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Moab

Whenever i click on a previously viewed thread it only takes me to the top. Not the last unread post. Is this a setting?

Also i have notifications set to send me an email upon a new post in a thread i started, have posted to or am following. But i dont get them all(?).
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

NT2C

Quote from: Moab on April 21, 2022, 02:57:48 PMWhenever i click on a previously viewed thread it only takes me to the top. Not the last unread post. Is this a setting?

Also i have notifications set to send me an email upon a new post in a thread i started, have posted to or am following. But i dont get them all(?).

To answer your first question, this is slightly changed in this theme.  Instead of clicking on the thread you can click the "unread posts" line on the top right below our slogan, or you can click the date/time line (above the name of the last poster).

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As for the emails, I'll look into this and see if any got returned or are waiting to go out.  Could be a fuckup with the mail server.  I assume you've checked your spam folder? 
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Moab

On android in mobile the unread topics button is not upper right. Its left and below the forum main image. I also dont see a link for last poster. Maybe i am missing something tho?

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I do not have any emails in my spam folder. 


"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

NT2C

Quote from: Moab on April 21, 2022, 04:59:41 PMOn android in mobile the unread topics button is not upper right. Its left and below the forum main image. I also dont see a link for last poster. Maybe i am missing something tho?

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Looking at that image, you're already inside the topic.  You need to back out one level.
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Moab

Here is one step out. I still dont see a link for most recent poster.

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"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

NT2C

Quote from: Moab on April 21, 2022, 05:19:20 PMHere is one step out. I still dont see a link for most recent poster.

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Um... click the orange button that says "NEW" at the head of each topic?  :shades:
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CG

Quote from: Moab on April 21, 2022, 05:19:20 PMHere is one step out. I still dont see a link for most recent poster.

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It removes columns as it shrinks in width.  Screenshots are from my browser on the computer.


NT2C

Quote from: CG on April 21, 2022, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: Moab on April 21, 2022, 05:19:20 PMHere is one step out. I still dont see a link for most recent poster.

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It removes columns as it shrinks in width.  Screenshots are from my browser on the computer.


Correct, but his original question was about getting to the new posts.  The easiest way to do that here is to click the "NEW" button.
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Moab

Jesus. Right in front of my face! I swear the hardest computer questions are also the simplest! Lol. Awesome. Thank you. I was looking for like the most recent posters name or something.
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

CG

Quote from: NT2C on April 21, 2022, 08:06:51 PM
Quote from: CG on April 21, 2022, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: Moab on April 21, 2022, 05:19:20 PMHere is one step out. I still dont see a link for most recent poster.

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It removes columns as it shrinks in width.  Screenshots are from my browser on the computer.


Correct, but his original question was about getting to the new posts.  The easiest way to do that here is to click the "NEW" button.
Ah.  He'd mentioned names, so I was figuring he was trying to find the column that disappeared. 

Let's not discuss my sanity or reading comprehension right now.   :icon_crazy:

Moab

Here's another one for you, nt2c? How do you enlarge the box you type into? I know its supposed to be the little triangle in the bottom right corner. But on android it doesnt work.

No big deal. Please dont try to fix it. Just was wondering. I usually type my responses in a text editor first and then paste them here anyway. Cause I've lost stuff before. And i can't get the box any bigger. 😉
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

NT2C

Quote from: Moab on April 22, 2022, 08:43:41 PMHere's another one for you, nt2c? How do you enlarge the box you type into? I know its supposed to be the little triangle in the bottom right corner. But on android it doesnt work.

No big deal. Please dont try to fix it. Just was wondering. I usually type my responses in a text editor first and then paste them here anyway. Cause I've lost stuff before. And i can't get the box any bigger. 😉
There's a limit for how big the system will let that box be.  You may be at that limit.
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Moab

Quote from: NT2C on April 22, 2022, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: Moab on April 22, 2022, 08:43:41 PMHere's another one for you, nt2c? How do you enlarge the box you type into? I know its supposed to be the little triangle in the bottom right corner. But on android it doesnt work.

No big deal. Please dont try to fix it. Just was wondering. I usually type my responses in a text editor first and then paste them here anyway. Cause I've lost stuff before. And i can't get the box any bigger. 😉
There's a limit for how big the system will let that box be.  You may be at that limit.
Just for clarity. And future reference. I am unable to push that box to its boundaries. I cant make it smaller or bigger at all. It doesnt move or change size. 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

NT2C

Quote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 22, 2022, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: Moab on April 22, 2022, 08:43:41 PMHere's another one for you, nt2c? How do you enlarge the box you type into? I know its supposed to be the little triangle in the bottom right corner. But on android it doesnt work.

No big deal. Please dont try to fix it. Just was wondering. I usually type my responses in a text editor first and then paste them here anyway. Cause I've lost stuff before. And i can't get the box any bigger. 😉
There's a limit for how big the system will let that box be.  You may be at that limit.
Just for clarity. And future reference. I am unable to push that box to its boundaries. I cant make it smaller or bigger at all. It doesnt move or change size.
It's also causing a lot of errors when you try.  I'll do a reinstall of everything tonight and see if it helps.
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Moab

Quote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 22, 2022, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: Moab on April 22, 2022, 08:43:41 PMHere's another one for you, nt2c? How do you enlarge the box you type into? I know its supposed to be the little triangle in the bottom right corner. But on android it doesnt work.

No big deal. Please dont try to fix it. Just was wondering. I usually type my responses in a text editor first and then paste them here anyway. Cause I've lost stuff before. And i can't get the box any bigger. 😉
There's a limit for how big the system will let that box be.  You may be at that limit.
Just for clarity. And future reference. I am unable to push that box to its boundaries. I cant make it smaller or bigger at all. It doesnt move or change size.
It's also causing a lot of errors when you try.  I'll do a reinstall of everything tonight and see if it helps.
Maybe that will help notifications too. My notifications have not worked forever. I think I was even having problems on ZS. But i could be wrong about that. I have everything set to notify me by email and alert. And I rarely get an email of any kind. And no alerts. The alerts could be a phone setting  but I dont rely on that anyway. 

I just want to add that these minor inconveniences are nothing compared to how much you guys have improved this site. Its so very very good. You've done a really great job in a relatively short amount of time. Thank you so much for that. 
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

NT2C

Quote from: Moab on April 26, 2022, 06:59:32 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 25, 2022, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: Moab on April 25, 2022, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: NT2C on April 22, 2022, 08:45:19 PM
Quote from: Moab on April 22, 2022, 08:43:41 PMHere's another one for you, nt2c? How do you enlarge the box you type into? I know its supposed to be the little triangle in the bottom right corner. But on android it doesnt work.

No big deal. Please dont try to fix it. Just was wondering. I usually type my responses in a text editor first and then paste them here anyway. Cause I've lost stuff before. And i can't get the box any bigger. 😉
There's a limit for how big the system will let that box be.  You may be at that limit.
Just for clarity. And future reference. I am unable to push that box to its boundaries. I cant make it smaller or bigger at all. It doesnt move or change size.
It's also causing a lot of errors when you try.  I'll do a reinstall of everything tonight and see if it helps.
Maybe that will help notifications too. My notifications have not worked forever. I think I was even having problems on ZS. But i could be wrong about that. I have everything set to notify me by email and alert. And I rarely get an email of any kind. And no alerts. The alerts could be a phone setting  but I dont rely on that anyway.

I just want to add that these minor inconveniences are nothing compared to how much you guys have improved this site. Its so very very good. You've done a really great job in a relatively short amount of time. Thank you so much for that.
Alerts don't go to your phone, they go to the top of your screen here.

I did the reinstall last night and what I found is that three of the modification packages we use are causing massive errors, despite being upgraded to work with this version (per their developer).  One has been permanently removed, and two are temporarily turned off.
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Moab

I just noticed this. But there does not seem to be a link on the homepage, on mobile, to Unread Topics. Only Unread Posts and Updated Topics.

Am I missing something?

This is typically where we would go to catch up on the entire forum. As I believe it lists all the threads/topics that you either haven't seen or have been newly posted to since your last visit. Which means basically everything on the forum that you haven't seen since your last visit. 

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The only way I got to the below was a link popped up after I opened every unread post or updated topic.

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"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

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Quote from: Moab on April 27, 2022, 07:34:21 PMI just noticed this. But there does not seem to be a link on the homepage, on mobile, to Unread Topics. Only Unread Posts and Updated Topics.

Am I missing something?

This is typically where we would go to catch up on the entire forum. As I believe it lists all the threads/topics that you either haven't seen or have been newly posted to since your last visit. Which means basically everything on the forum that you haven't seen since your last visit.

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The only way I got to the below was a link popped up after I opened every unread post or updated topic.

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Topics are started from an initial post.  "Unread posts" would include hundred all posts that start a new topic.
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Moab

This is really hard to follow. Because all these pages look so similar.

The reason I thought no one was posting new topics. Was because there isn't a link on the homepage that takes you to all of the new topics. Or at least the new active ones you havent seen yet.

So what I'm saying is that there should be a link on the homepage that takes you to this page below. Notice that there are 10 or more pages to go thru.

*This is the only page where you can see ALL the new topics on the forum. Since your last visit.

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Now referring to below. Currently when you click "Unread Posts" it takes you to a page titled "Recent Unread Topics" with only a few topics. (I go more into the name difference below.) Note there is only one page of topics. And only a few topics on that page. These are only topics you've created or posted too.

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Referring to below again. If you click on "Updated Topics" it takes you to "Updated Topics". A page with only those topics you've created or posted too. Notice it also is only one page. And a few topics. These are only topics that you have created or posted too. Not new topics you havent seen yet.

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*Which means there is nowhere on the homepage to go to see ALL the new topics or threads you haven't visited yet. Or even seen yet.

Unless you were to visit every single section manually. And look for any new topics. Which would take a long time.

In addition, the name of the link on the homepage - should match the name on the page your going to. Unread Posts takes you to Recent Unread Topics. I think this page name needs to be changed to Unread Posts. So that it matches the link referring to it. As it does show unread posts on threads your involved in.

All of the above is the same on desktop as it is on mobile. At least PC and Android.

Without "All Unread Topics" being linked on the homepage visitors will never see any new topics. Except by visiting each section manually. Which is unlikely.
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin

NT2C

Quote from: Moab on April 27, 2022, 10:32:03 PMThis is really hard to follow. Because all these pages look so similar.

The reason I thought no one was posting new topics. Was because there isn't a link on the homepage that takes you to all of the new topics. Or at least the new active ones you havent seen yet.

So what I'm saying is that there should be a link on the homepage that takes you to this page below. Notice that there are 10 or more pages to go thru.

*This is the only page where you can see ALL the new topics on the forum. Since your last visit.

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Now referring to below. Currently when you click "Unread Posts" it takes you to a page titled "Recent Unread Topics" with only a few topics. (I go more into the name difference below.) Note there is only one page of topics. And only a few topics on that page. These are only topics you've created or posted too.

You cannot view this attachment.

Referring to below again. If you click on "Updated Topics" it takes you to "Updated Topics". A page with only those topics you've created or posted too. Notice it also is only one page. And a few topics. These are only topics that you have created or posted too. Not new topics you havent seen yet.

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*Which means there is nowhere on the homepage to go to see ALL the new topics or threads you haven't visited yet. Or even seen yet.

Unless you were to visit every single section manually. And look for any new topics. Which would take a long time.

In addition, the name of the link on the homepage - should match the name on the page your going to. Unread Posts takes you to Recent Unread Topics. I think this page name needs to be changed to Unread Posts. So that it matches the link referring to it. As it does show unread posts on threads your involved in.

All of the above is the same on desktop as it is on mobile. At least PC and Android.

Without "All Unread Topics" being linked on the homepage visitors will never see any new topics. Except by visiting each section manually. Which is unlikely.
There is a difference between "Recent Unread Topics" (topics with new posts since your last logon) and "All Unread Topics".  If you want "All Unread Topics" then you know where to find the link.  Most members aren't interested in reading every topic on the site back to day one, so a link such as you request would not get much use and something else would have to be removed to make room for it.  Furthermore, while I can make changes like that doing so would have the undesired effect of rendering the theme unable to be updated (automatically) in the future until those changes were reversed, or, an entirely new theme would have to be created and be manually updated and changed every time the SMF version changed.  BTDT on a different forum I used to run and it eventually became a 10+ hour a day job fixing things that had to be changed each time the forum version changed.  I'm not interested in making this place that kind of a drain on my time.

If we had an actual IT department in-house to create and keep updated a custom theme, that would be one thing, we don't though.  It's just me and one other guy with IT experience but zero experience working on forums. His experience probably exceeds my own in many ways but our two fields are worlds apart.
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