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The coming AI takeover...
« on: June 07, 2021, 11:09:58 AM »
You know it and I know it, we're facing a robot/AI takeover of all we hold dear.  We must resist!
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2021, 11:48:04 AM »
AI will take over everything. It’s literally just a matter of time. There are 3 directions I see it going.

1) More on the utopia side. It takes over jobs we become a post working class society, we have some sort of UBI and people are able to focus on betterment of society. Yeah, like I said, pipe dream utopia.

2) AI pulls a terminator and we go down that path.

3) corporations decide that AI and machines are cheaper, Start laying off hordes of people unemployment starts to go through the roof. The wealthy increase their riches more than they did during the pandemic, while everyone except the wealthy can’t afford basics. Government will be crippled by years of cutting taxes on said corporations and focusing it more on the dwindling middle class and poor. Eventually (and far FAR to late) will try raising taxes to cover costs but by that time most governments will have collapsed and it’ll be corporations running things.

The 3rd is the most likely outcome seeing how the rich and corporations flourished on the pandemic. I see no reason they wouldn’t do the same when they don’t NEED workers. They can cut themselves free of their biggest cost, us.

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Re: The coming AI takeover...
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2021, 08:45:53 PM »
There's no hope!
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Re: The coming AI takeover...
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2021, 09:18:44 PM »
AI will take over everything. It’s literally just a matter of time. There are 3 directions I see it going.

1) More on the utopia side. It takes over jobs we become a post working class society, we have some sort of UBI and people are able to focus on betterment of society. Yeah, like I said, pipe dream utopia.

2) AI pulls a terminator and we go down that path.

3) corporations decide that AI and machines are cheaper, Start laying off hordes of people unemployment starts to go through the roof. The wealthy increase their riches more than they did during the pandemic, while everyone except the wealthy can’t afford basics. Government will be crippled by years of cutting taxes on said corporations and focusing it more on the dwindling middle class and poor. Eventually (and far FAR to late) will try raising taxes to cover costs but by that time most governments will have collapsed and it’ll be corporations running things.

The 3rd is the most likely outcome seeing how the rich and corporations flourished on the pandemic. I see no reason they wouldn’t do the same when they don’t NEED workers. They can cut themselves free of their biggest cost, us.

True AI is not possible - but this is a tricky debate to get deeply into due to no religion rules.

Instead what we will likely see is limited level of mimicry driven by Machine Learning principles.

But it matters who makes it, who guides it, who adjusts its input and what it is asked of outputs. I am very sure many people will consider these machines to be AI even when they are not.

The take over will be real and it will be messy in the same way machines disrupted industrial industry the same will happen in white collar tech/knowledge jobs. There is a lot of 'busy' work out there.
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Re: The coming AI takeover...
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2021, 09:56:52 PM »
AI will take over everything. It’s literally just a matter of time. There are 3 directions I see it going.

1) More on the utopia side. It takes over jobs we become a post working class society, we have some sort of UBI and people are able to focus on betterment of society. Yeah, like I said, pipe dream utopia.

2) AI pulls a terminator and we go down that path.

3) corporations decide that AI and machines are cheaper, Start laying off hordes of people unemployment starts to go through the roof. The wealthy increase their riches more than they did during the pandemic, while everyone except the wealthy can’t afford basics. Government will be crippled by years of cutting taxes on said corporations and focusing it more on the dwindling middle class and poor. Eventually (and far FAR to late) will try raising taxes to cover costs but by that time most governments will have collapsed and it’ll be corporations running things.

The 3rd is the most likely outcome seeing how the rich and corporations flourished on the pandemic. I see no reason they wouldn’t do the same when they don’t NEED workers. They can cut themselves free of their biggest cost, us.

Option 4) We become dependent on them and cyberwarfare, solar flare, or other disaster abruptly knocks them out and knocks us back to the stone age. Maybe 1 out of 1000 humans survive the first year.

I don't know that we could beat AI, but have faith we are perfectly capable of screwing up so badly we wipe them out at the worst possible moment.
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Re: The coming AI takeover...
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2021, 10:03:39 PM »
There is the transhuman option.

I have, er, distinct issues with attaching computers to my brain unnecessarily, but they're technical rather than moral (computer viruses would be even worse if they could actually just get to your brain).  If it came down to "skynet or transhumanism", though, I'd probably go with transhuman rather than terminators.

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Re: The coming AI takeover...
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2021, 02:25:52 AM »
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Re: The coming AI takeover...
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2021, 07:39:57 PM »
There is the transhuman option.

I have, er, distinct issues with attaching computers to my brain unnecessarily, but they're technical rather than moral (computer viruses would be even worse if they could actually just get to your brain).  If it came down to "skynet or transhumanism", though, I'd probably go with transhuman rather than terminators.

I have far less moral qualms about fighting terminators though.
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