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[MacWa77ace]

I have a crossman brake apart pump air rifle and the Byrna Kinetic Launcher

What model Crosman? Do you mean break barrel or take down?

I have two 'sort of' take down Air Rifles.
I discovered that my Benjamin 392 22 cal could be made 'smaller' by taking off the stock with one simple bolt. And I have a Daisy model 25 pump that's an antique and back then they made them so with one thumbscrew you could take the whole barrel and pump action off the receiver. You can still get that model but IIRC there is no takedown bolt on the new model design.





My only break barrel is a Ruger AirHawk spring action 177. I don't like it.

[MacWa77ace]

This is cool.

I remember when I was a kid there was an M1 Carbine that was CO2 powered but IIRC it wasn't full auto. I can't remember the manufacturer either. I wanted one so bad, I think I took a magazine with the ad with me to sit on Santa's lap and make sure he got me the right one. I also seem to remember it might have had one of those rotating six shot pellet holders.   It's very fuzzy now.

Anyhow, didn't get it. Shouldn't they call this full auto version the M2 Carbine? Wonder why they couldn't work out a detachable magazine. Pretty sure the one from my childhood had a mag box whether it was detachable or not IDK.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

I've been seeing that pop up on my recommendations on YouTube and it looks interesting.

I have no real use for one, but I still want one.

[MacWa77ace]

My Vintage Daisy model 25 w/ custom blued finish in takedown mode.

[majorhavoc]

My Vintage Daisy model 25 w/ custom blued finish in takedown mode.

Huh. A takedown airgun. I did not know such a thing existed.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Been awhile since anyone posted in this thread, so here goes nothing.

A long time ago, I picked up a Daisy Powerline air rifle for my oldest nephew. This would've been around 2015 or so and I recently found out it does not like .177 caliber pellets at all.

Like it'll chamber them, but it will not fire them. It'll eat BBs all day long, but it refuses to pop out a pellet. I'm not sure if it's an undersized chamber or what, though. I've never had this happen before.

[MacWa77ace]

Been awhile since anyone posted in this thread, so here goes nothing.

A long time ago, I picked up a Daisy Powerline air rifle for my oldest nephew. This would've been around 2015 or so and I recently found out it does not like .177 caliber pellets at all.

Like it'll chamber them, but it will not fire them. It'll eat BBs all day long, but it refuses to pop out a pellet. I'm not sure if it's an undersized chamber or what, though. I've never had this happen before.

That's strange.
What'd it do exactly?
Would it discharge the compressed air but the pellet wouldn't leave the chamber? Jam?
At the chamber or down the barrel a ways?
Everytime or sometimes?
What'd you/he have to do to get the pellet out of the chamber/bbl?


I don't like the Powerline's bb feed system. It 'interferes' with using pellets by constantly feeding bb's thru the hopper from the magazine. So you have to be really careful not to double feed a bb behind a pellet. And then here's my guess at what might be happening without knowing any of the details.

If you only pull the bolt back far enough to insert a pellet, but not grab a bb, it doesn't cock the mechanism. You have to pull the bolt all the way back 'til it stops. I'll double check that tonight on mine when I get home from work. [If I remember  ] I could be wrong but I was messing around with mine Sunday and I was purposefully pulling it all the way back because it just felt right and I heard it click when it hit the rear.

And on my Crosman 760 I accidentally jammed a pellet in sideways or crooked a few times which when I moved the bolt forward it deformed the pellet. I used to do some crazy stuff with that one. Like load 7 bb's in the barrel for a shotgun effect. It worked but not like you'd expect. It shot a 'train' of bb's, not a spread. Pretty cool looking in the sunlight.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

The pellet will get jammed about maybe half an inch down the barrel and I've got to tap it out with a brass rod.

The air will pass through the barrel like normal, it's just the pellet won't. So there's probably some sort of issue with the barrel. Like maybe a burr or something that's just big enough to grab a pellet, but not a BB.

[MacWa77ace]

The pellet will get jammed about maybe half an inch down the barrel and I've got to tap it out with a brass rod.

The air will pass through the barrel like normal, it's just the pellet won't. So there's probably some sort of issue with the barrel. Like maybe a burr or something that's just big enough to grab a pellet, but not a BB.

Does it happen every shot with a pellet or just sometimes?

It almost sounds like it got expanded at that point and the pellet is turning and jamming at that spot then. Same thing happens to the bb's but they are the same shape no matter what angle they are when they hit the far end of the bulge.
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Or it could be that the barrel isn't seated/connected to the chamber leaving a gap for a pellet to cross. Unlikely.

  

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

It only happens with pellets and it's every time I try to shoot one.

I thought at first it maybe was because i didn't pump it up enough, but even with a full charge (and a little over), the pellet will get stuck about an inch or so down the barrel.

As long as it'll function with BBs, it's fine. It's just a little unusual for an air rifle that's supposed to be able to handle BBs and pellets to only function with one.

It's also possible that the pellets are just slightly oversized. That makes more sense than there being a burr in the barrel. A burr would affect function with BBs as well, I'd think.

ETA: Did a little work on the air rifle today and I can't find a burr or anything in the barrel. I tried three different types of pellets and they all failed to exit the barrel.

Chambering all three types was a little stiff, so my conclusion is there's a flaw in the barrel itself and the flaw is unknown since I lack a bore scope camera to really get a good look in the bore. So this will just be a BB only air rifle.

[Crimson_Phoenix]

I have a ton of airsoft stuff at my parents' house, if that counts. Did airsofting for 7 years before everybody decided they were kids toys and nobody wanted to even talk about it anymore. Sucks because it got me out of the house, into the woods, and it was a great all day social thing.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

I have a ton of airsoft stuff at my parents' house, if that counts. Did airsofting for 7 years before everybody decided they were kids toys and nobody wanted to even talk about it anymore. Sucks because it got me out of the house, into the woods, and it was a great all day social thing.

Airsoft is making a bit of a comeback nowadays it seems.

I know a few guys who did airsoft for actual firearms training since it was cheaper than using actual ammo and the guns they were using were damn near 1 to 1 copies of their actual stuff.

I had a bunch of airsoft guns when I was younger, but I never did anything with them beyond shooting stuff in my bedroom.

[majorhavoc]

Airsoft is making a bit of a comeback nowadays it seems.

The Nerf gun generation has grow up and is looking for something a bit more intense.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

Airsoft is making a bit of a comeback nowadays it seems.

The Nerf gun generation has grow up and is looking for something a bit more intense.

True.

Though I've seen some Nerf guns that make the stuff we had as kids look super weak in comparison.

Some of the homebrew stuff guys are making nowadays is stuff I'd have loved to have had as a kid.

[Crimson_Phoenix]

We used to do small unit tactics and force on force games in a variety of outdoor and semi-built up areas. Sometimes as small as two teams of 3-5 guys, some as large as 12-16 per team. We practiced patrolling, ambush, counter ambush, etc. along with just for fun matches of king of the hill and capture the flag. It was a good way to not only train against an opponent who could shoot back, but also how to pick and arrange your gear, plan for the weather, move with all your equipment, etc.

[MacWa77ace]

Though I've seen some Nerf guns that make the stuff we had as kids look super weak in comparison.

[12_Gauge_Chimp]

So I figured out what the problem with my nephew's air rifle was.

Turns out it's the pellets themselves that are the problem. I found some different ones last night and tested those to see if they functioned. They did, so I tested the other ones that didn't before and they still didn't function.

They chambered, but got stuck about an inch or so down the barrel. The new ones I tested came out as intended, so it looks like my nephew's air rifle liked a particular type of pellet.

Which is the flat head type with a short tail (I'm not up on the nomenclature of air rifle ammo, so I don't know what the actual terms are.). So it looks like I'll be sticking that type for it.

The other stuff works in my old BB gun and probably the Beeman Silver Bear pellet rifle I picked up a couple years ago, so it won't go to waste.