typical narrow hallway the other rooms open into. Radisson employees not observing epidemic contagion mitigation protocols. Out of town guests not seen to be observing mitigation protocols. covid aerosol in poorly ventilated areas like that hallway can stay suspended up to several hours. Multiply that by high day and evening traffic in the hall. Therefore opening to door for fresh(er) air an unsound idea.

Requests to move to non-mold rooms has proven fruitless; each room offered has same mold issue showing.

My management flatly said they can't make Radisson do anything.

Does anyone have ideas for guests attacking the mold themselves?

This pic shows the AC unit. Can this be unplugged, opened, and cleaned with clorax wipes?


Or any other ideas. At this point thinking out of the box for ideas is welcomed because...

1. I will be over there for my floor's stay in around 2 1/2 weeks.

2. I have respiratory problems. And get headaches from black mold.

3. There will be no help from any PTB.

Nobody's going to help. We/I am on my own.


Edit additional information: It is an LG ac unit

[majorhavoc]

Was waiting for an update on your Radisson bug-out thread, Ever.  (Aside: I refuse to call it a mock bug-out b/c as I said previously, there's nothing "mock" about your situation.

Thought #1: this just goes to show that one shouldn't count on an outside entity to solve your problems in any kind of emergency situation.  I know that doesn't help you personally, but I'm trying to speak to the larger prepper concern here.  Because I bet a lot of people are following this thread.

Thought #2: contact your city and/or possibly county/state health department.  Find out who is responsible for inspecting hotels for compliance with health standards and if those standards include black mold mitigation.  You may have to wait until you're placed in the hotel before you have legal standing to lodge a complaint/request an emergency inspection. 

Thought #3: bring a jug of unscented bleach (a good prepping item to have on hand regardless) and a spray bottle.  And a brush of some sort that can get in and around those AC louvers.  If all else fails an old toothbrush would probably work, but I bet you can do better than that.  Maybe a screwdriver as well to remove the front panels of your AC unit so you can really get in there to disinfect.  Give the hotel management one shot to rectify the problem.  If they don't assist, and they catch you taking apart your AC unit, dare them to charge you for trying to address an obvious health hazard that they refused to take care of.     

I may have other thoughts later, but this will get the ball rolling.  We're pulling for you, Ever.

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

(Aside: I refuse to call it a mock bug-out b/c as I said previously, there's nothing "mock" about your situation.)

Righty-O then, title has been updated to reflect that. And approved from the beginning to do so anyway: "Ever, please edit the subject line if you don't like what I chose. Sheddi."

Thought #1: this just goes to show that one shouldn't count on an outside entity to solve your problems in any kind of emergency situation.  I know that doesn't help you personally, but I'm trying to speak to the larger prepper concern here.  Because I bet a lot of people are following this thread.

Thought #2: contact your city and/or possibly county/state health department.  Find out who is responsible for inspecting hotels for compliance with health standards and if those standards include black mold mitigation.  You may have to wait until you're placed in the hotel before you have legal standing to lodge a complaint/request an emergency inspection. 

Thought #3: bring a jug of unscented bleach (a good prepping item to have on hand regardless) and a spray bottle.  And a brush of some sort that can get in and around those AC louvers.  If all else fails an old toothbrush would probably work, but I bet you can do better than that.  Maybe a screwdriver as well to remove the front panels of your AC unit so you can really get in there to disinfect.  Give the hotel management one shot to rectify the problem.  If they don't assist, and they catch you taking apart your AC unit, dare them to charge you for trying to address an obvious health hazard that they refused to take care of.     

I may have other thoughts later, but this will get the ball rolling.  We're pulling for you, Ever.

Is unscented bleach regular ole bleach w/o foo foo added scents? Or is it a special no-bleach-smell bleach?

[majorhavoc]

Thought #3: bring a jug of unscented bleach (a good prepping item to have on hand regardless) and a spray bottle.

Is unscented bleach regular ole bleach w/o foo foo added scents? Or is it a special no-bleach-smell bleach?

Yeah, it's just regular household bleach, without any added foo foo scent.  Good for purifying water, disinfecting clothing/surfaces during pandemics, etc.

[RoneKiln]

An air purifier may not fix the problem, but will do a lot to minimize it. Normally a smaller bedroom size one is in the $50 to $60 dollar range, but they might be hard to find right now with all the forest fires creating smoky conditions everywhere.

Something on par with this one.
https://www.target.com/p/holmes-aer1-desktop-hepa-air-purifier-with-visipure-filter-viewing-window/-/A-14919605#lnk=sametab

[CG]

An air purifier may not fix the problem, but will do a lot to minimize it. Normally a smaller bedroom size one is in the $50 to $60 dollar range, but they might be hard to find right now with all the forest fires creating smoky conditions everywhere.

Something on par with this one.
https://www.target.com/p/holmes-aer1-desktop-hepa-air-purifier-with-visipure-filter-viewing-window/-/A-14919605#lnk=sametab

I have 3 of those. They seem to work ok in sleeping areas, but I'd want something with much more power if black mold were involved. 

[Raptor]

In re the HVAC unit. Take photos with your phone. Go down stairs and ask to speak to the manager. Show him/ her the photos. Ask him/her if they would like these photos posted on Tripadvisor as part of a review.

Then say you wanted to know their answer before your meeting with your personal injury attorney to go over the deplorable hygiene in the room and how it has exacerbated your respiratory condition.

Then say the answer is simple ... get an HVAC guy there to clean the unit and he/she will not have to drink from either cup.

If that does not motivate them the post the photos on tripadvisor and make sure they know about it.

[sheddi]

Raptor's reply is a good one!

Regarding bleach, if you choose to take matters into your own hands then something like this might help (there should be something similar on the "cleaning" aisle of your supermarket):

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/264514881

Specially formulated with a powerful bleach to easily remove even ingrained mould and mildew.

    No need to scrub
    Contains active bleach
    Kills 99.9% of Bacteria & Viruses

Pack size: 750ML

Per 100g product: 2.2g Sodium Hypochlorite, Contains less than 5% of Non-Ionic Surfactants, Parfum: None

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

An air purifier may not fix the problem, but will do a lot to minimize it. Normally a smaller bedroom size one is in the $50 to $60 dollar range, but they might be hard to find right now with all the forest fires creating smoky conditions everywhere.

Something on par with this one.
https://www.target.com/p/holmes-aer1-desktop-hepa-air-purifier-with-visipure-filter-viewing-window/-/A-14919605#lnk=sametab

Done! Just ordered two. Stats say something like good for 102 ft², room is 120 ft²... so two to err on the side of caution with mold.

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

In re the HVAC unit. Take photos with your phone. Go down stairs and ask to speak to the manager. Show him/ her the photos. Ask him/her if they would like these photos posted on Tripadvisor as part of a review.

Then say you wanted to know their answer before your meeting with your personal injury attorney to go over the deplorable hygiene in the room and how it has exacerbated your respiratory condition.

Then say the answer is simple ... get an HVAC guy there to clean the unit and he/she will not have to drink from either cup.

If that does not motivate them the post the photos on tripadvisor and make sure they know about it.

Will do. I anticipate they won't care, so will post them as suggested. Don't know an injury lawyer thou so that'll have to be a bluff.

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

Raptor's reply is a good one!

Regarding bleach, if you choose to take matters into your own hands then something like this might help (there should be something similar on the "cleaning" aisle of your supermarket):

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/264514881

Specially formulated with a powerful bleach to easily remove even ingrained mould and mildew.

    No need to scrub
    Contains active bleach
    Kills 99.9% of Bacteria & Viruses

Pack size: 750ML

Per 100g product: 2.2g Sodium Hypochlorite, Contains less than 5% of Non-Ionic Surfactants, Parfum: None

Nice. Will see if Dillons carries this, or is this a UK brand I get online?

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

So that's done & dusted.

Excellent, and I must say Fast work on solving that problem. Thanks bunches, ufozers! I was actually trying to imagine what living in an n95 for my time there would be like.


It is my plan to loan the air purifiers to someone on succeeding each floor below me in their turn.

✔ safer air
✔ single burner to cook on
✔ SCBrian's cooking tips
✔One of the reisdents over there now and I are sharing a King flat sheet as a touchable cover over the people-do-fun-but-yucky-things-on-motel-comfortor/bed spreads.

[Ever (Zombiepreparation)]

Ask the cook what the best time is to show up if you don't want to deal with a crowd, they will let you know, because they don't want a larger crowd either!

Will do?

I would suggest limiting the amount of Curry/etc used in this situation as it has a ...lingering... effect in an enclosed space, but Garlic and other spices are easy.

Advise taken!

Do you by chance have any nutritional yeast?

No but I have flax seed. Could that count?

Ever do faux Chicken Alfreado?  I see you like Cashews, pasta, garlic, chicken...   

Have I ever! Okay, no I haven't. Can I do it in one pan or a microwave? Cause I'm up for it.... if I can use cannned chicken.

My suggestion off the bat echo's what a few others have said.  Take advantage of the breakfast bar,  even if it's to load up for later.

😷 ummmmm, maybe. 😷 I 'will' check it out though!

Also - Try joining the Radisson Rewards program.  I believe it is free, and it's possible (Up to the hotel) you can have your stay there counted for the 'earn free nights'.  Makes it extra nice, since you're not paying anyway...

LOL maybe 😃

[sheddi]

Raptor's reply is a good one!

Regarding bleach, if you choose to take matters into your own hands then something like this might help (there should be something similar on the "cleaning" aisle of your supermarket):

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/264514881

Specially formulated with a powerful bleach to easily remove even ingrained mould and mildew.

    No need to scrub
    Contains active bleach
    Kills 99.9% of Bacteria & Viruses

Pack size: 750ML

Per 100g product: 2.2g Sodium Hypochlorite, Contains less than 5% of Non-Ionic Surfactants, Parfum: None

Nice. Will see if Dillons carries this, or is this a UK brand I get online?

Dettol is a UK brand but there's bound to be a US equivalent. Maybe like this (I can't read the label in the picture but it says bleach, and I'm not sure whether "Original" is scented or not):

https://www.dillons.com/p/clorox-cleanup-cleaner-bleach-original-spray-bottle/0004460001204?fulfillment=PICKUP

[SCBrian]

Ok, quick and dirty.
Planning on a dorm burner, microwave, some bowls, pots, pans... 
Some are just thoughts, and basics, some I dropped full recipes in...  let me know what you like/dont and I can drop some more.  there are some great apps out there for "This is what I have, what can I make?"  "Supercook" and "Myfridgefood" are great.  Just keep in mine the limited heat sources. 

Breakfast
Scrambled Eggs (duh)

Breakfsat in lobby - and leave with full pockets

Breakfast quesadillas (Can you get/eat tortillas?) - So many variations!  Chicken, Cheese,  Chicken & Cheese, tons of veggies...

Breakfast burritos - Same as above...

Frittata.  Microwave - Add some butter to a microwave safe dish. Nuke until melted.  Add some Chicken, spinach, garlic, onions, pepper, whatever, etc.  Nuke for 1 minute or so.  Add lightly beaten eggs (The frozen ones, thawed) some salt.  Nuke until a knife inserted in the center comes out clean 2-3 minutes depending on power.  Let stand 5 min. Cut, serve, refrigerate.

Fried potatoes... open can,  dice into small cubes,  fry until GB&D,  Add cheese, maybe chicken, 


Lunch
Vegetable roll ups/wraps
Tons of salad options especially with the nuts/raisins/cranberries/salmon.

Dinner

Chicken Bog (Onions, carrots, rice, garlic, chicken & (Chick juice/stock if you don't have stock, don't drain the canned chick.)  Hint: Add some diced sausage from breakfast!

Chicken and Cheesy pasta.   

Chicken/White Chili.  Chicken, corn, Northernpeas, chicken broth...

Rice medley - Rice, green beans, corn, cream of (whatever) soup,  Chicken...

Chili - Grab beans, diced tom w/chili add spices, top w/ chz...

Cheesy tomato eggs (Microwave) - cooked / reheated rice, diced tomatoes on top, raw egg on top, then cheese on top.  Microwave on high 1-3 min or until egg is done.

Shakshuka - In a microwave - Microwave safe bowl, Add: tomato sauce/marinara, chickpeas,(Drained/rinsed) red pepper flakes, salt, mic.  Make a depression in center of sauce and crack an egg. Microwave for ~1 minute then cook in 15 second bursts until it's done.

Faux Chicken Alfredo - key is the sauce.  cook pasta, add chicken pour sauce over.  Sauce needs to be started the day before and will take work without a blender.
Soak 1 cup cashews in water overnight.  Drain, rinse.
Mash the hell outta them.  mix, mash, repeat.  crush them and get the frustration from the day out!
Once you have them approaching a paste like consistency (Smother is better), add:
2 garlic cloves, minced. 1/2 tbsp lemon juice. 1/2 cup diced onion(minced is better), 2 tbsp nutritional yeast*, 1 tsp salt
1/4 tsp dried rosemary, 1/4 tsp black pepper.
Then Mash/mix/beat/berate/etc as much as possible.  Beat it up unti your arm gets tired and the neighbors are concerned(We want smooth).  Heat low and slow until warm.  Pour over chicken/pasta 
*Nutritional yeast gives it a cheesy flavor.  Try adding parm cheese instead.

Chicken peanut butter ramen - Take peanut butter, pepper flakes, garlic, little soy sauce (Or use the ramen packet), and mix in a bowl.   Bring 3 cups water to a boil.  Add 1/4 cup boiling water to the bowl, mix until creamy.  prepare noodles in remaining water,  drain.  Mix noodles and PBmix.   Add chicken if desired, diced green onions/scallions/peas on top is a nice touch. 

Tons of soup/stew options. the instant potatoes make great thickeners.

Desert:  (Note: I have not tried this with the subs, so it could prove a disaster)
Peach/pear/apple cobbler in microwave.
1 can Peaches (Un drained)
1 Tsp. Ground Cinnamon
1 Tbsp. Butter
2 Tbsp. All-purpose Flour
2 Tbsp. Milk (Or sub)
2 Tbsp. Honey (or 4 if fruit is not syrup packed)
¼ Tsp. Vanilla Extract
¼ Tsp. Baking Powder
Pinch of Salt
In a small microwavable bowl, combine peaches, 1/2 the honey, and ½ tsp. cinnamon. Heat in microwave on high for 1 minute or until peaches are warm. Stir mixture. Place butter into a separate microwavable bowl. Heat on high for 30 seconds or until butter is completely melted. Evenly pour peach mixture over butter. Set aside. In a small mixing bowl mix flour, milk, ½ tsp. cinnamon, balance of honey, extract, baking powder, and salt. Spread flour mixture on top of peach mixture. Heat in microwave for 1 minute or until dough is done. Do not overcook. Remove from microwave and immediately sprinkle cinnamon on top.
Sub Oatmeal for flour and you should be able to do the same.
*For reference a basic cobbler recipe is 1:1:1 milk, sugar, flour. and it cooks fine, I'm using your subs and avoiding the sugar.  Plus working some microwave magic...
I do it camping, with a can of peaches, a box of yellow cake mix, and about 10 oz of h20...